July 2014 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

Re: [nznog] Xtra's email changes
by Glen Eustace 24 Jul '14

24 Jul '14

On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 20:30 +1200, Alexander Neilson wrote: > Probable that nobody can give you a final answer on it until the > policy actually takes effect as it would work fine now. > > > However you could contact xtra and ask. Probably good advice, so I gave it a go. The first person I spoke to didn't know so I was passed on to another. The response I received was. The 'send.xtra.co.nz' server will reject any address that has not been registered even if an xtra.co.nz address has been used for authentication. To register such addresses, ring the Telecom Broadband Help Desk on 0800225598. I then raised the question of whether the MFD photocopiers had been catered for as many don't provide a particularly feature-full smtp client. The answer was "I don't know, please try it and see, if it doesn't work please contact us and we will try to get it working for you". These were better responses than I had expected but still leave me trying to explain to our customers what they need to do. Sigh...

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Re: [nznog] Xtra's email changes
by Nathan Ward 23 Jul '14

23 Jul '14

(Replying to the list, because you did the same for Alexander Neilson) On 24/07/2014, at 9:53 pm, Glen Eustace <geustace(a)godzone.net.nz> wrote: > On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 21:46 +1200, Nathan Ward wrote: >> I’m confused, are there questions you have that are not answered by this page? >> http://www.telecom.co.nz/help/internet/smtpupdate.html > > OK, I plead ignorance. I didn't get the original letter sent to the customer and I didn't know about this page. And yes you are right it pretty much gives all the answers. I learned about this page from this post: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2014-July/020987.html I have learned that it is wise not to ignore email from Richard Naylor, especially when it is a reply to a post you’ve made to the list. > In relation to the MFDs from what I have heard, the ones that are broken are not that old <face-sad.png> Like I say, don’t put them anywhere near the Internet, or replace them with something with software written since the 1990s. I’m sure the NE2000 network card upgrade was expensive at the time, but really, I’m sure it’s done it’s dash. Anyway, I recommend that the rest of this conversation happen on Geekzone, there’s a thread on it here: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=39&topicid=150006 -- Nathan Ward

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Xtra's email changes
by Glen Eustace 23 Jul '14

23 Jul '14

Hi, Can somebody confirm or deny please. I just had another query where a customer uses Xtra broadband, and is hence an xtra customer but are hosting their email with us. If they use their someone(a)xtra.co.nz email address to authenticate against send.xtra.co.nz, can they continue to use their own domain when sending email ? This seems, in my opinion, to be something that should be allowed but I can't test it as I am not an Xtra customer nor have access to an Xtra broadband connection. Glen -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 4446 Ph: +64 6 357 8168, Fax: +64 6 357 8165, Mob: +64 27 542 4015 "A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations"

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CallPlus Old Open Recursive Resolver - closing
by Nick Clifford 22 Jul '14

22 Jul '14

Hi all, This by now is a pretty standard, we too are closing down public access to the last of our open recursive resolvers. CallPlus Group (Slingshot/Flip/2Talk/Callplus/Orcon) customers will continue to have access to them, but external access will be denied. IP Addresses: 202.180.64.2 202.180.64.3 202.180.64.4 202.180.64.9 Close Date: 31st July 2014 All of the above IP addresses will stop answering to recursive queries for non CallPlus/Slingshot/2Talk/Flip/Orcon customers Thursday Morning 31/July/2014. If for some strange reason this would cause you concern, please contact myself on this email address. (Malware authors are welcome to contact with their GPS coordinates and bunker thickness - we can arrange something). Cheers, Nick Nick Clifford NOC Support Manager Direct: +64 9 919 6162 Mobile: +64 21 960 411 Fax: +64 9 919 6163

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DROA suspended by ICANN
by Juha Saarinen 21 Jul '14

21 Jul '14

Not before time. ICANN notice and story here: http://www.internetnews.me/2014/07/19/domain-registry-america-suspended-ica… -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen

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Windows - Level 2 Help needed in Albany
by Skeeve Stevens 20 Jul '14

20 Jul '14

Hey all, I need someone for some onsite work in Albany on Thursday from about 4pm NZ time. Also, the SAME resources should be able to return back there on Friday morning for any user related issues. It is basically moving desktops from domain to another... about 11 desktops, making sure printing works, etc. One guy should be enough, but I'd like an option for two if required. Someone please get back to me ASAP so I can lock this in. Respond by email with skills/costs/etc. Someone with recommendations from someone I know and trust in the community would help :) ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.co.nz ; www.eintellegonetworks.co.nz Phone: +612 8014 7398; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering

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Call for Presentations - DNS-OARC Fall Workshop, October 2014
by Sebastian Castro 20 Jul '14

20 Jul '14

Call for Presentations - DNS-OARC Fall Workshop, October 2014 Next OARC Fall Workshop will take place in Los Angeles, California, USA on October 11th to the 13th, the weekend before ICANN51. On Monday October 13th there will be a joint session with ICANN Tech Day. OARC is requesting proposals for presentations, with a preference for DNS data analysis tools and techniques. This workshop continues OARC's tradition of having meetings include a strong operational component. Presentations from DNS operators are particularly welcome. We'll also gladly accept talks from DNS researchers, as well as any other DNS-related subjects such as tools, visualizations, DNSSEC and novel uses of the DNS. If you are an OARC member, and have a sensitive topic you would like to present for members-only, we will accommodate those talks too. Adopting practice from other conferences, a section of lighting talks will be available for short presentations. Workshop Milestones * 20 July 2014, Call for Presentations posted * 21 July 2014, Open for submissions * 15 August 2014, Deadline for submission * 29 August 2014, Final Program published Details for abstract submission will be published here: https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/workshop-2014-10 The workshop will be organized on different tracks, depending on the topics. On Sunday October 12th we will have the more in depth technical presentations, and on Monday October 13th presentations that can benefit from a larger and broader audience. If you consider submitting a presentation, please let the Programme Committee know for which track in advance to help us organize the presentations tracks. You can contact the Programme Committee: https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/programme via (submissions(a)dns-oarc.net) if you have questions or concerns. Sebastian Castro, for the OARC Programme Committee (Please note that OARC is run on a non-profit basis, and is not in a position to reimburse expenses or time for speakers at its meetings.)

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BGP Session flapping with Vodafone Blue (Telstra Clear)
by Alexander Neilson 16 Jul '14

16 Jul '14

Has anyone else been seeing their Vodafone Blue (Telstra Clear) BGP sessions expiring hold timers / flapping this evening? We were experiencing the sessions timing out and dropping then coming back from about 6:50pm NZ till about 9:15pm NZ and looking at BGPlay I can’t see any withdrawals from when the sessions dropped so outbound traffic seemed to re route however inbound was at least partially black holed. I tried to ring the faults team and got no answer, I have sent in a fault via email nearly an hour ago and no response yet so was looking to try and isolate who / where people experienced this and try nut out what is happening. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Change to Telecom's email service
by Glen Eustace 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

We have had enquiries from several of our customers in the last couple of days regarding an email they have received from Telecom. It relates to a change in Telecom's email service that I find interesting. These customers use Telecom as their ISP, and have a mailbox on Telecom's Yahoo/Xtra service but they use their own domain when sending messages, we are their MX host and we redirect their mail to their xtra.co.nz address. Apparently from the end of September Telecom are going to prevent their customers from using their SMTP servers unless the From address on outbound email is an Xtra one (or I presume a domain that they manage). Up until now, we have always instructed customers to use the SMTP servers belonging to their ISP (i.e. the ISP providing their Internet service), that advice now goes out the window and we are going to have to work with Telecom's customers to help them setup authenticated SMTP to our servers. I am not impressed that Telecom are effectively going to break their email service (for their own customers) and are relying on others (e.g. us) to fix their customers email for them, when in my opinion, the customers email isn't currently broken. Glen.

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Re: [nznog] Change to Telecom's email service
by Peter Lambrechtsen 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

Anyone can opt out of port 25 blocking. It's nothing to do with static ip or not. Sent from my phone on the smartphonetwork. -------- Original message -------- From: David Mitchell <David.Mitchell(a)lanworx.co.nz> Date: 15/07/2014 9:09 PM (GMT+12:00) To: Dave Green <dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz>,nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Change to Telecom's email service That is correct, send requires authentication. A bit of a pain for Xerox copiers that don't support authentication correctly. Also, Telecom block outbound port 25, unless you opt out, and can only opt out on a connection with a static IP. -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Green Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2014 6:32 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Change to Telecom's email service > On 15/07/2014, at 17:43, Glen Eustace <geustace(a)godzone.net.nz> wrote: > > Here is the relevant parts of the email. NB: The customer uses their > xtra mailbox and POPs from it. But they have their From: set to the > address below. > > > OPTION 1: Keep using admin(a)customers-domain.co.nz. > [...] Doesn't send.xtra.co.nz require authentication while smtp.xtra.co.nz doesn't (but the connection must come from an Xtra subscriber)? Or something like that. If you get your free Xtra email addy and use that to auth to send.xtra.co.nz I wouldn't have thought it would matter what the From email address is. Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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