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list.waikato.ac.nz Has Moved
by Donald Neal 11 Dec '24

11 Dec '24

NZNOG-People, I have just finished migrating all of the mailing lists held at The University of Waikato from one server to another. I don't have any reason to believe that anything's gone wrong, but please bear with me for today if it turns out that something has. - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal | Q: How many Aucklanders does it take to change Systems Programmer/Analyst | a light bulb? The University of Waikato | A: Pass me that candle and I'll tell you. Hamilton, New Zealand | --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature sens ors/servers for Auckland?
by Greg Clare 18 Aug '21

18 Aug '21

May not be exactly what you are after? However DSE have an Internet weather station at the Albany HQ. http://www.dse.gen.nz/public/webdata/weather.htm Regards Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2002 2:47 pm > To: NZNOG > Subject: Sort of OT: are there any "Internet enabled" temperature > sensors/servers for Auckland? > > > Measuring the outside temperature, with geographic location given. > > -- > Juha > Take off every sig! > > - > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Don't quite get this?
by Bruce Kingsbury 09 Feb '12

09 Feb '12

Re: Paul Brislen: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10748747 ] " The ISP doesn't. It's up to the rights holder to determine that you've downloaded that file called The Terminator and that it's a movie and that they have the rights to it and that you haven't got the rights to download it. if they can't demonstrate that to the ISP (which will then check its records to determine if that file was downloaded and if so at what time and by whom) then the ISP rejects the claim." I don't quite get this. I know the ISP will have records of who had what IP address and perhaps even fairly detailed logs of how much throughput over the day, but if they get told that whatever IP at 8:08:45 pm was observed downloading The Terminator, are any of the the ISP's able to refute that? Do they even log what kind of traffic I was doing at the time? Do they keep track of http vs. torrent vs. skype traffic? Sorry to ask here, but it seemed like the best place to get an informed answer. Also, beer...

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NZNOG is coming to Christchurch
by Sam Sargeant 20 Dec '11

20 Dec '11

The New Zealand Network Operators Group (NZNOG) is holding their annual conference and training workshops in the Garden City of Christchurch at the end of January 2012. The conference will run across the 26th and 27th of January and as always will include leading speakers in the field of Internet operations from New Zealand and much farther afield. Training workshops and tutorials will precede the conference and run from the 23rd to the 25th of January. The annual conference, workshops and tutorials are a once a year chance for individuals and organisations involved in Internet operations to meet and share the latest in Internet operations, technology practices and receive high quality training. The event is unique in New Zealand and attracts technical, skilled individuals with a genuine interest in Internet operations and Internetworking technologies. The event will be held at the Copthorne Commodore near Christchurch Airport. Accommodation is available on site as well as in the immediate area. Registrations for the event will open early December. Speakers will be confirmed early December and a full programme issued mid December. The cost of attendance has been confirmed at $250, students receive a 20% discount. For further information: Subscribe to the NZNOG mailing list: http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=5 Visit the conference website: http://2012.nznog.org.nz Follow us on Twitter: @NZNOG Copy of this text can also be found at: http://2012.nznog.org/cms_display.php?sn=20&st=1

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Proxy Servers...
by Steve Holdoway 27 Nov '11

27 Nov '11

Sorry if this is OT but my thinking is that if you don't know, then it's going to be a hard job finding one that does. For my broadband I have a boring old iHug - now Voda - ADSL connection. A lot of my work involves monitoring and managing remote websites. (Probably) since the new government legislation came into effect, my guess is that I am now behind a transparent proxy for web traffic. Now, I'm not *too* bothered by that ( well, except when it falls to pieces like one evening last week! ), but in final testing I often override DNS with a local host entry. This no longer works, and my SP sends me to the production one every time. This is a major problem. Does anyone know... a) whether this can be disabled? b) whether there is another provider out there who doesn't do this? I've got plenty of servers worldwide that I can route all my traffic through in an encrypted manner which would almost certainly circumvent this, but I shudder to think what can of worms that would open! Any suggestions?? Cheers, Steve -- Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MNZCS <steve(a)greengecko.co.nz> http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: steve(a)greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa

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New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The NZNOG mailing list exists to facilitate discussion among operators of networks in New Zealand on matters relevant to network operators as described in the list's Acceptable Use Policy. That policy appears later in this posting. The NZNOG Trust is registered as a charitable entity under the Charities Act. The trust exists to provide the legal framework needed to do jobs like operating the bank account which holds the money which allows our annual conferences to happen. The trust's annual returns can be read by going to http://www.register.charities.govt.nz/ and searching for registration number CC41726. Other than the four trustees, the NZNOG does not have a formal membership. The trustees are currently looking to replace some of their number. If you've been active in NZNOG's activities and think that may be for you, please contact one of the existing Trustees. Conference NZNOG holds New Zealand's only annual technical networking conference. The next conference is scheduled to take place in Christchurch between 23 and 27 January 2012. See http://2012.nznog.org/cfp for the Call for Participation and other information. Other Meetings See http://thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=6 for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.nzix.net/ for details of exchanges in operation. About This Mailing List This list has just over 1100 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of APN Online and The University of Waikato and a Geek For Hire. Neither of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ . Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use Google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Trustee, NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins -- Donald Neal | So, umm, nothing really rhymes with | infrastructure. High Performance Computing | - Davis McAlary The University of Waikato |

