December 2002 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

Updates - Ingress Prefix Filter Templates
by Barry Raveendran Greene 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

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Re: APNIC Training in New Zealand - 10 Dec 2002
by Simon Blake 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

Hi Folks. First up, a big thank you to Miwa, Elly and Nurani for the excellent presentation this morning in Wellington - as an APNIC newbie, I found it really helpful. Likewise two thumbs up to Bill Woodcock for the thought provoking discussion in the afternoon on the mechanics and politics of peering - those of you who haven't had a chance to listen to Bill, I suggest you buttonhole him when he's in Auckland next week, if you feed him beer he's sure to regale you with his doughnut theory of peering failure :-). Lastly, an marvelous job of overcatering by the folks at Datacom - ta muchly! Best $100 seminar I've been to in a long, long time. Keeping this vaguely operational, Bill has started the INOC-DBA system http://www.pch.net/inoc-dba/ Simplistically, it means that you crank up a Cisco 7960 phone, configure it to use Bill's server, and you get dial-an-ASN - ring an ASN, and with any luck it'll ring on the desk of somebody who might have something sensible to say about the ASN you just rang: -- "One of the benefits of this network which is most frequently cited by its users is the fact that callers are pre-screened for clue. Calls cannot enter the network from the outside PSTN. We would like to maintain that high ratio of signal to noise in order to keep the utility of the network as high as possible for its users." -- It seems to me to be a great idea, and not just because Bill has slapped a 7960 down on my desk to try it out :-). Bill is installing the phone at Citylink tomorrow (Tuesday) morning - anybody else interested in testing this while Bill is in town, grab a phone and send ASN/IP/Contact/MAC details through ASAP. Cheers Si On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 03:22:03PM +1000, Champika Wijayatunga said: > > Dear APNIC Member, > > APNIC is pleased to announce that we are planning to have a training > course in New Zealand on 10 December 2002 on "Effective IP > Address Management: Asia-Pacific Policies and Procedures". > > The APNIC training courses are currently offered on a sponsored basis to > APNIC members and it is subsidised for them. But non-members are also > welcome and however, they are usually charged a slightly higher fee. > > Basically these charges are to recover our costs on a non-profit basis. > Previously this training course fee has ranged from 'No charge' to > USD75.00 (charged in local currency) depending on the location & the > sponsorships. Training materials, Lunch and refreshments will be provided. > > We would like to get the input from APNIC members regarding this training. > We greatly appreciate if you could answer the following few questions and > send it to us. Please note that this is NOT a registration form. This > information is considered for our evaluation purposes only. > > * Your name & e-mail id: > > * Your company / APNIC Account name: > > * Are you interested in attending this training? Yes/No > > * How many participants will attend from your organisation? > > * Would you like to assist us in sponsoring this training? Yes/No > If so in which way? (ex: providing a training venue, lunch & > refreshments for the participants etc.) > If you are interested in sponsorships please let us know, so that we > can update you about the sponsorship benefits. > > * Any suggestion for a location(city)/hotel? > > * Are you aware of any Internet related conference happening in New > Zealand during December 2002 ? > > * Other comments > > Thank you for your cooperation ! > > We look forward to hearing from you soon. > > Warmest Regards, > Champika. > _____________________________________________________________________ > Champika Wijayatunga, Training Manager <champika(a)apnic.net> > Asia Pacific Network Information Centre phone: +61 7 3858 3100 > http://www.apnic.net fax: +61 7 3858 3199 > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Domainz spams entire .nz whois database
by Tim John 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

