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Re: [nznog] Help block out China please.
by Pete Mundy 08 Dec '13

08 Dec '13

A story along a similar line that reinforces this view: I put a phone on public IP space a few weeks back, then got sidetracked while configuring it. Before I had even returned to enter a new admin password and the correct SIP details (only 1/2hr later!), the phone had already been attempting to dial out on it's own. Turns out a robot had found it on it's public IP with port 80 open and started issuing it dial commands before I even had a chance to go about locking it down. It was unable to dial out as it hadn't had the correct SIP server or login details configured, but it just goes to show that the device really need to be locked down _before_ being put on any publicly accessible IP space, even if just for provisioning purposes! Pete On 8/12/2013, at 3:17 PM, "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins(a)arbor.net> wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Don Gould <don(a)bowenvale.co.nz> wrote: > >> Clearly you can't even put a quick and dirty box in place to just prove a concept without having to bolt it down. > > Correct - it simply isn't viable to expose an unpatched/unsecured box to the Internet at all, due to all the automated scanning/hacking activities taking place. > > +1 to the other folks who recommended more workable solutions - 'GeoIP' isn't exact at all, and not all bad nodes (of any nationality) are in China. > > Roland Dobbins

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Re: [nznog] Help block out China please.
by Regan Murphy 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

Build the box behind a firewall and don't open incoming ports until its ready to go. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Don Gould<mailto:don(a)bowenvale.co.nz> Sent: ‎8/‎12/‎2013 9:54 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz<mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] Help block out China please. How do I download the current patch set for Windows 2012 R2 so I can apply it before putting the box on the network? This seems a bit chicken and egg. (And yes I agree this really is a Geekzone or Whirlpool type question now, but I'm a bit interested in what advice operators are keen for us to be dishing to folk.) Beer. D On 8/12/2013 4:36 p.m., Pete Mundy wrote: > locked down_before_ being put on any publicly accessible IP space > -- > Don Gould > 31 Acheson Ave > Mairehau > Christchurch, New Zealand > Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 > Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 > Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) > > I'M COLLECTING COFFEE CUPS FOR PROJECT COFFEE CUP. > > Deja vue (missing the French accent mark) - literally means already seen, that sense of haven't we been here before. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Help block out China please.
by Don Gould 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

Hi, I've got a machine that's been hacked twice in the past week from IP ranges in China. I have it behind a Mikrotik router. There is no reason for anything outside of NZ and AU to be looking at this box so I'm keen to just block the rest of the world from it. I'm currently thinking an address list to just block out the world or an address list to include Au and Nz. Keen for ideas. D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) I'M COLLECTING COFFEE CUPS FOR PROJECT COFFEE CUP. Deja vue (missing the French accent mark) - literally means already seen, that sense of haven't we been here before.

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SoapUI with WOMBL?
by Michael Fincham 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Afternoon all, Has anyone managed to get Chorus's WOMBL B2B test environment working in SoapUI? One complimentary beer, redeemable at NZNOG 2014, for anyone who can share the settings in SoapUI required to make this work :) -- Michael Fincham

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Domain registration scammers
by LRW Longhurst 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Hi all, Sorry, and "beer" because this is more of an Aussie question, maybe someone can direct me to somewhere more appropriate. One of our execs received one of those "domain name available" letters in the form of an invoice, inviting him to register a name in .net.au that's similar to another name we own. This seems to have come via snail-mail but it invites payment at domainnamegroup.com.au. Do we do anything about such scammers? Suing them for wasting our time springs to mind, but I'm thinking more in terms of reporting to an authority. I know this practice has been around for a while but it's the first time I've encountered it directly. -- Lesley Longhurst (previously Walker) Linux Systems Administrator Opus International Consultants Ltd Email lesley.longhurst(a)opus.co.nz Tel +64 4 471 7002, Fax +64 4 473 3017 http://www.opus.co.nz Level 9 Majestic Centre, 100 Willis Street, PO Box 12 343 Wellington, New Zealand

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Need C2T breakout cable in sky tower kinda urgent
by Alexander Neilson 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Hey Everyone Beer, as required (and a big beer - or drink of choice - for my saviour) I am up working in our racks in sky tower and was doing a scheduled reboot of a server to move some power cables. Now the machine won’t complete booting and I suspect the CMOS battery may have died and the complete removal of power has lost the cmos settings stopping at least part of the boot cycle. I have a keyboard, mouse and screen here but it seems to use a C2D breakout cable to connect up to what looks like a larger than normal DVI port. Does anyone have a cable to get a standard VGA monitor signal out of an IBM eServer xSeries 335 machine anywhere in auckland (nearer sky tower the better) and even better if I can come grab it now. It seems to be one of two adapters I don’t have in my kit with me (this will be fixed) but any white knights would be really appreciated. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Request for IPv4 /23
by Daniel Watson 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

G'day Noggers Thought i would bring this topic back alive as we are still actively looking for a /24 preferably even a /23 but at good pricing. If you have available space your willing to sell at a good price, I'd love to hear from you Even if you have space you would be willing to lease/rent I'd like to hear from you TIA Daniel

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Who's fibre?
by Paul Adshead 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

A new fibre install has just showed up in a shared basement riser. It's currently not connected and no-one in the building is claiming it's theirs. The only identifying mark (written in pen on electrical tape) is "VS-42xxx" (xxx are numbers). Would anyone know which fibre company tags their new installs with labels in this format? We've been told fibre would be unavailable for years at this location, so would really like to get a circuit from that cable, if I only knew who to call.... Thanks Paul Adshead

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Re: [nznog] Who's fibre?
by Stu Fleming 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Jon Brewer: "That's hilarious. There's always a receptionist with keys to the basement or pabx room that will give up keys without asking questions if you've got an orange vest and a decent looking id card." That rules out Chorus then. They can't install anything in a shared building without a 90-day lead time and a mountain of consent paperwork. Also the procedure for obtaining a roof key is slightly more complex as it usually involves the receptionist first a) checking that you are in a happy, smiling mood and b) cautioning you sternly to "make sure you don't fall off"

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Multi-homing without PI space
by Richard Hulse 30 Nov '13

30 Nov '13

Very late to the party... Matthew, if you want to contact me off list I'd be happy to share our experience with becoming an AS, multi-homing, anycast, self-hosting and anything else you might find useful. Cheers, Richard Radio New Zealand Disclaimer Emails sent by Radio New Zealand Limited (RNZ) or any related entity, including any attachments, may be confidential, protected by copyright and/or subject to privilege. If you receive an email from RNZ in error, please inform the sender immediately, delete it from your system and do not use, copy or disclose any of the information in that email for any purpose. Emails to/from RNZ may undergo email filtering and virus scanning, including by third party contractors. However, RNZ does not guarantee that any email or any attachment is secure, error-free or free of viruses or other unwanted or unexpected inclusions. The views expressed in any non-business email are not necessarily the views of RNZ www.radionz.co.nz<http://www.radionz.co.nz>

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NZ download speed improvement
by Nicholas Lee 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

http://www.pcworld.co.nz/article/483086/new_zealand_ranks_43rd_online_downl… 25 May, 2010 "It found that over the past 30 days, Kiwis testing their connections on its two source sites recorded average *download speeds of 5.96 Mbit/s*. When it came to upload speeds, New Zealand ranked 42nd, with an average speed of 1.3 Mbit/s." There seems to have been a reasonable improvement: http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/ 42 New Zealand - 17.02 Mbps 49 Australia - 14.23 Mbps High density fibre installations like they have in HK would be nice: 1. Hong Kong - 71.01 Mbps Nicholas

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Re: [nznog] Advertising /32 externally via BGP
by Tony Wicks 22 Nov '13

22 Nov '13

You need a high metric null route for that /32. Liam Farr <liamfarr(a)me.com> wrote: >Hi,I'verunintoabitofadumbproblem,hopefullysomeoneherecanpointmeintherightdirection.Ireceivearoutetoa/28fromamemberofmyBGPconfederation,(the/28isonadirectlyconnectedinterfaceofthisrouter)viaBGPtooneofmyedgerouters,andIwishtoadvertiseaspecific/32fromthis/28toanexternalBGPpeer(upstreamprovider)fromthisedgerouter.Icanuseroute-mapsandprefix-lists,todefineaBGPexportpolicytoonlyexportthe/32totheexternalneighborwithoutissue.WhereIgetstuckisgettingthe/32intomyroutetable,essentiallyIneedtode-aggregatethe/28downtoa/32?Isthereanaccepted"bestpractice"wayofdoingthis?Apologiesifthisisastupidquestion,I'veneverrunintothisissuebefore,andGoogleisn'tgivingmemuchhelp.CheersLiamFarr

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Advertising /32 externally via BGP
by Liam Farr 22 Nov '13

22 Nov '13

Hi, I've run into a bit of a dumb problem, hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction. I receive a route to a /28 from a member of my BGP confederation, (the /28 is on a directly connected interface of this router) via BGP to one of my edge routers, and I wish to advertise a specific /32 from this /28 to an external BGP peer (upstream provider) from this edge router. I can use route-maps and prefix-lists, to define a BGP export policy to only export the /32 to the external neighbor without issue. Where I get stuck is getting the /32 into my route table, essentially I need to de-aggregate the /28 down to a /32? Is there an accepted "best practice" way of doing this? Apologies if this is a stupid question, I've never run into this issue before, and Google isn't giving me much help. Cheers Liam Farr

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Orcon contact
by Geraint Jones 21 Nov '13

21 Nov '13

Can someone from orcin please contact me off list. Thanks

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Thursday's security amusement!
by Tim Hoffman 21 Nov '13

21 Nov '13

This is vaguely operational and fairly amusing - one of our friendly LFC’s might want to sort their…ahem….levels of security fail! https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=inurl%3A%2F%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.ultrafastf… And to keep it on topic - beer! Cheers, —hoff <views do not represent anyone I may or may not work for etc etc>

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The New Threat: Targeted Internet Traffic Misdirection
by Sebastian Castro 19 Nov '13

19 Nov '13

The link below is an article from Renesys about prefix hijacking they've observed. So far until now, those events were not considered as attacks, but "misconfigurations". http://www.renesys.com/2013/11/mitm-internet-hijacking/ We've seen one of those events on our infrastructure, which lasted a few minutes, and it was detected by BGPmon. Is it moment to push RPKI? Topic to discuss during the next NZNOG meeting? Cheers, -- Sebastian Castro DNS Specialist .nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited) desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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Encryption of national/international information
by Juha Saarinen 19 Nov '13

19 Nov '13

Yahoo’s following Google’s example and will “encrypt all information that moves between our data centres by the end of Q1 2004” : http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/67373852814/our-commitment-to-protecting-your-… Would this be permitted in NZ? -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen

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Video about SFQ and uplinks
by Pieter De Wit 17 Nov '13

17 Nov '13

Hey List, A while ago someone posted to this list (I am sure it was....) a link to a youtube video about uplinks and why we should do QoS. I tried searching the archives but can't find. Would someone mind pointing me in the right direction for it please ? Thanks !

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[OT] Racks / routers and switches wanted
by Alexander Neilson 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

Sorry for the off list nature of the below. Sunday beer post as an apology ;-) Off list direct replies please to avoid clogging the list up. Phone calls / txt ok to my cellphone numbers below as I am on the road. Is anyone getting rid of any racks at the moment. I am trying to get hold of 2 or 3 42RU+ racks. Prefer solid outer sides and grill front and back doors (but any racks looked at. I am currently getting ready to drive from Christchurch to Auckland in a ute with a trailer on the back so I have room to collect. South Island is today and north island tomorrow. We will consider purchasing the right racks if people want some money for the racks. Also I am looking for some switch / routing / firewall hardware that people want to give away (out of warranty / out of contract is all good) as I am looking for some test hardware for my home lab to learn on. I will have room in the vehicle and will consider any functional hardware available on the route. I don't have money personally to buy this hardware so looking for give aways only (but I will haul it away) Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Ltd Alexander(a)Neilson.net.nz 021 329 681

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Fibre suppliers
by Alexander Neilson 13 Nov '13

13 Nov '13

Hey list. Can anyone advise a good supplier of fibre patch leads. Single mode is all we care about. We are looking today for at least one LCA-LCA patch lead 5M+ today. But we also need to get stock for various types and lengths in the near future and we are looking for a good quality supplier. Off list replies (or suggestions on list if people think it would be helpful) Regards Alexander *Alexander Neilson* *Neilson Productions Limited* *alexander(a)neilson.net.nz <alexander(a)neilson.net.nz>* *021 329 681*

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NSA, QUANTUM and packet injection
by Juha Saarinen 13 Nov '13

13 Nov '13

Potentially operational content… http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/11/this-is-how-the-internet-backbone-has-… -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen

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[OT] Boxes in Wellington?
by Alexander Neilson 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

Off Topic, so Beer! Does anyone in Wellington have some empty computer / server / large monitor boxes they are wanting to clear out? I am moving this friday and I am a few boxes short. Please message me off list and I will try accept any useful boxes and come collect them. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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So what're people using to label ethernet cables these days?
by Mark Foster 09 Nov '13

09 Nov '13

I've got a project underway with a large amount of fresh-install ethernet cabling and i'd like to 'do it right' with respects to cable labelling. The old does-everything Dymo Label Printer is doable, for a while, but in datacentre environments the labels degrade and fall off eventually, which isn't ideal. I've also used 'kabelflags' before but I would prefer something I can print with a machine, I think. That said i'd be interested in what people are doing, or what they 'should' be doing... ? Cheers Mark.

