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Fibre circulators?
by Sam Russell 23 Jan '14

23 Jan '14

Hi guys, Does anyone recommend a supplier for fibre circulators, preferably with LC connectors? I'd be keen to hear anyone's experiences/horror stories with them if you're willing to volunteer them. Cheers Sam

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Great Firewall of China misconfig; traffic re-routed
by Juha Saarinen 21 Jan '14

21 Jan '14

Somewhat operational, with amusement potential and besides, it’s too early for beer (surely???): http://www.itnews.com.au/News/370324,great-firewall-mishap-reroutes-chinese… Has anyone seen a more detailed explanation as to what happened? — Juha

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Acceptable levels of packet loss
by Matthew Poole 20 Jan '14

20 Jan '14

Been running SmokePing for a little while now, building up a statistical sample, and wondering what's an acceptable level of loss to be seeing through the provider's core, both to targets foreign and domestic and also from the premises to the first hop in the provider's network. Obviously I'm seeing a non-zero level (averages are in the zero-point-something range, but some of the maximums are above 0), so want to know what people consider to be the point where I go from "unreasonable customer" to "customer with a justified concern"? -- Matthew Poole "The difference between theory and practice is that practice is easier in theory than theory is in practice"

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IPv4 Brokering and Availability Announcements
by Skeeve Stevens 19 Jan '14

19 Jan '14

Hi all, I will keep this brief. After many comments to us where people have had to deal with US companies to acquire IPv4, eintellego Networks has decided formalise a service offering IP Brokering. After facilitating and consulting for over a dozen transactions in different countries (including NZ) under the APNIC region - including NZ, we thought it would be good to have a service available locally by someone you know. For more information: http://eintellegonetworks.com/site/ipbrokering/ So, rather than trolling lists when ranges become available or we have a client looking to sell a block, I've setup an announcement list so that I can let interested parties know when a range is available. If you wish to join this list and receive these announcements, please visit: http://eintellegonetworks.com/site/v4announce/ to sign-up. FYI, eintellego Networks has just launched in NZ as a locally registered foreign company to mainly do other business including hardware/consulting and network operations. Also, eintellego Networks is the only APNIC registered<http://www.apnic.net/services/become-a-member/manage-your-membership/transf…>IPv4 broker that is based in the APNIC region (all the other are presently American). Any questions, feel free to let me know off-list. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.co.nz ; www.eintellegonetworks.co.nz Phone: +612 8014 7398; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering

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Do you stream video?
by Dean Pemberton 14 Jan '14

14 Jan '14

Hi Everyone, Due to unforeseen circumstances our usual video streaming company of choice (R2) is unable to stream NZNOG live this year. They are able to record the session and have it available for streaming later on, It's just the live streaming they can't provide. Is there anyone in the community who does this sort of thing and wants to step forward and have a go? Just email krystal(a)internetnz.net.nz and let her know. The provisio is that it has to be drama free and this isn't an opportunity to 'try things out'. If you haven't done this sort of thing/scale before, then you might be best to give it a miss. If no one comes forward, then record-for-later-streaming it is.

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NZNOG 2014 Social Events
by Dean Pemberton 13 Jan '14

