March 2001 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

nzmbone
by James Tyson 13 Mar '01

13 Mar '01

Hey matey-peeps. Just letting you all know that I am right now listening to a multicast MP3 stream of BFM kindly casted over APE by IHUG (Thanks David). I'm still getting the greeblies out of my multicast routing, but it's getting there. So who else feels like putting up some content? (I was thinking of casting Triangle TV). Cheers. James Tyson. Self-Deluded Governing Minority, Attica Network Operations. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Spammers like Xtra?
by Keith Davidson 07 Mar '01

07 Mar '01

Is anyone else experiencing problems with Xtra failing to take meaningful action against spammers? My ISP has had complaints about an Xtra user, computerkids(a)xtra.co.nz and traditional contact with abuse(a)xtra results in nothing more than slaps over the wrist with wet bus tickets. HISTORY OF UCE FROM Mark Lancaster Nightingale Press 335 Beechey Street, Pirongia Tel/Fax: 07 871 9691 Email computerkidz(a)xtra.co.nz First UCE from him received on 13 February. Complaint lodged abuse(a)xtra. Second UCE received on 18 February. Complaint lodged abuse(a)xtra Third UCE received on 7 March. Actual copy of UCE below sig. My complainant states: "I then rang Xtra (finally got through to Customer Support desk) and advised that I wished to verbally complain about one of their customers spamming and that I had laid complaints on two occasions and seemingly no action had been taken. The person on their help desk took the email address of the spammer and then advised me that this person had had two warnings and I should email abuse(a)xtra again. I said that was not satisfactory and wondered how many warnings one of their users had to get before any action was taken by xtra. The Help Desk clerk said he would check and put me on hold for a few minutes. When he came back he advised me that quite a number of warnings had to be issued before any action was taken. He suggested I filter the perpetrator and I told him that that didn't fix the problem. He asked if there was anything abusive or rude in the email and I advised that whilst there was nothing along those lines that I personally found uce offensive. He advised me to lodge a further complaint with abuse(a)xtra.co.nz and I told him that I had warned xtra on a previous occasion that if no action was forthcoming to solve the problem that I intended to take the matter further." Does anyone in Xtra take these issues seriously? It is just nonsensical for Xtra staff to suggest filtering etc - it doesn't stop the source. Is the $25 per month so important to Xtra's revenue that they wont take real action? Or does Xtra like being known as a "spam friendly" ISP? Most ISP's seem to work on "2 strikes and you're out", mine included. Just what does it take for Xtra to kick someone? Anyone else having similar problems from this quarter? Any suggestions of a method of escalating the issue that might get a resolution? Keith Davidson ________________________________________________ Return-Path: <computerkidz(a)xtra.co.nz> Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by kiwi.wise.net.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id KAA32673 for <office(a)wairarapa.school.nz>; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:15:02 +1300 Received: from marklanc ([210.54.202.229]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20010306211551.EQOL2261674.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz(a)marklanc>; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:15:51 +1300 From: "Mark Lancaster" <computerkidz(a)xtra.co.nz> To: <computerkidz(a)xtra.co.nz> Subject: PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO THE MATHS DEPT. - THANK YOU Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:10:19 +1300 Message-ID: <NCBBJGLIOPJEFADAPBMEIEANIJAA.computerkidz(a)xtra.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C0A6EE.D1102F60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-UIDL: +lP!!HH!#!/9d!!D:("! This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C0A6EE.D1102F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nightingale Press 335 Beechey Street, Pirongia Tel/Fax: 07 871 9691 Hi I would just like to tell you about a new series of Blackline Masters we have just released called "MATHS OUTCOMES". The strands they cover throughout the series are - SPACE, MEASUREMENT, NUMBER and WORKING MATHEMATICALLY. There are 7 books in the series starting from Kindy (early stage 1) right through to Upper Primary levels. Each book contains 53 pages of photocopiable worksheets covering all the above topics. All the activities in this set of Blackline Masters are used to support lessons introduced by the teacher in class. The work presented on each page has been carefully designed to provide a different approach to maths by involving memory games , matching activities and it allows the child to offer reasoning for their answers and choices. It is designed to help children understand, consolidate and extend concepts and skills. The price is $29.95 per book and they are all available on approval. If you would like to order any (or all) of the books in this superb series, please just return this email stating copies required, the name and address of your school and any order numbers, or you could order by fax/phone. Many thanks for taking the time to read this email. Mark ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C0A6EE.D1102F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <snip endless html rubbish> --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NLX PSU's
by Matt Camp 06 Mar '01