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Multi-homing without PI space
by Matthew Poole 07 Nov '13

07 Nov '13

A "small company wanting to play big company" question: My employer is investigating options for network redundancy as having a functional internet connection is critical to our operation. We're not in any position to even try applying for PI IPv4 space from APNIC (only using a /28), and are in no way close to being ready to think about going to pure IPv6. Clients push to us, so we need to have functional DNS as well as link fail-over. We also have multiple public-facing servers offering the same services, so moving to *shudder* NAT or some kind of port proxying isn't an easy option (clients' internal bureaucracies to get firewall ports opened, client configuration, blah blah blah). So, my question, what are our operational course of action for multi-homing when becoming an AS on the global tubes isn't on the cards? Cheers -- Matthew Poole "The difference between theory and practice is that practice is easier in theory than theory is in practice"

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APRICOT 2014 call for papers is now open
by Dean Pemberton 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

Hi everyone, We have just released the call for presentations for APRICOT 2014. Please consider presenting at APRICOT, or encourage a colleague or friend to do so. Also we'd really appreciate it if you would help inform members of your local operations community about this CfP. Many thanks! Philip, Mark, Dean APRICOT PC Chairs -- Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies (APRICOT) 18 - 28 February 2014, Bangkok, Thailand https://2014.apricot.net CALL FOR PAPERS =============== The APRICOT 2014 Programme Committee is now seeking contributions for Presentations and Tutorials for APRICOT 2014. We are looking for presenters who would: - Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic; - Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker; - Convene and chair panel sessions of relevant topics. Please submit on-line at: http://papers.apricot.net/user/login.php?event=6 CONFERENCE MILESTONES --------------------- Call for Papers Opens: 1 November 2013 First Draft Programme Published: 6 December 2013 Final Deadline for Submissions: 7 February 2014 Final Programme Published: 14 February 2014 Final Slides Received: 21 February 2014 PROGRAMME MATERIAL ------------------ The APRICOT Programme is organised in three parts, including workshops, tutorials and the conference. Topics for tutorials and the conference must be relevant to Internet Operations and Technologies: - IPv4 / IPv6 Routing and operations - IPv6 deployment and transition technologies - Internet backbone operations - ISP and Carrier services - IXPs and Peering - Research on Internet Operations and Deployment - Thai Internet - Network security issues (NSP-SEC, DDoS, Anti-Spam, Anti-Malware) - DNS / DNSSEC - Internet policy (Security, Regulation, Content Management, Addressing, etc) - Access and Transport Technologies, including Cable/DSL, 3G/LTE, wireless, metro ethernet, fibre, MPLS - Content & Service Delivery (Multicast, Voice, Video, "telepresence", Gaming) and Cloud Computing CfP SUBMISSION -------------- Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be provided with CfP submissions otherwise the Programme Committee will be unable to review the submission. For work in progress, the most current information available at time of submission is acceptable. All draft and complete slides must be submitted in PDF format only. Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for publication on the APRICOT website. Prospective presenters should note that the majority of speaking slots will be filled well before the final submission deadline. The PC will retain a limited number of slots up to the final submission deadline for presentations that are exceptionally timely, important, or of critical operational importance. Please submit on-line at: http://papers.apricot.net/user/login.php?event=6 Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the Programme Committee by e-mail at: pc-chairs at apricot.net We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals. Dean Pemberton, Mark Tinka & Philip Smith Co-Chairs, APRICOT Programme Committee pc-chairs(a)apricot.net

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Off Topic: IEC cable C13 to 2xC14
by Joel van Velden 02 Nov '13

02 Nov '13

Off topic I know, but has anyone ever come across an IEC C13 "jug-plug splitting" cable with two male (C14) ends, the sort of cable you'd want to use if you had two power supplies in a rack but only one power socket available? I'm after a supplier near Auckland. I can source from US but i'm wanting them this week. Cheers, Joel van Velden

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Calling all Mirror Providers
by Daniel Watson 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

Gday Guys I'm setting up a new project today that will benefit a lot of providers out there in the market, I will be creating brand new mirrorlists for all the major repo's out there in the internet If you operate a mirror of any software, I would appreciate if you could take a few minutes to reply to this email with your URL of your mirror. I already am aware of a fair few out there already but i am not aware of them all The way that this will be setup will require you to let me know if your mirror operates only on Australian shores or if you also have mirror's in other locations, Please specify the location of the mirror also. Looking forward to your responses. D.

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Help / Advise tweaking BGP settings
by Alexander Neilson 31 Oct '13

31 Oct '13

Hey All We have recently made some major changes at $DAYJOB with our connectivity to the outside world and our peering. One of the things we have taken on is a 1Gbps APE peering port and Upgraded out WIX port to 100Mbps. While I find often our inbound traffic takes a fairly efficient path (usually - tho $TRANSITPROVIDER seems to cut prepends and possibly even disaggregates some prefixes (tho this could be something hanging around)) our outbound does seem to be less efficient, especially where APE is concerned. I am currently testing an adaption where I only accept shorter prefixes from $TRANSITPROVIDER and a default route (to avoid blackholing) the domestic transit doesn’t have a “default route” option and I want to avoid pushing domestic traffic over International if it only has a long prefix to match and isn’t peered. Would anyone be willing to provide me some tips / tricks / advise / examples of what they do with BGP (or some good resources) that I can use to improve the routing table I use in the network? Also does anyone have NZ Provider looking glass servers (not the NZIX as I know and use them) where I can see how other domestic providers see my announced routes and how it appears to them (so I can make changes and test but also see what I am being seen as)? Thank you very much in advance for any help. Off list replies are welcomed and possibly better to avoid clogging up the list if people think this is too basic a request for here. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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NZNOG 2014 - Registrations now open
by Neil Fenemor 31 Oct '13

31 Oct '13

NZNOG 2014 - registrations open ============================= Registrations for New Zealand's pre-eminent technical Internet networking conference - NZNOG 2014 - are now open. Hosted by the New Zealand Network Operators Group, NZNOG 2014 is the country's only technical networking conference, and features a host of plenary sessions, practical workshops and tutorials. Spaces are limited, so register now and join your fellow ICT specialists for a feast of information sharing, technical up-skilling and professional networking. To register, please visit http://www.nznog.org/register What: NZNOG 2014 When: 27 - 31 January 2014 Where: Rutherford Hotel, Nelson ---- Conference structure NZNOG 2014 incorporates two three-day practical workshops, a one-day of technical tutorials and the conference-proper. Workshops: 27 to 29 January, 2014 Network Infrastructure Security BGP routing Tutorial: 29 January, 2014 Mikrotik 1-day workshop OpenDNSSEC Fundamentals SDN/OpenFlow Installation Conference-proper: 30 - 31 January, 2014 Confirmed so far: International Speaker Tom Paseka (CloudFlare) "NZ Perspectives from a global CDN" Geoff Huston (APNIC) "Measuring DNSSEC" Jamie Baddeley (Citylink) "NZIX2/Citylink SDN Gerard Creamer (Netspace Services) "Experiences with dual A records vs anycasting" Barry Brailey (.nz) DNSSEC programme Sam Russell (REANNZ) "Building better Skype with WebRTC, SIP, and ENUM Jamie Horrell "Statistical methods for Network Analysis" A range of pricing options are available, including a heavily-discounted student registration: Main conference (waged) - $150.00 Main conference (student) - $25.00 Practical workshop - $150.00 Practical workshop (student) - $25.00 Tutorial - $25.00 ---- More information More information about NZNOG 2014 can be found at www.nznog.org. For sponsorship opportunities please contact sponsorship(a)nznog.org Cheers, neil for the NZNOG Trustees

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Anycast node swap NZ / UK
by Nat Morris 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Hi, We're looking for someone to swap a low bandwidth DNS server with in New Zealand. We run an anycast setup and announce the same /24 + /48 from a dedicated ASN from multiple locations around the globe. Would be looking for a single CPU with 512mb + 20gb disc running Debian x64, only special thing it needs is a BGP session so we can announce our address space (you only need provide it with a default route, not full table!). We can provide the same in return in the UK :) Cheers, Nat, -- Nat Morris Esgob Ltd http://www.esgob.com

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JANOG 33 Call for Papers
by Daniel Griggs 10 Oct '13

10 Oct '13

Hello, I am sending this on behalf of the JANOG community. JANOG is making a call for presentation until 24th Oct. It is a networks operators group in Japan with 400+ participants at meetings, and + 6,000 mailing list subscribers as of June 2013. Our Meetings are in Japanese but we have had several non-Japanese speakers presenting at JANOG. We are looking forward to your proposals for presentations. Cheers, Shinichi Yamamoto, Chin Sze (James) Yih, Izumi Okutani JANOG Internationalization team for JANOG 33 ----- JANOG 33 Call for Papers ----------- The JApan Network Operators' Group (JANOG) will hold its 33th meeting in Beppu, Japan on January 23-24, 2014. Yahoo Japan will host JANOG 33. We invite presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon-to-be deployed in the Internet. Submissions are welcome via the e-mail at:"meeting-33[at]janog.gr.jp". ABOUT JANOG ----------- A JANOG Web Page in English can be found at: http://www.janog.gr.jp/en/ THE KEY DATE FOR JANOG 33 SUBMISSIONS ------------------------------------- CFP Deadline : October 24 23:59 JST The Program Committee will notify applicants after 8th Nov on their decision about the submissions. HOW TO PRESENT -------------- If you are interested to give a presentation but do not have someone to help you with the language, try consulting us at: "meeting-33[at]janog.gr.jp". Although we cannot guarantee, we may be able to help you on volunteer basis. The detail of presentation guidelines can be found under JANOG 33 Web Page in English. http://www.janog.gr.jp/en/index.php?JANOG33%20Programs Let us know if you have any questions meeting-33[at]janog.gr.jp -- Daniel

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.nz namespace to be flattened!
by Andy Linton 10 Oct '13

10 Oct '13

https://internetnz.net.nz/news/media-releases/2013/New-level-Internet-domai…

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Reminder - Call for Papers for NZNOG 2014
by Mike Jager 09 Oct '13

09 Oct '13

A reminder that submissions for presentations at NZNOG 2014 are due in the next couple of weeks. Don't forget that the best local paper will win a trip to APRICOT 2014 in Bangkok, Thailand. As they say, you've gotta be in to win! ---- The NZNOG organising committee invites papers for its 13th annual conference, to be hosted at the Rutherford Hotel, Nelson, New Zealand from 27 – 31 January 2014. There will the three day Workshops 27 – 29 January, a day of tutorials on 29 January with the main conference on 30 – 31 January. The best local conference paper as judged by the trustees in association with the programme committee will win a trip to APRICOT 2014, to be held in Bangkok, Thailand, 18-28 February 2014. So, get writing! Conference objective: The NZNOG conference, workshops and tutorials are a once-a-year opportunity for individuals and organisations involved in Internet operations to meet and share the latest in Internet operations, technologies practises and receive high quality training. The event is unique in New Zealand and attracts technical, skilled individuals with a genuine interest in Internet operations and Internetworking technologies. Submit a paper: Presenters are invited to submit abstracts of their paper for consideration by Monday 21st October. Abstracts should be no more than one page long and provide a summary of your networking-related subject matter. Please note that full slide decks will be required by 18th November. To submit your paper please e-mail: talks(a)nznog.org When considering a presentation, remember that the NZNOG audience is mainly comprised of technical network operators and engineers with a wide range of experience levels from beginners to multi-year experience. There is a strong orientation to offer core skills and basic knowledge in SIGs and to address issues relevant to the day-to-day operations of ISPs and network operators in the conference sessions. Note: The inclusion of a title, bio, topic, abstract, and slides with proposals is not compulsory but will help us determine the quality of your proposal and increase the likelihood it will be accepted. The organising committee will evaluate abstracts based on fit with the conference’s objective and its ability to stimulate lively discussions around the current state of New Zealand networking. The best local paper will be judged by a selection of the trustees and the programme committee. Return flights from New Zealand, accommodation, and conference fees will be covered. It will be expected the best paper is submitted by the winner for presentation at APRICOT. More details on paper submission can be found at http://www.nznog.org/call-for-papers For more information about the conference visit www.nznog.org or contact: talks(a)nznog.org

