January 2006 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

list.waikato.ac.nz Has Moved
by Donald Neal 11 Dec '24

11 Dec '24

NZNOG-People, I have just finished migrating all of the mailing lists held at The University of Waikato from one server to another. I don't have any reason to believe that anything's gone wrong, but please bear with me for today if it turns out that something has. - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal | Q: How many Aucklanders does it take to change Systems Programmer/Analyst | a light bulb? The University of Waikato | A: Pass me that candle and I'll tell you. Hamilton, New Zealand | --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature sens ors/servers for Auckland?
by Greg Clare 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

May not be exactly what you are after? However DSE have an Internet weather station at the Albany HQ. http://www.dse.gen.nz/public/webdata/weather.htm Regards Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2002 2:47 pm > To: NZNOG > Subject: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature > sensors/servers for Auckland? > > > Measuring the outside temperature, with geographic location given. > > -- > Juha > Take off every sig! > > - > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 31 Dec '07

31 Dec '07

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. Meetings Our next annual conference is to be hosted by the WAND group in Hamilton on February 2nd to 4th, 2005. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more information, including the Call For Presentations. Offers to present are due in by 22nd October, and all presenters should have had their acceptance confirmed by 31st October. Also see http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering Exchange and those connected there. See http://www.wix.net.nz/ for the Wellington Internet Exchange. About This Mailing List This list has slightly over 700 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins Donald Neal |Palmersdale: Are you in charge here? Technical Specialist |The Doctor: No, but I'm full of Operations Engineering | ideas. Integration & Services Division +----------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fwd: FW: SORBs blacklisting Paradise MTAs
by Paul Adshead 22 Feb '06

22 Feb '06

Having previously been listed on the SORBS list, I can say from personal experience that trying to get any information from them is like trying to draw blood from a stone. You just give up - there is quite literally nothing you can do. The legal stuff on their site says something like "you are not supposed to block access based on information on this site", yet that is exactly why their site has been created. That's their legal 'get out' to avoid all liability. Their attitude stinks. They are quite happy to cripple your business for days/weeks at a time and their response time after an issue has been resolved is pathetic. Paul -----Original Message----- From: neil gardner [mailto:neil.gardner(a)alliedtelesyn.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:12 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] SORBs blacklisting Paradise MTAs Hi gents (and gentesses) I reported to Paradise that Sorbs was blacklisting a particular Paradise MTA last night (details below) and their response was that sorbs refuse to whitelist them so there's nothing they can do about it... The further state that "SORBS automatically delist the servers after a 48 hour time period, and mail passing through the once affected mail server should flow as per normal." yet the information pasted below seems to indicate that the particular IP I reported has been on the list since Dec 11th 2005. They're spinning me a line right? The Sorbs record hasn't been updated since Dec 11th! *--- Info from sorbs as of 5 minutes ago *--- Address: 203.96.152.180 Record Created: Sun Dec 11 13:53:04 2005 GMT Record Updated: Sun Dec 11 13:53:04 2005 GMT Additional Information: Received: from linda-1.paradise.net.nz (bm-1a.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.180]) by vampire.isux.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58986B90C; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Currently active and flagged to be published in DNS *--- end info from sorbs *--- Why would Paradise deliberately avoid resolving this issue when pointed out to them? If anyone from Paradise / Telstraclear would like to jump in and explain why your helpdesker effectively refused to do anything about the situation then I'm all ears. Yes, I did report to Paradise through the appropriate mechanism, then I replied to their automated response, then this morning I phoned to report it and had my number taken (no-one has phoned back) and a few minutes ago I received the reply to the original message saying they can't do anything. Cheers - Neil G Neil Gardner Product Manager Allied Telesyn Research Ltd New Zealand +64 3 339-9509 (ph) +64 3 339-3001 (fax) NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesyn Research Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesyn Research. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG conference
by Donald Neal 20 Feb '06

