July 2012 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

For he's a jolly good fellow...
by Andy Linton 15 Jul '12

15 Jul '12

Dean Pemberton, who some of you may know, was made a Fellow of InternetNZ last night at the AGM. Big ups to him. andy

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Remote access to Data Loggers in Taharoa Mine and Rangiriri
by Bill Walker 11 Jul '12

11 Jul '12

Hey Guys, I'm looking for someone who would be interested in building a solution to give remote access to two data loggers in the North Island: Taharoa Mine 38° 9'52.40"S 174°42'48.84"E Rangiriri Interchange 37°25'41.29"S 175° 7'41.86"E Basically the solution would need to be self contained and probably solar powered. It would need to interface to both these data loggers via serial. If your interested or know someone who would be, send me your details and I'll forward them onto the engineer who has this requirement. This is something I could do but I'm on the wrong island and I doubt my wife would let me go..... Thanks, Bill

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Re: [nznog] APNIC - The policy to end all policies prop-103-v001
by Dean Pemberton 11 Jul '12

11 Jul '12

That may be true for v4 (although I'm far from convinced). But I'm not at all buying it for v6 On Wednesday, July 11, 2012, wrote: > > > Actually, I think that this proposal is more than just to incite thinking, > it actually > has merit. The v4 space is functionally all assigned. Many/Most of the > existing policies > are focused on events that are no longer relevent. new policies, if any, > should ensure > accurate recording of stewardship. It would make an ISP's life -MUCH- > simpler. > > /bill > > > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 03:53:19PM +1200, Dean Pemberton wrote: > > So let me ask a simple question. > > > > Do people think that there is a need to develop any more IP policies? Or > > are all the policies we have the moment sufficient for the future? > > > > Dean > > > > On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: > > > > > I think Randy's taking the wrong tactic with this. > > > > > > Policy needs to be a series of no-rules cage fights or, maybe, > something > > > along the line of gladiator traditions in Roman time. > > > > > > Then it could be televised, a profit made and APNIC run from that > profit > > > rather than charging for IP addresses and ASes. > > > > > > MMC > > > > > > On 09/07/2012, at 6:08 AM, Dean Pemberton wrote: > > > > > > > Morning all, > > > > > > > > Randy Bush (from IIJ in Japan) has just tabled a policy for > discussion > > > > at the August APNIC members meeting. > > > > Essentially if passed this would see the APNIC policy development > > > > process disolved. > > > > > > > > I'm interested in feedback that people on this list may have, and I'm > > > > happy to pass it along on the sig-policy list or in person at the > > > > meeting. > > > > As always, feel free to contribute to what I'm sure will be heated > > > > discussion on the APNIC sig-policy list. I'll try and summarise the > > > > happenings back here. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Dean > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)lpnz.org> > > > > Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:32 AM > > > > Subject: [sig-policy] prop-103-v001: A Final IP Address Policy > Proposal > > > > To: SIG policy <sig-policy(a)apnic.net> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SIG members > > > > > > > > The proposal "prop-103-v001: A Final IP Address Policy Proposal" has > > > > been sent to the Policy SIG for review. > > > > > > > > It will be discussed at the Policy SIG at APNIC 34 in Phnom Penh, > > > > Cambodia, Thursday, 30 August 2012. > > > > > > > > We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing > list > > > > before the meeting. > > > > > > > > The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an > > > > important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to > > > > express your views on the proposal: > > > > > > > > - Do you support or oppose this proposal? > > > > - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? > If > > > > so, tell the community about your situation. > > > > - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? > > > > - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? > > > > - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it > more > > > > effective? > > > > > > > > Information about this and other policy proposals is available from: > > > > > > > > https://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-103 > > > > > > > > Andy, Skeeve, Masato > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > prop-103-v001: A Final IP Address Policy Proposal > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Author: Randy Bush > > > > <randy(a)psg.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Introduction > > > > ------------------- > > > > > > > > IPv4 is history, with no need to add more pol> > > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NZNOG mailing list > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz <javascript:;> > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > >

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APNIC - The policy to end all policies prop-103-v001
by Dean Pemberton 11 Jul '12

