September 2007 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

list.waikato.ac.nz Has Moved
by Donald Neal 12 Dec '24

12 Dec '24

NZNOG-People, I have just finished migrating all of the mailing lists held at The University of Waikato from one server to another. I don't have any reason to believe that anything's gone wrong, but please bear with me for today if it turns out that something has. - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal | Q: How many Aucklanders does it take to change Systems Programmer/Analyst | a light bulb? The University of Waikato | A: Pass me that candle and I'll tell you. Hamilton, New Zealand | --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature sens ors/servers for Auckland?
by Greg Clare 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

May not be exactly what you are after? However DSE have an Internet weather station at the Albany HQ. http://www.dse.gen.nz/public/webdata/weather.htm Regards Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2002 2:47 pm > To: NZNOG > Subject: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature > sensors/servers for Auckland? > > > Measuring the outside temperature, with geographic location given. > > -- > Juha > Take off every sig! > > - > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Charging for IPv6
by Philip D'Ath 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

Initially those transit providers and ISPs that do offer IPv6 transit will be able to charge for this service as it will be a premium value add. However I can't see this business model being able to last for more than 6 years (through to 2012), and possibly only three years. After this point in time I expect IPv6 deployment will be standard, and will no longer be a premium service offering - it will be the standard offering, like IPv4 is today. Once IPv4 has become exhausted and you can't actually give a customer an IPv4 address then you definitely wont be able to charge more for IPv6 - otherwise the customer will walk. So do providers start implementing slowly now, and recoup some of their investment while they can, or wait till they are forced to do the upgrades and are not able to recoup any of their "new" investment. Rhetorical question.

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 01 Jan '08

01 Jan '08

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. Meetings Our next annual conference is to be hosted by the WAND group in Hamilton on February 2nd to 4th, 2005. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more information, including the Call For Presentations. Offers to present are due in by 22nd October, and all presenters should have had their acceptance confirmed by 31st October. Also see http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering Exchange and those connected there. See http://www.wix.net.nz/ for the Wellington Internet Exchange. About This Mailing List This list has slightly over 700 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins Donald Neal |Palmersdale: Are you in charge here? Technical Specialist |The Doctor: No, but I'm full of Operations Engineering | ideas. Integration & Services Division +----------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Admin: More List problems.
by Simon Lyall 06 Oct '07

06 Oct '07

FYI around 35 people were unsubscribed from the NZNOG list around lunchtime Friday. This is due to Waikato mail servers rejecting emails being sent to some @list.waikato.ac.nz addresses that are being used by mailman [1] which causes problems with sites that use SMTP callback to check sending addresses. They rejected the emails to mailman unsubscribed the addresses. Most of the addresses removed were hosted by Orcon. If anyone sees Colin Palmer around can they nudge him ( "nudge" means "/msg him" NOT "Wake him up at 1am" ) to have a look at this since I don't have his contact details. Once things are fixed I'll undisable everybody [2] . [1] $ telecom mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz smtp Trying 130.217.76.2... Connected to mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz ESMTP Symantec Mail Security helo fff 250 mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz mail from:<simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz> 250 Ok rcpt to:<nznog-bounces+john=example.net(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> 550 <nznog-bounces+john=example.net(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table [2] I've up'd the "bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings" number from 5 to 50 which I think is the right one, email me directly if I'm wrong. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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Continued problems with xtra email
by Michael J. Densem 04 Oct '07

04 Oct '07

Can anyone help? Since Xtra changed over its email service to Yahoo! I have had problems. I have a server (outside of the Xtra network) that handles email for around 50 domains. Many of these are collection points that forward to client recipients with @xtra.co.nz addresses. Due to the large volume of email traffic sending to the xtra.co.nz domain, the Yahoo servers are now blocking/grey-listing my server. I have filled out the forms on the Yahoo website and have spoken to Xtra. However, I have had no response from Yahoo and Xtra doesn't seem to understand or appreciate the issue. Is anyone else in a similar situation? Had similar issues? Does anyone know a solution? The response from the Yahoo servers is '451 Message temporarily deferred' (meaning Yahoo first denies the initial attempt and waits for a re-try). However, none of the re-tries is accepted and the message eventually expires. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers, Mike Densem mike(a)massive.co.nz

