August 2007 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

list.waikato.ac.nz Has Moved
by Donald Neal 11 Dec '24

11 Dec '24

NZNOG-People, I have just finished migrating all of the mailing lists held at The University of Waikato from one server to another. I don't have any reason to believe that anything's gone wrong, but please bear with me for today if it turns out that something has. - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal | Q: How many Aucklanders does it take to change Systems Programmer/Analyst | a light bulb? The University of Waikato | A: Pass me that candle and I'll tell you. Hamilton, New Zealand | --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature sens ors/servers for Auckland?
by Greg Clare 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

May not be exactly what you are after? However DSE have an Internet weather station at the Albany HQ. http://www.dse.gen.nz/public/webdata/weather.htm Regards Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2002 2:47 pm > To: NZNOG > Subject: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature > sensors/servers for Auckland? > > > Measuring the outside temperature, with geographic location given. > > -- > Juha > Take off every sig! > > - > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Charging for IPv6
by Philip D'Ath 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

Initially those transit providers and ISPs that do offer IPv6 transit will be able to charge for this service as it will be a premium value add. However I can't see this business model being able to last for more than 6 years (through to 2012), and possibly only three years. After this point in time I expect IPv6 deployment will be standard, and will no longer be a premium service offering - it will be the standard offering, like IPv4 is today. Once IPv4 has become exhausted and you can't actually give a customer an IPv4 address then you definitely wont be able to charge more for IPv6 - otherwise the customer will walk. So do providers start implementing slowly now, and recoup some of their investment while they can, or wait till they are forced to do the upgrades and are not able to recoup any of their "new" investment. Rhetorical question.

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 31 Dec '07

31 Dec '07

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. Meetings Our next annual conference is to be hosted by the WAND group in Hamilton on February 2nd to 4th, 2005. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more information, including the Call For Presentations. Offers to present are due in by 22nd October, and all presenters should have had their acceptance confirmed by 31st October. Also see http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering Exchange and those connected there. See http://www.wix.net.nz/ for the Wellington Internet Exchange. About This Mailing List This list has slightly over 700 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins Donald Neal |Palmersdale: Are you in charge here? Technical Specialist |The Doctor: No, but I'm full of Operations Engineering | ideas. Integration & Services Division +----------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Continued problems with xtra email
by Michael J. Densem 03 Oct '07

03 Oct '07

Can anyone help? Since Xtra changed over its email service to Yahoo! I have had problems. I have a server (outside of the Xtra network) that handles email for around 50 domains. Many of these are collection points that forward to client recipients with @xtra.co.nz addresses. Due to the large volume of email traffic sending to the xtra.co.nz domain, the Yahoo servers are now blocking/grey-listing my server. I have filled out the forms on the Yahoo website and have spoken to Xtra. However, I have had no response from Yahoo and Xtra doesn't seem to understand or appreciate the issue. Is anyone else in a similar situation? Had similar issues? Does anyone know a solution? The response from the Yahoo servers is '451 Message temporarily deferred' (meaning Yahoo first denies the initial attempt and waits for a re-try). However, none of the re-tries is accepted and the message eventually expires. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers, Mike Densem mike(a)massive.co.nz

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Recent Xtra email changes
by Glen Eustace 28 Aug '07

28 Aug '07

We have just spent the last few days trying to solve an email issue, which I am starting to think might be related to the whole yahoo changes as the time scale is the same. One of our clients has their ADSL through Xtra but all their other services through us. Starting on Monday, they haven't been able to send any email, via smtp.xtra.co.nz. We are presuming, that their outbound addresses have contained their domain for which Xtra is neither the registrar nor the MX of. Debugging the issue has been particularly difficult as the customer is not very computer literate and English is not their natural language. We are unable to complete the diagnosis of the issue as the client has now taken Xtra's advice ( Xtra continually maintained that we were the problem - kind of difficult to see when the mail was coming nowhere near us ) and have now transferred their domain to Xtra. We had a similiar situation a while back with two client who were using Paradise in a similiar way. There issue was more related to not being able to have mailboxes on Paradise's servers anymore because Paradise didn't host the domain. The solution was for us to provide the mailboxes instead. I would be interested if this really is an isolated case, or has Xtra tightened up on their inbound mail policy for their own customers. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Glen and Rosanne Eustace GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd. P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 4446. Ph: +64 6 357 8168, Fax +64 6 357 8165, Mob: +64 21 424 015 http://www.godzone.net.nz "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations."

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Re: [nznog] Auckland Datacentres
by Skeeve Stevens 27 Aug '07

27 Aug '07

Hey all, Thanks for your responses. I literally have too many to respond to. ICONZ has been strongly recommended and we shall be talking to them in the first instance. -- Skeeve Stevens, RHCE eintellego, General Manager skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve -- NOC, NOC, who's there? From: Skeeve Stevens [mailto:skeeve(a)eintellego.net] Sent: Monday, 27 August 2007 4:11 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Auckland Datacentres Hey guys, I'm looking for a DC in Auckland. I know nothing about the NZ internet carrier scene - such as who has connectivity where and so on. But I'm looking for a DC with wired access to APE and cross-connect ability to TNZ. A neutral DC would be nice, but as I said, I don't know your scene over there and if these even exist. Is there anything else I should know? .Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, RHCE eintellego, General Manager skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve -- NOC, NOC, who's there?

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Why is xtra.mail in AU?
by Don Gould 26 Aug '07

26 Aug '07

Doing some traceroutes to the xtra mail servers, it would appear they've moved all their mail handling to AU. Does anyone have any idea why? It would seem nuts to use international capacity to move all the mail from NZ --> AU --> NZ. Or am I (and others on some other lists) just missing something? Cheers Don

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Auckland Datacentres
by Skeeve Stevens 26 Aug '07

26 Aug '07

Hey guys, I'm looking for a DC in Auckland. I know nothing about the NZ internet carrier scene - such as who has connectivity where and so on. But I'm looking for a DC with wired access to APE and cross-connect ability to TNZ. A neutral DC would be nice, but as I said, I don't know your scene over there and if these even exist. Is there anything else I should know? .Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, RHCE eintellego, General Manager skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve -- NOC, NOC, who's there?

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 23 Aug '07

23 Aug '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9439 by WorldxChange Communications LTD - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.240.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: lsmith(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060120 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9439 by WorldxChange Communications Ltd - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.204.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070824 source: NZRR --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9560 by WorldxChange Communications LTD - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.240.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: lsmith(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060120 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9560 by WorldxChange Communications Ltd - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.204.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070824 source: NZRR

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