13 Jan '14

Hi Everyone. Another conference update. THURSDAY NIGHT CONFERENCE DINNER Conference Dinner on the Thursday night will be a buffet style dinner has been organised for the Thursday night dinner, 6:30pm at the Mercure Monaco Marquette. Buses will leave from The Rutherford hotel at 6pm and return on the hour from 9 to 11pm. There is even a pub across the road called The Honest Lawyer for those who feel the need to move on. http://www.monacoresort.co.nz/ WEDNESDAY NIGHT I've also been asked what the plan is for the Wednesday evening. As it happens, nothing. In the mists of time, Wednesday night was always informally organised. Often involving food from the sub-continent. Everyone split the bill and basically it was Thursday Night Curry on a Wednesday night! Like Christmas in July! In more recent years, a specific spondsor kindly funded drinks and nibbles on the Wednesday at many a well respected establishment. With this in mind we placed the position of "Networking Drinks" on the sponsorship document in case someone wanted to take up the opportunity. So far this year none of our sponsors have indicated that they would like to take up this offer, so we will return to the default informal arrangement of the past. That being said there are options. If you are a potential sponsor who would like to fund an event on the Wednesday night, our events person Krystal (krystal(a)internetnz.net.nz) would be more than happy to talk through the opportunities with you. I'm also told there are some nice Indian places in Nelson http://www.menus.co.nz/restaurants/indian/nelson/ Failing that there are places that sell beer. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=1017353080318029218… Basically at the moment it will be up to people to arrange their own food/fun on Wednesday, but being the well adjusted social people I know you all are, I'm sure this won't be a problem. If we do get a benevolent sponsor come forward to save the Wednes-Day we'll be sure to let you know ASAP. Regards, Dean

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Full Programme for NZNOG 2014
by Dean Pemberton 11 Jan '14

11 Jan '14

Hi Everyone, We've just shuffled together all the great talks we've got planned for the conference. The programme as it currently stands is here: http://www.nznog.org/home/nznog-2014-conference-programme You can download an ICS from the link of the bottom of that page. Don't forget to register. The SDN/OpenFlow Tutorial is now full (Although there is a waitlist, email krystal(a)internetnz.net.nz) but there are plenty of other cool things to attend. Don't forget to register! See you all there. Dean

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Plea for help - Ethernet cables.
by Dean Pemberton 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

So it turns out that the SDN OpenFlow tutorial has turned into a bit if a thing. While it was going to use mainly VMs and simulators, Citylink has supplied 20 mikrotik routerboards for the class to actually configure into an openflow controlled data plane. On ya guys, much appreciated, great NZNOG and SDN supporters as always. What I'm after now however is the around 60 Ethernet cables to hook it all together. If anyone could help me out so that I don't need to buy them that would be awesome. Yes you get then back afterwards. Thanks heaps. It should be an awesome tut. Dean

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Situations Vacant: Senior Network Engineer
by Mark Foster 09 Jan '14

09 Jan '14

Greetings, ICONZ-Webvisions currently have a vacancy for a Senior Network Engineer, to be based at the iWV offices in Auckland. We're looking for an experienced Cisco engineer with experience working on ASR, 2800/2900/3700/6500/7200 series devices, with exposure to the ISP world preferred. Other acronyms you'd be familiar with at a senior level would include MPLS, VRF, BGP, OSPF, QoS, VoIP. CCNP or equivalent experience is the listed minimum qualification. If you are interested, or know anyone who might be, please have them drop me a note ASAP - we're already interviewing likely candidates and will need to make an offer fairly soon. Off-list questions, or expressions of interest, are welcomed in the meantime. Thanks, Mark.

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Want a free NZNOG 2014 conference ticket?
by Dean Pemberton 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

Krystal is looking for one or 2 more volunteers to help with registration and pack up. Duties will be - manning the registration desk on Thursday Morning (8am - 9.30am) and helping pack up gear to be shipped back in INZ on Friday after conference ends (4.00 - 6.00). If you put your hand up then we're happy to comp you a ticket, they may miss a couple of talks - but you should still manage to attend the bulk of the conference. If you're interested then please email krystal(a)internetnz.net.nz and let her know. If there is a huge influx of interest then some advanced algorithm will be used to determine those accepted. =)

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Call for Presentations - DNS-OARC Spring Workshop, May 2014
by Sebastian Castro 05 Jan '14

