January 2001 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

RE: Wireless APE.
by derek 23 Jan '01

23 Jan '01

That is true, They do conform to 802.11 which is the 2.4Ghz standard for indoors. It is good up to about 2500 feet away from the transmission site. The further out you go the slower the connection will run. Saying that I have seen 15kms out of this stuff, but you may only get about 500k. It depends on the quality of the install and the antenna you use. If you wanted to do it with Lucent buy a Lucent AP not ROR or COR . I have some for sale second hand. Also have some old bronze cards(10 and 2Mb) if anyone wants them. Derek Gaeth Network Manager Radionet Ltd 72 Paul Matthews Rd, Albany, Auckland +64 9 414 0300 +64 21 649173 -----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley(a)automagic.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:51 AM To: derek Cc: 'Matt Camp'; 'nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz' Subject: Re: Wireless APE. On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 04:27:04PM +1300, derek wrote: > It is not the equipment that determines the output, but the 2.4Ghz spectrum > regulations being 4 watts. It will cost you more for a WaveLan setup as > Lucent's outdoor solution (COR and ROR)does not conform to 802.11. They > have deployed there own proprietary polling system and they will not work > with any other vendor. So if you want to use a Linux box at home to save > cost you should go with Cisco, also the drivers for the Cisco card come > prepackaged in the latest Linux distributions. Lucent's bronze, silver and gold 11M turbo cards all talk 802.11b; last time I looked there was nothing to stop anybody using them for outdoor applications. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Wireless APE.
by derek 23 Jan '01

23 Jan '01

The sky tower is about the worst place in Auckland to do wireless from. The amount of noise coming off the sky tower is very high. You will only be able to cover a small area with each Cisco bridge due to interference around the CBD. The Cisco gear works in the 2.4Ghz Unlicensed band. The max power output is 4 watts at the antenna. The best thing on your home end would be a Linux box with a PCI cradle and Cisoc PCI card. Cheers, Derek Gaeth Radionet Ltd -----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of James Tyson Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:10 AM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Wireless APE. Just out of interest, how many people on this list; a) live in Auckland. b) have line of sight to the sky tower. c) would be willing to help chip in for a Cisco Aironet 340 wireless RIG, or similar to their home. It's just this crazy idea I had, and I figure the more people the cheaper it is. Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Wireless APE.
by Ben Martel 21 Jan '01

21 Jan '01

James, Yes to (a), (b) (windows 13,14,15,16,17,18) - unless you are thinking of multiple antennae! and (c). Remembering of course that most of the cost is for international transit rather than the gear. However I'm sure that between us that wouldn't be a problem :)) I have already tested a Lucent Orinocco ROR1000 to my home (Bastion point) from the Sky Tower, Lvl 48 with great success. Don't forget the cost of the rental of window space for the antenna as well! ~benm ------------------------------------------------------------ Ben Martel CLEAR Net > -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha_saarinen(a)email.msn.com] > Sent: Friday, 19 January 2001 11:22 a.m. > To: James Tyson; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: RE: Wireless APE. > > > Trying to compete with Ihug eh? ;-) > > Yes to a) & b)... and c) as well, I suppose, depending on the > size of the > chip so to speak. > > -- Juha > > %-> -----Original Message----- > %-> From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > %-> [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of James Tyson > %-> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:10 AM > %-> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > %-> Subject: Wireless APE. > %-> > %-> > %-> > %-> Just out of interest, how many people on this list; > %-> > %-> a) live in Auckland. > %-> b) have line of sight to the sky tower. > %-> c) would be willing to help chip in for a Cisco Aironet 340 > %-> wireless RIG, > %-> or similar to their home. > %-> > %-> It's just this crazy idea I had, and I figure the more people > %-> the cheaper > %-> it is. > %-> > %-> Cheers. > %-> > %-> James Tyson --- > %-> Samizdat New Media Solutions > %-> > %-> --------- > %-> To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to > majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > %-> where the body of your message reads: > %-> unsubscribe nznog > > > --------- > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Wireless APE.
by Chris Hellberg 21 Jan '01

21 Jan '01

Same response as Juha's. I've always had an idea of having a wireless-internet or wireless LAN co-op after I read a slashdot story about it. The only prob I can see with this is the yearly rental of the space at the sky tower for the comms gear. Aparently it's a few thousand a year. Chris >>> "Juha Saarinen" <juha_saarinen(a)email.msn.com> 01/19/01 11:21a.m. >>> Trying to compete with Ihug eh? ;-) Yes to a) & b)... and c) as well, I suppose, depending on the size of the chip so to speak. -- Juha %-> -----Original Message----- %-> From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz %-> [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of James Tyson %-> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:10 AM %-> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz %-> Subject: Wireless APE. %-> %-> %-> %-> Just out of interest, how many people on this list; %-> %-> a) live in Auckland. %-> b) have line of sight to the sky tower. %-> c) would be willing to help chip in for a Cisco Aironet 340 %-> wireless RIG, %-> or similar to their home. %-> %-> It's just this crazy idea I had, and I figure the more people %-> the cheaper %-> it is. %-> %-> Cheers. %-> %-> James Tyson --- %-> Samizdat New Media Solutions %-> %-> --------- %-> To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz %-> where the body of your message reads: %-> unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Wireless APE.
by James Tyson 20 Jan '01