11 Jul '12

Morning all, Randy Bush (from IIJ in Japan) has just tabled a policy for discussion at the August APNIC members meeting. Essentially if passed this would see the APNIC policy development process disolved. I'm interested in feedback that people on this list may have, and I'm happy to pass it along on the sig-policy list or in person at the meeting. As always, feel free to contribute to what I'm sure will be heated discussion on the APNIC sig-policy list. I'll try and summarise the happenings back here. Regards, Dean ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)lpnz.org> Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:32 AM Subject: [sig-policy] prop-103-v001: A Final IP Address Policy Proposal To: SIG policy <sig-policy(a)apnic.net> Dear SIG members The proposal "prop-103-v001: A Final IP Address Policy Proposal" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. It will be discussed at the Policy SIG at APNIC 34 in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, Thursday, 30 August 2012. We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list before the meeting. The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to express your views on the proposal: - Do you support or oppose this proposal? - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, tell the community about your situation. - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective? Information about this and other policy proposals is available from: https://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-103 Andy, Skeeve, Masato ------------------------------------------------------------------- prop-103-v001: A Final IP Address Policy Proposal -------------------------------------------------------------------- Author: Randy Bush <randy(a)psg.com> 1. Introduction ------------------- IPv4 is history, with no need to add more policy. IPv6 is sufficiently plentiful that further policies are not needed. So let us agree to make no more IP address policies or proposals. 2. Summary ---------------- The APNIC community spends time and resources proposing, discussing, arguing, ... about IP address policies out of habit. The process is no longer relevant to actually coordinating the prudent and high quality operation of the internet. 3. Situation in other RIRs --------------------------------- There is an industry of policy wannabes spending inordinate time and resources making endless policy proposals about miniscule issues and baroque corner cases. This is a waste of time and other resources. 4. Details ------------- The policy proposal and decision processes should be closed and stopped after the Phnom Penh meeting. Should an emergency arise, where community consensus is needed, the EC can organize fora for forming that consensus. 5. Pros/Cons ----------------- Advantages: - We would not have to spend time discussing things of small consequence and which do not help the customer/user in any real way. Disadvantages: - It would impact the amateur careers of policy wannabes. This is a feature, not a bug. 6. Effect on APNIC ------------------------- Saves money, time, and other resources such as administrative complexity created by more complex but useless policies. 7. Effect on NIRs ----------------------- Saves money, time, and other resources such as administrative complexity created by more complex but useless policies.. * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy * _______________________________________________ sig-policy mailing list sig-policy(a)lists.apnic.net http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy

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Global IPv6 Deployment Survey Extended to 13 July
by Elly Tawhai 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

Hi NZNOG Community, The 2012 Global IPv6 Deployment Survey is still open for participation. Kind regards, Elly APNIC ________________________________________________________________________ Global IPv6 Deployment Survey Extended ________________________________________________________________________ The 2012 Global IPv6 Deployment Survey has been extended to Friday, 13 July. Please take a few minutes to complete the survey at: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2012 The purpose of the survey is to better understand what can be done to increase IPv6 adoption in the Asia Pacific region and worldwide. The findings from the 2012 survey will be compared to previous years to give a perspective on regional and global progress. The results will be presented and discussed widely. Please provide your name and contact information on the survey form if you wish to receive the draft survey analysis when available. Please also indicate whether you are willing to share additional data with the TNO and GNKS Consult IPv6 Deployment Monitoring team. We appreciate your time and interest in completing this survey. If you have any questions concerning the survey, please send an email to: info(a)gnksconsult.com ________________________________________________________________________ APNIC Secretariat secretariat(a)apnic.net Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100 PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199 6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLD http://www.apnic.net ________________________________________________________________________ * Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary.

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Auckland Curry on Wednesday 11 July 2012 at 7:30pm
by Lin Nah 09 Jul '12

09 Jul '12

HI All, As some of you know InTAC and nethui are on in Auckland this week. There's going to be a curry dinner on Wednesday 11 July 2012 at 7:30pm. Yes TNC on a Wednesday because there's too much going on Thursday including InternetNZ AGM, and Great Blend. I'd like to invite anyone at nznog who is in Auckland to join us for dinner on Wednesday evening, whether or not you are attending Nethui. When: WEDNESDAY 11 July 2012 at 7:30pm. Venue: Raviz at 51 Hobson St, Auckland CBD Map: http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=13701671441809390231 http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/index.cgi/Nethui_Curry http://www.facebook.com/events/460908993939232/ Usual TNC rules apply. ie Bill will be split evenly among all attendees. RSVP by email to me OR to the event on facebook. I'm collecting numbers so I can ensure we have enough seats at the restaurant. In case you don't know: There's a regular ThursdayNightCurry in both Auckland and Wellington. Wellington meets weekly at Daawat http://wellington.thursdaynightcurry.com/ Auckland meets fortnightly, location varies http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ Both start at 7:30pm. Anyone is welcome to join us. regards lin IF you have RSVP'd AND are going, please please put the relevant dates in your diary/electronic calendar/reminders. It is easy to forget.

