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Providers of L2 circuits supporting MTU greater than 1500 in Auckland
by Andrew Thrift 22 Jun '11

22 Jun '11

We are looking to install a gigiabit fibre link from Penrose to the CBD for a client and require a circuit that supports 1530byte packets. Can any providers of this sort of service please contact me off list. Regards, Andrew Thrift

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Fwd: Fwd: AusNOG 05 deadline approaching
by Andy Linton 22 Jun '11

22 Jun '11

Begin forwarded message: > From: Terry Manderson <terry(a)terrym.net> Date: 22 June 2011 11:42:03 > AM AEST To: ausnog(a)ausnog.net Subject: Re: AusNOG 05 deadline > approaching > > Hi All, > > If you are yearning to speak at AusNOG 05, you have just 2 (and a > bit) days remaining to submit a presentation title and abstract. > > .. start typing! ;) > > Cheers Terry > > > On 14/06/2011, at 2:36 PM, Terry Manderson wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Just a polite reminder that the deadline for submissions for AusNOG >> 05 is fast approaching. >> >> If you would like your presentation to be considered for inclusion >> in the AusNOG 05 programme, you have approximately 10 days to >> submit. >> >> http://www.ausnog.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76:ausno… >> >> 24th June: Submission of presentation title, presentation >> description (300 words), and presenter biography (200-400 words) >> >> 29th July: Presenters notified of their acceptance status as an >> AusNOG-05 presentation. >> >> 2nd September: Submission of final presentation slides as Portable >> Document Format (pdf), PowerPoint, or Keynote. Provision of a >> recent digital photograph (<500k) of the presenter. >> >> All submissions must be sent to organisers(a)ausnog.net. >> >> Cheers Terry >

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 21 Jun '11

21 Jun '11

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. 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Telecom NZ PRA and Cisco Voice Gateway Config
by Ben Cornish 21 Jun '11

21 Jun '11

Hi All, Ive never done a PRA install with Telecom NZ with PRA's - Does anyone have a Sample config for a PRA 10 in NZ ? Cheers. Ben Cornish National Network Manager Brennan IT Direct 0732349302 Direct: 0282353520 Mobile 0417617204 Email mailto:benc(a)brennanit.com.au Web http://www.brennanit.com.au/ http://www.brennanit.com.au/cloud

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.nz IDN names with macrons
by Blair Harrison 21 Jun '11

21 Jun '11

Hey guys, Sorry to bust in amongst all the DNSSEC talk.. I'm just curious that with it being almost a year now since the DNC launched macrons for .nz names have any registrars actually got in place the ability in their interfaces to a) register IDN domains and b) set up IDN DNS zones/records etc? a quick survey of the couple of interfaces I have access to points to no, not really, and at least one registrar willing to do it manually for me. So, stick your hand up if you have built in IDN support, please, and those who haven't, why not? Is it lack of demand, or just plain laziness? You've had a year to get it sorted guys ;) Cheers, Blair

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WIX changes Monday 13 June 2011
by Simon Blake 20 Jun '11

20 Jun '11

Hi all Around ~4am Monday morning I'll be moving ~35 of the busier peers on WIX into the new(ish) shiny(ish) dedicated-to-WIX vlan on Citylink. There will be an infinitessimally small outage for each peer being moved (long enough for "switchport access vlan" to take effect, and some MACs to be relearned), and I'll test each peer as I go for reachability. So there shouldn't be any particular impact to customers or the IX as a whole. The peers getting moved (and the others getting left behind) is discussed in gory detail at: http://scorchio.pure-guava.org.nz/posts/WIX_VLAN_Migration/ Cheers Simon -- Simon Blake simon(a)katipo.co.nz Geek for hire +64 22 402 0044

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Community Feedback: WWW.APNIC.NET
by Elly Tawhai 20 Jun '11

20 Jun '11

________________________________________________________________________ Community Feedback: WWW.APNIC.NET ________________________________________________________________________ Hi NZNOG Community, We would like to know what you think about our public website. Please take a few minutes to fill out this quick survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/APNICWebsiteSurvey Everyone who participates will have a chance to win an Apple iPad! APNIC and the Internet Community -------------------------------- As a membership organization, APNIC is committed to serving our Members across the Asia Pacific region. Part of our service is to provide a website that serves as an information portal and document storage facility. Even if you are not an APNIC Member, we greatly appreciate your feedback. Our public website is accessed by a wide range of global Internet community members. Your responses are anonymous, and will only be used to make improvements to www.apnic.net. ________________________________________________________________________ APNIC Secretariat secretariat(a)apnic.net Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100 PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199 6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLD http://www.apnic.net ________________________________________________________________________ * Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary.

