February 2001 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

IOS & BGP
by James Tyson 26 Feb '01

26 Feb '01

Does anyone know what version of IOS the "bgp go faster you bitch" command appears in? It doesnt appear to be in 12.0(14)S. Sigh. Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: ATM card in Cisco 4500
by Scott, Arron 25 Feb '01

25 Feb '01

Not speaking on behalf of any company in particular, I just wanted to say I know of a number of 4500's and 4700's running in production with the ATM card. Their throughput is limited by the CPU performance, but you can expect to get upwards of 40Mbps through it. If you want more than an OC3 I would suggest you look at something like a 7600 OSR, not speaking on behalf of any company in particular of course. Now we just need a Telco or three in NZ to support ATM at STM-4 rates. Arron Scott -----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of Dennis Su Sent: Tuesday, 20 February 2001 7:04 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: ATM card in Cisco 4500 Hi, We would like to purchase a ATM card for a Cisco 4500. Someone has mentioned to us that its ATM card is not very stable, although I doubt it. 4500 series router has been on the market for such a long time after all. I wonder if anyone can give us some previous experience. Good or bad and what type, all welcome. Thanks, Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ----------------- Dennis Su, BSc MSc Network+ MCP CCNA CCDA CCNP CCDP Team Leader, Network Admin and Development IT Infrastructure, ITS, University of Waikato Hamilton, New Zealand phone:64 7 838 4183 email:d.su(a)waikato.ac.nz http://network-services.its.waikato.ac.nz/people/dennis.html --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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software required -- could be urgent
by Chris Wedgwood 24 Feb '01

24 Feb '01

... but probably it's not. Serious network software required. Only the network part isn't completely true :) I _need_ RollCage or RollCage II -- if I don't get this I'm sure something serious will happen; the entire Internet will stop routing or something. I am sure it will. I can feel it. I know the former was for sale at the warehouse for 20 bucks or so, but I can't find it now... the later, no idea. They are both old games by todays standards. Someone somewhere must have either both or one of these games. ... please ... :) --cw P.S. SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM! --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: ATM card in Cisco 4500
by Scott, Arron 23 Feb '01

23 Feb '01

ATM is FAR WORSE than that, but it helps sell stuff in New Zealand ;-) Arron Scott Not speaking for any company in particular -----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley(a)automagic.org] Sent: Friday, 23 February 2001 3:49 a.m. To: Scott, Arron Cc: Dennis Su; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500 On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:17:09PM +1100, Scott, Arron wrote: > Now we just need a Telco or three in NZ to support ATM at STM-4 > rates. Is anybody really waiting for that? If you're shifting an STM-4s worth of data around, it's probably a stream of packets, and it's probably IP, and you probably want to use POS. You probably don't want the additional complexity, cost, operational overhead, cell tax and SAR latency that using ATM would involve. Also, ATM is the work of Satan, which should be mentioned, for the record. Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: ATM card in Cisco 4500
by Scott, Arron 22 Feb '01

22 Feb '01

Yeah yeah ... we're all telling the Service Providers that Broadband is critical, but that still doesn't change the fact that ATM aggregation, ADSL/FR access, legacy support, and the ability to run a fair bit of point-to-point bandwidth over an STM-4 ATM access is still quite attractive for a market like NZ. And being one who had to fight VERY hard to get POS inside a certain Telco here at all, I would love to see more widespread use of it. STM/4 ATM gives my customers what they want and need, not what I want to sell !!! Arron Scott -----Original Message----- From: dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz [mailto:dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz] Sent: Friday, 23 February 2001 4:45 p.m. To: Scott, Arron Cc: Joe Abley; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500 I'd rather sell something that had a future, and not cripple networking in NZ any more than it already is. No matter how much easier it made the sale. Customers listen to what vendors have to say. Vendors should be telling them the truth, not just what they think will make the sale. Long live POS =) Dean Not speaking for, or about, any company in particular On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 02:01:55PM +1100, Scott, Arron wrote: > ATM is FAR WORSE than that, but it helps sell stuff in New Zealand ;-) > > Arron Scott > Not speaking for any company in particular > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley(a)automagic.org] > Sent: Friday, 23 February 2001 3:49 a.m. > To: Scott, Arron > Cc: Dennis Su; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500 > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:17:09PM +1100, Scott, Arron wrote: > > Now we just need a Telco or three in NZ to support ATM at STM-4 > > rates. > > Is anybody really waiting for that? If you're shifting an STM-4s worth > of data around, it's probably a stream of packets, and it's probably IP, > and you probably want to use POS. You probably don't want the additional > complexity, cost, operational overhead, cell tax and SAR latency that > using ATM would involve. > > Also, ATM is the work of Satan, which should be mentioned, for the > record. > > > Joe > --------- > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500
by dean＠flatnet.gen.nz 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Having a look on the Cisco Web site it seems that the fastest interface is an oc3. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/4700m.htm It might be an old website though. If it were me I would POC this to death before I bought it. The 4500 is pretty old and MAY not be able to feed an oc12 and do everything that you want it to do. Dean (Who does not speak on behalf of any employer) On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 11:40:17AM +1300, Lindsay Druett wrote: > OC12 > > -----Original Message----- > From: dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz [mailto:dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz] > Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2001 11:39 > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500 > > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 04:04:21PM +1300, Dennis Su wrote: > > > We would like to purchase a ATM card for a Cisco 4500. Someone has > > > mentioned to us that its ATM card is not very stable, although I doubt > it. > > > 4500 series router has been on the market for such a long time after > all. I > > > wonder if anyone can give us some previous experience. Good or bad and > what > > > type, all welcome. > > What speed ATM are you talking here? > > > Dean > (Who does not speak on behalf of any employer) > --------- > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500
by dean＠flatnet.gen.nz 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