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Carrier Neutral DC
by James Kelty 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

Hello there, We have need to find a good carrier neutral data centre in NZ within the next couple of months. Looking for any opinions/suggestions on who to contact, or who to stay away from. One to two racks, 10 - 20 Mbit/s committed rate (possibly more). Thanks! -James

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Topological map of international transit changes... ispmap
by Barry Murphy 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

So this list has been rather quiet of late and I've had some time on my hands to generate another ISPmap for archive... Between 22 April 2012 (http://ispmap.co.nz//work/topmap-22-Apr-2012.html) and 5th July 2012 (http://ispmap.co.nz//work/topmap-05-Jul-2012.html) it's noticeable that the following changes occurred on Tier 1 International transit providers: Telstra Clear: +2 Vocus: +2 Pacnet: -1 Odysey: -1 Global-Gateway: -2 This isn't to say I've got all providers listed, but I'm sure I'm close to it. It also doesn't represent if someone moved from global gateway to vocus and another from vocus to global gateway (swapping customer for customer), still interesting data for some :) Remember a near realtime version is available at http://ispmap.co.nz/realtime.php If I don't have you listed and you have your own ASN, please flick me an email off list and I'll add you seeing as I have a bit of time on my hands. Cheers Barry Murphy

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NZ Traceroute Servers
by Jonathan Brewer 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Hey Folks, I'm interested in building a picture of how NZ traffic flows to and from various Asian destinations. Unless I'm reading the results wrong, Perry's traceroute server here http://tr.meta.net.nz/tr.php appears to have only NZ networks preferring Vocus and Telstra international transit. That leaves us without a view of what the world looks like to networks who escape New Zealand via Odyssey, Pacnet, Telecom. Are there any more traceroute servers around? Am I just plain wrong and not seeing something obvious? Thanks, Jon

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FW: Attn: Vodafone Mail Admin - Bouncing emails
by Regan Murphy 04 Jul '12

04 Jul '12

Trying list because postmaster bounced: 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected postmaster(a)vodafone.co.nz<mailto:postmaster(a)vodafone.co.nz> From: Regan Murphy Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 3:07 p.m. To: 'postmaster(a)vodafone.co.nz' Subject: Attn: Vodafone Mail Admin - Bouncing emails Dear Vodafone Mail Admin I think you are rejecting emails relayed between two of your internal mail servers. Please check and fix. Both Sender and Reporting MTAs listed below belong to you. Thanks Regan From: mail.marshal(a)vodafone.com<mailto:mail.marshal(a)vodafone.com> [mailto:mail.marshal(a)vodafone.com]<mailto:[mailto:mail.marshal(a)vodafone.com]> Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 2:52 p.m. To: OA User Subject: Undeliverable Mail: "FW: xxxxxxx" Your message: From: user(a)oasystems.co.nz<mailto:user(a)oasystems.co.nz> Subject: FW: xxxxxxx Could not be delivered because of Server refused mail at MAIL FROM - 530 5.7.1 Client was not authenticated The following recipients were affected: user(a)vodafone.com<mailto:user(a)vodafone.com> Additional Information ====================== Original Sender: <user(a)oasystems.co.nz<mailto:user(a)oasystems.co.nz>> Sender-MTA: <195.232.244.9> Reporting-MTA: <csmx01aftc.vodafone.co.nz> MessageName: <B4ff3afc60001.000000000001.0003.mml> Last-Attempt-Date: <14:51:55 Wed, 04 July 2012> Regan Murphy Microsoft Solution Architect | OA Systems Ltd | Level 1, OA Systems House, 1C/95 Ascot Ave, Remuera, Auckland 1051, New Zealand DDI +64 (9) 966 5982 | Mobile +64 (27) 566 9914 | Office +64 (9) 522 2370 | regan.murphy(a)oasystems.co.nz<mailto:regan.murphy(a)oasystems.co.nz> | http://oasystems.co.nz<http://oasystems.co.nz/> [Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg(a)01CB4AEA.58C21C30] This communication, including any attachments, may contain information which is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient: please contact the sender as soon as possible; delete all copies of this communication; and note that you are not authorised to read, copy, use or disclose any part of this communication to anyone. Thank you.

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