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ICANN 41 - now underway
by Save Vocea 20 Jun '11

20 Jun '11

Dear all, The ICANN 41 meeting is already underway in Singapore this week with remote participation offered so one can follow proceedings online. The full meeting schedule is available at http://singapore41.icann.org/full-schedule The official welcoming ceremony is starting at 9am Singapore time today. There’s also live twitter feeds referencing #ICANN and #ICANN41 Regards, Save Vocea ICANN rep Australasia/Pacific Islands

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I don't trust the NZRS DNSSEC procedures... Yet
by Dean Pemberton 19 Jun '11

19 Jun '11

Hi All, (TLDR warning - If you're not going to read this long post then you can skip to the *TLDR Breakpoint* near the end) Trust is a funny thing. It's one of those qualities which is up to an individual to freely give rather than for someone else to demand that it be given. Recently NZRS published their DNSSEC Practice Statement (DPS) to this mailing list and asked us as a community to trust both them and these procedures. But more than that, they have asked us to trust that these procedures would work in the years to come. Even if all the people we know at NZRS have left, we should still be able to trust that these procedures will yield a trustworthy DNSSEC model for the .nz ccTLD And I'm afraid that at the moment, with the current document, I'm in the uncomfortable position of not being able to advise my clients to place any significant level of trust in the current procedures. So where are the problems? For me, being able to evaluate whether I can give this system a tick or a cross, comes down to three areas. The theory that the system is designed around. The people operating the system. The procedures they are following. Get a tick for all of those, and we're all good. Get a cross for any one of those and it still needs work. THEORY: The theory behind this implementation of DNSSEC is sound. NZRS has followed the designs of some giants in the field and I believe they have this right, so THEORY is well on the way to getting a tick. My only concern at this level is a relativity low keysize that has been chosen. NZRS has decided on 1280 as a key length for the KSK. 2048 seems to be a much wider accepted standard. In fact RFC4641 recommends 2048 as a KSK key length for 'high-value' domains such as TLDs. Of the following list of DNSSEC enabled domains only one has chosen 1280 as a KSK length. root 2048 br 1280 se 2048 cz 2048 uk 2048 org 2048 gov 2048 edu 2048 kirei.se 2048 NZRS must have reasons and I'm all ears, but in the mean time, organisations I've spoken to have refused to give this a tick of trust based on the low key length. PEOPLE: It's not even with the current people concerned. Both Jay and Sebastian are great upstanding people and individually worthy of trust, but as far as I know they are not going to be the only ones with access to the key material. They are certainly not going to be the only ones with access in the future. I believe that the current procedures are lacking when it comes to proving to you and me that the people with a level of authority in this system are worthy of trust. Reading the DPS document, the key material is protected by two NZRS employees (or board members) who have had 'standard pre-employment checks'. I'm sorry but that falls below what I need in order to be able to recommend that organisations start to trust this system. Given that we live in a world of Advanced Persistent Threats, this system needs to be safe on a level far above two people, who may even report to the same manager, and nominated friendly people on their CV. Other domains who have implemented DNSSEC, have stated that they will perform financial background checks on trusted individuals, or even checks for previous criminal convictions. Some other domains have even gone to far as to say "We don't even want to be the *only* trusted party. We're going to require other participants to be present". Our very own Andy Linton is one of these Trusted Community Representatives for the root zone. Without these kinds of safeguards, there is nothing to say that in 12 months, when there have been employment changes at NZRS, two of the admins won't feel like selling the key material to the highest bidder (and I have no trouble imagining that it's worth a lot of money). Once again, I'm not saying that the people involved today are untrustworthy, but how will we know that the next person is just as trustworthy? What are the procedures in place to make sure of that? If NZRS widened the group of participants to include Trusted Community Representatives, they would be well on the way to a tick here. PROCEDURES: I believe that there are some areas where the procedures don't meet my bar for being able to trust the system. The highlights are. . No stated archive of old versions of the document. The entire document could change over time and it might not be possible to see when this was done. . No information around the security aspects of the co-location sites. Other DPS documents have outlined the security features used and who has access. . No elaboration on who has access to the equipment. Do co-location staff have access as well as NZRS staff. If not, how is this enforced and audited? . Vulnerabilities are assessed by looking at logs and assessing of there has been a problem. Some more proactive assessment might be worthwhile here. . Why is there no regular schedule for an external audit? ICANN has set regular audit dates (two years I believe without looking it up). Leaving it up to NZRS to have them 'as necessary' means that they could never be done at all. There are some others as well but you can see where I'm going here. The obvious question I ask myself here is: "Dean, are you being an unreasonable git?" Well I don't think so. When the root was signed they got this all correct in my opinion. They got the community on board and have a level of trust in their Theory, People and Procedures which I think is unparalleled at this time. Now I don't expect NZRS to implement the .nz system to the same level, but I do expect it to be just about as high. Looking through the DPS documents of some of the other DNSSEC enabled domains, they get more ticks that we currently do. So I don't think I'm being unreasonable here. I also don't want to create a trust-valley for the .nz ccTLD. The DNC and NZRS have done some great work promoting .nz as a place that people want to host their domains. I don't want it to become a trust-ghetto. It's widely accepted that the root zone got the level of trust right and that it's probably a 10/10. Lets imagine that you're an NZ bank or an NZ government department. You implement your DNSSEC procedures using the same sort of procedures which you currently use for other PKI and get about an 7/10 on the trust scale for your blah.govt.nz domain. You then look at the .nz ccTLD procedures and only give them a 5/10. The problem now is that no matter how much you trust your system, or the root zone, there is always this valley of trust in the middle which is eroding the whole system back to a 5/10. 10| * 9| * 8| * t 7| * * r 6| * * u 5| * * * s 4| * * * t 3| * * * 2| * * * 1|___*_______*__________*________ root .nz blah.govt.nz Now lets imagine that you trust some other domain an 8/10. 10| * 9| * 8| * * t 7| * * * r 6| * * * u 5| * * * s 4| * * * t 3| * * * 2| * * * 1|___*_______*__________*________ root .com blah.com Where do you think people are going to buy domains they want to be secure? Not in the trust-ghetto I can assure you of that. So I'm putting my bar at about an 8 or a 9 for the .nz ccTLD. Any lower than that and it's no use to organisations who want to implement high-assurance DNSSEC themselves. *TLDR Breakpoint* So where to from here? Well I think it's totally fixable. As I mentioned before, I think we currently have the right people currently at NZRS to address this. But what I'd like to see is much less of the: "Trust us, we know what we're doing" And much more of: "Here is exactly what we're doing. You tell us if we've got your trust yet." So lets start to address some of these issues. If you think I've got it wrong, than by all means chime in. If you think there are other areas which need work then chime in. If we get this right then I'm going to be the biggest .nz DNSSEC advocate and tell everyone who will listen that .nz is the place to host domains you want to secure. Otherwise I'll just buy more non .nz names and advise others to do the same. Regards, Dean