20 Feb '06

> From: David Robb [mailto:ender(a)paradise.gen.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2006 10:18 a.m. > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [nznog] NZNOG conference > > Is there any further information available for this? ie > costs, who else is > speaking? > > I'm going to need to make a decision very soon as to whether > or not I can > justify my attendance. As to who is speaking, we've run into a problem with a number of speakers agreeing to provide abstracts to go on the web site, then not getting around to providing them. You know who you are. Among our more virtuous speakers are Mark Foster Bridging the Gap Between Support and the NOC Richard Hulse The Economics of Peering Peter Komisarczuk Location Determination for WLAN and 3G Hamish MacEwan Peering - The Customer Perspective Ian McDonald TCP Congestion Control Andrew McMillan Extending SPF to include policy for TLS Dean Pemberton Investigations into Internet Background Radiation Geoff Scrimgeour Welcome to The Loop Scott Walsh Network Security through Firewall Segregation Bill Woodcock Building Global Content-Distribution Networks I expect to announce more during the coming week. - Donald Neal Donald Neal |"I'm busy. I have papers to read, Support Engineer |reports to write, bosses to NGN Operations |infuriate." - Lt. Giardello Integration & Services Division +----------------------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050901 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060201 source: NZRR --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050901 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060201 source: NZRR

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SORBs blacklisting Paradise MTAs
by neil gardner 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

Hi gents (and gentesses) I reported to Paradise that Sorbs was blacklisting a particular Paradise MTA last night (details below) and their response was that sorbs refuse to whitelist them so there's nothing they can do about it... The further state that "SORBS automatically delist the servers after a 48 hour time period, and mail passing through the once affected mail server should flow as per normal." yet the information pasted below seems to indicate that the particular IP I reported has been on the list since Dec 11th 2005. They're spinning me a line right? The Sorbs record hasn't been updated since Dec 11th! *--- Info from sorbs as of 5 minutes ago *--- Address: 203.96.152.180 Record Created: Sun Dec 11 13:53:04 2005 GMT Record Updated: Sun Dec 11 13:53:04 2005 GMT Additional Information: Received: from linda-1.paradise.net.nz (bm-1a.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.180]) by vampire.isux.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58986B90C; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Currently active and flagged to be published in DNS *--- end info from sorbs *--- Why would Paradise deliberately avoid resolving this issue when pointed out to them? If anyone from Paradise / Telstraclear would like to jump in and explain why your helpdesker effectively refused to do anything about the situation then I'm all ears. Yes, I did report to Paradise through the appropriate mechanism, then I replied to their automated response, then this morning I phoned to report it and had my number taken (no-one has phoned back) and a few minutes ago I received the reply to the original message saying they can't do anything. Cheers - Neil G Neil Gardner Product Manager Allied Telesyn Research Ltd New Zealand +64 3 339-9509 (ph) +64 3 339-3001 (fax) NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesyn Research Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesyn Research.

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Re: [nznog] SORBs blacklisting Paradise MTAs
by Nic Wise 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

If it's any help - and I'd expect most people here to know this anyway - Paradise pop up on RBL's so often, I've had to add a whitelist for them in my system, or most of the people I know (who use cable) get blocked. This isn't a new thing at all. :) Cheers Nic > -----Original Message----- > From: neil gardner [mailto:neil.gardner(a)alliedtelesyn.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2006 2:12 p.m. > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [nznog] SORBs blacklisting Paradise MTAs > > Hi gents (and gentesses) > > I reported to Paradise that Sorbs was blacklisting a > particular Paradise MTA last night (details below) and their > response was that sorbs refuse to whitelist them so there's > nothing they can do about it... > > The further state that "SORBS automatically delist the > servers after a 48 hour time period, and mail passing through > the once affected mail server should flow as per normal." yet > the information pasted below seems to indicate that the > particular IP I reported has been on the list since Dec 11th 2005. >

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Update re NZNOG 06 Pricing
by Mark Foster 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

In light of recent enquiries, The Organising Committee for NZNOG 06 can confirm that the rates-per-person for attendance at NZNOG06 are likely to be in the ballpark of $250/person. If anything they will wind up lower than this, as sponsorship arrangements are finalised, etc. Note: This does NOT include accomodation, but it does include morning coffee, lunch, and afternoon tea, as well as the conference dinner. More info as it comes to hand; this info will be added to the nznog.org site when I get somewhere that allows SSH out its firewall. :) I hope this info is enough for people to get their respective managers approvals for our excellent-value-for-money event. The guest-speaker list will be further updated tonight as well, so take a peek at nznog.org tomorrow for the latest. Cheers Mark, For the NZNOG Organising Committee.

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 31 Jan '06

31 Jan '06

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. It consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. Conference Our next conference is to be held in Wellington on 22-24 March, 2006. That's the week before the scheduled ICANN meeting. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more information. The most recent speakers to be confirmed are Mike Hughes, CTO of London Internet Exchange and Arron Scott of Cisco New Zealand. Other Meetings See http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ or http://wellington.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://nzix.net/ for details of exchanges in operation, and some information on others under construction. About This Mailing List This list has around 900 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search With site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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