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Arbor Networks 9th Annual Infrastructure Security Survey
by Sockrider, Gary 08 Oct '13

08 Oct '13

_______________________________________________________________________ Arbor Networks 9th Annual Infrastructure Security Survey Now Open _______________________________________________________________________ Arbor Networks would like to invite you to participate in our annual infrastructure security survey, an important initiative that touches service providers, enterprises, government agencies, universities and other network operators around the world. Please go here to participate in the 2013 survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/FGY6KJD We are requesting that you complete and submit the survey by October 31, 2013. The purpose of the survey is to gauge and report on general security issues, practices, procedures and observations from the industry. All data gathered from the survey will be compiled, analyzed and reported in Arbor's 9th annual Worldwide Infrastructure Security Report which will be published in early 2014. Individual responses will be treated anonymously and no respondent names or company names will appear in the report or accompanying presentations and/or marketing materials. For your reference, our 8th annual Worldwide Infrastructure Security Report, issued earlier this year and based on responses to last year's survey is available here: http://pages.arbornetworks.com/rs/arbor/images/WISR2012_EN.pdf Your industry perspectives are important to Arbor and we value your input. Thank you, in advance, for your participation. With best regards, Arbor Networks

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National Vs International Traffic
by Shane Hanson 07 Oct '13

07 Oct '13

Hello All I'm sure this question has been asked a number of times before but a quick search through the list and a Google pretty much draws a blank. I'm working for a service provider (Mothership) and we're trying to differentiate between national and international traffic. Any pointers? Thanks SHANE lE <mailto:shane(a)mothership.co.nz> shane(a)mothership.co.nz lW <http://mothership.co.nz/> mothership.co.nz lA PO Box 99814, Newmarket lM +64 21 623 903

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Re: [nznog] Speaking of IPv6
by Brad Cowie 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

Hello, I don't run the machine that hosts the list, but figure I should chime in since I can provide the most up to date information. Waikato has a fully working IPv6 upstream and our own prefix (2001:df0:4::/48) we at Wand make good use of v6. The downside is that I haven't seen any other departments on campus adopt IPv6 yet, apart from our HPC group and Music group. list.waikato.ac.nz is a campus-wide service run by our ITS division, I haven't heard much about ITS's IPv6 deployment plans, but I'm not sure that will help much in this case considering our email vendor (postini in this case) doesn't have IPv6 support. I'm pretty sure we'll have to move off postini soon considering Google is planning to close that service down at some point. Hopefully our new email vendor has IPv6 support? Feel free to flick me any other questions on or off list and I'll attempt to provide answers. Cheers, Brad Cowie -- Systems Administrator Wand Group Department of Computer Science The University of Waikato Mobile: +64 27 5888 103 | Office: G.1.32 From: Dean Pemberton <nznog(a)deanpemberton.com> > Date: 2 October 2013 19:24 > Subject: Re: [nznog] Speaking of IPv6 > To: Juha Saarinen <juha(a)saarinen.org> > Cc: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > Aww man thats harsh.... but fair. > > Someone from Waikato how are you looking for IPv6 deployment? > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Juha Saarinen <juha(a)saarinen.org> wrote: > > $ host -6 -v list.waikato.ac.nz > > Trying "list.waikato.ac.nz" > > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached > > > > $ host list.waikato.ac.nz > > list.waikato.ac.nz has address 130.217.66.63 > > list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 400 > > list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b2.psmtp.com. > > list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 100 > > list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a1.psmtp.com. > > list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 200 > > list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a2.psmtp.com. > > list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 300 > > list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b1.psmtp.com. > > > > -- > > Juha Saarinen > > twitter: juhasaarinen >

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Re: [nznog] "What's the hourly price for a /24?"
by Scott Weeks 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

--- jlaundry(a)jlaundry.com wrote: From: Jed Laundry <jlaundry(a)jlaundry.com> Pardon my ignorance of the APNIC list discussions, but is the point to: 1. allow /24s to be used by different ASes for short periods of time to handle peak demands? I can only think of mobile IP providers in different timezones being a "sensible" example of this. 2. to allow ASes to claim a need for addresses based on short term customer uses? This is an edge case; I've run a couple of events where I needed a /26 for a weekend, which was taken from the provider's existing pool. 3. to mark addresses as leased (i.e. cloud servers) to avoid blacklist hell for the next poor unfortunate soul to use them? (glhf?) ------------------------------------------------------- You forgot 4. to spam. Sorta like hourly rates at a motel... >;-) scott _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Refurb Cisco Kit (inside) in NZ
by Skeeve Stevens 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

Hi, Could some people sell Refurbished Cisco kit in NZ contact me, or someone give me some contacts. I'm hoping for someone who is already in NZ so I can have to deal with the extra costs of import duties, shipping, risk, etc. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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"What's the hourly price for a /24?"
by Dean Pemberton 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

Hi All, The subject line is a question I posed to Geoff Huston years ago in response to us both musing what the price to purchase address space would be. I suggested that if it really got that bad, people would be asking about leasing by the hour rather than buying outright. That time looks to be upon us. While not explicitly allowed, nor disallowed by APNIC policy, IP address leasing is becoming a hot topic of discussion on relevant APNIC lists. Should it be allowed? Should it be disallowed? It it were disallowed would that actually stop it? What mechanisms need to be in place to keep it sane? A 'whowas' server for eg Should someone be able to be allocated addresses under a needs based policy just so they can make money leasing them? Does leasing addresses mean that you no longer need them? Should you be required to return the ? These and many more issues are questions I'd like you all to give me feed back on. This topic will come up in APRICOT 2014 in Thailand. I'd like to know a lot more about what you all think about it before I take the mic. Regards Dean -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To protect and promote the Internet for New Zealand.

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Speaking of IPv6
by Juha Saarinen 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

$ host -6 -v list.waikato.ac.nz Trying "list.waikato.ac.nz" ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached $ host list.waikato.ac.nz list.waikato.ac.nz has address 130.217.66.63 list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 400 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b2.psmtp.com. list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 100 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a1.psmtp.com. list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 200 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a2.psmtp.com. list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 300 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b1.psmtp.com. -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen

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UFB Right Performing
by Jonathon Exley 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

Hi all, Chorus have been developing new UFB service templates through the Right Performing process. The main focus has been on increasing burst sizes to permit better TCP performance, and a corresponding relaxation of the delay and jitter SLA. The latest version has been submitted to the TCF for approval this week. Just in case you don't participate in the TCF, you can download a copy from https://db.tt/RgaqMjYL. If you have any comments/abuse please share them (but don't hassle me about the maths - I didn't write it) [cid:image001.jpg(a)01CEBF8D.35452160] Jonathon Exley Network Specialist Layer 2 T +64 4 498 5602 M +64 27 514 8048 E jonathon.exley(a)chorus.co.nz Level 3, Deloitte House, 10 Brandon Street P O Box 632, Wellington www.chorus.co.nz<http://www.chorus.co.nz> Aon Hewitt Best Employer in Australasia 2013 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________ This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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Wellington OpenStack meet up tonight
by Andrew Ruthven 29 Sep '13

29 Sep '13

Hey, Is it the last Monday of the month already?! Time for the second OpenStack users group meeting in Wellington! For this meetup we'll have Bruno Lago from Catalyst IT doing an overview of OpenStack. He will describe all the core projects and show them working from the Horizon interface, command line tools and APIs. The Q&A session is an excellent opportunity for people to clarify their questions and share ideas with other OpenStackers. Where? Level 3, Catalyst House, 150 Willis St Time? 6pm, presentation starting at 6:30pm The front door locks at 6pm, but we'll have a sign down there with a contact phone number. Due to popular demand, an Auckland group is in the works. Cheers! -- Andrew Ruthven Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | linux.conf.au 2014 | Come swan on the Swan River | http://linux.conf.au

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Re: [nznog] Mail admins for dmzglobal, yahoo and ihug
by Robert 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi Don, I saw you were looking for admins for iHug/Vodafone/TCL. Give me a shout I will be able to help you with that. Regards, Rob. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJSRnBBAAoJELLoL7phT5laZbAP/i2GWO7aR0nhNK2TwTQU2Nyj G+SQl/sCFBsRJvht91Axi30ChUL6yeohxqyqxuEXkyaPe/mVC3VC1QvdNR6Vw72o QpQVKTv5oiCz/D2ZBp6X7BB2CwA4Qfzx+wm0eCX+UdxFwsfMu4aMsIqsCSZ6FQiO i+x6KxAKqUsG/C3i5yPDXcKl848kbuAPpbk1RAaZCGr4kYI/k7DmXYfR+4r9C05L HaIBmHNuqYFHX4zyBM0ZmH9S5R3ZwVQX/WejUWZFnrM01+GPsmeYKra8pIdbd9cH zwiJFW7i7lFl2+UyNU3v/L6Em3ukBL7Z63+nVPj94Mzs9rHXsYNOHMnsRaVP6IqG /1gVNsXtm4Dedfrc6FeC8CBTLfpGpJpiv1V0kJQT/deBXh+TJNFCDEi9MWN3kKww FSzhzIJU6CLZnRTkKO4rPlViID5C6bwiJHAHe2Y/GUMm+TmKWZm+k+8AKu3RXozv OYvOvsQTgfHoUwjbTiGtQP8EGElIB8CAZqze1luHSoJEWWkMLWCP0+wuWw/Gryp/ 7cVKUdm1feFcBzkPsQ8HkGEah5P8r1qQ93WvtkOzJ9XQF3TWUb8XiKYGyCvB+5YR bp5mFdfsOAJWPM6/EkFjCA5WzrS4+6WUZM7wRn+m9+owp0ESgJajy++zCFsRaPn0 O7C8yRlZ0Elw/hDmulOu =6Gqc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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TelstraVodaHug core lag
by Matthew Poole 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

Hi all Breaking with recent tradition and discussing something related to the operation of the NZ tubes... My employer has a TVH business fibre connection, and since around midnight Saturday/Sunday the latency to 8.8.8.8 (one of my Smokeping test subjects) has been consistently > 160ms. mtr tells me: |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | WinMTR statistics | | Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last | |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------| | firewall - 0 | 124 | 124 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 203.167.222.5 - 1 | 120 | 119 | 0 | 2 | 51 | 51 | | ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 0 | 3 | 62 | 1 | |ge-0-2-0-914.xcore2.acld.telstraclear.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 0 | 3 | 48 | 2 | | gi1-2.akl-grafton-bdr2.ihug.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 1 | 2 | 29 | 11 | | No response from host - 100 | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | tu20232901.akl-grafton-core1.ihug.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 129 | 132 | 192 | 164 | | 209.85.249.5 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 176 | 178 | 242 | 200 | | 209.85.250.63 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 176 | 187 | 252 | 195 | | 72.14.232.63 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 181 | 183 | 246 | 199 | | 72.14.233.200 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 189 | 191 | 251 | 213 | | 216.239.48.165 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 179 | 182 | 244 | 197 | | No response from host - 100 | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | google-public-dns-a.google.com - 0 | 124 | 124 | 179 | 183 | 246 | 200 | |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______| The sudden latency jump at akl-grafton-core1.ihug.net kinda leaps out. Is anyone else seeing this? And is this something that the TVH admins are aware of? Please don't make me deal with helpdesk! Cheers -- Matthew Poole "The difference between theory and practice is that practice is easier in theory than theory is in practice"

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Email Evolution: 40 years of changing engines in mid-flight
by Brian E Carpenter 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