> However, competitors like 2day.com are in effect disadvantaged by this, > because they may want to offer their services as well, but they're not > in the same position as Domainz, and don't have existing relationships > with .nz name holders. But surely that is at the discretion of the .nz Provider - and in this instance (and there are reasons), 2Day.com have not signed the accreditation agreement, so the customers are actually that of Domainz. There are a significant number of domain names in the Registry that we _know_ are customers of Peter Mott, although they have registered with Domainz for their domain names. We fully expect Peter to contact his customers if, no when Peter becomes a Registrar and try to move them from us. This is fair competition. I'm sure there will be many other Providers are in the same boat and will try and entice their customers (and indeed everyone else's) away from Domainz. Obviously, Domainz must try and introduce facilities to keep our customers but the new marketplace is here. People now have choice. The email distributed this morning was to name holders of domain names that are directly billed by Domainz. How can this be spam ? Tim -----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] Sent: Sunday, 8 December 2002 11:48 a.m. To: Matt Brown Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Domainz spams entire .nz whois database On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Matt Brown wrote: > Interesting to note that the individual who started this thread is now > a competitor to Domainz. I think it's a tricky one: it's fair to say that Domainz has an existing relationship with .nz name holders and thus, as you say, can communicate with its customers. However, competitors like 2day.com are in effect disadvantaged by this, because they may want to offer their services as well, but they're not in the same position as Domainz, and don't have existing relationships with .nz name holders. They'd be spamming if they were to try the same thing, basically. -- Juha Saarinen - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog DISCLAIMER: The content of this email is confidential and may contain legally privileged information intended only for the individual or entity named above. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that the use, distribution and publication of the above information is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please contact Domainz by returning the email and destroying the original. Thank you. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Whois Server
by Ewen McNeill 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

In message <000101c29e78$9888ee10$0800a8c0(a)roadshow.org>, "Steve Winter" writes: >Was I asleep the day that someone mentioned that whois.domainz.net.nz no >longer existed, or is it simply a temporary situation this afternoon >that prevents me from getting anything useful from there...??...if it's >gone, can anyone point me in the direction of an alternative for the .nz >domain space.. whois.srs.net.nz That talks directly to the SRS database using the SRS Registrar/Registry protocol. The output format is similar, but different from the Domainz one; the format is documented at: http://dnc.org.nz/content/srs-whois-spec.html (A quick test suggests that the fix for the bug that Joe Abley mentioned to me (regarding timezone formatting) has gone live.) Last I heard whois.domainz.net.nz was eventually going to be pointed at the whois.srs.net.nz server (because "whois.domainz.net.nz" is hardcoded as a name into some whois clients), but AFAIK that hasn't been done yet. It appears that whois.domainz.net.nz is just down at present, and presumably will be back up again RSN. Ewen - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Domainz spams entire .nz whois database
by Ewen McNeill 08 Dec '02

08 Dec '02

In message <3.0.6.32.20021209095454.008f6430(a)mail.igrin.co.nz>, Simon Byrnand wr ites: >At 12:51 8/12/02 -0800, Chris Wedgwood wrote: >>On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 08:06:46AM +1300, Peter Mott wrote: >>> We note that Domainz has spammed every .nz registrart promoting new >>> URL and Email redirection services to be offered in the new year. >> >>A few people claim not to have seen this... attached. > >Now EVERYONE has seen it, whether they wanted to or not ;-) My best guess is that it was sent to the Admin Contact or Technical Contact. I have three domains registered at present, and only received one copy of the message, to the address used on all the Technical Contacts, and some of the Admin Contacts. I also suspect that it probably only went to "Domainz Customers" (ie, those with names not listed against another "registrar"). Which probably makes it technically not spam (ie, existing business relationship). A note on the website might have caused less concern than a large mailout though. Ewen - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Whois Server
by Steve Winter 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

Hi, Was I asleep the day that someone mentioned that whois.domainz.net.nz no longer existed, or is it simply a temporary situation this afternoon that prevents me from getting anything useful from there...??...if it's gone, can anyone point me in the direction of an alternative for the .nz domain space.. Thanks Steve

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Re: Domainz spams entire .nz whois database
by Matt Brown 07 Dec '02

07 Dec '02

I personally appreciated receiving this email from Domainz and do not in any way consider it spam. I am a customer of Domainz and appreciate that Domainz are making an effort to keep me informed of the changes in the domain name system. Interesting to note that the individual who started this thread is now a competitor to Domainz. -- Matt Brown - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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GEEK.NZ
by Joe Abley 05 Dec '02