05 Jan '14

Call for Presentations - DNS-OARC Spring Workshop, May 2014 Next OARC Spring Workshop will take place in Warsaw, Poland on May 10th and 11th, the weekend before RIPE68. OARC is requesting proposals for presentations, with a preference for DNS privacy and confidentiality work and ideas, and DNS over alternative (non UDP) transports. This workshop continues OARC's tradition of having meetings include a strong operational component. Presentations from DNS operators are particularly welcome. We'll also gladly accept talks from DNS researchers, as well as any other DNS-related subjects such as tools, visualizations and data analysis. If you are an OARC member, and have a sensitive topic you would like to present for members-only, we will accommodate those talks too. Adopting practice from other conferences, a section of lightning talks will be added for short presentations. Workshop Milestones * 20 December 2013, Call for Presentations posted * 6 January 2014, Open for submissions * 1 March 2014, Deadline for submission * 28 March 2014, Final Program published * May 9 2014, Final deadline for slideset submission Details for abstract submission are be published here: https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/workshop-2014-05 If you consider submitting a presentation, please let the Programme Committee know in advance to help us organize the presentations tracks. You can contact the Programme Committee: https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/programme via submissions(a)dns-oarc.net if you have questions or concerns. Sebastian Castro, for the OARC Programme Committee (Please note that OARC is run on a non-profit basis, and is not in a position to reimburse expenses or time for speakers at its meetings.)

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CARDIGAN implements RPKI - Cleanliness of prefixes onWIX
by Dean Pemberton 05 Jan '14

05 Jan '14

Hi All, CARDIGAN has just finished implementing RPKI Origin Validation on its WIX peering connection. What this effectively does is finds out if ASs are permitted to announce the IP addresses that they are advertising to the exchange. CARDIGAN then makes a decision on wether to allow invalid announcements to be turned into OpenFlow rules. So I thought you'd all be interested in the state of the prefixes on the exchange. The following table has removed all the routes for which no RPKI information was found. This leaves two conditions: Lines which start with a "V" have a valid RPKI ROA. That means that the AS originating the prefix has been explicitly authorised by the IP resource owner to do so. Likes which start with an "I" have an RPKI ROA which is different to the route seen. This means that the AS originating the prefix has been explicitly disallowed from doing so by the IP resource owner. These are explicit authorisations as the IP Resource owner has had to go to an RPKI trust anchor (normally the RIRs) and request certification of the ASs allowed to originate the prefix (or subnet of the prefix). For most of us (who are APNIC members) this is as simple as logging into the MyAPNIC portal and creating an ROA. APNIC handles everything else for you. Anything that turns up as an "I" on this list, I'm going to be looking at pretty carefully before I prefer into the CARDIGAN network. Anyone with more questions about RPKI, how it works, what it means, how to get it going. Feel free to post/email me. Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path V* 58.28.0.0/16 202.7.1.22 30 0 9439 17435 i V*> 202.7.1.22 30 0 9439 17435 i V* 103.10.233.0/24 202.7.0.190 30 0 9439 132003 i V*> 202.7.0.190 30 0 9439 132003 i V* 103.23.16.0/22 202.7.0.222 30 0 9439 132040 i V*> 202.7.0.221 30 0 9439 132040 i I* 103.23.16.0/24 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 i I* 103.23.17.0/24 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 i I* 103.23.18.0/23 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 i V* 113.197.96.0/22 202.7.0.211 30 0 9439 45831 45831 i V*> 202.7.0.211 30 0 9439 45831 45831 i I* 113.197.96.0/28 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I*> 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I* 113.197.96.32/27 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I*> 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I* 113.197.96.96/28 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I*> 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I* 113.197.96.112/28 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I*> 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I* 113.197.96.168/29 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I*> 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I* 113.197.98.32/29 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I*> 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I* 113.197.98.64/27 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I*> 202.7.0.211 10 0 9439 45831 i I* 116.90.130.16/29 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I*> 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I* 116.90.130.96/29 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I*> 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I* 116.90.135.0/24 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 45641 i I*> 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 45641 i V* 116.90.139.0/24 202.7.0.176 30 0 9439 38477 i V*> 202.7.0.176 30 0 9439 38477 i I* 116.90.139.0/29 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I*> 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I* 116.90.139.8/29 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I*> 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I* 116.90.139.16/29 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I*> 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I* 116.90.139.24/29 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I*> 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I* 116.90.139.64/27 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I*> 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I* 116.90.139.144/29 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i I*> 202.7.0.176 10 0 9439 38477 i V* 118.90.0.0/16 202.7.1.22 30 0 9439 17435 i V*> 202.7.1.22 30 0 9439 17435 i 202.7.0.76 20 0 9439 24006 i V* 182.154.0.0 202.7.1.22 30 0 9439 17435 i V*> 202.7.1.22 30 0 9439 17435 i 202.7.0.168 20 0 9439 i I* 198.48.0.0/23 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 i I* 198.48.2.0 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 132001 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 132001 i I* 198.48.3.0 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 i I* 202.7.4.0 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 23755 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 23755 i I* 202.7.5.0 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 23755 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 23755 i I* 202.7.6.0 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 23755 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 23755 i I* 202.7.7.0 202.7.0.222 10 0 9439 132040 23755 i I*> 202.7.0.221 10 0 9439 132040 23755 i V* 203.119.88.0/23 202.7.1.253 30 0 9439 42 187 i V*> 202.7.1.253 30 0 9439 42 187 i 202.7.1.252 20 0 9439 i 202.7.0.147 20 0 9439 24183 45563 i 202.7.0.147 20 0 9439 24183 ? 202.7.0.128 20 0 9439 i 202.7.0.107 20 0 9439 i