May be of interest if in Auckland on 14/10... City campus = University of Auckland Symonds St/Princes St 303-561 = seminar room on top floor of Computer Science -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Computer Science Staff] Advance notice of October's Departmental Seminar - NOTE Occurs on a MONDAY not on regular day!!!!! Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:35:53 +1200 From: Mike Barley <mbar098(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> Reply-To: Mike Barley <mbar098(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> To: <staff(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> CC: Mike Barley <mbar098(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> Advance Departmental Seminar Announcement Title: Email Evolution: 40 years of changing engines in mid-flight Time: Monday, 14 October, 12:00 - 1:00 Venue: City campus, room 303-561 Speaker: Dave Crocker Affiliation: Brandenburg InternetWorking Host: Brian Carpenter Abstract: The first networked email was sent 42 years ago. Surprisingly, messages from the early 70s look similar to the basic text email we send today. In fact, the current Internet Mail service has been in continuous operation longer than the Internet, with such enhancements as addressing, multi-media and security, while growing from a few hundred users to a few billion. Email is the ultimate distributed application and one of the few true peer-to-peer services on the Internet. The talk with explore this history, successful approaches for making major architectural enhancements while preserving an installed base, and current challenges for global email use. Short Bio of Speaker: David H. Crocker is a principal with Brandenburg InternetWorking, developing network-based applications businesses and designing system architectures for them. Over the past 40 years he contributed to early Internet research, led product development efforts and founded several startups, serving as CEO for one. Dave created and operated two national email services, designed two others, and was CEO of a community non-profit ISP. His product, service and standards efforts cover knowledge management, email, instant messaging, facsimile and EDI, as well as Internet security, commerce, domain name service, emergency services, and even some TCP and IP enhancements. He has authored more than 50 Internet technical specification. Dave served as an Area Director for the Internet Engineering Task Force, variously overseeing network management, middleware and the IETF standards process, and has served on the IETF's administrative committee, as well as chairing a working group on reputation. He is also a senior adviser for the industry's Messaging Anti-Abuse Working Group and is on the board of the non-profit Trusted Domain Project. Dave is a co-recipient of the 2004 IEEE Internet award for his work on email. - Mike -- Regards Brian Carpenter http://orcid.org/0000-0001-7924-6182

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1
by Jonathan Spence 17 Sep '13

17 Sep '13

Hi Paul,Thanks for the assistance and pointing out a glaringly obvious problem :S. NS records are all fixed but not seeing the delegation still. Should this happen now automatically or do Orcon still need to do something? I've now learnt how to use the Dig command but can't figure out how to trace it like in other posts. Thanks,Jonathan Jonathan Spence Chief Information Officer Mobile: +64-21-1055634 Work: +64-9-9503306 Web: power-business.co.nz The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipient names. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. Views expressed in this message may notnecessarily be those of Power Business Services Limited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments. ---------------------------------------- From: nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 12:00 PM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: NZNOG Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1 Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz You can reach the person managing the list at nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Jonathan Spence) 2. Re: Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Leo Vegoda) 3. Re: Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Paul Tinson) 4. Re: Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Paul Tinson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 02:08:47 +1200 From: "Jonathan Spence" <jonathan.spence(a)power-business.co.nz> To: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [nznog] Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation Message-ID: <7d59cc8$6fc11687$642d0766$(a)xtracta.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, Google have just started enforcing PTR records for IPv6 addresses delivering to Gmail. Our IPv6 works great with Orcon but having serious issues getting delegation back to our nameservers setup. I have been told a few times that everything is setup on their end but I don't think it is. Our IP space: 2400:4800:4017::/48 is meant to be sent to ns1.power-business.co.nz and ns2.power-business.co.nz. However it doesn't seem to. For example our website is:2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f If I query ns1.power-business.co.nz from my home computer is works fine: -----command----- C:\Users\Jonathan Spence>nslookup 2400:4800:4017:0200:0250:56ff:fe90:082f 60.234.77.213 Server: UnKnown Address: 60.234.77.213 Name: midas.power-business.co.nz Address: 2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f ------ end command ----- However other hosts don't resolve this. When using this tool it doesn't work failing when reaching Orcon's nameserver: http://www.simpledns.com/lookup-dg.aspx Can anyone comment? Thanks, Jonathan ------- output ------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns4.apnic.net (no IP address) -> apnic1.dnsnode.net (no IP address) -> ns3.apnic.net (no IP address) -> tinnie.arin.net (no IP address) -> ns2.lacnic.net (no IP address) -> sec1.authdns.ripe.net (no IP address) -> ns1.apnic.net (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" to IP address 194.146.106.106 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (194.146.106.106) ---------------------------------------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.0.8.4.0.0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns1.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) -> ns2.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" to IP address 210.55.12.2 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (210.55.12.2) ---------------------------------------- Received authoritative (AA) response: -> Header: Non-Existent Domain ----- end output ----- Jonathan Spence Chief Information Officer Mobile: +64-21-1055634 Work: +64-9-9503306 Web: power-business.co.nz The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipient names. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. Views expressed in this message may notnecessarily be those of Power Business Services Limited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments.

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CFP: Sysadmin Miniconf at Linux.conf.au 2014
by Simon Lyall 14 Sep '13

14 Sep '13

Call for Presentations Linux.conf.au 2014 Systems Administration Miniconf As part of the linux.conf.au conference in Perth, Australia in January 2014 we will be holding a one day mini conference oriented to Linux Systems Administration. The organisers of the Systems Administration Miniconf would like to invite proposals for presentations to be delivered at the Miniconf. Please forward this CFP to your colleagues, social networks, and other relevant mailing lists. This is our 8th year at Linux.conf.au. To see presentations from our previous years, see the miniconf website http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/. Presentation Topics =================== Topics for presentations could include (but are not limited to): Systems Administration, Virtualisation, Cloud computing, Devops, Monitoring, Dealing with "Bring Your Own Device", Configuration Management, Backups, Security, Troubleshooting, Buying Decisions, Identity Management, Two Factor Authentication, Web and Email management, Wiki, Clustering and High Availability, Log Management, Spam and Virus Filtering, VOIP, Ticketing systems, Bootstrapping and automated installation, Packaging and Provisioning, Keeping legacy systems functioning. We strongly welcome topics on best practice, new developments in systems administration and cutting edge techniques to better manage Linux hosts and environments. Presentations should be of a technical nature and speakers should assume that members of the audience have at least a couple of years experience in Unix/Linux administration. Format of Presentations ======================= We are now seeking proposals for presentations at the mini-conference. We have openings for: 45 minute double-length presentations 20 minute full presentations 10-20 minute "How we do things" presentations 5-10 minute "lightning talks" Please note, due to the single day available, we expect the majority of available timeslots to be 20 minutes long or less. The 10-20 minute "How we do things" presentations are intended for people to talk about their sites. Information could include: Servers, talks, tools, people and roles, experiences, software, operating systems, monitoring, alerting, provisioning etc. The intent is to give attendees a picture of what is happening in the "real world" and some understanding of how other sites work, as well as offer you a chance to get suggestions on other tools and practices that might help your site. Discussion of "lessons learned" through really trying to use some of these things are especially welcomed. Submitting talks ================ Please note that in order to give a presentation or attend the miniconf you must be signed up for the main linux.conf.au conference. Presenting at the Miniconf does not entitle you to discounted or free registration at the main conference nor priority with registration. Unfortunately the Miniconf has no budget for sponsorship of speakers. Submissions should be made via: http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/proposal14.html Questions should be sent to: lca2014 @ sysadmin.miniconf.org Dates and Deadlines =================== To encourage early submissions priority (both of inclusion and scheduling) will be given to presentations submitted before the 6th of October. 2013-10-06 - Deadline for early submissions 2013-10-13 - Early submissions confirmation 2013-11-01 - Deadline for submissions 2013-11-15 - Confirmation of all presentations 2013-01-06 - Start of Miniconf and 1st day on linxu.conf.au Contact and Questions ===================== Please see our website at http://sysadmin.miniconf.org for more information on the miniconf, past presentations and presenting at it. If you have any questions please feel free to email the organisers at: lca2014 @ sysadmin.miniconf.org

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OT: copper pricing (deadline 5pm today)
by Brian E Carpenter 12 Sep '13

12 Sep '13

Anyone who wants to make a submission, for example commenting on the Coalition for Fair Internet Pricing submission, can do so by email before 5pm today, Friday 13 September 2013, sent to telcoreview(a)mbie.govt.nz. URLs: http://www.med.govt.nz/sectors-industries/technology-communication/communic… http://beehive.govt.nz/release/review-provide-certainty-consumers-industry-0 http://www.consumer.org.nz/news/view/coalition-says-no-to-600-million-inter… Regards Brian Carpenter

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One block of AS Numbers allocated to APNIC
by Leo Vegoda 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of one block of 1,024 AS Numbers to APNIC in September 2013: 63488-63999 Assigned by APNIC whois.apnic.net 2013-09-11 133120-133631 Assigned by APNIC whois.apnic.net 2013-09-11 You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/ The allocation was made in accordance with the Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks to Regional Internet Registries: https://www.icann.org/en/resources/policy/global-addressing/global-polic y-asn-blocks-21sep10-en.htm Regards, Leo Vegoda ICANN IANA

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OT - APNIC / Google Compliance Scam Calls
by Liam Farr 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

FYI Someone is calling through business in Auckland as a "representative" of APNIC. They are asking to talk to the IT Manager of the organization called, regarding "Google Compliance Errors". The scammer's caller ID was 19542831741, which if correct belongs to: <?xml version='1.0'?> <filtermessage> <api_version>1.01</api_version> <prefix>1954283</prefix> <destination> <iso3166>US</iso3166> <country>United States</country> <region>Pompano Beach, FL</region> <short_name>United States</short_name> </destination> <type> <id>FIX</id> <description>geographic</description> </type> <registrar> <name>Intermedia Communications Inc. - Fl</name> <range_status>t</range_status> </registrar> <meta> <lookuptime>-0.496342</lookuptime> </meta> </filtermessage> Cheers Liam

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InternetNZ to host APRICOT 2016 in Auckland!
by Dean Pemberton 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

It's my pleasure to announce that InternetNZ has been awarded the hosting rights for the 2016 APRICOT conference. The conference will be held at SkyCity and Auckland University of Technology in February 2016. The press release at the following link has some more information. https://internetnz.net.nz/news/media-releases/2013/New-Zealand-host-Asia-Pa… Needless to say this is a big opportunity for the networking community within New Zealand and we look forward to getting you all involved before, during and after the event. Regards, Dean -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To protect and promote the Internet for New Zealand.

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IPSec vendor interoperability war stories
by Mark Goldfinch 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Hi everyone, I have a business need to support IPSEC tunnels with many different vendors as we don't get to select our partner's equipment vendors. We've had some recent problems with our existing equipment. At the moment we're look at whether whether software upgrades will help our current situation. While we're doing that we're also looking at what other options exist. I'd appreciate anyone's operational experiences between different IPSec vendors, either on-list or to me directly if you want to protect the identities of the not so innocent :-) Beer for those who can offer their experiences! Thanks, -- * *Mark Goldfinch | Systems Team Leader MODICA GROUP nz: +64 4 498 6000

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Vodafone RBI Tower Cosite
by Jonathan Brewer 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Hi Folks, Anyone want to share their experiences co-siting on one of Vodafone's new RBI funded towers? As I understand there are fixed prices for co-site, backhaul from Chorus, etc.. It should be a pretty sweet deal. If there's anyone from Vodafone listening, I'd appreciate a pointer to a location list, rate card, and application form. I can't find them online. Cheers, Jon

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Xtra mail admin and ptr records...
by Don Gould 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

From:<gillian.halkett(a)nzvanlines.co.nz <mailto:gillian.halkett(a)nzvanlines.co.nz>> SIZE=50696 Tue 2013-09-10 15:27:37: [126020:1] <-- 250 2.1.0 Ok Tue 2013-09-10 15:27:37: [126020:1] --> RCPT To:<jenna(a)christchurchapartments.co.nz <mailto:jenna(a)christchurchapartments.co.nz>> Tue 2013-09-10 15:27:38: [126020:1] <-- 553 5.7.1 <222-154-247-46.adsl.xtra.co.nz <http://adsl.xtra.co.nz>[222.154.247.46]>: Client host rejected: AUTO_[A|X]DSL We aren't accept direct connection not from dedicated SMTP servers. Please use your internet provider SMTP Server. Tue 2013-09-10 15:27:38: [126020:1] --> QUIT We're rejecting mail from nzvanlines.co.nz because they're running their smtp server on a service with a|x|vdsl in the ptr record. I think we've had this discussion on list before, and iirc we decided that we just get providers to update ptr records, but I'm a bit scared to ring L1HD and ask for a ptr change. Is there an admin on list from Telecom who can work with your customer to fix this for as I doubt it's only us it's impacting? D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb)

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Fwd: [PAG] Fwd: [isoc-advisory-council] STATEMENT: Internet Society Responds to Reports of the U.S. Government’s Circumvention of Encryption Technology
by Dean Pemberton 09 Sep '13

