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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 06 Mar '11

06 Mar '11

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Snap Internet - AS23655 members: 111.69.0.0/16^16-29, 114.23.0.0/16^16-29, 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 14.1.32.0/19^19-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 111.65.224.0/20^20-29, 182.54.160.0/20^20-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 202.56.32.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 27.110.120.0/21^21-29, 120.136.0.0/21^21-29, 202.56.48.0/21^21-29, 202.137.240.0/21^21-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 110.92.16.0/22^22-29, 113.197.96.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 140.200.7.0/24^24-29, 143.96.13.0/24^24-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.36.141.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.37.179.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.110.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.92.25.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 203.174.26.0/24^24-29, 203.191.7.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29, 210.55.110.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: support(a)biz.snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20110214 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Snap Internet - AS23655 members: 111.69.0.0/16^16-29, 114.23.0.0/16^16-29, 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 159.117.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 14.1.32.0/19^19-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 111.65.224.0/20^20-29, 182.54.160.0/20^20-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 202.56.32.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 27.110.120.0/21^21-29, 120.136.0.0/21^21-29, 202.56.48.0/21^21-29, 202.137.240.0/21^21-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 110.92.16.0/22^22-29, 113.197.96.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 140.200.7.0/24^24-29, 143.96.13.0/24^24-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.36.141.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.37.179.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.110.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.92.25.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 203.174.26.0/24^24-29, 203.191.7.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29, 210.55.110.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: support(a)biz.snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20110307 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 06 Mar '11

06 Mar '11

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Snap Internet - AS23655 members: 111.69.0.0/16^16-29, 114.23.0.0/16^16-29, 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 14.1.32.0/19^19-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 111.65.224.0/20^20-29, 182.54.160.0/20^20-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 202.56.32.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 27.110.120.0/21^21-29, 120.136.0.0/21^21-29, 202.56.48.0/21^21-29, 202.137.240.0/21^21-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 110.92.16.0/22^22-29, 113.197.96.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 140.200.7.0/24^24-29, 143.96.13.0/24^24-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.36.141.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.37.179.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.110.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.92.25.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 203.174.26.0/24^24-29, 203.191.7.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29, 210.55.110.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: support(a)biz.snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20110214 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS23655 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Snap Internet - AS23655 members: 111.69.0.0/16^16-29, 114.23.0.0/16^16-29, 130.195.0.0/16^16-29, 132.181.0.0/16^16-29, 138.75.0.0/16^16-29, 153.111.0.0/16^16-29, 159.117.0.0/16^16-29, 165.84.0.0/16^16-29, 123.255.0.0/18^18-29, 14.1.32.0/19^19-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 202.124.96.0/19^19-29, 111.65.224.0/20^20-29, 182.54.160.0/20^20-29, 202.49.16.0/20^20-29, 202.56.32.0/20^20-29, 203.86.192.0/20^20-29, 27.110.120.0/21^21-29, 120.136.0.0/21^21-29, 202.56.48.0/21^21-29, 202.137.240.0/21^21-29, 202.174.112.0/21^21-29, 210.5.48.0/21^21-29, 110.92.16.0/22^22-29, 113.197.96.0/22^22-29, 202.49.72.0/22^22-29, 202.49.92.0/22^22-29, 202.50.104.0/22^22-29, 202.50.124.0/22^22-29, 202.164.28.0/22^22-29, 203.99.132.0/22^22-29, 202.27.186.0/23^23-29, 202.36.178.0/23^23-29, 202.36.220.0/23^23-29, 202.37.96.0/23^23-29, 202.37.100.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.49.120.0/23^23-29, 210.55.30.0/23^23-29, 210.55.206.0/23^23-29, 140.200.7.0/24^24-29, 143.96.13.0/24^24-29, 192.148.221.0/24^24-29, 192.156.225.0/24^24-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.36.141.0/24^24-29, 202.36.163.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.114.0/24^24-29, 202.37.179.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.46.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.49.115.0/24^24-29, 202.49.125.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.50.110.0/24^24-29, 202.50.117.0/24^24-29, 202.50.169.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 202.146.186.0/24^24-29, 203.92.25.0/24^24-29, 203.96.112.0/24^24-29, 203.174.26.0/24^24-29, 203.191.7.0/24^24-29, 210.7.40.0/24^24-29, 210.55.4.0/24^24-29, 210.55.7.0/24^24-29, 210.55.110.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: support(a)biz.snap.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20110307 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 06 Mar '11

