April 2006 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

Re: [nznog] Port 25
by James Clark 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

Donald/Simon, please kill this thread. Things have gotten personal for some reason that I don't care to understand. Alastair Johnson wrote: > Are you familiar with the term "FUD"? Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. By > making a statement "At a cost, I imagine", you start spreading > uncertainy and doubt. It most certainly isn't fact. Correct. It most certainly isn't fact. > That's one person's opinion, against many. Do a little research. I think you'll find it's many verses many. And yes, it was my opinion regarding a fairly hefty operation issue for New Zealand's NOCish type people. Well, my first post was. James Clark wrote: >> I'll repeat, keep it on the list. People don't get the hint around here? > The reply was sent off-list for a reason. You can be a decent person > and accept that, or you can prove yourself more of a plonker by not > doing so. I will heed your wise words... Goodnight gentlemen. I'm leaving it there, I've no interest in these non operational issues. I have better things to do, I'll go back to being silent. (I will not respond, so don't bother emailing me) http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/463c5922 -- Cheers, James Clark. p.s. I'm guessing someone will bite and send me another unsubscribe. Donald, does that constitute harrassment of some sort? The link doesn't seem to work: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/confirm/nznog/5d02...yeahright...8bdccfd And... Steve Kurzeja <steve(a)a.geek.nz> thanks for the "shut your pie-hole", it was rad.

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Re: [nznog] Port 25
by James Clark 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

Alastair Johnson wrote: > James Clark wrote: >> At a cost I imagine. CBF researching it. > > > Please don't be spreading FUD and turning the list into something less > than useful. > > Thanks. FUD? That would be me saying "You know they charge for it", I CFDed researching it - if I wanted to know I would. I don't. If you want to know, research it. The issue is Xtra are blocking port 25. That is bad and not good, all at the same time. I'll repeat, keep it on the list. -- Cheers, James Clark.

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Re: [nznog] Port 25
by jdmwoolley＠ihug.co.nz 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

> disabling their customer's service. Actually, subscribers have the option to "opt-out" so if you know what you're doing and WANT to use another smtp server/use port 25 for some reason you still can. A reasonable compromise between, "disabling their customer's service" and being proactive about security in my personal opinion. Not that blocking port 25 is going to be a magic bullet against all viruses/worms etc, but a start anyway.

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Re: [nznog] Port 25
by James Clark 18 Apr '06

18 Apr '06

Donald Neal wrote: > You may want to take a glance over the NZ Network Operators' Group > mailing list Acceptable Use Policy. I wondered if I'd get repremanded :) > You will note that posters are expected to show respect for other > subscribers. Have I offended someone? It was tounge in cheek ay. I've got good friends working at Telecom, they treat their employees well. That doesn't stop Telecom being part of the "evil empire". Oh, wait, Xtra is a seperate company. I forgot. If you want to punish me, which would just be sad, please just block me from posting to the list. -- Cheers, James Clark

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 17 Apr '06

17 Apr '06

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS24181 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by TheLoop - AS24181 members: 202.49.20.0/22^22-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: geoffs(a)nayland.school.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20051027 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS24181 descr: advertised to AS9439 by The Loop - AS24181 members: 202.49.16.0/21^21-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: swebb(a)connectorsystems.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060418 source: NZRR

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iiNet peering at APE and WIX via iHug
by Ian Henderson 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

Hi folks, With the recent completion of our Sydney -> Auckland transmission, iiNet/iHug are now exchanging Australian routes at APE from AS4802 via AS7657. WIX connectivity is coming RSN. :) If there are any problems, please get in touch with our NOC via the usual methods (noc(a)ihug.co.nz, +64 9 359 2708, +61 8 9213 1313, INOC-DBA 4802). Rgds, - I. -- Ian Henderson, CCIE #14721 Senior Network Engineer, iiNet Limited

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Re: [nznog] Downloading Fedora 4
by Craig Box 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

>> Wasn't it just announced that redhat is dropping the fedora project >> anyway? Not really surprising, but it happened a little quicker than >> I had thought it would. > > Nope, just the "Fedora Foundation", sorry I got too bored reading the > email announcement to pick up the details of what that meant, so I > can't really explain what that changes. I did note they said they > want to put more money and support into the project as it was vital > to their business model. Summary: * Gifting services ($1.5M/yr in bandwidth) to a non profit foundation formed to run Fedora would cost Red Hat too much in tax. * Keeping track of engineer time would be too costly, and most Fedora work is done by Red Hat engineers. * The requirements of a non-profit under US law is that a certain percentage of their income needs to be from community donations, which they are unlikely to meet. They are moving back to having a community advisory board. Not much really changes. WLUG maintain a list of mirrors of Linux in NZ that anyone can edit; http://www.wlug.org.nz/NewZealandLinuxMirrors. It's a bit out of date, but with all the people here who run a mirror updating their own little bit, can get back in shape in no time. Craig

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Re: [nznog] Downloading Fedora 4
by Donald Neal 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

> > Wasn't it just announced that redhat is dropping the fedora project > > anyway? Not really surprising, but it happened a little > quicker than I > > had thought it would. > > Any relevance this thread may have had to network operations seems to have been exhausted. It's time for it to go away. - Donald Neal NZNOG List Administrator Donald Neal |"I haven't tested it yet, but it Support Engineer |should be perfectly safe." NGN Operations |- Wallace Integration & Services Division +----------------------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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Downloading Fedora 4
by Gavin Legge 10 Apr '06

10 Apr '06

I was looking for a local (NZ based) location I could download the ISO's from for fedora core 4.. Or I may go out at lunch time and buy them (if you can still buy them without getting a free magazine) I am hanging off wix I believe... Well it's somewhere upstream anyway :) Cheers and thanks Gavin This electronic transmission and any documents accompanying this electronic transmission contain confidential information belonging to the sender. This information may be legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on or regarding the contents of this electronically transmitted information is strictly prohibited. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. MailScanner Supplied by ITS-HelpDesk. ext 4001 or email helpdesk(a)irl.cri.nz--

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Re: [nznog] iiNet peering at APE and WIX via iHug
by Simon Allard 07 Apr '06

07 Apr '06

> > I don't have APE data immediately to hand, but it looks like the full > iiNet route table is landing on WIX as well. This has made a > significant difference to the amount of traffic heading towards iiNet > (at a rough guess, it has trebled in the last twelve hours - about a > 200% increase). Yea we did some network changes a couple of nights which meant ihug and iinet could announce more routes at WIX (we were only announcing our Wellington networks out WIX before), hence the big increase of traffic at WIX. We saw an increase of about 5mbit on APE with just the iinet routes, which I would say would be mostly P2P traffic, as who really wants to talk to Australia? :P Simon Allard ihug Limited P +64 9 962 9827 M +64 21 456 412 E simon.allard(a)staff.ihug.co.nz

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