09 Sep '13

Given that protocols and standards effect NZ network operators, this seems to be on topic. Seeing how IETF handles these issues and rebuilds trust will be interesting. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alicia Jackson <jackson(a)isoc.org> Date: 10 September 2013 08:03 Subject: [isoc-advisory-council] STATEMENT: Internet Society Responds to Reports of the U.S. Government’s Circumvention of Encryption Technology To: "isoc-advisory-council(a)elists.isoc.org" <isoc-advisory-council(a)elists.isoc.org> Internet Society Responds to Reports of the U.S. Government’s Circumvention of Encryption Technology The Internet Society is alarmed by continuing reports alleging systematic United States government efforts to circumvent Internet security mechanisms. The Internet Society President and CEO, Lynn St. Amour, said, “If true, these reports describe government programmes that undermine the technical foundations of the Internet and are a fundamental threat to the Internet’s economic, innovative, and social potential. Any systematic, state-level attack on Internet security and privacy is a rejection of the global, collaborative fabric that has enabled the Internet's growth to extend beyond the interests of any one country.” The Internet Society believes that global interoperability and openness of the Internet are pre-requisites for confidence in online interaction, they unlock the Internet as a forum for economic and social progress, and they are founded on basic assumptions of trust. We are deeply concerned that these principles are being eroded and that users' legitimate expectations of online security are being treated with contempt. As the institutional home of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), we believe that open and transparent processes are essential for security standardization, and result in better outcomes than any alternative approach. For example, protocols developed by the IETF are open for all to see, inspect, and verify, as are the open and inclusive processes by which they are specified. IETF Chairman Jari Arkko has strongly reiterated the IETF’s commitment to improving security in the Internet, and to seeking ways of improving security protocols in light of these new revelations and security threats. “The IETF has a long-standing commitment to openness and transparency in developing security protocols for the Internet, and sees this as critical to confidence in their use and implementation.” To read more, visit: http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/09/security-and-pervasive-monitoring/. However, the open development of robust technical specifications is just one link in the chain. Security standards must be properly implemented and used. This is a wake-up call for technology developers and adopters alike, to reexamine what we can do to ensure that all links in the chain are equally strong. This is key to helping restore public trust and confidence in the Internet. The Internet has tremendous potential for economic and social good, but unless all stakeholders trust the Internet as a safe place for business, social interaction, academic enquiry, and self-expression, those economic and social benefits are put at risk. To fulfill its potential, the Internet must be underpinned by the right combination of technology, operational processes, legislation, policy, and governance. The recent reports suggest that U.S. Government programmes have systematically undermined some or all of those measures, and that is why we view the revelations with such grave concern. With this mind, we issue these calls to action for the global community: • To every citizen of the Internet: let your government representatives know that, even in matters of national security, you expect privacy, rule of law, and due process in any handling of your data. Security is a collective responsibility that involves multiple stakeholders. In this regard, we call on: •Those involved in technology research and development: use the openness of standards processes like the IETF to challenge assumptions about security specifications. •Those who implement the technology and standards for Internet security: uphold that responsibility in your work, and be mindful of the damage caused by loss of trust. •Those who develop products and services that depend on a trusted Internet: secure your own services, and be intolerant of insecurity in the infrastructure on which you depend. •To every Internet user: ensure you are well informed about good practice in online security, and act on that information. Take responsibility for your own security. At the Internet Society, we remain committed to advancing work in areas such as browser security, privacy settings, and digital footprint awareness in order to help users understand and manage their privacy and security. The citizens of the Internet deserve a global and open platform for communication built on solid foundations of security and privacy. _______________________________________________ Isoc-advisory-council mailing list Isoc-advisory-council(a)elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/isoc-advisory-council

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One block of AS Numbers allocated to the RIPE NCC
by Leo Vegoda 09 Sep '13

09 Sep '13

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of one block of 1,024 AS Numbers to the RIPE NCC in September 2013: 61952-62463 Assigned by RIPE NCC whois.ripe.net 2013-09-09 199680-200191 Assigned by RIPE NCC whois.ripe.net 2013-09-09 You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/ Regards, Leo Vegoda ICANN IANA

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Maxnet/Vocus Colo - sublet
by Skeeve Stevens 08 Sep '13

08 Sep '13

Hey all, I am looking for about 5RU in the Maxnet/Vocus DC. I think they only sell in minimum half racks - which is excessive for our needs. Does anyone have some space they are subletting? I am also looking for a quote on a cross-connect from Maxnet DC to SkyTower. Responses off-list please (via email only!) ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/networkceoau ; blog: www.network-ceo.net The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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Mail admins for dmzglobal, yahoo and ihug
by Don Gould 04 Sep '13

04 Sep '13

Could mail admins for dmzglobal, yahoo and ihug please make them selves known off list please. I have a client who is having trouble getting mail to some of your customers. I've run a trace on our log files and proven that your mail systems are accepting mail from our server on behalf of our client. I can provide mail logs, but I'll do that directly off list. Thanks D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb)

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Kiwicon 7 CFP
by Mike Forbes 02 Sep '13

02 Sep '13

HI NZNOG FRIENDS Just advising the list the Kiwicon 7 CFP is out. We welcome submissions from our networky chums. https://www.kiwicon.org/cfp2013.txt -- On behalf of the Kiwicon Crüe

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Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation
by Jonathan Spence 01 Sep '13

01 Sep '13

Hi everyone, Google have just started enforcing PTR records for IPv6 addresses delivering to Gmail. Our IPv6 works great with Orcon but having serious issues getting delegation back to our nameservers setup. I have been told a few times that everything is setup on their end but I don't think it is. Our IP space: 2400:4800:4017::/48 is meant to be sent to ns1.power-business.co.nz and ns2.power-business.co.nz. However it doesn't seem to. For example our website is:2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f If I query ns1.power-business.co.nz from my home computer is works fine: -----command----- C:\Users\Jonathan Spence>nslookup 2400:4800:4017:0200:0250:56ff:fe90:082f 60.234.77.213 Server: UnKnown Address: 60.234.77.213 Name: midas.power-business.co.nz Address: 2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f ------ end command ----- However other hosts don't resolve this. When using this tool it doesn't work failing when reaching Orcon's nameserver: http://www.simpledns.com/lookup-dg.aspx Can anyone comment? Thanks, Jonathan ------- output ------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns4.apnic.net (no IP address) -> apnic1.dnsnode.net (no IP address) -> ns3.apnic.net (no IP address) -> tinnie.arin.net (no IP address) -> ns2.lacnic.net (no IP address) -> sec1.authdns.ripe.net (no IP address) -> ns1.apnic.net (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" to IP address 194.146.106.106 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (194.146.106.106) ---------------------------------------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.0.8.4.0.0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns1.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) -> ns2.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" to IP address 210.55.12.2 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (210.55.12.2) ---------------------------------------- Received authoritative (AA) response: -> Header: Non-Existent Domain ----- end output ----- Jonathan Spence Chief Information Officer Mobile: +64-21-1055634 Work: +64-9-9503306 Web: power-business.co.nz The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipient names. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. Views expressed in this message may notnecessarily be those of Power Business Services Limited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments.

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DNS hijacking of a few domains
by Blair Harrison 27 Aug '13

27 Aug '13

Hi Folks, Seems like there has been a bit of DNS hijacking happening today - NYTimes.com as one of the targets - you may wish to look at flushing your recursive nameserver caches.. See this dns-oarc post for more details. https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2013-August/010617.html Cheers, Blair

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Colo in SkyTower
by Skeeve Stevens 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

Hey all, I am wondering who is offering Colo in Sky Tower. I am looking at 2 or 3RU. Just feeling out pricing for a project I am scoping out. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/networkceoau ; blog: www.network-ceo.net The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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APNIC 36 - Join the Webcast
by Elly Tawhai 25 Aug '13

25 Aug '13

Hi NZNOG Community, APNIC 36 Webcast is going to start in 15 minutes. There will be two parallel live webcasts. You can access then from here http://conference.apnic.net/36/program#broadcast Hope you can all join the webcast to take part in APNIC 36 sessions from Xian, China. See you online! Kind regards, Elly APNIC

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Deep rack available in Auckland
by Alexander Neilson 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

I am looking for a large (42RU or taller) and deep (900mm) 19" rack lying around in Auckland (or for sale, in stock, in Auckland) We can't wait for standard lead times sorry so looking for someone with an empty one wanting to get it hauled away for free and re used or someone who sells / supplies them based in Auckland holding stock on premises. Looking for off list replies / suggestions / options Thank you all Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Fibre / Connectivity issues - Sky Tower?
by Barry Murphy 12 Aug '13

12 Aug '13

Hey guys Anyone seeing any issues with GGI / Chorus, particularly Sky Tower. We lost Chorus Auckland UFB for 8 minutes, physical interface down. We lost a 1Gb GGI International circuit to one of our clients in Sky Tower but no traffic passing. Also had reports of some other fibre circuits having issues that terminate to Sky & MDR though these have not been confirmed. Many thanks Barry Murphy

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Call for Papers for NZNOG 2014
by Dean Pemberton 08 Aug '13

08 Aug '13

Call for papers - NZNOG 2014 Doing something interesting in the Internetworking space? Submit an NZNOG conference paper and you could win a trip to the next APRICOT meeting in Bangkok Thailand! ---- The NZNOG organising committee invites papers for its 13th annual conference, to be hosted at the Rutherford Hotel, Nelson, New Zealand from 27 – 31 January 2014. There will the three day Workshops 27 – 29 January, a day of tutorials on 29 January with the main conference on 30 – 31 January. The best local conference paper as judged by the trustees in association with the programme committee will win a trip to APRICOT 2014, to be held in Bangkok, Thailand, 18-28 February 2014. So, get writing! Conference objective: The NZNOG conference, workshops and tutorials are a once-a-year opportunity for individuals and organisations involved in Internet operations to meet and share the latest in Internet operations, technologies practises and receive high quality training. The event is unique in New Zealand and attracts technical, skilled individuals with a genuine interest in Internet operations and Internetworking technologies. Submit a paper: Presenters are invited to submit abstracts of their paper for consideration by Monday 21st October. Abstracts should be no more than one page long and provide a summary of your networking-related subject matter. Please note that full slide decks will be required by 18th November. To submit your paper please e-mail: talks(a)nznog.org When considering a presentation, remember that the NZNOG audience is mainly comprised of technical network operators and engineers with a wide range of experience levels from beginners to multi-year experience. There is a strong orientation to offer core skills and basic knowledge in SIGs and to address issues relevant to the day-to-day operations of ISPs and network operators in the conference sessions. Note: The inclusion of a title, bio, topic, abstract, and slides with proposals is not compulsory but will help us determine the quality of your proposal and increase the likelihood it will be accepted. The organising committee will evaluate abstracts based on fit with the conference’s objective and its ability to stimulate lively discussions around the current state of New Zealand networking. The best local paper will be judged by a selection of the trustees and the programme committee. Return flights from New Zealand, accommodation, and conference fees will be covered. It will be expected the best paper is submitted by the winner for presentation at APRICOT. More details on paper submission can be found at http://www.nznog.org/call-for-papers For more information about the conference visit www.nznog.org or contact: talks(a)nznog.org

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Call for NZNOG 2014 Programme Committee participants
by Dean Pemberton 08 Aug '13

08 Aug '13

Afternoon everyone, The NZNOG 2014 Programme Committee is responsible for the solicitation and selection of suitable presentation and tutorial content for the NZNOG 2014 conference (www.nznog.org) The NZNOG Trustees selects a new Programme Committee each year and is now seeking nominations from the community. Eligible PC candidates are those who have attended NZNOG conferences in the recent past, have broad technical knowledge of Internet operations, and have reasonable familiarity with the format of NZNOG conferences. Having constructive opinions and ideas about how the programme content might be improved is of high value too. PC members are expected to work actively to solicit content for the event and review submissions for technical merit. The PC will meet by regular conference calls, during the months prior to the event. If you are interested in joining the PC send a brief note to "trustees at nznog.org". The note should include affiliation (if any) and contact details (including e-mail address), and a brief description of why you would make a good addition to the PC. PC members receive complimentary registration for the event. The NZNOG Trustees will accept nominations received by the end of Friday 30th August, 2013, and will announce the new PC shortly thereafter. Many thanks! NZNOG Trustees

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Policy Proposals at APNIC36
by Dean Pemberton 07 Aug '13