06 Mar '01

Might be slightly off topic, but does anyone know where to source power supplies for NLX type PC cases? Insite used to have them, but since their merger with Renaissance, have obsoleted the product line. --- Matt Camp --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Telecom Peering
by Tony Wicks 06 Mar '01

06 Mar '01

Hi all, I have been chasing my Telecom account Manager for months to get some progress on this, so I thought I would throw it out here and see where every one else is with this. We currently peer with all major ISP's and backbone providors over either or both WIX and APE. The notable exception being Telecom Netgate ( we do peer directly with Xtra on WIX ). We are paying Telecom currently for a PVC to Netgate for peering with them and I am unhappy for this to continue. ( especially as we have almost twice the outgoing traffic to them as we recieve from them ! ). I have had nothing more than "I'll get back to you" when attempting to initiate peering with Telecom ( not Xtra ). It seems very strange to me that Clear, Telstra and everyone else is responsive and happy to work for the greater good of the Internet users in the country, but Telecom only seems interested if someone else is paying for it. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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www.apnic.net
by Tony Wicks 04 Mar '01

04 Mar '01

Can anyone get to this website at the moment ? I can't seem to make a connection ( apart from cached objects ) from NZ, AU or the US to the site. kappa:staff/tonyw 4:45pm > dig www.apnic.net ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> www.apnic.net ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 6 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; www.apnic.net, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.apnic.net. 30m36s IN A 203.37.255.97 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: apnic.net. 30m36s IN NS ns.apnic.net. apnic.net. 30m36s IN NS svc00.apnic.net. apnic.net. 30m36s IN NS ns.ripe.net. apnic.net. 30m36s IN NS rs.arin.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns.apnic.net. 1h5m19s IN A 203.37.255.97 ns.apnic.net. 30m36s IN AAAA ::ffff:203.37.255.97 svc00.apnic.net. 1d18h6m27s IN A 202.12.28.131 svc00.apnic.net. 30m36s IN AAAA ::ffff:202.12.28.131 ns.ripe.net. 1d9h57m19s IN A 193.0.0.193 rs.arin.net. 1d18h6m27s IN A 192.149.252.21 ;; Total query time: 35 msec ;; FROM: kappa to SERVER: default -- 205.201.44.9 ;; WHEN: Sun Mar 4 16:45:14 2001 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 31 rcvd: 248 kappa:staff/tonyw 4:45pm > traceroute 203.37.255.97 traceroute to 203.37.255.97 (203.37.255.97), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 master-gw.lm.net (205.201.1.1) 24.433 ms 19.029 ms 4.986 ms 2 263.ATM1-0.GW5.PIT1.alter.net (157.130.22.193) 516.424 ms 453.962 ms 502.864 ms 3 539.at-2-0-0.XR2.DCA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.178) 33.179 ms 25.498 ms 13.896 ms 4 294.at-7-1-0.XR2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (146.188.163.26) 22.794 ms 28.986 ms 25.275 ms 5 POS7-0.BR5.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.45) 9.957 ms 10.352 ms 12.454 ms 6 137.39.52.158 (137.39.52.158) 429.94 ms 552.788 ms 521.643 ms 7 so-3-0-0.washdc3-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.4.169) 105.349 ms 188.541 ms 155.406 ms 8 so-7-0-0.washdc3-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.30) 134.572 ms 190.48 ms 183.578 ms 9 p9-0.phlapa1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.186) 154.443 ms 135.832 ms 139.77 ms 10 p15-0.phlapa1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.89) 476.805 ms 521.494 ms 458.769 ms 11 p13-0.nycmny1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.178) 