05 Dec '02

On Friday 30 August 2002 Dean Pemberton wrote: > Just got this back from InternetNZ re the .geek.nz submission. > > Interesting to note two things. > > 1) My request to have .geek.nz processed at the same time as .bank.nz > was > rejected. They can only apparently handle one at a time. > 2) There will be no more 2ld's until they finish a full review. > > Got in just in time but there will be no .celt.nz =( The wheels are in motion! http://geek.nznog.org/ Come, geeks! To arms! Reclaim your heritage! Add your name to the list! Stand up and be counted! etc! [obOnTopicContent: beers are on Dean if this gets the kind of voter support it so clearly deserves; developers: better not hard-code those regexes, geek.nz is coming; ISP helpdesks: prepare your staff to answer the surely massive barrage of interest in getting geek.nz domains from customers; NetOps: stand by for floods of traffic to authoritative servers as people who can't stand the excitement issue thousands of resolver requests for names under GEEK.NZ, etc, etc, etc.] GEEK.NZ CONSULTATION PROCESS BEGINS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 6 December 2002 The first stage in the approval process for the proposed new GEEK.NZ second-level domain has begun. The office of the NZ Domain Name Commissioner has confirmed that a timetable for processing the GEEK.NZ application has been proposed, with public consultation to take place over the Christmas period. "The application for GEEK.NZ was submitted a few months ago, but we were happy to let the Domain Name Commissioner delay the approval process until the BANK.NZ application had been dealt with," confirmed Dean Pemberton, who made the initial application. The application for GEEK.NZ was made on behalf of the community technicians and engineers who built the Internet infrastructure in New Zealand over the past twenty years, and who continue to push it forward today. Despite the changing fortunes of the Internet and telecommunications industries, the technical community responsible for keeping the Internet running smoothly remains tightly knit and well-connected. "GEEK.NZ defines a distinct community of interest, just as other second-level domains do," explains Andy Linton. "However, GEEK.NZ also provides an opportunity for deploying additional, more experimental services such as DNS Security (DNSSEC) and IPv6, which are many years away from deployment in other registries, like CO.NZ." Linton sees GEEK.NZ performing a role for DNS service which is analogous to the role the high-speed, optical research network, "Internet2", provides for ISPs. "The community which GEEK.NZ serves is technical, and is driven by the development of technology in a way that the communities served by other second-level domains are not. You couldn't experiment with DNSSEC in CO.NZ without risking the quality of service that the commercial community expects, but experimentation is a way of life for the geek community," Linton added. GEEK.NZ will provide a place in the DNS where the community of technical people in New Zealand can express itself, thrive and expand. Providing recognition to the technical community in this way will allow New Zealand to demonstrate its commitment to the people who fuel the knowledge economy, and help slow the otherwise steady procession of technical people leaving the country every year. The approval process for GEEK.NZ includes a period for public consultation, which is followed by a vote conducted over the internet. Pemberton expects the NZ Domain Name Commissioner to publish the timetable for consultation this week. For more information, contact: media(a)geek.nznog.org More information on the GEEK.NZ proposal can be found at: http://geek.nznog.org/ ENDS - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Joining the team
by Andy Linton 05 Dec '02

05 Dec '02

Anyone who wants to help with this and get beer from Dean should look at the web site listed in Joe's posting for details. Good to see the tradition of geeks not reading the documentation lives on! (:-) Let's not fill nznog with discussion on this. andy - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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New ASN allocation from IANA to RIPE
by Rob Thomas 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi, NZNOG listfolk. [ Apologies to those of you who have seen this note in other fora. ] As of 03 December 2002 IANA has allocated a block of formerly unallocated ASNs to RIPE. I have adjusted my monitoring accordingly, and you should review any ASN filtering or logging you have in place. The ASN ranges involved are: Was: 28672 - 32767 IANA Now: 28672 - 29695 RIPE 29696 - 32767 IANA You will find the IANA master ASN list here: http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers My ASN monitoring can be found at the following URLs: http://www.cymru.com/BGP/asnbogusrep.html http://www.cymru.com/BGP/asnreport.html http://www.cymru.com/BGP/ Comments and feedback are welcome and encouraged. Be the first (heck, even second) in your ASN to join the CREDITS section! :) Thanks, Rob. -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty); - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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