07 Aug '13

Hi all, There are currently 3 policies for consideration at the APNIC 36 meeting Xi'an at the end of August. They are: prop-108 Suggested changes to the APNIC Policy Development Process prop-107 AS number transfer policy proposal prop-105 Distribution of returned IPv4 address (Modification of prop-088) I'll go through briefly what the proposals and where appropriate what I think about them. I'm going to be one of the NZers at the meeting, if there is a point of view that you'd like me to keep in mind during the discussion there then just drop me a line. Regards, Dean prop-108 Suggested changes to the APNIC Policy Development Process ----- Proposed by Dean Pemberton[1] and Izumi Okutani (JPNIC) This proposal seeks to clarify a set of 3 issues with the current PDP which were highlighted during the last meeting in Singapore. The issues are: **Timing Requirements for the Policy-SIG chairs to announce consensus** in the Open Policy Meeting (OPM)** At the moment the Chair calls for consensus on proposals during the OPM and then moves to immediately gauge if consensus has been reached. Due to the nebulous nature of gauging consensus, the Chairs have expressed a desire to be allowed an opportunity to discuss among themselves if consensus has been reached. This proposal seeks to give them this ability as long as a determination on consensus is delivered before the end of the OPM. **Requiring for consensus to be called and demonstrated at the AMM** A historical artefact from the days when there were multiple SIGs within APNIC all producing policy requires that proposals not only gain consensus at their individual OPMs, but also again when the whole membership comes together a day later at the APNIC Members Meeting. This was done to ensure that if there were conflicting policies produced by two SIGs at the same meeting, this would become obvious during the second call for consensus at the AMM and resolved. Now that the Policy-SIG is the only policy-generating body within APNIC, this is no longer necessary and creates confusion as to why a second consensus call is required. This proposal seeks to remove the requirement for a second call for consensus at the AMM unless the SIG Chair deems that it is necessary for any reason. **The length of the required comment period for successful policy proposals after the AMM** Once a policy proposal has gained consensus at the OPM/AMM, it is returned to the mailing list for a comment period lasting 8 weeks. This was historically to allow members not at the OPM/AMM to contribute on the mailing list. In practice there is little to no comment during this time, with all comment on a proposal happening before the OPM. This has the effect of delaying any policy implementations for 8 weeks. This proposal seeks to shorten this comment period to a minimum of 2 weeks unless the SIG Chair deems that it should be longer. Pros: Streamlines the process and removes some of the things which make the PDP a pain Cons: Some members may feel that it gives the Policy-SIG power to implement policy without AMM oversight. In practice this isn't the case as the APNIC exec council has the final decision on policy introduction. prop-107 AS number transfer policy proposal ----- Proposed by Tomohiro Fujisaki There have been a lot of policies dealing with the transfer of IPv4 addresses as RIRs reached exhaustion. What has not been dealt with however are any policies around transferring AS numbers either between APNIC members, or between APNIC members and members of other RIRs. While this is not a huge problem in terms of demand (actual numbers are hard to get, but I’ve been told there are a non-zero number of applicants), it would be good to close this gap in current policy. Generally I'm supportive. Pros: Makes a level playing field between AS numbers and other IP resources in relation to transfer policy Cons: More policy for an area which doesn’t have a significant demand. prop-105 Distribution of returned IPv4 address (Modification of prop-088) ----- Proposed by Tomohiro Fujisaki This one is a bit more contentious. At present APNIC is operating under a policy of only giving a single block of 1024 IPv4 addresses out to any existing or new members. This is basically because they are all gone. Once you get this special last block (being called a 'last slash-8 block') you can never get any more IPv4 addresses. The thing is... IANA has a few more numbers which they can give out. These are dregs which other people have given back to IANA and they are preparing to hand them out to the RIRs. So the question is, what should APNIC do with those addresses? There aren’t THAT many of them (probably about 4 million, but don't quote me), certainly not enough to go back to the old way of allocating them (they would last less than a few months). Should they just be placed into the current pool and treated the same as the 'last slash-8' addresses, or, as this proposal suggests, should APNIC members be allowed a second bite at the cherry? This policy proposes that members be allowed one allocation from the 'last slash-8' and then an additional allocation from any addresses returned by IANA. Opinion is divided here. Some feel that it gives people one last hope for IPv4 when they should be concentrating on deploying IPv6, while others say that they need just a few more addresses to tide them over. Still others say that it should only be available to developing nations or organisations with small allocations already. I'm on the fence here, but I think that the framework we would need to put in place to administer this would outweigh the benefit gained from offering another allocation to members. I'm currently in favour of just putting them in the existing pool and carrying on as we do today. I’ll be meeting with the author in Xi’an to see if there is any convincing argument the other way. If anyone has any feedback on this one let me know. Pros: Gets addresses out to people who need them Cons: Gives an inaccurate impression that there are any more IPv4 addresses left. People should be moving their large IP address demands to IPv6 [1] While I have strived for balance in this assessment, readers should be aware that I am a co-author of the proposal. -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To protect and promote the Internet for New Zealand.

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smilecity.co.nz routing issue
by Alexander Neilson 06 Aug '13

06 Aug '13

Hi Everyone Can anyone on here (or someone from smilycity ops) contact me please. >From inside our network I am seeing trace routes like this: Serenity:Dude alexander$ traceroute smilecity.co.nz traceroute to smilecity.co.nz (202.177.214.122), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 172.31.2.1 (172.31.2.1) 0.510 ms 0.331 ms 0.295 ms 2 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.456 ms 0.381 ms 0.306 ms 3 113.197.96.18 (113.197.96.18) 3.943 ms 3.854 ms 4.531 ms 4 103.9.216.18 (103.9.216.18) 10.741 ms 10.409 ms 10.276 ms 5 103.9.216.17 (103.9.216.17) 10.374 ms 10.706 ms 10.324 ms 6 203.167.223.89 (203.167.223.89) 16.319 ms 15.262 ms 16.715 ms 7 ge-0-2-0-914.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net (203.98.42.17) 15.760 ms 11.881 ms 20.355 ms 8 * unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.37) 21.230 ms 16.681 ms 9 i-0-0-4-1.sydo-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.142.149) 40.901 ms 46.391 ms 39.776 ms 10 tengige0-1-0-11.oxf-gw1.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.165) 37.536 ms 38.606 ms 40.730 ms 11 bundle-ether2.oxf-gw2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.86) 39.208 ms 45.322 ms 38.338 ms 12 bundle-ether1.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.89) 37.451 ms 43.868 ms 42.258 ms 13 10gigabitethernet7-1.chw45.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.20.183) 44.120 ms 37.368 ms 45.299 ms 14 equini3.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.117.214) 46.450 ms 43.879 ms 38.092 ms 15 ge-3-2.br103.sy1.ap.equinix.com (27.111.240.158) 41.385 ms 37.662 ms 40.540 ms 16 ge-3-1.br101.sy1.ap.equinix.com (202.177.217.181) 45.515 ms 37.164 ms 48.858 ms 17 * * * 18 * * * ^C Serenity:Dude alexander$ traceroute smilecity.co.nz traceroute to smilecity.co.nz (202.177.214.122), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 172.31.2.1 (172.31.2.1) 0.536 ms 0.325 ms 0.363 ms 2 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.438 ms 0.451 ms 0.451 ms 3 113.197.96.18 (113.197.96.18) 3.944 ms 4.262 ms 4.055 ms 4 103.9.216.18 (103.9.216.18) 10.531 ms 10.460 ms 10.452 ms 5 103.9.216.17 (103.9.216.17) 10.377 ms 10.452 ms 10.407 ms 6 203.167.223.89 (203.167.223.89) 12.253 ms 19.681 ms 11.798 ms 7 ge-0-2-0-914.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net (203.98.42.17) 11.325 ms 12.228 ms 17.588 ms 8 unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.37) 12.124 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.41) 16.676 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.37) 17.402 ms 9 * i-0-0-4-1.sydo-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.142.149) 37.856 ms 38.422 ms 10 tengige0-1-0-11.oxf-gw1.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.165) 40.765 ms 41.609 ms 39.188 ms 11 bundle-ether2.oxf-gw2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.86) 39.683 ms 40.859 ms 39.406 ms 12 bundle-ether1.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.89) 37.026 ms 41.156 ms 44.457 ms 13 10gigabitethernet7-1.chw45.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.20.183) 38.273 ms 38.520 ms 37.169 ms 14 equini3.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.117.214) 43.372 ms 42.876 ms 40.542 ms 15 ge-3-2.br103.sy1.ap.equinix.com (27.111.240.158) 50.179 ms 49.605 ms 48.397 ms 16 ge-3-1.br101.sy1.ap.equinix.com (202.177.217.181) 50.201 ms 47.475 ms 54.071 ms 17 * * * 18 * * * ^C However from kcbbs.gen.nz trace route tool I see: traceroute to smilecity.co.nz (202.177.214.122), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 f0-1-0-15-c7507-1.kc.net.nz (202.27.217.193) 0.608 ms 0.552 ms 1.452 ms 2 domr1.kci.net.nz (202.27.217.135) 0.739 ms 0.873 ms 0.678 ms 3 vocus1.ape.nzix.net (192.203.154.123) 1.047 ms 1.005 ms 0.983 ms 4 ten-0-2-0-400.bdr01.akl01.akl.VOCUS.net.au (114.31.202.43) 24.834 ms 25.714 ms 25.57 ms 5 ten-0-1-0-0.cor01.alb01.akl.VOCUS.net.nz (114.31.202.86) 25.069 ms ten-0-1-0-1.cor01.alb01.akl.VOCUS.net.nz (114.31.202.67) 26.103 ms ten-0-1-0-0.cor01.alb01.akl.VOCUS.net.nz (114.31.202.86) 25.668 ms 6 ten-0-0-0-2.cor03.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (114.31.199.116) 25.569 ms 25.356 ms 25.368 ms 7 ten-0-1-0-3.cor01.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.225) 25.556 ms ten-0-5-0-1.cor01.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.118) 24.679 ms ten-0-1-0-3.cor01.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.225) 25.096 ms 8 ge-0-0-0.bdr02.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.78) 24.974 ms ip-123.72.45.175.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.123) 24.761 ms ge-0-0-1.bdr02.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.80) 24.471 ms 9 ip-194.73.45.175.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.73.194) 26.621 ms 38.67 ms 25.987 ms 10 xe-0-1-1.gw101.sy1.ap.equinix.com (27.111.240.144) 26.464 ms 25.811 ms 25.527 ms 11 ge-3-2.br101.sy1.ap.equinix.com (27.111.240.154) 31.744 ms 26.245 ms 26.222 ms 12 202.177.214.66 (202.177.214.66) 26.129 ms 25.577 ms 26.983 ms 13 202.177.214.122 (202.177.214.122) 26.725 ms 25.909 ms 25.476 ms and down for everyone or just me tells me its up for others. We don't have a vocus pipe for me to re route though or test from this location. This has been happening for a while and is not a new issue today. traffic is coming from 113.197.96.0/22 I will be raising it with Telstra NOC but as the loss seems to happen inside Equinix I wondered if anyone from smile city themselves may be able to help Will be cross posted to AUSNOG re: equinix Off list replies welcomed. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Commsday: New NSA training deck reveals servers in ANZ
by Skeeve Stevens 01 Aug '13

01 Aug '13

Hey all, I haven't seen any discussion on AUSNOG/NZNOG about the details revealed in the XKeyscore presentation ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/jul/31/nsa-xkeyscore-prog… ). If, as expected, more revelations and details emerge, then there might be ISPs and carriers in the ANZ region who are complicit in assisting in this programme... In Australia I am expecting the Internet Society in Australia, the Australian Privacy Foundation, the EFA, and others to be having something to say about this. This is from 2008... I'd hate to think to what extent their capabilities are now. Discussion? ;-) ----- New NSA training deck reveals servers in ANZ A NSA presentation newly leaked by former government employee Edward Snowden detailing a global online surveillance system clearly shows infrastructure inside the borders of Australia and New Zealand. According to a map shown in the 2008 training presentation on a program called XKeyscore, there are at least four surveillance nodes in Australia and at least one in New Zealand. The actual map does not specify the exact location of the nodes, but they roughly correspond to coordinates near Darwin, Perth, Sydney, and Alice Springs. The document also explicitly names Australia and New Zealand, along with Canada and Great Britain in its footnotes although their exact roles remained unclear. At the time the presentation was created, XKeyscore covered “approximately 150 sites” and operated “over 700 servers.” According to the presentation, XKeyscore used the servers to gather data on internet activity by users. The data is then catalogued by different variables, including phone numbers, email addresses, log ins and user activity through the use of metadata tables. Once indexed, the information is searchable by NSA operatives via different parameters, such as geography, encryption, language, and even web searches, the material asserted. The author of the presentation said XKeyscore has led to the arrest of 300 terrorists. But Australia’s Pirate Party, which has put forth two candidates for Senate in Queensland and New South Wales, warns the revelation could have far wider implications for Australians. “The implications of all these revelations are troubling and it should concern all Australians that Australian spy agencies may be using US surveillance programs and information-sharing agreements to bypass local restrictions and safeguards,” the Pirate Party said in a release. “As Australians, the US agencies see us as ‘foreign’ and thus not even the minimal safeguards that apply to US citizens would apply to Australians under these programs.” Tony Chan ----- Remember... Read it first in Commsday - www.commsday.com.au - Subscribe today. .Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/networkceoau ; blog: www.network-ceo.net The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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Inaugral Meeting of the NZ OpenStack Users Group
by Andrew Ruthven 29 Jul '13