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Results of audience survey about log messages, at NZNOG 2011
by Paul Radford 30 Oct '11

30 Oct '11

Hello list, As promised in my presentation at the 2011 conference, I am making the results of my survey available (hey, better late than never!). The topic was the importance of log messages and the ideas behind how one might choose which are, or are not, important. The survey was of great benefit to my thesis - my thanks to all the participants. The analysis chapter from my thesis: http://ecs.victoria.ac.nz/twiki/pub/Groups/NERG/NetworkEngineeringResearchG… Raw results in CSV and LibreOffice formats: http://ecs.victoria.ac.nz/twiki/pub/Groups/NERG/NetworkEngineeringResearchG… http://ecs.victoria.ac.nz/twiki/pub/Groups/NERG/NetworkEngineeringResearchG… I'm happy to answer off-list any questions that you may have about the results. Of course, I am not able to identify any particular person's return as the process was anonymous. Thanks again, Paul

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NZNOG 2012 - Call for Participation and Papers
by Gerard Creamer 30 Oct '11

30 Oct '11

NZNOG 2012 - Call for Participation and Papers The next conference of the New Zealand Network Operators' Group is to be held in Christchurch, New Zealand between 23/25 January and 27 January 2012. The conference will run across the 26th and 27th of January and as always will include leading speakers in the field of Internet operations from New Zealand and much farther afield. Training workshops and tutorials will precede the conference and run from the 23rd to the 25th of January. The annual conference, workshops and tutorials are a once a year chance for individuals and organisations involved in Internet operations to meet and share the latest in Internet operations, technologies practices and receive high quality training. The event is unique in New Zealand and attracts technical, skilled individuals with a genuine interest in Internet operations and Internetworking technologies. The conference is low priced and has a strong technical focus with the aim and history of getting a strong turnout of technical personal from New Zealand Internet orientated companies. Conference Overview ------------------- NZNOG 2012 will consist of up to three days of workshops and tutorials followed by two days of conference presentations. There will also be opportunity for more informal and small lightening talks. These are typically around five minutes long and are organised closer to the actual conference. Important Dates --------------- Call for Papers opens: 31 October 2011 Deadline for speaker submissions: 1 December 2011 Responses to speaker submissions: 7 December 2011 Draft program published: 15 December 2011 Final program published: 16 January 2012 NZNOG 2012 Conference: 23/25-27 January 2012 SIG / Miniconf / Tutorials / Workshops -------------------------------------- In previous years we have had three day workshops and a day of tutorials, this year we are looking to repeat this if we can get the submissions. Examples of past activities workshops include 'MPLS and fixed access networks for beginners', 'Mikrotik RouterOS Training', 'APNIC Internet Resource Management Essentials', and a System Administrators mini-conference which included talks on 'Using Debian packages for system administration' and '42 hosts in 1U: Using virtual machines'. Conference Presentations ------------------------ The main conference program for 2012 will be made up of two days with a single stream where possible. Presentations don't need to fit any particular fixed length and can be from 30 minutes to 3 hours in length. NZNOG conferences have traditionally spanned the entire operational spectrum, and then some. Proposals for conference presentations are invited for virtually any topic with a degree of relevance to the NZNOG community. If we get enough talks that centre around 'Network operations during an emergency', or 'holy crap! how did the operations community do after that quake? What can we do better?', or similar we will make that a bit of a theme. Past years' talks have included the following: - Internet exchange operations - Global anycast networks and the building thereof - Peering, peering, and peering - Network security - 10GB ethernet operations - How to build a router in these tough and difficult economic times - Current Internet research in NZ - Wireless networking - QOS over carrier networks - Content distribution networks and media streaming - Open Source VoIP Platform in Carrier Environments - Lawful Interception - Designing networks for High Availability - ISP scenarios for IPv6 deployment - Monkeying around on the APE Some ideas for this year also include the following: - How we feared when Christchurch fell off the grid - IPv6, been there done that - DNS Security - Routing Security - Review of 2011 - IPSec - Internet Filtering - How Cloud Computing has impacted Network Design If you are interested in submitting a talk please fill out the questions at then end of this document and email them totalks(a)nznog.org Submission Guidelines --------------------- When considering a presentation or SIG, remember that the NZNOG audience is mainly comprised of technical network operators and engineers with a wide range of experience levels from beginners to multi-year experience. There is a strong orientation to offer core skills and basic knowledge in the SIGs and to address issues relevant to the day-to-day operations of ISPs and network operators in the conference sessions. The inclusion of a title, bio, topic, abstract, and slides with proposals is not compulsory but each will help us determine the quality of your proposal and increase the likelihood it will be accepted. Final slides are to be provided by 15 January 2012. Note: While the majority of speaking slots will be submitted by 15 December 2011, a limited number of slots may be available for presentations that are exceptionally timely, important, or of critical operational importance. The NZNOG conference is a TECHNICAL conference so marketing and commercial content is NOT allowed within the program. The program committee is charged with maintaining the technical standard of NZNOG conferences, and will therefore not accept inappropriate materials. It is expected that the presenter be a technical person and not a sales or marketing person. The audience is extremely technical and unforgiving, and expects that the speakers are themselves very knowledgeable. All sessions provide time for questions, so presenters should expect technical questions and be prepared to deliver insightful and technically deep responses. Funding and Support ------------------- NZNOG conferences are community run and funded events that try to keep the cost to attendees as low as possible so generally we are unable to pay the travel costs of speakers. There is a limited amount of funding available to international speakers. Conference presenters will not have to pay any registration fee for the day they are presenting. Discounts for SIG and lightning talk presenters may be available but are not automatic. Lightning talks --------------- Lightning talks are short talks/presentations that last no more than 10 minutes. This is a good opportunity to get your pet topic out there or perhaps to get some experience with presenting without having to go to a full talk. At NZNOG 2012 it is planned that there will be at least one hour long lightning talk session. Sponsors -------- There are opportunities remaining for organisations to sponsor various aspects of the NZNOG meeting. Please contactsponsorship(a)nznog.org for more information Contact ------- General Enquiries *info(a)nznog.org Talks and Papers *talks(a)nznog.org Talk Proposals -------------- Please submit all talk proposals (including lightning talks) via email totalks(a)nznog.org along with the requested information. Questions regarding talks can be sent to the same address. Sponsorship may be available for a limited number of overseas speakers to attend the conference, please indicate if you require assistance with travel and/or accommodation. Author's Full Name: Author's Email Address: Author's affiliation: Author's short biography: Title of Talk: Abstract: Length of talk: Please provide details if a version of this talk has previously been given: Will travel and accommodation assistance be required: Cheers, Gerard

