April 2008 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

list.waikato.ac.nz Has Moved
by Donald Neal 12 Dec '24

12 Dec '24

NZNOG-People, I have just finished migrating all of the mailing lists held at The University of Waikato from one server to another. I don't have any reason to believe that anything's gone wrong, but please bear with me for today if it turns out that something has. - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal | Q: How many Aucklanders does it take to change Systems Programmer/Analyst | a light bulb? The University of Waikato | A: Pass me that candle and I'll tell you. Hamilton, New Zealand | --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature sens ors/servers for Auckland?
by Greg Clare 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

May not be exactly what you are after? However DSE have an Internet weather station at the Albany HQ. http://www.dse.gen.nz/public/webdata/weather.htm Regards Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2002 2:47 pm > To: NZNOG > Subject: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature > sensors/servers for Auckland? > > > Measuring the outside temperature, with geographic location given. > > -- > Juha > Take off every sig! > > - > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Charging for IPv6
by Philip D'Ath 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

Initially those transit providers and ISPs that do offer IPv6 transit will be able to charge for this service as it will be a premium value add. However I can't see this business model being able to last for more than 6 years (through to 2012), and possibly only three years. After this point in time I expect IPv6 deployment will be standard, and will no longer be a premium service offering - it will be the standard offering, like IPv4 is today. Once IPv4 has become exhausted and you can't actually give a customer an IPv4 address then you definitely wont be able to charge more for IPv6 - otherwise the customer will walk. So do providers start implementing slowly now, and recoup some of their investment while they can, or wait till they are forced to do the upgrades and are not able to recoup any of their "new" investment. Rhetorical question.

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XTRA(yahoo) automatically tagging legitimate mail as Spam
by Michael Hutchinson 28 May '08

28 May '08

Hi All, We are currently having an issue with one of our Exchange servers sending email to user mailboxes on Xtra. We have tracked the email leaving the server, and have EventID's from logs on the Exchange server telling us that delivery is successful. However, when we log into any of the Xtra mail accounts, we can see the emails are automatically being put into the Spam folder of those accounts. There is nothing about the emails to suggest they are spam, and the final received headers say nothing about Spam, let alone even that it has been checked for Spam. As far as I can see it is only affecting one of our domains. We have several other domains with exchange servers that deliver to Xtra mailboxes just fine. I have contacted support at Xtra about this, as well as Ted Grenfell (who got back to me straight away) and we're trying to collate enough data to attack the problem. Is anyone else having this issue? (It would be nice to know that we're not the only ones being picked on by Yahoo.) Cheers, Michael Hutchinson Manux Solutions Ltd

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. It consists of the subscribers to this mailing list. The group is intended to facilitate discussion among operators of networks in New Zealand on matters relevant to network operators as described in the list's Acceptable Use Policy. That policy appears later in this posting. Conference We hold New Zealand's only technical networking conference. See http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=4 for details of conferences from 2004 to 2008. Work is now under way in preparation for the next conference, to be held in the North Island in early 2009. Other Meetings See http://thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland, Hamilton or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=6 for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.nzix.net/ for details of exchanges in operation. About This Mailing List This list has between 900 and 1000 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of APN Online, Citylink, and The University of Waikato. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ . Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins -- Donald Neal | "Careful design and strict discipline are Research Officer | necessary to prevent this sort of mess WAND | from escaping the development laboratory The University of Waikato | and infesting the production environment." | - D. Russell

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Kiwicon 2k8 - Call For Papers
by Simon Howard 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