29 Jul '13

Hey, A bunch of us who are working with OpenStack in New Zealand are putting together a users group. If you're working with or on OpenStack, or even if you just want to, then we'd love to hear from you. What is OpenStack? OpenStack is a global collaboration of developers and cloud computing technologists producing the ubiquitous open source cloud computing platform for public and private clouds. The project aims to deliver solutions for all types of clouds by being simple to implement, massively scalable, and feature rich. The technology consists of a series of interrelated projects delivering various components for a cloud infrastructure solution. [0] The first meeting is to determine where everyone is at with OpenStack. Do you have a 3 node or a 10,000 node cluster*[1]? Are you a core developer on an OpenStack project, or do you want to be? (Does that thought terrify you? That's okay as well.) >From this initial meeting we'd like to work out what topic areas are of interest to the larger group, and who is willing to talk about their areas of interest. Practical details: When: 6pm on 26 August Duration: Probably an hour and a half Website: http://www.meetup.com/New-Zealand-OpenStack-User-Group Location: Level 3 Catalyst House 150 Willis Street Wellington The front door of Catalyst House locks at 6pm, there'll be a sign on the door with someones' phone number on it. There'll be beer, non-beer and nibbles. [2] Cheers! [0] Pinched from http://www.openstack.org [1] You don't need to have a cluster to come along, that's okay, we can help there as well. [2] Thank you to Catalyst IT for sponsoring this event. -- Andrew Ruthven, Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | linux.conf.au 2014 | Come swan on the Swan River | http://lca2014.linux.org.au -- Andrew Ruthven, Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | linux.conf.au 2014 | Come swan on the Swan River | http://lca2014.linux.org.au

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Want to go to Bali?
by Dean Pemberton 24 Jul '13

24 Jul '13

Hi all, I wanted to make sure you know that applications are open for InternetNZ fellowships to attend the Global Internet Governance Forum (IGF) to be held in Bali, Indonesia 21-25 October 2013. About the IGF: The IGF is the global multistakeholder Internet event, which brings together people from all over the world to talk about Internet issues and policy. Find out more here: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/aboutigf Regional and national IGF initatives, such as our very own event NetHui, are ideal to feed into the global event. InternetNZ is keen to encourage the Internet community to attend, especially as this year's IGF is relatively close to us, in the Asia-Pacific region, being held in Bali Indonesia. Find out more about the event here: http://igf2013.or.id/ What's on offer: These fellowships are designed to enable NetHui participants and the wider Internet Community to join in the discussions and proceedings this year in Bali. InternetNZ is seeking to award Fellowships across the wide range of interests and topics under discussion at the IGF. InternetNZ will provide fellowship funding to up to 4 New Zealanders to attend. Fellowship funding is limited to no more than $2,500, which will probably require some additional funding to be secured or provided by the applicant. Applications close tomorrow 26 July so get an application quick if you are interested! https://internetnz.net.nz/content/InternetNZ-IGF-Bali-Fellowships -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To protect and promote the Internet for New Zealand.

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Global IPv6 Deployment Survey- Still Open for Participation
by Elly Tawhai 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

________________________________________________________________________ Global IPv6 Deployment Survey ________________________________________________________________________ Hi NZNOG Community, The 2013 Global IPv6 Deployment Survey is still open for participation to Wednesday, 31 July. Please take a few minutes to complete the survey at: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2013 The purpose of the survey is to better understand what can be done to increase IPv6 adoption in the Asia Pacific region and worldwide. We appreciate your time and interest in completing this survey. If you have any questions concerning the survey, please send an email to: info(a)gnksconsult.com Kind regards, Elly APNIC

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★ Nznog, Jonas Bergler left a message for you
by Blendr 19 Jul '13

19 Jul '13

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Simon Hackett talks about Australia's NBN
by Andy Linton 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

This was posted on the PICISOC list. NBN ~= UFB? If you've got a spare 20 minutes, this is worth a read and a watch: http://simonhackett.com/2013/07/17/nbn-fibre-on-a-copper-budget/

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iSky
by Jesse Archer 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

Anyone from Sky TV NOC on this list? We've got users on our new network reporting they can't use iSky services. We'd like to find a solution so if you are from Sky TV NOC or can point me towards someone who can help, that would be great.

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DNS Specialist position available at NZRS
by Sebastian Castro 16 Jul '13

16 Jul '13

Hi: I'll be leaving my position as DNS Specialist to move into Technical Research within NZRS, opening up a vacant. An updated draft of the job description is attached. If you have any questions about the role, feel free to contact me privately. If you see yourself as the right fit and want to talk about the hiring process, please contact our CEO, Jay Daley(jay(a)nzrs.net.nz) Cheers, -- Sebastian Castro DNS Specialist .nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited) desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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OT - 1/3 Rack Cabinet Manufacturers
by Liam Farr 12 Jul '13

12 Jul '13

Hi, Can anyone recommend a Manufacturer of 1/3 (think 12 RU ish) rack cabinets that has NZ distribution? Particularly ones that are solid enough to be stacked / bolted together? (Not the wall mount type). So far I have just found the Eaton (Wright Line) Vantage range, but I don't believe there is local stock. Cheers Liam

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Off List Replies Please: Quotes for IP Transit
by Alexander Neilson 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

Slightly early for Beer O'clock but, Beer We have reached the cap of our existing IP Transit capabilities and have requesting pricing and lead time from our existing provider for increased capacity. If anyone on list is providing IP Transit and can handover to us in SkyTower L48 we would be interested in seeing price per Mbps for Domestic and also for International. This is a pricing comparison as we are very happy with the service level of our existing provider. Price advantage would need to be substantial to more or possibly a backup feed etc. Please can any replies be sent directly to me and not to the list. Simply posted here to invite to treat. Looking for pricing in the few 100's of Mbps each of Domestic and International transit. Thank you Now back to the regular Beer Schedule (I mean intense discussions of network operations) Regards Alexander

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Douglas Englebart - inventor of the mouse
by Richard Naylor 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/07/03/the-inventor-of-…

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4th Global IPv6 Deployment Survey
by Dean Pemberton 01 Jul '13

01 Jul '13

Hi All, The 4th Global IPv6 Deployment Survey is open and will collect information until July 31st The survey is available at https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2013 and just to save people from having to goto the page to read about it here is the blurb: --------------- We are conducting the 4th Global IPv6 Deployment Survey between 1 July 2013 - 31 July 2013. Results will be compared with the results of the earlier Global Surveys, which will help to better understand the developments with regards to IPv6 preparedness and deployment. This survey is designed by GNKS Consult BV in collaboration with TNO and the Regional Internet Registries, based on a design originally by ARIN/CAIDA in 2008, and has been carried out in 2009 with the support of RIPE NCC and APNIC, and globally, with support from the African Network Information Center (AFRINIC), the American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN), the Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC), the Latin American and Caribbean Internet Addresses Registry (LACNIC) and RIPE NCC , in 2010, 2011 and 2012. The 2013 survey is supported by the EU IPv6 Observatory project (for more information see http://www.ipv6observatory.eu/) In 2012 more than 90% of respondents indicated they would be willing to participate again, this year. The survey is secure and GNKS Consult will keep all data confidential. The data will be used for analysis on IPv6 deployment by ISPs and other stakeholders in the RIR communities around the world, and only presented in summary form. The data will be made available for analysis to the RIRs as well under this same confidentiality clause. It will take about 15 minutes to fill in the survey. We appreciate your time in taking this survey. The results will be made available via the websites of the NRO, the participating RIRs and http://www.gnksconsult.com. For questions or remarks, please send an email to info(a)gnksconsult.com.

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Tools found at Sky Tower
by Simon Paterson 23 Jun '13

23 Jun '13

Hi, While at Sky Tower today, I noticed a small zip-up tool case left on level 48, in a slightly out of the way location. It is still sitting where I saw it. If it's yours, but aren't sure exactly where you left it, reply to me with a description of it, and I'll let you know exactly where it is. Cheers, Simon

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APNIC 36 Call for Papers
by Srinivas Chendi 20 Jun '13

20 Jun '13

________________________________________________________________________ APNIC 36 Conference - Call for Papers ________________________________________________________________________ The APNIC 36 Programme Committee is now seeking tutorials and presentations for the APNIC 36 Conference to be held in Xi'an, China, from 26 - 30 August 2013. We are looking for content which would suit the APOPS Plenary, the technical conference sessions and the tutorials. Key Dates --------- The timeline for submissions is: Call for Papers Opens Now First Round Paper Acceptance 12 July 2013 Final Deadline for Submissions 12 August 2013 Final Round Paper Acceptance 18 August 2013 Final Slides Received 25 August 2013 Submitting Proposals -------------------- http://submission.apnic.net/paper/submit/user/login.php?event=1 Programme Material ------------------ The technical sessions at APNIC 36 will include presentations relevant to Internet operations and technologies. The following topics are examples of possible areas of interest. - IPv4 exhaustion / IPv6 deployment and operations - IPv6 transition / IPv4 prolongation technologies - ISP and Carrier Services - IXPs and Peering - Network security - Access and Transport Technologies - Content and Service Delivery If you have any another ideas or proposals for panel or Birds of Feather sessions, please feel free to submit your ideas via the submission system. If you have any questions, please email the Programme Committee at: program(a)apricot.net For more information about APNIC 36, please visit: http://conference.apnic.net/36 On behalf of: APNIC 36 Programme Committee Co-chairs: Philip Smith, Mark Tinka & Dean Pemberton

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InTAC Conference - Come along, Get Involved, Do Something
by Dean Pemberton 18 Jun '13

18 Jun '13

*Look for the helping opportunity near the end of the message* Hi Everyone, This year, InTAC is being held in Wellington as part of NetHui 2013. You can register online at http://nethui.eventbrite.co.nz. What: InTAC (the Internet Technical Architecture Conference) When: Monday 8 July, 2013 Where: Wellington Town Hall Cost: Free (Registration required) Why should I attend? The New Zealand Internet is like a huge super tanker. The bad news is that it takes a long time to change course if you don't like the direction you're headed. The good news is the earlier you start making those changes the smaller the changes need to make. The InTAC conference will be more than just a collection of technology presentations. This year InTAC will be a collaborative environment designed to focus on outcomes as well as the discussions needed to bring them about. InTAC this year will take a long term view driven by short term actions. The focus of the conference will be around answering the following questions: "What do we want the New Zealand Internet to look like in 5 years?” “What are the 5 actions the industry can perform in the next 5 months to make that future more likely?" Don't miss out on your chance to be part of the technical decisions facing the direction of the New Zealand Internet for the next 5 years. *** Helping opportunity *** I'm also looking for people/organisations to show the attendees a little bit about what they are doing across the next 5 years. To that end if you want to produce me a 2 minute youtube video of any of the following topics, I'll select some to play during the day in order to get attendees heads into that forward looking mode: . What you're up to which has something to do with the Internet (even if it's just a blog to help people find lost cats) . What you need the NZ Internet to provide you (what doesn't it do at the moment that you need it to?) . What you'd be able to provide others if the NZ Internet was just a little different (If it did this, I could save more cats.) . Anything else you think the conference might like to know/hear *** For those keen to stick around for NetHui - being held 8 to 10 July in Wellington - we encourage you to also register for this at http://nethui.eventbrite.co.nz Looking forward to seeing you there. Regards, Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ

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Tender issued for construction of new Trans-Tasman Cable
by Gaurab Raj Upadhaya 13 Jun '13

13 Jun '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I thought this is good development in the context of the discussion on NZNOG a few months ago. http://www.voxy.co.nz/business/tender-issued-construction-new-telecommunica… Excerpt: Thursday, 13 June, 2013 - 09:05 The three telecommunications companies that intend to co-invest in a new submarine cable between New Zealand and Australia have issued a tender for the cable’s construction. Several international submarine cable contractors have been invited to tender for the Tasman Global Access (TGA) Cable and all have indicated strong interest in responding. - -gaurab - -- http://www.gaurab.org.np/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlG7SPUACgkQSo7fU26F3X26HQCfRIrG/QyigTdt1Onfz+e1LLkk 1ogAoJa02TDgQupChaqC9Dm1yHvRdyk+ =r3U0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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IANA AS Numbers registry update
by Leo Vegoda 11 Jun '13

11 Jun '13

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect two changes. LACNIC has returned the range 61440-62463 in exchange for a block composed of two non-contiguous ranges: 61440-61951 263168-263679 Both ranges were allocated today. You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers Regards, Leo Vegoda leo.vegoda(a)icann.org ******************************************* Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: +1 310 301 5800 Fax: +1-310-823-8649 *******************************************

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Fwd: [outages] Open Resolver Project
by Joe Abley 11 Jun '13