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186/8 and 187/8 allocated to LACNIC
by Leo Vegoda 01 Oct '07

01 Oct '07

Hi, The IANA IPv4 registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of two /8 IPv4 blocks to LACNIC in September 2007: 186/8 and 187/8. You can find the IANA IPv4 registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space Please update your filters as appropriate. Regards, -- Leo Vegoda Manager, Number Resources - IANA

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 30 Sep '07

30 Sep '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS24006 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Knossos Networks Ltd - AS24006 members: 202.160.48.0/20^20-29, 161.29.192.160/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)knossos.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070912 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS24006 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Knossos Networks Ltd - AS24006 members: 202.160.48.0/20^20-29, 161.29.254.0/23^23-29, 202.53.189.0/28^28-29, 161.29.192.160/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)knossos.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071001 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 57, Issue 9
by Paul Lester 30 Sep '07

30 Sep '07

Unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] Sent: Saturday, 29 September 2007 12:00 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: NZNOG Digest, Vol 57, Issue 9 Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz You can reach the person managing the list at nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. NZRR Route Registry Update (NZRR Database Notifications) 2. Admin: More List problems. (Simon Lyall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:04:28 +1200 From: NZRR Database Notifications <rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net> Subject: [nznog] NZRR Route Registry Update To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Message-ID: <E1Ib3LI-0000l2-N1(a)totti.citylink.co.nz> Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Ltd - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 203.99.0.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.27.8.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.167.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.174.160.0/24^24-29, 203.86.200.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.1.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29, 210.55.180.128/26^26-29, 210.55.193.64/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: ricky.tipper(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070920 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Ltd - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 121.98.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 203.99.0.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.167.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.174.160.0/24^24-29, 203.86.200.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.1.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29, 210.55.180.128/26^26-29, 210.55.193.64/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: ricky.tipper(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070928 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:16:42 +1200 (NZST) From: Simon Lyall <simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz> Subject: [nznog] Admin: More List problems. To: nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.56.0709282248020.2085(a)localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII FYI around 35 people were unsubscribed from the NZNOG list around lunchtime Friday. This is due to Waikato mail servers rejecting emails being sent to some @list.waikato.ac.nz addresses that are being used by mailman [1] which causes problems with sites that use SMTP callback to check sending addresses. They rejected the emails to mailman unsubscribed the addresses. Most of the addresses removed were hosted by Orcon. If anyone sees Colin Palmer around can they nudge him ( "nudge" means "/msg him" NOT "Wake him up at 1am" ) to have a look at this since I don't have his contact details. Once things are fixed I'll undisable everybody [2] . [1] $ telecom mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz smtp Trying 130.217.76.2... Connected to mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz ESMTP Symantec Mail Security helo fff 250 mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz mail from:<simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz> 250 Ok rcpt to:<nznog-bounces+john=example.net(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> 550 <nznog-bounces+john=example.net(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table [2] I've up'd the "bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings" number from 5 to 50 which I think is the right one, email me directly if I'm wrong. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog End of NZNOG Digest, Vol 57, Issue 9 ************************************

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 28 Sep '07

28 Sep '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Ltd - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 203.99.0.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.27.8.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.167.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.174.160.0/24^24-29, 203.86.200.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.1.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29, 210.55.180.128/26^26-29, 210.55.193.64/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: ricky.tipper(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070920 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Ltd - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 121.98.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 203.99.0.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.167.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.174.160.0/24^24-29, 203.86.200.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.1.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29, 210.55.180.128/26^26-29, 210.55.193.64/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: ricky.tipper(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070928 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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