June 2007 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

telecom peering
by Anton Smith 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hello all, Has anybody seen or heard of any further development of this: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/EA57668828E0FEEFCC2572AC0070D766 Basically Telecom saying they would establish 29 regional points of interconnection, where providers could interconnect with them. The article mentions paying for a circuit into Telecom's network, with them reciprocating a circuit back (in the case of an ethernet interconnect, does this mean paying half each?). I am also wondering if any of these "regional points of interconnection" will be at the existing IXs, and in which case it doesn't seem that either Telecom or the other provider should have to pay anything for interconnect. What's the current word on the street? Has anybody engaged Telecom over this, or know what stage they are at? On another note, it seems funny that I am almost scared to post to nznog these days given the recent 'moderation by the people' ;). Regards, Anton

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Systems Administration and Monty Python
by Jamie Baddeley 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Right. Now that the subject matter has got your attention.. FX Networks (http://www.fx.net.nz/) has a position available for a junior/medium level systems administrator with some experience in looking after Debian Linux systems. Ideally they should have experience with Asterisk (or an enthusiasm for it), and a willingness to learn Cisco Networking technology. Perl hacking is also good. This person should not be afraid of customer interaction and working in a small tight team that has fun. Natural talent in dealing with the killer white rabbit of Caerbannog and the knights who say neh! is also a plus. I should also mention beer to keep it OT. Oh, and Wellington as well. Now I shall don my flame proof suit to deal with the slings and arrows of those who've taken it upon themselves to become defacto moderators of this fine list. For those of you moderately interested, drop me a line. thanks! jamie

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NZNOG 08 - Call for Participation and Papers
by Simon Lyall 24 Jun '07

24 Jun '07

NZNOG 08 - Call for Participation and Papers The next conference of the New Zealand Network Operators' Group is to be held in Dunedin, New Zealand between 23 January and 25 January 2008. Our host is WIC. NZNOG meetings provide opportunities for the exchange of technical information and discussion of issues relating to the operation and support of network services, with particular emphasis on New Zealand. The conference is low priced and has a strong technical focus with the aim and history of getting a strong turnout of technical personal from New Zealand Internet orientated companies. Conference Overview ------------------- NZNOG 2008 will consist of one day workshop and tutorial day followed by two days of conference presentations. There will also be opportunity for more informal and small lightening talks. These are typically around five minutes long and are organised closer to the actual conference. Important Dates --------------- Call for Papers opens: 25 June 2007 Deadline for speaker submissions: 6 August 2007 Responses to speaker submissions: 24 August 2007 Draft program published: 3 September 2007 Final program published: 1 November 2007 NZNOG 2008 Conference: 23 - 25 January 2008 SIG / Miniconf / Tutorials -------------------------- The first day of the conference will again be a workshop and tutorial day. It is usually run as one or more parallel 'interest group' streams and practical or interactive workshops of interest to Network Operators. This is a call for papers and activities for the first day of conference. Examples of past activities workshops include 'MPLS and fixed access networks for beginners', 'Mikrotik RouterOS Training', 'APNIC Internet Resource Management Essentials', and a System Administrators mini-conference which included talks on 'Using Debian packages for system administration' and '42 hosts in 1U: Using virtual machines'. Conference Presentations ------------------------ The main conference program for 2008 will be made up of two days with a single stream where