20 Jan '01

Just out of interest, how many people on this list; a) live in Auckland. b) have line of sight to the sky tower. c) would be willing to help chip in for a Cisco Aironet 340 wireless RIG, or similar to their home. It's just this crazy idea I had, and I figure the more people the cheaper it is. Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Wireless APE
by Scott, Arron 19 Jan '01

19 Jan '01

Level 25 actually, what are you suggesting ??? :-) Arron -----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of James Tyson Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2001 4:31 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Wireless APE One more thing I wanted to ask is, can anyone think of a different place that we can house the equipment, maybe someone has access to the roof of a building in the CBD or something. Say, I hear that Cisco NZ is in Level 20 of the ASB Tower :) Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Wireless APE.
by Ben Martel 19 Jan '01

19 Jan '01

Y'all > There was also a rumor floating around that Walker Wireless had signed > some deal with Sky City which gave them exclusive use of > 2.4Ghz off the > tower, and that anyone else wanting to use that band would > have to go find > another high place. I have investigated this alot recently. The answer is that Walker Wireless have the first right to use of the Sky Tower as a beaming point. THis is not exclusive though. Providing that your equipment does not interfere with Walkers Wirelesses you can operate it from the Sky Tower. ~benm ------------------------------------------------ Ben Martel CLEAR Net --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Wireless APE
by James Tyson 19 Jan '01

19 Jan '01

One more thing I wanted to ask is, can anyone think of a different place that we can house the equipment, maybe someone has access to the roof of a building in the CBD or something. Say, I hear that Cisco NZ is in Level 20 of the ASB Tower :) Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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ihug finally gets to APE
by David Robb 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

The subject line says it all really... Anyone wanting to peer, let me know. AS 7657, 192.203.154.36 Prefix list available on request, if you don't have a copy already. David Robb --- Senior Network Engineer IHUG NZ "The Earth is a single point of failure" --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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(Fwd) New position at W3C: Web Internationalization
by Sue Leader 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

Greetings and Happy New Year. FYI Cheers Sue ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 21:00:32 +0900 To: apng-all(a)apng.org From: "Martin J. Duerst" <duerst(a)w3.org> Subject: New position at W3C: Web Internationalization Dear friends, colleagues, everybody, The W3C is trying to strengthen its effort on internationalization and has opened a new position. For details, please see below or at http://www.w3.org/2000/12/i18nposition. For other open positions at W3C, please see http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Recruitment/. Please feel free to forward this announcement to anybody who may be interested. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact Vincent Quint (mailto:quint(a)w3.org) or myself (mailto:duerst(a)w3.org). Please apologize if you get this announcement more than once. Regards, Martin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Position: Web Internationalization The [1]World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is looking for a new team member working on [2]Internationalization in its [3]User Interface (UI) domain, to assure proper internationalization of W3C technology. [1] http://www.w3.org/ [2] http://www.w3.org/International/Activity.html [3] http://www.w3.org/UI/ Your mission is to advance Web internationalization, so that Web technology becomes and stays usable for people around the world, independent of their language, script, or culture. In coordination with the Internationalization Activity Lead, and with the Internationalization Working Group and Interest Group, develop and review W3C specifications and guidelines with respect to internationalization, including followup work with other working groups; document existing best practices and contribute to develop Web internationalization architecture; give presentations on Web internationalization; maintain W3C Internationalization Web site. W3C Hosts are located at MIT in Boston, USA, at INRIA in Sophia-Antipolis and Grenoble in France, and at Keio University in Fujisawa, Japan. You will be based at INRIA, but you will have to travel often, to working group meetings or conferences as well as to the other W3C hosts. _________________________________________________________________ Requirements As the recognized leader for the technical development of the World Wide Web, we seek an individual with both Web technology and project management experience, a good understanding of the Web industry, eagerness to make the Web more international and interoperable, and enthusiasm for the [4]mission and spirit of W3C. * You have a background in computer science, software engineering, and internationalization * You are familiar with up-to-date Web technology, in particular with respect to internationalization * You have a good sense of the Web industry, its market, practices and product development cycle * You have good written and spoken competency in the working language of the W3C, English, and knowledge and practical experience of other languages and cultures * You have good communication skills, both written and oral * You are free to travel internationally on a monthly basis [4] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Points/ To apply, please send a motivation letter and your resume or CV in electronic form to Vincent Quint ([5]quint(a)w3.org) and Martin Duerst ([6]duerst(a)w3.org). _________________________________________________________________ [5] mailto:quint(a)w3.org [6] mailto:duerst(a)w3.org Martin Duerst 4 January 2001 ------- End of forwarded message ------- Sue Leader - Executive Director ISOCNZ (Internet Society of New Zealand Inc) Exe.Dir(a)isocnz.org.nz Voice: +64-4-801-6256 http://www.isocnz.org.nz Postal: Level 1, (e)-Vision Centre, 282 Wakefield St, Wellington "Error: Press any key to continue or any other key to quit..." --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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