06 Mar '11

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS4826 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Vocus Communications - NO VERIFICATION NEEDED - AS4826 members: 49.224.0.0/14^14-29, 118.92.0.0/15^15-29, 118.148.0.0/15^15-29, 27.252.0.0/16^16-29, 58.7.0.0/16^16-29, 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 101.100.0.0/16^16-29, 114.23.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 121.90.0.0/16^16-29, 124.148.0.0/16^16-29, 124.169.0.0/16^16-29, 124.170.0.0/16^16-29, 130.217.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 139.80.0.0/16^16-29, 157.128.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 182.154.0.0/16^16-29, 203.59.0.0/16^16-29, 220.235.0.0/16^16-29, 220.253.0.0/16^16-29, 14.137.0.0/17^17-29, 113.203.0.0/17^17-29, 124.149.0.0/17^17-29, 124.150.0.0/17^17-29, 124.168.0.0/17^17-29, 180.181.0.0/17^17-29, 203.109.128.0/17^17-29, 203.173.128.0/17^17-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 14.137.128.0/18^18-29, 58.6.192.0/18^18-29, 114.129.128.0/18^18-29, 123.100.64.0/18^18-29, 124.149.192.0/18^18-29, 124.157.64.0/18^18-29, 124.168.128.0/18^18-29, 124.171.0.0/18^18-29, 124.198.128.0/18^18-29, 125.253.0.0/18^18-29, 180.181.128.0/18^18-29, 180.200.128.0/18^18-29, 182.160.128.0/18^18-29, 202.72.128.0/18^18-29, 202.173.128.0/18^18-29, 203.113.192.0/18^18-29, 203.114.128.0/18^18-29, 203.118.128.0/18^18-29, 203.206.0.0/18^18-29, 203.208.64.0/18^18-29, 203.211.64.0/18^18-29, 210.15.192.0/18^18-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 14.1.32.0/19^19-29, 14.137.192.0/19^19-29, 27.50.64.0/19^19-29, 58.6.64.0/19^19-29, 58.6.160.0/19^19-29, 61.245.128.0/19^19-29, 111.67.0.0/19^19-29, 112.141.0.0/19^19-29, 112.141.64.0/19^19-29, 112.141.128.0/19^19-29, 112.141.192.0/19^19-29, 113.192.0.0/19^19-29, 118.127.64.0/19^19-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 119.252.0.0/19^19-29, 120.88.64.0/19^19-29, 121.79.192.0/19^19-29, 122.99.64.0/19^19-29, 123.100.128.0/19^19-29, 124.6.192.0/19^19-29, 124.149.160.0/19^19-29, 124.168.192.0/19^19-29, 124.171.192.0/19^19-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 180.200.192.0/19^19-29, 180.214.64.0/19^19-29, 180.222.0.0/19^19-29, 182.48.128.0/19^19-29, 202.45.96.0/19^19-29, 202.59.32.0/19^19-29, 202.60.64.0/19^19-29, 202.62.128.0/19^19-29, 202.74.192.0/19^19-29, 202.89.32.0/19^19-29, 202.89.128.0/19^19-29, 202.171.160.0/19^19-29, 202.181.0.0/19^19-29, 203.89.64.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/19^19-29, 203.124.96.0/19^19-29, 203.129.32.0/19^19-29, 203.152.96.0/19^19-29, 203.206.128.0/19^19-29, 203.206.224.0/19^19-29, 203.214.96.0/19^19-29, 203.217.64.0/19^19-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 221.121.128.0/19^19-29, 223.27.0.0/19^19-29, 49.236.240.0/20^20-29, 58.6.0.0/20^20-29, 58.6.32.0/20^20-29, 58.6.112.0/20^20-29, 58.6.144.0/20^20-29, 58.84.224.0/20^20-29, 110.173.144.0/20^20-29, 111.118.160.0/20^20-29, 112.109.64.0/20^20-29, 113.20.0.0/20^20-29, 114.31.192.0/20^20-29, 114.111.128.0/20^20-29, 114.134.0.0/20^20-29, 114.142.160.0/20^20-29, 116.66.160.0/20^20-29, 116.93.128.0/20^20-29, 116.199.208.0/20^20-29, 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Re: [nznog] How common is unfiltered BGP?
by Anton Smith 04 Mar '11

