August 1999 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

list.waikato.ac.nz Has Moved
by Donald Neal 12 Dec '24

12 Dec '24

NZNOG-People, I have just finished migrating all of the mailing lists held at The University of Waikato from one server to another. I don't have any reason to believe that anything's gone wrong, but please bear with me for today if it turns out that something has. - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal | Q: How many Aucklanders does it take to change Systems Programmer/Analyst | a light bulb? The University of Waikato | A: Pass me that candle and I'll tell you. Hamilton, New Zealand | --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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A.P.E. and the future
by Robert Hunt 20 Dec '99

20 Dec '99

hi All, We have with some enthusiasm looked forward to the practical action re peering, and are really pleased that Clear and IHUG and very soon Telecom are going to be peering with us. No doubt this means that those of you on the above list are peering with each other too as well as other smaller parties. Today Telstra appear to have distinguished themselves. Our initiative to BGP peer with them was rejected in accordance with a policy of "not peering with anyone but a carrier". (- David Venables) This seems antithetical to the overall objective of an "exchange" ? In the interests of network efficiency do you think that Homo Australias could at least be persuaded to exchange with the route reflector?? I presume that in the end the win-win scenario of the exchange makes "evolutionary sense" :-)) Robert Hunt --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: nz99.waikato.ac.nz
by Rex Croft, 07 838 4597 30 Aug '99

30 Aug '99

The outage of ns99.waikato.ac.nz was not unexpected. But the length of the outage *was* unexpected. The University had to power down some of its comms gear at 4am Sunday so the power could be changed to a different phase on our UPS (we have a bad phase inbalance). Some machines had a previous history of not liking the main IP switch being powered off, especially those Intel boxes with DEC ethernet cards. And Domainz2 (aka ns99) is one of those. It took a long time to get ns99 working because it seemed to be destroying switch ports. Several switch ports had to be tried before one was found that ns99 liked :-) . I would like to point out that the only time connectivity to ns99 is critical is about 4:30pm each working day when the zone file are reloaded. At all other times ns99 has the secondary nameservers of *.nz backing it up. - Rex Croft ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:26:58 +1200 From: Chris Wedgwood <cw(a)f00f.org> Subject: nz99.waikato.ac.nz Looks like nz99.waikato.ac.nz is hosed -- any idea who gets called to restart this? -cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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nz99.waikato.ac.nz
by Chris Wedgwood 28 Aug '99

28 Aug '99

Looks like nz99.waikato.ac.nz is hosed -- any idea who gets called to restart this? -cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: scheduled work on NZIX 4-6AM Sunday morning, August 29,1999
by Dennis Su 24 Aug '99

24 Aug '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Su > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 4:21 PM > To: Brett Telfer (E-mail); Joe Abley (E-mail); Kishor Morar (E-mail); > Phillip Lindsay (E-mail); Sreenivas Katta (E-mail); Steve Dodd (E-mail); > Tony Wicks (E-mail); Peter Wilson (E-mail); Steve Dodd (E-mail); Rowan > Smith (E-mail); Stan Y (E-mail); 'grwom(a)telstra.co.nz' > Subject: scheduled work from 4-6AM Sunday morning, August 29,1999 > > Hi, > > University of Waikato will be changing the phase of power of the rack > where NZIX switches are housed( not ISPs' equipment) to reduce the load. > Because of the redundant configuration of NZIX, we would be able to > maintain the network availability of NZIX but inevitably it will cause the > short outage when the customers' equipments are repatched to the redundant > NZIX switch and when they are connected back to the primary NZIX switch. > It would cause less than 40 seconds for each patching for each ISP router. > It will occur during 4-6AM Sunday, August 29 1999. Sorry for any > inconvenience it may cause. > > Regards, > Dennis > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Clear advertising International routes on NZIX
by Tony Wicks 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

I would like an explanation as to why Clear ( It looks like it was just fixed ) was advertising international routes in Waikato - router-hn#sh ip route www.cnn.com Translating "www.cnn.com"...domain server (140.200.128.13) (130.217.64.3) [OK] Routing entry for 207.25.71.0/24 Known via "ospf 1", distance 110, metric 10 Tag 2828, type extern 2, forward metric 10 Redistributing via ospf 1 Last update from 140.200.128.18 on Ethernet0, 11:20:10 ago Routing Descriptor Blocks: * 140.200.128.18, from 203.167.226.150, 11:20:10 ago, via Ethernet0 Route metric is 10, traffic share count is 1 [tonyw(a)wet tonyw]$ nslookup 140.200.128.18 Server: nscache1.iconz.co.nz Address: 210.48.65.2 Name: clearfr.nzix.waikato.ac.nz Address: 140.200.128.18 This caused a major outage on my network due to the routing tables filling up the available memory on some of my smaller routers. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Telecom ATM Fubar.
by James Tyson 18 Aug '99