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[About] Kiwicon2k8 is intended to be an informal conference, drawing on the wider security community of Australia and New Zealand. It will be held in Wellington, New Zealand, on the weekend of the 27th and 28th of September, 2008. Kiwicon's focus is on sharing information; ideas, code, and good whisky, in a rabelaisan carnival of security, nerdery, and *nix beards. Last year, the inaugural Kiwicon ended up being kind of a big deal: highlights included tmasky's mighty Crackstation, the debut of Beau Butler as an "ethical hacker" making Microsoft "look like turkeys", and of course the Kiwicon Hax0r Quiz, with the winner taking the grand prize of An Illustrated Guide to the Commoner Skin Diseases. Hope it came in handy for the post-con diagnosis phase, dude. This year, Kiwicon's own Bogan is already making anti-virus vendors quake in their little signature-laden booties at Defcon's Race to Zero, and the cauldron of 0h-0h-0hday in Brett Moore's secret Insomnia lair is bubbling over with pernicious brew. If you missed last Kiwicon (not "professional enough"? couldn't convince your boss it wasn't a hoax?) then find one of the 230+ people who were there and ask them if they're just-not-gonna-bother this year. [Venue] Our hosts for the weekend will, once again, be Victoria University of Wellington. If you have any memory of last year's Kiwicon, then it'll look disturbingly familiar. The campus has the advantage of being close to the center of the city and its' various amenities. This includes cheap accommodation, good coffee, and, more importantly, several good pubs serving good, non-Australian, beer. [Costs] Kiwicon2k8 is a non-profit, non-commercial, non-corporate-funded event. Attendance for the entire weekend will cost $50 for employed individuals (self-employed and salaried). There is a discounted rate of $30 for students and the unemployed. GST receipts can be issued upon request. If your management can't be convinced of the value of something that only costs $50, we're happy to issue you with some kind of personalised limited edition invitation in crayon, glitter pen, and macaroni (spray-painted gold for that luxe look) for the low enterprise-only price of $500. [Topics] Suggested topics include but are not limited to: - Crowd Control Techniques and Panic Modeling - Information Warfare / Industrial Espionage - Malware (Viruses, Spam, Phishing, Botnets) - Cellular Networks (GSM,GPRS,CDMA,3G,4G) - Application Security, Testing, Fuzzing - Government Spy Networks / Surveillance - Nanotechnology / Quantum Computing - Access Control and Authentication - Wireless / Bluetooth / Infrared - Social Engineering / Trolling - Breaking EAL Certified Kit - Forensics / Antiforensics - Banking / ATMs / Carding - Exploitation Techniques - Layer 1/2/3 Nastiness - Reverse Engineering - Phreaking / VoIP - Virtualisation - Web Security - Lockpicking - Biometrics - Hypnosis - Crypto - Ohday - 23 There is no pre-determined talk length but we ask that speakers limit their presentation to an hour, including some question time. Since Kiwicon is a non-profit organisation, there is no funding available for travel and/or accomodation, even for IT rockstars. However, if your talk is accepted, a formal letter will be provided for employer leverage, and almost certainly, unless you're a complete jackoff, people will try and buy you beer. To submit a presentation to Kiwicon2k8, send an email to cfp(a)kiwicon.org with the following information: Name or Handle: Country of Residence: Employer (if applicable): Presentation Title: Presentation Length: Presentation Synopsis: Brief Bio: [CFP Submissions] Please submit your CFP by email to cfp(a)kiwicon.org, no later than 8:47pm NZST, Sunday 17th August 2008. There will be two rounds of selection, with the first half of the talks chosen in early August, so submit early for a better chance of acceptance. [Contacts & Further Information] Email us: kiwicon(a)kiwicon.org Check the site: http://www.kiwicon.org/ Drop by silc: silc.isig.org.nz:2706/kiwicon Join the list: kiwicon-subscribe(a)lists.isig.org.nz Greetz and thanks to all who helped make Kiwicon 2k7 the awesomeness it was, we'll see you fuckers again this year. Thick, meaty props to Pipes for stepping up and making 2k7 happen. We would miss you, but Sharrow's just as tall, and better looking. Sorry pal. -- The Kiwicon Crüe, 2k8 - Bogan, Metlstorm & Sharrow. \m/ [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Hana

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Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland
by Mark Newton 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Hi. I'm after some information about carrier-neutral colocation in the Auckland area in New Zealand. I'd be looking at installing a rack worth of equipment, consuming a couple of kW of power at most. It'd need to be in a facility that's well- serviced by TNZ, TelstraClear or Vector Communications; But preferably able to interconnect with arbitrary other carriers so that we can provide our Australian business/corporate/wholesale customers with IP and MPLS access to their NZ offices (or vice versa) with minimal obstacles. Nearby availability of peering exchanges would be a definite plus. AS4739 has a fairly promiscuous peering policy, and we prefer bilateral peering relationships outside Australia, but MPLA works for us too if it's easy. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the New Zealand "scene". If anyone feels inspired to send me some off-list information or advice, I'd appreciate it. Regards, - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton(a)internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton(a)atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82282999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223