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 17 Jun '11

17 Jun '11

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.50.192.0/19^19-29, 202.154.128.0/19^19-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 114.134.160.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.160.48.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 203.96.16.0/20^20-29, 203.96.48.0/20^20-29, 203.96.128.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29, 114.134.176.0/21^21-29, 116.90.128.0/21^21-29, 117.18.80.0/21^21-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 120.138.16.0/21^21-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.49.152.0/21^21-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 210.4.208.0/21^21-29, 113.197.64.0/22^22-29, 114.31.212.0/22^22-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 203.80.60.0/22^22-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 202.6.116.0/23^23-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.44.0/23^23-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.36.204.0/23^23-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.50.246.0/23^23-29, 202.174.6.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.100.53.0/24^24-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.173.24.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.37.57.0/24^24-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.37.93.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.118.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 202.134.48.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29, 203.119.56.0/24^24-29, 203.171.223.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.211.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: mark.foster(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20110426 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ICONZ Ltd - AS4770 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 180.189.192.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.50.192.0/19^19-29, 202.154.128.0/19^19-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 114.134.160.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.160.48.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 203.96.16.0/20^20-29, 203.96.48.0/20^20-29, 203.96.128.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29, 114.134.176.0/21^21-29, 116.90.128.0/21^21-29, 117.18.80.0/21^21-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 120.138.16.0/21^21-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.49.152.0/21^21-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 210.4.208.0/21^21-29, 113.197.64.0/22^22-29, 114.31.212.0/22^22-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 203.80.60.0/22^22-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 202.6.116.0/23^23-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.44.0/23^23-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.36.204.0/23^23-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.50.246.0/23^23-29, 202.174.6.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 182.236.127.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.100.53.0/24^24-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.173.24.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.37.57.0/24^24-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.37.93.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.118.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 202.134.48.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29, 203.119.56.0/24^24-29, 203.171.223.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.211.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: mark.foster(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20110617 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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