=) No Problems. I'd still POC it, But thats just me. Dean (Who does not speak on behalf of any employer) On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 12:06:03PM +1300, Lindsay Druett wrote: > I beg your pardon, it is an OC3 indeed (what was I thinking ?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz [mailto:dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz] > Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2001 11:50 > To: Lindsay Druett; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500 > > > > Having a look on the Cisco Web site it seems that the fastest interface is > an oc3. > http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/4700m.htm > > It might be an old website though. > > If it were me I would POC this to death before I bought it. The 4500 is > pretty old and MAY not be able to feed an oc12 and do everything that you > want it to do. > > > Dean > (Who does not speak on behalf of any employer) > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 11:40:17AM +1300, Lindsay Druett wrote: > > OC12 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz [mailto:dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz] > > Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2001 11:39 > > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500 > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 04:04:21PM +1300, Dennis Su wrote: > > > > We would like to purchase a ATM card for a Cisco 4500. Someone has > > > > mentioned to us that its ATM card is not very stable, although I doubt > > it. > > > > 4500 series router has been on the market for such a long time after > > all. I > > > > wonder if anyone can give us some previous experience. Good or bad and > > what > > > > type, all welcome. > > > > What speed ATM are you talking here? > > > > > > Dean > > (Who does not speak on behalf of any employer) > > --------- > > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > where the body of your message reads: > > unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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ATM card in Cisco 4500
by Dennis Su 21 Feb '01

21 Feb '01

Hi, We would like to purchase a ATM card for a Cisco 4500. Someone has mentioned to us that its ATM card is not very stable, although I doubt it. 4500 series router has been on the market for such a long time after all. I wonder if anyone can give us some previous experience. Good or bad and what type, all welcome. Thanks, Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Dennis Su, BSc MSc Network+ MCP CCNA CCDA CCNP CCDP Team Leader, Network Admin and Development IT Infrastructure, ITS, University of Waikato Hamilton, New Zealand phone:64 7 838 4183 email:d.su(a)waikato.ac.nz http://network-services.its.waikato.ac.nz/people/dennis.html --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FYI: ihug DNS server ips.
by Simon Lyall 20 Feb '01

20 Feb '01

Just a note that ihug is in the process of changing it's main DNS ips (as used by customers). Previously almost all customers were using 203.29.160.4 and 203.29.160.2 but we have now switched to 203.109.252.42 and 203.109.252.43. It is likely that there are 10,000s of ihug and ex-ihug customers with the old ip's manually setup in their configurations. Since we are returning these networks to Telstra they will cease being advertised outside our network sometime next week. You may wish to warn your helpdesk to keep an eye open for this. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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New 2LD Voting - Feedback request
by Sue Leader 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Greetings There will be a meeting of the Council of the Society this Friday the 23rd. The Council will consider the following options in regard to voting rights for new 2LD applications. Your comments are encouraged: ================= Motion 1 Abstract The Request for Votes for the .bank.nz application requires a voting electorate. After review and consideration 3 options have been presented for discussion and voting. Option 1 The electorate for the RFV shall be members of good standing of ISOCNZ as of the day before the vote is called. Reason: Known community that is easy to reach and identify which has a greater propensity to understand the issues surrounding the vote. Option 2 The electorate for the RFV shall be name holders or name holder representatives of a name in the .nz name space. A person would be only be able to vote once no matter how many names they had that qualified. Reason: The addition of a new 2LD directly affects current name holders. By having a name in the .nz spaces means they are an existing stakeholder in the .nz name space. Option 3 The electorate for the RFV shall be any person that has an email address in the .nz name space, i.e. steven.heath(a)isocnz.org.nz but not steven.heath(a)seranova.com. A person would be only be able to vote once no matter how many email addresses they had that qualified. Reason: By having an address in the .nz name space means they have an affinity with .nz and provides the widest possible community. Also does not exclude anyone based on having membership or an existing name. Preferred Motion 1 wording: That the electorate for the RFV for the .bank.nz be any person that has an email address in the .nz name space. A person would be only be able to vote once no matter how many email addresses they had that qualified. ======= Cheers Sue Sue Leader - Executive Director ISOCNZ (Internet Society of New Zealand Inc) Exe.Dir(a)isocnz.org.nz Voice: +64-4-801-6256 http://www.isocnz.org.nz PLEASE NOTE CHANGE: P.O.Box 11-881, Wellington --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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