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FW: [Chapter-delegates] India Proposes Government controlled Internet
by Skeeve Stevens 27 Oct '11

27 Oct '11

Interesting… FYI …Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO - eintellego Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellego.net<mailto:skeeve(a)eintellego.net> ; www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellego twitter.com/networkceoau ; www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve PO Box 7726, Baulkham Hills, NSW 1755 Australia -- eintellego - The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - HP Networking - Cisco - Brocade On 28/10/11 4:20 PM, "Sivasubramanian M" <isolatedn(a)gmail.com<mailto:isolatedn(a)gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, http://news.dot-nxt.com/2011/10/27/india-proposes-government-control-intern… This is from Kieren MacCarthy's article: "In a statement<http://news.dot-nxt.com/2011/10/27/un-ga-india-cirp-proposal> sent yesterday, India argued for the creation of a new body to be called the United Nations Committee for Internet-Related Policies (CIRP) which would develop Internet policies, oversee all Internet standards bodies and policy organizations, negotiate Internet-related treaties, and act as an arbitrator in Internet-related disputes. The CIRP would exist under the United Nations, comprise of 50 Member States, be funded by the United Nations, run by staff from the UN’s Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) arm, and report directly to the UN General Assembly." # And the Government spokesperson argued that this “should not be viewed as an attempt by governments to ‘take over’ or ‘regulate and circumscribe’ the Internet.” !! # The IBSA proposal was badly criticized by the Civil Society in the lists and at the Nairobi Internet Governance Forum, it appeared that India wasn't the prime contributor to that imaginative proposal, but those of us who believed that India couldn't have proposed or fully endorsed the first IBSA proposal --- we were wrong. Sivasubramanian M ISOC India Chennai http://isocindiachennai.org<http://isocindiachennai.org/> _______________________________________________ Chapter-delegates mailing list Chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org<mailto:Chapter-delegates(a)elists.isoc.org> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates

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Fwd: [apnic-talk] ISP routing policies survey
by Andy Linton 27 Oct '11

27 Oct '11

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sharon Goldberg <goldbe(a)cs.bu.edu> Date: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM Subject: [apnic-talk] ISP routing policies survey To: apnic-talk(a)lists.apnic.net Cc: Schapiram(a)gmail.com, Phillipa Gill <phillipa(a)cs.toronto.edu> Hi APNIC, Some of you may have seen the recent discussion on the NANOG list, about how research on Internet routing could really benefit from a better understanding of current routing policies. But we researchers need help from you, the operators, to better understand routing policies. So, we created a short survey. Over 80 ops have already taken our survey, and we need your help to collect more responses. The survey should take under 5 minutes to complete. Feel free to answer all of our questions, or just a few: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~phillipa/measurement/opsurvey/survey.php We'll keep the data anonymous, and use it to improve research on interdomain routing and security. We'll also post aggregated results to relevant mailing lists (here, NANOG, etc). Thanks to those who have already filled in our survey, and we look forward to your responses! Phillipa Gill (University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada) Sharon Goldberg (Boston University, Boston, MA, USA) Michael Schapira (Yale University, New Haven, CT, USA) _______________________________________________ apnic-talk mailing list apnic-talk(a)lists.apnic.net http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-talk

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