February 2006 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

list.waikato.ac.nz Has Moved
by Donald Neal 11 Dec '24

11 Dec '24

NZNOG-People, I have just finished migrating all of the mailing lists held at The University of Waikato from one server to another. I don't have any reason to believe that anything's gone wrong, but please bear with me for today if it turns out that something has. - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal | Q: How many Aucklanders does it take to change Systems Programmer/Analyst | a light bulb? The University of Waikato | A: Pass me that candle and I'll tell you. Hamilton, New Zealand | --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature sens ors/servers for Auckland?
by Greg Clare 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

May not be exactly what you are after? However DSE have an Internet weather station at the Albany HQ. http://www.dse.gen.nz/public/webdata/weather.htm Regards Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2002 2:47 pm > To: NZNOG > Subject: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature > sensors/servers for Auckland? > > > Measuring the outside temperature, with geographic location given. > > -- > Juha > Take off every sig! > > - > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 31 Dec '07

31 Dec '07

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. Meetings Our next annual conference is to be hosted by the WAND group in Hamilton on February 2nd to 4th, 2005. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more information, including the Call For Presentations. Offers to present are due in by 22nd October, and all presenters should have had their acceptance confirmed by 31st October. Also see http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering Exchange and those connected there. See http://www.wix.net.nz/ for the Wellington Internet Exchange. About This Mailing List This list has slightly over 700 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins Donald Neal |Palmersdale: Are you in charge here? Technical Specialist |The Doctor: No, but I'm full of Operations Engineering | ideas. Integration & Services Division +----------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [nznog] Campbell Live tonight
by Regan Murphy 12 Mar '06

12 Mar '06

>>"Theresa, if the data caps are only present because of the cost of international data, why are there data caps in place on UBS connections? >Wholesale UBS connections only connect end-users with local ISPs, and are therefore 100% local and non-international. Can you explain?" >I didn't see the show, but was this question asked? I'm guessing not. >JSR Forgive me for my late revival of the thread... I finally saw the segment and came away with one question: When they decided our entry-level broadband plans (based on the new prices etc. etc.) compete on a world scale, did they include the cost of the phone line rental in their baselining? As far as I know you still cannot purchase an ADSL connection without first purchasing a telephone line rental which costs $42.20 (Auckland cost according to the latest prices I received from Telecom). These costs when added together represent a minimum cost of $72.15 for broadband (under xtra's new plans) which is more than the $1.50 per day cost that Teresa referred to on the Campbell Live segment. Is this dual-charging common in the other OECD countries - especially those with LLU? -- Regan

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NZNOG 06 - March 22-24 , Registrations online
by Simon Lyall 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

NZNOG 06 - Registrations now online. http://www.nznog.org The next conference of the New Zealand Network Operators' Group is to be held in Wellington, New Zealand between 22-24 March 2006. The conference is on the week before the ICANN meeting in Wellington so people can attend both events. NZNOG meetings provide opportunities for the exchange of technical information and discussion of issues relating to the operation and support of networked services, with particular emphasis on New Zealand. The conference has a strong technical focus with the aim of attracting a strong turnout of technical personnel. The conference fee is affordable to most to encourage greater participation This year we have a strong programme of New Zealand and overseas speakers on a wide range of topics over 3 days. The programme includes talks on VoIP, DNSSEC, IPv6, BGP, 10G Networks, Peering, QoS and Content-delivery. NZNOG 2006 registration fee is $250 for three days See http://www.nznog.org for more details. My apologies if you see multiple copies of this announcement. -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: aut-num: AS24385 as-name: NZRR-AS24385 descr: 3CIX admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS64646 accept AS64646 OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons import: from AS24385:AS-PRIVATE accept AS24385:RS-ROUTES:PeerAS import: from AS24385:AS-PUBLIC accept AS24385:RS-ROUTES:PeerAS export: to AS64646 announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385:AS-PRIVATE announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385:AS-PUBLIC announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060301 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: aut-num: AS24385 as-name: NZRR-AS24385 descr: 3CIX admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS64646 accept AS64646 OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons import: from AS24385:AS-PRIVATE accept AS24385:RS-ROUTES:PeerAS import: from AS24385:AS-PUBLIC accept AS24385:RS-ROUTES:PeerAS export: to AS64646 announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385:AS-PRIVATE announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES OR AS64646 AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385:AS-PUBLIC announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES OR AS64646 AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060301 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: aut-num: AS24385 as-name: NZRR-AS24385 descr: 3CIX admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS64646 accept AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons import: from AS24385:AS-PRIVATE accept AS24385:RS-ROUTES:PeerAS import: from AS24385:AS-PUBLIC accept AS24385:RS-ROUTES:PeerAS export: to AS64646 announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385:AS-PRIVATE announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385:AS-PUBLIC announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060130 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: aut-num: AS24385 as-name: NZRR-AS24385 descr: 3CIX admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS64646 accept AS64646 OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons import: from AS24385:AS-PRIVATE accept AS24385:RS-ROUTES:PeerAS import: from AS24385:AS-PUBLIC accept AS24385:RS-ROUTES:PeerAS export: to AS64646 announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385:AS-PRIVATE announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385:AS-PUBLIC announce AS24385:RS-ROUTES OR AS9439:RS-ROUTES AND NOT {0.0.0.0/0} AND NOT fltr-bogons notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060301 source: NZRR

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. It consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. Conference Our next conference is to be held in Wellington on 22-24 March, 2006. That's THIS MONTH. See http://www.nznog.org/ to register. Seating is as ever limited, and places are allocated on a "first come, first served" basis. Other Meetings See http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ or http://wellington.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.nzix.net/ for details of exchanges in operation, and some information on others under construction. About This Mailing List This list has around 900 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search With site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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Re: [nznog] Campbell Live tonight
by Peter Mott 25 Feb '06

25 Feb '06

>So, no it's not public domain (though publicly available, >albeit streaming only) and no the permission of the copyright >holder was not sought. It's just an alternative for those >without the means to stream. Above appears to be a modern day term for justified theft of somebody elses property. If I was TV3 I would be inviting you to an education programme down at the local court house. regards Peter Mott MOTT & ASSOCIATES Tel: +64 9 488 9352 Fax: +64 9 486 7017 -/-

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The Origins of "2006 NZ Census - Are you a New Zealander"
by Craig Whitmore 24 Feb '06

24 Feb '06

A little (lot) OT but.... Does anyone know the origins of this email. It seems its going around like wildfire at the moment. Yes I could ask the person who sent it to me who sent it to them and so on and so on.. its getting a little anoying now.. I have 10 copies already from just this morning. I guess its like the last Census where the email about being a Jedi was sent around. Subject: 2006 NZ Census - Are you a New Zealander? Did you know that New Zealand is pretty much the only place in the world that you can not actually be a New Zealander? Whenever you fill out a form or survey in New Zealand you can tick the box to say you are Maori, Tongan, Samoan, Australian, European (or NZ born of European Decent), Asian, etc but there is no box provided to say "Yes, I am a New Zealander and I am proud to be one" In Australia, you can be an Australian... In fact in Australia you can be a New Zealander. etc.. etc Thanks Craig

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