August 2000 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

RE: Bizzareness and Oddity with IOS
by Scott, Arron 17 Aug '00

17 Aug '00

Not particularly odd to me, the 12.0T stream has various "new tchnologies" and "your milage may vary". Past VERY INTENSE relationships I have had with a number of 12.0T releases indicated that various hardware platforms behave very differently with each minor-release, and the activation of one feature or another also directly affects the behaviour. The 12.1 stream includes all the features of 12.0T, and is stabilising out well, you may want to look at trialling a release in there soon, if 12.04T gives you no luck. Arron Scott Systems Engineer Cisco Systems -----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of David Zanetti Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2000 14:46 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Bizzareness and Oddity with IOS On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Russell Sharpe wrote: > Based on your description of required features ie BGP on a firewall > feature set, you will need the following: > > c7200-ios-mz.12.0-4.T (32/16) <<...>> S72CH-12.0.4T or S72CH-12.0.4T=, > which is IP/Firewall. Hmmm.. very odd, 12.0(4)T with IP/FW leaked memory like there was no tomorrow on our 3640 :) 12.0(7)T with the same features doesn't leak memory (that I've noticed) and doesn't drop static routes either.. Although they are different hardware platforms, so perhaps that'll make the difference. I will obtain said image and try that :) -- David Zanetti <dave2(a)earthling.net> | Crowd: "Someone else, someone else!" Moderator, nz.politics.announce | Homer: "I'm someone else!" #include <geek/unix.h> | -- The Simpsons --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Bizzareness and Oddity with IOS
by Donald Neal 17 Aug '00

17 Aug '00

James Tyson wrote: > Hmmm.. very odd, 12.0(4)T with IP/FW leaked memory like there was no > tomorrow on our 3640 :) 12.0(7)T with the same features doesn't leak > memory (that I've noticed) and doesn't drop static routes either.. > > Although they are different hardware platforms, so perhaps that'll make > the difference. I will obtain said image and try that :) We have found pretty much every IOS 12 release up until 12.0([10..11])S has been either unstable, leaked memory, or had some bug with one of the interface types we are running. That's on our 7500's though. Our 7200 VXR is running 11S and is as happy as larry, and has been for some time. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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BOUNCE nznog@list.waikato.ac.nz: Admin request of type/\buns\w*b/i at line 9 -Forwarded
by Donald Neal 17 Aug '00

17 Aug '00

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Bizzareness and Oddity with IOS
by David Zanetti 17 Aug '00

17 Aug '00

Have a Cisco 7206 (not the newer VXR model, the older one) and attempted last night to upgrade IOS on it from 11.2(3) to 12.0(7)T. Seemed to run okay (nothing on boot jumped out and said "broken") and pinged various bits of the network, with no problems. Left and went home :) Got to work this morning to discover "Internet broken". (Eventually) noticed that the 7206 had dropped two static routes, one of which was the default route. Hmmm.. Add them back, and a few minutes later they disappear again. Hmmmm.. Perhaps it's something odd comming from the BGP sessions with the WIX route server? Drop BGP, it still forgets the static routes after a few minutes. At this point we decided to back out of the IOS upgrade, and rebooted with 11.2(3), which has been running fine since. We do have a 3640 with the same feature set/revision, and it doesn't exhibit this problem. Suggestions? Give up on 12.0(7)T and pick a later release? Give up on the 12.0 tree altogether? Give up on IOS and Cisco altogether? :)) -- David Zanetti <dave2(a)earthling.net> | Crowd: "Someone else, someone else!" Moderator, nz.politics.announce | Homer: "I'm someone else!" #include <geek/unix.h> | -- The Simpsons --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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WIX Route Reflectors
by James Tyson 16 Aug '00

16 Aug '00

Just so that everyone knows; I have disabled Xtra's peering sessions with the WIX route reflectors and am falling back to direct peering arrangements with other ISP's and networks. If you need to ask why, then take a look at some of the AS-path's that thing is propagating. If you do not have a direct peering arrangement with Xtra over the WIX then I suggest that you mail me at james.tyson(a)team.xtra.co.nz, and do it fast, because I am leaving next friday. Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Open spam relay at Port of Nelson
by Alan Brown 15 Aug '00