11 Jun '13

There seem to be a non-trivial number of open resolvers in the few NZ ASes I just checked. It would be good if there was a concerted effort into shutting them down, or otherwise neutering them so that they can't be effective amplifiers for DDoS attacks. This is last decade's open mail relay problem, except with less spam, more packet love. Begin forwarded message: > From: Jared Mauch <jared(a)puck.nether.net> > Subject: [outages] Open Resolver Project > Date: 7 May 2013 10:52:53 EDT > To: "outages(a)outages.org" <outages(a)outages.org> > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) > > The Open Resolver Project made a mistake in the automation process of the weekly data import. If you're unaware of what it is, I suggest looking at the website - openresolverproject.org > > If you operate a DNS server, or are a network operator, you should check your IP space for Open Resolvers. These are used in DDoS attacks and pose a significant risk to the global network. > > The website has been restored to operation, but please take a moment and check your IPv4 space. > > If you want a report based on your ASN, please e-mail dns-scan(a)puck.nether.net from a corporate e-mail address or something matching the RIR database entry. > > Thanks, > > - jared > _______________________________________________ > Outages mailing list > Outages(a)outages.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

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Re: [nznog] [outages] Open Resolver Project
by Pete Mundy 10 Jun '13

10 Jun '13

If you don't like the answers, don't query the server? > On 11/06/2013, at 9:13 PM, Sebastian Castro <sebastian(a)nzrs.net.nz> wrote: > >> Please please avoid to do this at all costs... I've seen those "clever >> tricks" before and they cause more breakage than desired. Specially >> those deploying v6 networks see those tricks as a pain, because A >> records are rewritten but not AAAA records >

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Re: [nznog] [outages] Open Resolver Project
by Pete Mundy 10 Jun '13

10 Jun '13

I can confirm that Mac OS X at least does this (it only queries the resolvers of your highest priority IPv4 interface as defined by the 'Set Service Order' option in the Network section of System Preferences). No beer required for sharing this feedback ;) Pete On 11/06/2013, at 8:41 PM, Nathan Ward <nznog(a)daork.net> wrote: > If you receive (via DHCP) a DNS server over the wireless network, are modern operating systems intelligent enough to only send queries to that DNS server out that interface?

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3
by Rowan Smith 09 Jun '13

09 Jun '13

Speaking from personal experience in Wellington around 2005-2006, I found Unlimited Potential http://up.org.nz/ a great way to meet people that work around the industry and hear what it's really like on the ground and also what hiring managers look for in a candidate. The most important thing I learned from this experience is not to expect any handouts, but take comfort in the fact that most people are very supportive and willing to hear and share ideas. The hard news to take, is that no matter how good you are, you generally have to start somewhere simple and prove yourself for some years. This is definitely true for larger employers, but the more people you talk to the more opportunities you will discover. Feel free to message me off list with any questions, always happy to use my experiences in helping others on a similar path. Rowan Smith Cheers Rowan On 10 June 2013 12:00, <nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to > nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mentoring Groups (Jed Laundry) > 2. Re: Mentoring Groups (Dean Pemberton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 16:25:29 +1200 > From: Jed Laundry <jlaundry(a)jlaundry.com> > To: Jonathan Robins <jonathan(a)tron.net.nz> > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: [nznog] Mentoring Groups > Message-ID: > <CALYPt1RtG4OttpSUJxbpvVnvLTQ+Mn_JBPJCfP=Lr6yA= > EtYkw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey, > > Nothing that I know of; are you volunteering to organise? > > Thanks, > Jed. > > Sent from a small screen. > On 7/06/2013 4:42 PM, "Jonathan Robins" <jonathan(a)tron.net.nz> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Would be interested to know if anyone is aware of any mentoring groups > out > > there that are targeted at High School leavers to help guide those that > are > > keen to join the telecommunications industry? > > > > Cheers > > > > Jonathan > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > NZNOG mailing list > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/**mailman/listinfo/nznog< > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog> > > >

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Zone and host scanning by NZRS
by Jay Daley 09 Jun '13

09 Jun '13

Hi Sorry no beer here. Once a month we run a scan on the .nz zone to collect some IPv6 stats which are then provided to the IPv6 taskforce. This has been going for a while with no problems reported. We now plan to expand this scanning, partly to provide better stats on the use of DNS, like this above, and partly to help .nz run better. For example by detecting lame delegations and telling our registrars about this. As well as more DNS scanning we are also planning web site home page scanning for a very limited set of data related to .nz. For example finding out how many web sites in .nz use an SSL cert and would benefit from moving to storing details about these in DNS (see the IETF DANE WG for details - http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dane/charter/) Before we expand our scanning we've published a draft practice statement that sets out in detail what we are doing, why we are doing it and how we will do it and we want to hear what people have to say about that. We're not aware of anyone else creating and publishing a doc like this so this is very much new ground. The practice statement is here: http://nzrs.net.nz/dns/zone-and-host-scanning and we welcome comments on it. cheers Jay

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Mentoring Groups
by Jonathan Robins 09 Jun '13

09 Jun '13

Hi, Would be interested to know if anyone is aware of any mentoring groups out there that are targeted at High School leavers to help guide those that are keen to join the telecommunications industry? Cheers Jonathan

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Level One GVT-1000 SFP Media Converter in Trendnet TFC-1600 Fibre Chassis
by Alexander Neilson 06 Jun '13

06 Jun '13

I have a Level One GVT-1000 SFP to 1Gbps transceiver that looks like it should fit inside my TrendNET TFC-1600 chassis system http://www.flickr.com/photos/30026567(a)N04/8975140328/in/set-7215763398094… Top is the Level One and bottom is a TrendNET known compatible (but not useful in this situation) media converter. Has anyone got any experience using this hardware together? if so was is compatible / successful? I can use it stand alone if it won't work but I mainly want to avoid blowing it up. It would be a waste to use it stand alone (and a lot messier in the POP) if I can use the perfectly good chassis already waiting there for me. I will test it and come back with results if anyone else would like to know Off list replies are welcomed. Apologies if this breaches the charter. I had a read and felt it was close enough but happy to accept any feedback. Also if somebody knows of a supplier with in country supplies of chassis / standalone TrendNET and Transition Networks media converters (fixed laser and SFP Types) could they please let me know off list. Regards Alexander

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Re: [nznog] Another Brocade question for my favorite mailing list
by McDonald Richards 03 Jun '13

03 Jun '13

CES/CER can handle 1000 LSPs (lsp tunnels) before they stop making new ones. This can be an issue if you're letting your entire Cisco LDP domain pollute them. MLX would be a good order of magnitude larger but I don't have a specific figure. Have tested and used MTUs of 9000+ for VLL with no issues. Have tested and used MTUs of 4000+ for VPLS with some issues although this is the smaller CES platform and there may have been some feature gap in the Ironware version I was using at the time (MLX will have more features around this). QinQ works fine if you do port mode VLLs. Also have tested it working in a "raw" VPLS environment (port mode again). In case that’s not clear, port mode would be where you have all client ports as untagged. Raw mode every time if you ever want to do inter-op. This will set the VC-type to 5 and indicates that the port is transparent – from memory Cisco have this as a default in IOS. Macca From: Sam Russell <sam.h.russell(a)gmail.com<mailto:sam.h.russell(a)gmail.com>> Date: Tuesday, 4 June 2013 12:05 PM To: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz<mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz<mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Subject: [nznog] Another Brocade question for my favorite mailing list Hi, The interop stuff was a resounding success, and the details are at http://pieknywidok.blogspot.co.nz/2013/06/brocade-and-juniper-interop-ospf-… if anyone is interested. I'm now trying to engineer it so we can add Juniper devices while changing as little Brocade config as possible. Can anyone help me with the following questions: - How many LSPs can a Brocade MLX4/MLX8 handle before it falls over? We have a mesh of 15 chassis, and the output of "show mpls memory" looks like this: Mem-Type Alloc BytesAlloc TotalAlloc TotalFree AllocPeak AllocFail FreeFail LSP 28 25760 369 341 28 0 0 Does this mean that it's full? The documentation is sparse, I'm hoping someone else has gone down that rabbit hole and found an answer for me :) - What MTU are people using for VLL/VPLS? - Has anyone got QinQ working with VLL/VPLS on a Brocade? - Does anyone have a preference for raw mode vs tagged mode for VLL and VPLS? Cheers Sam

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Another Brocade question for my favorite mailing list
by Sam Russell 03 Jun '13

03 Jun '13

Hi, The interop stuff was a resounding success, and the details are at http://pieknywidok.blogspot.co.nz/2013/06/brocade-and-juniper-interop-ospf-… if anyone is interested. I'm now trying to engineer it so we can add Juniper devices while changing as little Brocade config as possible. Can anyone help me with the following questions: - How many LSPs can a Brocade MLX4/MLX8 handle before it falls over? We have a mesh of 15 chassis, and the output of "show mpls memory" looks like this: Mem-Type Alloc BytesAlloc TotalAlloc TotalFree AllocPeak AllocFail FreeFail LSP 28 25760 369 341 28 0 0 Does this mean that it's full? The documentation is sparse, I'm hoping someone else has gone down that rabbit hole and found an answer for me :) - What MTU are people using for VLL/VPLS? - Has anyone got QinQ working with VLL/VPLS on a Brocade? - Does anyone have a preference for raw mode vs tagged mode for VLL and VPLS? Cheers Sam

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IANA AS Numbers registry update
by Selina Harrington 30 May '13

30 May '13

The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of 1 block to ARIN in 2013-05-30: 62464-63487 You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.xml Regards, Selina Harrington ******************************************* Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: +1 310 301 5800 Fax: +1-310-823-8649 *******************************************

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Fwd: [wellylug] Next meeting 17th Jun 6pm
by Hugh Davenport 28 May '13

28 May '13

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [wellylug] Next meeting 17th Jun 6pm Date: 2013-05-23 13:01 From: Hugh Davenport <hugh(a)davenport.net.nz> To: Wellington Linux Users Group <wellylug(a)lists.wellylug.org.nz> Reply-To: Hi All, Thank you heaps for those who came to the social meetup the other week. I caught a few of you there when I finally arrived, and you seemed like a interesting bunch of people. I'm happy to announce that I have scheduled a technical meeting for next month. It will be on Monday 17th of June, at 6pm. The location is Level 3 Catalyst House. The front doors lock at 6pm, so best to come earlier, but there will be a number on the wall to get someone to come let you in. Future meetings will be on the third Monday of every month and will hopefully be pizza and beverages supplied (this one should as well!). I would be interested if anyone would like to present any material, let me know if you would like to. I will send a follow up closer with details of the talks on the night. tl;dr, come to lvl 3 catalyst house 6pm 17th june, email me to speak. Cheers, Hugh

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Juniper and Brocade VPLS interop - any horror stories?
by Sam Russell 26 May '13

26 May '13

We've got a mix of Brocade MLX and Juniper MX chassis on our network and I'm working on getting VPLS standing up between them with LDP signalling (RSVP underneath for the base MPLS). Everything seems okay except for the odd quirk (Brocade can't do OSPF with jumbo frames, Juniper doesn't automatically strip VLAN tags when sending into the VPLS cloud) but otherwise it's standing up. I just wanted to see if anyone else has this sort of setup, and whether there's anything I should be looking for that might trip me up? My logic so far is as long as I don't try and make the Brocades do BGP then I should be safe, is this about right? Thanks in advance Sam

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Global Gateway support details
by Tristram Cheer 24 May '13

24 May '13

Hi All, I'm in need of the GG support number, Google and APNIC Whois is turning up dead numbers. Thanks -- Tristram Cheer Network Architect - Most problems are the result of previous solutions... [cid:image001.jpg(a)01CE594D.F453A780] Tel. 09 438 5472 Ext 803 | Mobile. 022 412 1985 | PO Box 5083, Whangarei, 0140 tristram.cheer(a)ubergroup.co.nz<mailto:tristram.cheer(a)ubergroup.co.nz> |www.ubergroup.co.nz<http://www.ubergroup.co.nz> [cid:image003.png(a)01CE594E.D0F0B480]<http://ubergroup.co.nz/fb> [cid:image005.png(a)01CE594E.D0F0B480] <https://twitter.com/#!/ubergroupltd>

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ISP provided routers
by Mauricio Freitas 23 May '13

23 May '13

So, which ISP is providing Tenda modem/routers to users? >From http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=119152 "I installed a Tenda W150D at a friends place 2 weeks ago and their internet usage jumped from 200-600MB/day to 2-15GB/day." This had default DNS responder, open web administration and telnet visible from the WAN side. Cheers Mauricio Freitas www.geekzone.co.nz<http://www.geekzone.co.nz> www.freitasm.com<http://www.freitasm.com> www.twitter.com/freitasm<http://www.twitter.com/freitasm>

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