18 Aug '99

I, personally, would love to extend a hefty handshake of congratulations to David Dix and his cohorts for completely rooting the Telecom ATM network causing several major outages for myself and Simon Lyall to deal with. You guys get the "plonker admin of the month award" for this month. no default-information in no default-information out Cheers. James Tyson -- Engineering Supervisor - The Internet Group. Friends don't let friends do *BSD --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Assistance Required with survey of Internet survey
by Andy Lake 18 Aug '99

18 Aug '99

Frank You can send it to me, although if its as large as they suggest, we cant gaurantee it will be answered. My only question (that I hope will be answered in the info that will be sent) is what is the objective of the study and therefore why should we participate? BTW I'm away for three week from Friday, so will need to receive the info tomorrow. Rgds andy > -- > Andy Lake > Manager, Internet Services, CLEAR Communications Ltd > Tel +64 9 9124616, Fax +64 9 9125008, Mob 021 650017 > ISP http://www.clear.net.nz/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank March [SMTP:Frank.March(a)moc.govt.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 1999 16:16 > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Cc: Mark Holman > Subject: Assistance Required with survey of Internet survey > > Folks: > > You may recall the APEC TEL study on Internet costs that I have raised on > a > small number of occasions. This is now known as ICAIS (for: International > Charging Arrangements for Internet Services) and is proceeding. The group > conducting the study are to issue a survey and we need 5 people from major > ISPs in NZ to volunteer to assist by completing a pilot study in fairly > short order (before mid September). There will be more responses sought > at > a later date. I have appended a copy of the original message below. > > I would appreciate anyone prepared to assist to contact me directly and I > will pass the contact details on. I guess we need (if possible) someone > from Telecom/Xtra; Clear; IHUG; Voyager and at least one more. > > Here is the original message sent to our APEC TEL delegate or 'point of > contact' (POC), Mark Holman: > > <quote> > From: Vernon VASU(a)TAS.GOV.SG on 17/08/99 08:37 AM > > Hi Mark, > > Have to bother you for 2 things - > > 1. ICAIS - its coming along and we are in the survey phase. The > questionnaire > will come out shortly. Its pretty hefty and we would need some responses > in > time > for TEL20, where a prelim report will be given - so we are looking for a > 2 > stage approach towards gathering data. The 1st stage is to get about 5 > responses > from each economy in time for TEL20 and then more later. > > Because the questionnaire is quite large, we don't want to spring it on > anyone > unannounced, and on top of that, they might have questions as well. So the > plan > that Richard Thwaites, the consultants and I came up with is to request > that > POCs obtain the contact details of persons in a position to respond in 5 > of > the > biggest ISPs in their economy and pass them to the consultants through me. > When > the quesionnaire goes out, the POC would then send it to the 5 people. > ccing > the > consultants, who will follow-up with them. Does this sound ok with you? > Sorry to > spring this on you so soon after you have got back. > <end quote> > <second point deleted> > > Your attention is appreciated! > > Frank March > Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group > Ministry of Commerce, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ > Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658 > > > --------- > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Assistance Required with survey of Internet survey
by Frank March 18 Aug '99

18 Aug '99

Folks: You may recall the APEC TEL study on Internet costs that I have raised on a small number of occasions. This is now known as ICAIS (for: International Charging Arrangements for Internet Services) and is proceeding. The group conducting the study are to issue a survey and we need 5 people from major ISPs in NZ to volunteer to assist by completing a pilot study in fairly short order (before mid September). There will be more responses sought at a later date. I have appended a copy of the original message below. I would appreciate anyone prepared to assist to contact me directly and I will pass the contact details on. I guess we need (if possible) someone from Telecom/Xtra; Clear; IHUG; Voyager and at least one more. Here is the original message sent to our APEC TEL delegate or 'point of contact' (POC), Mark Holman: <quote> From: Vernon VASU(a)TAS.GOV.SG on 17/08/99 08:37 AM Hi Mark, Have to bother you for 2 things - 1. ICAIS - its coming along and we are in the survey phase. The questionnaire will come out shortly. Its pretty hefty and we would need some responses in time for TEL20, where a prelim report will be given - so we are looking for a 2 stage approach towards gathering data. The 1st stage is to get about 5 responses from each economy in time for TEL20 and then more later. Because the questionnaire is quite large, we don't want to spring it on anyone unannounced, and on top of that, they might have questions as well. So the plan that Richard Thwaites, the consultants and I came up with is to request that POCs obtain the contact details of persons in a position to respond in 5 of the biggest ISPs in their economy and pass them to the consultants through me. When the quesionnaire goes out, the POC would then send it to the 5 people. ccing the consultants, who will follow-up with them. Does this sound ok with you? Sorry to spring this on you so soon after you have got back. <end quote> <second point deleted> Your attention is appreciated! Frank March Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group Ministry of Commerce, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 10 Aug '99

10 Aug '99

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