15 Aug '00

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spam relay at actrix: MISC: There's a Fungus (Spammer didn't rhyme) Among Us (fwd)
by Alan Brown 12 Aug '00

12 Aug '00

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Fwd: Re: surge in spam email (fwd)
by Andy Linton 10 Aug '00

10 Aug '00

Well I found this a reasonably rational description of the problem and amusing at the same time so I thought I'd share it with you all..... >X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 1.3 >Delivered-To: nanog-outgoing(a)merit.edu >X-Authentication-Warning: world.std.com: bzs set sender to >bzs(a)world.std.com using -f >From: Barry Shein <bzs(a)world.std.com> >Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:59:25 -0400 (EDT) >To: woods(a)weird.com (Greg A. Woods) >Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu >Subject: Re: surge in spam email (fwd) >X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.5.2 >Sender: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu >X-Loop: nanog > > > > >I think if *everyone* stood up at once and declared that open relays > >were bad for us all then there wouldn't be too much trouble because > >there'd be nowhere for frustrated customers to jump to! ;-) > >Ya know, Greg, if everyone in China jumped off a 12 inch stool >simultaneously it'd cause a tidal wave which would sweep over the >entire United States. > >Or maybe not. > >But it's not worth losing sleep over. > >I'm not really trying to be too sarcastic, but I think your world-view >of what the net has become is anachronistic and the idea that some >project like ORBS is going to harass every open-relay in the world, >every workstation capable of forwarding mail for example, into >behaving better is at this point in time kinda like the Chinese >footstool tidal wave (is that from Dr Strangelove? whatever.) > >No, we need a legislative approach, with some technical support to >help increase the likelihood that spammers who break the law will get >caught. But first it has to be illegal, or else it's all for naught. > >Put it this way: I consider my house locked up even if I do have glass >windows, and even if glass is rather easy to break. > >If it were legal for a person of ill intent to break the glass to get >into my house to rob me the first approach would not in my mind be to >board up all the glass unless I really lived in some mad max anarchy. > >I'd first want to see it made illegal to break into my property. > >Then, with reasonable diligence, I can enjoy the sunshine and spend my >time and money on more important things than trying to engineer it so >it's impossible to break in. > >Or at least I can do the cost/benefit analysis from the situation >where it's illegal to break in, rather than just a stupid cat and >mouse game as we're currently playing with spammers most of the time. > > > The Walrus and the Carpenter > Were walking close at hand; > They wept like anything to see > Such quantities of sand: > "If this were only cleared away," > They said, "It would be grand!" > > "If seven maids with seven mops > Swept for half a year, > Do you suppose," the walrus said, > "That they could get it clear?" > "I doubt it," said the Carpenter, > And shed a bitter tear. > > >-- > -Barry Shein > >Software Tool & Die | bzs(a)world.std.com | http://www.TheWorld.com >Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD >The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo* --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Open IP Directed Broadcast List... (fwd)
by Alan Brown 09 Aug '00

09 Aug '00

For those not on Bugtraq. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:59:37 -0400 From: dies <dies(a)PULLTHEPLUG.COM> To: BUGTRAQ(a)SECURITYFOCUS.COM Subject: Open IP Directed Broadcast List... Well, I've rescanned the Internet. I've chosen to scan down to /27 subnets this time. My new list of open broadcasts is available at.... http://www.pulltheplug.com If you are an ISP or work for one, PLEASE VISIT THIS SITE AND CHECK FOR YOUR NETWORKS OR DOWNSTREAMS!! If there are no broadcasts to use, there are no broadcast based attacks! 125102 networks broken...I've posted the top 4000 amp sites this time around... As always I'm looking for help...If you think you can help out, email me. Enjoy --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 06 Aug '00

06 Aug '00

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