04 Mar '11

Message: 2 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 23:56:27 +0000 From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc(a)internode.com.au> To: Cameron Kerr <ckerr(a)cs.otago.ac.nz> Cc: nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] How common is unfiltered BGP? Message-ID: <5AE909E2-8640-4BDD-ABA4-1D88F9E66B7F(a)internode.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cameron, People filter in different ways and for different reasons: eg. At a small scale people filter based on prefixes. At a larger scale people will filter based from, say, an AS-MACRO which turns into prefixes. At a very large scale it might be ASPATH only as the number of prefixes from a customer might be too hard to deal with (ie. just sheer size of the configs on a router). At a certain size it's just too hard to filter. Some of our peers we can't successfully filter as their AS-MACRO alone is too large to successfully process and place on a router. (These are peers where we see 40k+ prefixes). Then you're down to max-prefix "filtering" which might allow you to stop really dumb things - ie. full table leak, but doesn't stop the insidious things like leaking other people's prefixes where they may only have to send a few prefixes. Some people make a deal out of having "unfiltered" transit - I guess it's okay if you have no systems in place for updating the filters automagically, but typically you can't get advanced features such as remote triggered blackholes unless you are filtered. There are some hybrid approaches people use - eg. they filter customers/peers from sending "largenets" (eg. Tier1 ASes such as 3356, 3549, 1239 etc as well as things like 15169 (Google) and 22822 (Limelight) etc). At a larger scale you might end up with a mishmash of various things: eg. - We have strict filtering on customers and ask them to tell us their prefixes. - We register all our prefixes with a registry (AS-4739 on rr.ntt.net< http://rr.ntt.net> - historical reasons) so our transit is filtered plus we have a good idea of what prefixes we're meant to carry. - We filter by AS-MACRO as much as we can with peers - We filter outbound our own routes against our own internal registry amongst other techniques. But some places are hard: eg. we're at some MLPA based exchanges where there's no useable filter. Some bilateral peers don't register their routes. There are places where ugliness happens. Every now and again we have issues with peers leaking routes - either ours or someone elses and you need to have an operational technique to fix this. My big issue with going for "unfiltered" transit is you can't have remote triggered blackholes, which are a useful technique for protecting you against DDoS by getting your transit to sink the traffic. It's not to hard to figure out a system that allows your own filtered customers to go and announce prefixes to black hole and then back-to-back it with your transit. MMC Matthew, just to check.. Why can't you do remote triggered blackholes without filtered prefixes? Is it because you are worried that they will sink prefixes that don't belong to them? Regards, Anton

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Re: [nznog] [isoc-advisory-council] URGENT UPDATE- Statement relating to today¹s ITU-T SG15 MPLS development decision
by Andy Linton 04 Mar '11

04 Mar '11

I think that we should be very clear in any statements that we make that our view is that the IETF is the arbiter of standards for the Internet and that while we welcome any input that the ITU has to make to that standards process we would be very unhappy to see any steps to see competing standards emerge. The ITU tried that thirty years ago with their support of the OSI protocol stack. It was not useful or successful then and a rerun would be counter productive. I think the statement below gets it pretty well and we should add our support for this: "The Internet is an unprecedented success thanks to open, globally interoperable standards," added Lynn St. Amour, President and CEO of the Internet Society. "This action takes us away from the path of global interoperability. It will have a detrimental effect on the long term health of the Internet, and reduce the benefits to all of us as users. It is imperative that the IETF continues to move forward to develop the MPLS standard in the appropriate way, to ensure the continued health of the Internet as a source of innovation for the future."

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Access to citylink wgtn AT&T
by Barry Murphy (iPhone) 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Can someone with access to citylink AT&T Wellington willing to do me a favor message me offlist, I'm willing to offer a box of beer of your choice in return :) need a cable plugged in, but I'm in Auckland so cant do it myself, simple request Sent from my iPhone

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Vodafone / old ihug static ip ranges on sorbs blocklists?
by Ray Taylor 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Hi Im looking for contact details for someone at vodafone that I can talk to regarding a static ip address or possibly a block they are issuing to customers in their static pool being listed in the sorbs antispam database as a dynamic ip address. This entry dates back to when the ip address was ihugs. It is preventing one of my customers from sending email to recipients behind a sorbs antispam filter / Land Information New Zealand. Im thinking the right person to talk to would subscribe to this mailing list. Thanks, Ray Taylor

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New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

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Re: [nznog] How common is unfiltered BGP?
by Andy Linton 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

So what does this say about the potential introduction of rPKI

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How common is unfiltered BGP?
by Cameron Kerr 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

Hi everyone, I'm just updating my lecture on exteriour routing for this year, and am wanting to know more about the current state of unfiltered BGP, whereby a customer can advertise a prefix they don't have, their service provider didn't suitably filter the advertisement, and it disrupts other networks in the internet. My previous impression, based on discussions around incidents such as the YouTube/Pakistan incident, lead to me believe "Most people don't filter", and I'm just wanting to see if that is [still] the case now. (Also, thanks to Andy for the NRO nudge) Cheers, Cameron

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