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Re: [nznog] Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland (MRN)
by Marc Richard Nienkemper 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Hi Mark, I've sent you a message off-list. Cheers, MRN -----Original Message----- From: nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:00 PM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: NZNOG Digest, Vol 64, Issue 11 Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz You can reach the person managing the list at nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland (Mark Newton) 2. Re: Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland (Jonathan Brewer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:14:42 +0930 From: Mark Newton <newton(a)internode.com.au> Subject: [nznog] Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Message-ID: <177FDD80-E69B-4CCD-BA6E-BC2A532113F5(a)internode.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi. I'm after some information about carrier-neutral colocation in the Auckland area in New Zealand. I'd be looking at installing a rack worth of equipment, consuming a couple of kW of power at most. It'd need to be in a facility that's well- serviced by TNZ, TelstraClear or Vector Communications; But preferably able to interconnect with arbitrary other carriers so that we can provide our Australian business/corporate/wholesale customers with IP and MPLS access to their NZ offices (or vice versa) with minimal obstacles. Nearby availability of peering exchanges would be a definite plus. AS4739 has a fairly promiscuous peering policy, and we prefer bilateral peering relationships outside Australia, but MPLA works for us too if it's easy. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the New Zealand "scene". If anyone feels inspired to send me some off-list information or advice, I'd appreciate it. Regards, - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton(a)internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton(a)atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82282999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:29:41 +1200 From: "Jonathan Brewer" <jon.brewer(a)araneo.net.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland To: <NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <20080423192935.AB9153E0010(a)mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Mark, It's hard to beat Sky Tower if you want a facility that's well serviced by New Zealand telecommunications providers. All the providers are there in some way or another. APE and F-Root servers are there. The tower managers, JDA, are not related to any of the carriers, so they're as neutral as you can get. Drawbacks are fairly limited and relatively expensive floor space and cooling options. Good for routers and switches, maybe not so good for blade servers or high-density, high heat applications. Cheers, Jon www.araneo.net.nz -----Original Message----- From: Mark Newton [mailto:newton(a)internode.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 11:45 p.m. To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland Hi. I'm after some information about carrier-neutral colocation in the Auckland area in New Zealand. I'd be looking at installing a rack worth of equipment, consuming a couple of kW of power at most. It'd need to be in a facility that's well- serviced by TNZ, TelstraClear or Vector Communications; But preferably able to interconnect with arbitrary other carriers so that we can provide our Australian business/corporate/wholesale customers with IP and MPLS access to their NZ offices (or vice versa) with minimal obstacles. Nearby availability of peering exchanges would be a definite plus. AS4739 has a fairly promiscuous peering policy, and we prefer bilateral peering relationships outside Australia, but MPLA works for us too if it's easy. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the New Zealand "scene". If anyone feels inspired to send me some off-list information or advice, I'd appreciate it. Regards, - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton(a)internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton(a)atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82282999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog End of NZNOG Digest, Vol 64, Issue 11 *************************************

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Contracts and FX Networks
by Andrew Hooper 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

I would be interested to know if any of the small operators have successfully negotiated a contract with FX Networks and how was your experience from the negotiation to implementation? Andrew Hooper www.bushwireless.com <http://www.bushwireless.com/> +64 9 533-6470 +64 21 212-9200 broadband for those hard to reach places. <skype:bushwireless?call> My status <http://www.skype.com/go/download> Get Skype and call me for free.

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Invitation to APNIC 26
by Elly Tawhai 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Hi NZNOG Community, For those who do not know the next APNIC meeting will be held in Christchurch, New Zealand on 25-29 August 2008. ________________________________________________________________________ Why your organisation should be represented at APNIC 26? ________________________________________________________________________ It is our pleasure to invite your organisation to attend the APNIC 26 meeting a week of workshops, tutorials, policy and operational discussions, and social events. Attending APNIC 26 will enable your organisation to: - Have your say on policy proposals that directly affect the way your organisation accesses Internet number resources; or, you can present your own proposals - Hear world-class speakers discuss cutting edge Internet resource management research such as IPv6 transition and network security - Learn about best practice in Internet resource management to make your business more efficient and profitable - Make valuable contacts for building business relationships When: 25-29 August 2008 Venue: Christchurch Convention Centre, Christchurch, New Zealand For more information about APNIC 26 and how you can participate, please see: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/26 Hope to see you there! Kind regards, Elly ________________________________________________________________________ Elly Tawhai email: hostmaster(a)apnic.net Senior Internet Resource Analyst, APNIC sip: hostmaster(a)voip.apnic.net http://www.apnic.net/helpdesk phone: +61 7 3858 3188 fax: +61 7 3858 3199 ________________________________________________________________________

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