36.583 ms 34.301 ms 14.657 ms 12 p15-0.nycmny1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.209) 492.356 ms 481.979 ms 427.66 ms 13 p4-0.snjpca1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.9.157) 141.027 ms 100.905 ms 105.643 ms 14 p10-0.lsanca2-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.8.26) 510.23 ms 562.834 ms 580.358 ms 15 p15-0.lsanca2-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.5.46) 549.424 ms 535.577 ms 563.447 ms 16 p1-0.lsanca1-cr9.bbnplanet.net (4.24.5.202) 558.399 ms 468.532 ms 507.453 ms 17 p0-0.telstra4.bbnplanet.net (4.24.206.42) 137.123 ms 203.719 ms 207.281 ms 18 Pos2-3.pad-core3.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.126.45) 749.915 ms 654.554 ms 735.379 ms 19 GigabitEthernet4-1.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.201) 612.906 ms 660.024 ms 715.141 ms 20 Pos2-0.cha-core4.Brisbane.telstra.net (203.50.6.118) 357.183 ms 262.34 ms 264.331 ms 21 GigabitEthernet4-0.cha-core3.Brisbane.telstra.net (203.50.45.1) 307.158 ms 318.389 ms 412.24 ms 22 Fddi0-0.cha8.Brisbane.telstra.net (139.130.247.230) 349.427 ms 305.048 ms 260.397 ms 23 apnic1.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.64.98) 835.272 ms 726.571 ms 770.458 ms 24 ns.apnic.net (203.37.255.97) 711.432 ms 782.982 ms 735.846 ms kappa:staff/tonyw 4:46pm > lynx www.apnic.net Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. lynx: Can't access startfile http://www.apnic.net/ kappa:staff/tonyw 4:48pm > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. This list has just over 210 subscribers, growing by a handful each month. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Telecom NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations (nor the administrator) is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ To search the archive, see http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/search.html (and remember to select nznog). Subscribing to the List To subscribe to the NZNOG list, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, where the body of the message reads subscribe nznog There are at present no restrictions on who may subscribe to the list, or even on who may post to the list. Digest Mailing List If you don't wish to receive postings as they are sent, you can instead subscribe to the nznog-digest mailiing list, on which all postings are sent out in a single "digest" every couple of days. Other Activities NZNOG does not at present have other regular activities than this mailing list, though the administrator is on the hunt for presenters for the annual Uniforum NZ conference, to be held in the second half of the year. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Reminder: SRS Green Paper Closes Tomorrow
by Sue Leader 02 Mar '01

02 Mar '01

Greetings Just a reminder that submissions for the SRS Green Paper close at 5pm tomorrow Friday March 2. Submissions should be sent direct to exe.dir(a)isocnz.org.nz. Cheers Sue Sue Leader - Executive Director ISOCNZ (Internet Society of New Zealand Inc) Exe.Dir(a)isocnz.org.nz Voice: +64-4-801-6256 http://www.isocnz.org.nz PLEASE NOTE CHANGE: P.O.Box 11-881, Wellington --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZ Network List
by Pete 01 Mar '01

01 Mar '01

Hiyas Does anyone on here keep an up-to-date list of IP networks that are considered to be 'inside NZ'. Ie some carriers charge for International traffic but not National and I was wondering if anyone had a list of what is considered 'National' ? Rgds, Pete Pete Mundy - Technician Advanced Communications +64-3-546-9169 / +64-25-480-840 E-Mail: Pete(a)AdvComm.Co.NZ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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