possible. Presentations don't need to fit any particular fixed length and can be from 30 minutes to 3 hours in length. NZNOG conferences have traditionally spanned the entire operational spectrum, and then some. Proposals for conference presentations are invited for virtually any topic with a degree of relevance to the NZNOG community. Past years' talks have included the following: - Internet exchange operations - Global anycast networks and the building thereof - Peering, peering, and peering - Network security - 10GB ethernet operations - Advanced networks in NZ - Current Internet research in NZ - Wireless networking - QOS over carrier networks - Content distribution networks and media streaming - How we paid the construction guys 18 pints of beer and they gave us a free metro fibre network in Palmy North - Open Source VoIP Platform in Carrier Environments If you are interested in submitting a talk please fill out the questions at then end of this document and email them to prog08(a)nznog.org . Submission Guidelines --------------------- When considering a presentation or SIG, remember that the NZNOG audience is mainly comprised of technical network operators and engineers with a wide range of experience levels from beginners to multi-year experience. There is a strong orientation to offer core skills and basic knowledge in the SIGs and to address issues relevant to the day-to-day operations of ISPs and network operators in the conference sessions. The inclusion of a title, bio, topic, abstract, and slides with proposals is not compulsory but each will help us determine the quality of your proposal and increase the likelihood it will be accepted. Final slides are to be provided by 21 January 2008. Note: While the majority of speaking slots will be submitted by 6 August 2007, a limited number of slots may be available for presentations that are exceptionally timely, important, or of critical operational importance. The NZNOG conference is a TECHNICAL conference so marketing and commercial content is NOT allowed within the program. The program committee is charged with maintaining the technical standard of NZNOG conferences, and will therefore not accept inappropriate materials. It is expected that the presenter be a technical person and not a sales or marketing person. The audience is extremely technical and unforgiving, and expects that the speakers are themselves very knowledgeable. All sessions provide time for questions, so presenters should expect technical questions and be prepared to deliver insightful and technically deep responses. Funding and Support ------------------- NZNOG conferences are community run and funded events that try to keep the cost to attendees as low as possible so generally we are unable to pay the travel costs of speakers. There is a limited amount of funding available to international speakers. Conference presenters will not have to pay any registration fee for the day they are presenting. Discounts for SIG and lightning talk presenters may be available but are not automatic. Lightning talks --------------- Lightning talks are short talks/presentations that last no more than 10 minutes. This is a good opportunity to get your pet topic out there or perhaps to get some experience with presenting without having to go to a full talk. At NZNOG 2008 it is planned that there will be at least one hour long lightning talk session. Sponsors -------- There are opportunities remaining for organisations to sponsor various aspects of the NZNOG meeting. Please contact sponsorship(a)nznog.org for more information Contact ------- Website * http://2008.nznog.org General Enquiries * info(a)nznog.org Talks and Papers * prog08(a)nznog.org Talk Proposals -------------- Please send all talk proposals (including lightning talks) to prog08(a)nznog.org along with the requested information. Questions regarding talks can be sent to the same address. Sponsorship may be available for a limited number of overseas speakers to attend the conference, please indicate if you require assistance with travel and/or accommodation. Author's Full Name: Author's Email Address: Author's affiliation: Author's short biography: Title of Talk: Abstract: Length of talk: Please provide details if a version of this talk has previously been given: Will travel and accommodation assistance be required:

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Bytes, Gigabytes and "GB" on the bill
by Paul Adshead 23 Jun '07

23 Jun '07

Bearing in mind most switches/routers output traffic stats in Bytes and most bills go to customers in GigaBytes, which of the following options are being used by each of us to convert between the two when creating the bill? A, divide by 1024 * 1024 * 1024; B, divide by 1024 * 1024 * 1000; C, divide by 1024 * 1000 * 1000; D, divide by 1000 * 1000 * 1000. Option A gives what anyone associated with computers would expect. Whilst the later options give a larger GB figure (- that can appear on the bill and be charged more). What is in use out there by ISPs? According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte): "The usage of the word "gigabyte" is ambiguous, depending on the context. When referring to RAM sizes and file sizes, it traditionally has a binary definition, of 1024³ bytes (typically assimilated or approximated to 1000³, for convenience). For every other use, it means exactly 1000³ bytes. In order to address this confusion, currently all relevant standards bodies promote the use of the term "gibibyte" for the binary definition."

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[Fwd: [SixXS] gblon02 PoP open for Australian and New Zealand]
by Andy Linton 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

This may be of interest to some readers. andy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [SixXS] gblon02 PoP open for Australian and New Zealand Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:40:51 +0100 From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen(a)sixxs.net> Reply-To: info(a)sixxs.net Organization: SixXS To: info(a)sixxs.net Hi, We have been trying to get an ISP from Australian or New Zealand on board, unfortunately it seems that we have met little interest up to now. In case you do know an ISP who might be interested of course don't hesitate to let point us to them, or let the, contact us. From several people we understood that IPv6 connectivity that is provided in the AU/NZ region is quality wise not the best and that there is no real alternative. We recently opened a new PoP in London, UK. The owner of which (Goscomb Technologies) has permitted any and all endpoints to be connected to this PoP. As such, if you don't mind the latency, which will most likely be around the 300-350ms range at least, you can now request a tunnel to the gblon02 PoP and it will be approved. See below for an example traceroute, or test it yourself using http://www.sixxs.net/tools/traceroute/ This at least allows one to get connectivity and start using it. Spread the word and let your friends enjoy too. In case you don't have enough credits to request a tunnel&subnet, don't hesitate to give a shout and we'll make that in order. Greets, Jeroen -- traceroute to 60.241.43.12 (60.241.43.12), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ge-0-0-0-1235.rt0.lon4.goscomb.net (77.75.104.121) 6.347 ms 8.645 ms 0.457 ms 2 cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net (195.66.224.167) 0.958 ms 0.621 ms 0.748 ms 3 ge3-4.br01.lax04.pccwbtn.net (63.218.50.86) 145.981 ms 144.941 ms 145.831 ms 4 reach.ge2-16.br01.lax04.pccwbtn.net (63.218.51.82) 147.341 ms 145.926 ms 146.323 ms 5 i-1-2.wil-core02.net.reach.com (202.84.251.201) 148.638 ms 149.345 ms 148.358 ms 6 i-4-0.sydp-core02.net.reach.com (202.84.144.102) 308.198 ms 308.394 ms 308.181 ms 7 unknown.net.reach.com (134.159.126.134) 304.362 ms 303.994 ms 304.543 ms 8 202.92.64.140 (202.92.64.140) 304.016 ms 304.783 ms 304.452 ms 9 202.92.127.86 (202.92.127.86) 305.379 ms 305.236 ms 304.571 ms 10 bri-pow-ibo-zeu-1-pos-4-0.tpgi.com.au (202.7.162.241) 318.572 ms 316.667 ms 317.729 ms 11 bri-nxg-ibo-zeu-1-pos2-2.tpgi.com.au (202.7.162.178) 318.023 ms 318.791 ms 318.606 ms 12 bri-nxg-ibo-nik-1-ge-0-1.tpgi.com.au (220.245.180.205) 316.950 ms 317.960 ms 317.714 ms 13 60-241-43-12.static.tpgi.com.au (60.241.43.12) 334.618 ms 333.790 ms 334.346 ms -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Jeroen Massar / http://unfix.org/~jeroen/ iHUEARECADUFAkZ3+QMuFIAAAAAAFQAQcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JnamVy b2VuQHVuZml4Lm9yZwAKCRApqihSMz58I1TfAJ9grjh3/f2SA4RyEGim+xJboM4L tACgiA7ZDsod680zORKjd1W8QTpox48= =TohL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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ihug DNS problems?
by bigalownz 16 Jun '07

16 Jun '07

I think its now 203.109.129.67

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Soekris ?
by Craig Spiers 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

Hi guys, Anyone out there got a soekris 4521 (with pcmcia slots) for sale? The 4801 model is commonly used by citylink for route servers - I have a couple of these I would be willing to swap for a 4521 with pcmcia if anyone is interested :) Cheers

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(no subject)
by mark10＠compass.net.nz 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Perfect. Thanks Jamie. -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Baddeley [mailto:jamie.baddeley(a)vpc.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2007 9:33 p.m. To: Mark Frater Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Bill Nortons "Asia Pacific Peering Ecosystems" Hi Mark, It doesn't look like it's in the NZNOG archive, but I dug through mine. See attached. It looks like it's early draft but hopefully it should give you what you need. Cheers jamie On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 17:09 +1200, mark10(a)compass.net.nz wrote: > Does anyone have a copy of Bill Nortons presentation titled "Asia > Pacific Peering Ecosystems" from NZNOG 2005 in Hamilton? > > I had a look at http://2005.nznog.org/ but the cupboard was bare. > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Bill Nortons "Asia Pacific Peering Ecosystems"
by mark10＠compass.net.nz 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Does anyone have a copy of Bill Nortons presentation titled "Asia Pacific Peering Ecosystems" from NZNOG 2005 in Hamilton? I had a look at http://2005.nznog.org/ but the cupboard was bare. Mark

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[Fwd: Re: Bill Norton’s "Asia Pacific Peering Ecosystems"]
by Gerard Creamer 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

2004 and 2005 are now up. http://2004.nznog.org/ http://2005.nznog.org/ Just the conference sites for now - we'll get the galleries etc up as time allows. If you find anything busted please email details to info at nznog.org Cheers, Gerard mark10(a)compass.net.nz wrote: > Does anyone have a copy of Bill Norton’s presentation titled "Asia Pacific > Peering Ecosystems" from NZNOG 2005 in Hamilton? > > I had a look at http://2005.nznog.org/ but the cupboard was bare. > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >

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