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2821 ipv4 table size
by Bill Walker 30 Dec '13

30 Dec '13

Hate to post this but my google foo is failing me anyone know the ipv4 max table size on a 2821? Would be running eBGP with two peers. Sent from my iPhone

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Fraud Calls
by Davey Goode 27 Dec '13

27 Dec '13

Hi All, I hope everyone is having a good break ! If anyone out there has had any of their customers PBX's hacked recently (in the last 2 - 3 weeks) and have experienced a large call flow to say Somalia or some other dodgy destination id be keen to hear from you, I'm after the destination numbers they are dialling. replies off list would be great. cheers davey

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How often does NZRS root reload?
by Skeeve Stevens 18 Dec '13

18 Dec '13

Hey all, Just registered a co.nz domain and it is registered and visible in whois. But ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: co.nz. 3285 IN SOA loopback.dns.net.nz. soa.nzrs.net.nz. 2013121964 900 300 604800 3600 How often does this server refresh its data? ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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NZNOG 2014 Update
by Dean Pemberton 16 Dec '13

16 Dec '13

Hi Everyone. Registrations have been open for the conference for a while now and I'm pleased to say that they are at an unprecedented level for this time of year. Given that we've only just released the program, thats an outstanding achievement. With some great help from InternetNZ the conference is shaping up to be as awesome as usual. First up I'd like to thank the sponsors who have signed on thus far: Go Wireless - Gold Network Hardware Resale - Gold Vocus - Gold CityLink - Gold GKC - Silver Brocade - Silver Arbor Networks - Silver APNIC - Silver Extreme Networks - Silver Kordia - Bandwidth Sponsor We have more slots open for sponsorship as well as the much coveted Platinum sponsor position. If you would like to ensure that your organisation gets high visability at the event then contact sponsorship(a)nznog.org for a sponsorship pack. We know that the program is an important part of convincing your organisations that you need to attend. This year we've got a wide range of speakers lined up along with some great Workshops and tutorials. Program: International Keynotes: Tom Paseka (CloudFlare) - NZ Perspectives from a global CDN Roland Dobbins (Arbor Networks) - TBA Conference Presentations: Geoff Huston (APNIC) - Measuring DNSSEC Jamie Baddeley (Citylink) - NZIX2/Citylink SDN Sam Russell (REANNZ) - Building a better Skype with WebRTC, SIP, and ENUM Barry Brailey (DNC) .nz DNSSEC programme Jean-Sébastien Fontana (Extreme Networks) - Introduction to TRILL Gerard Creamer (Netspace) - Experiences with dual A records vs anycasting Beatty Lane-Davis (Cyan) - SDN & NFV Michael Fincham (Unleash) - RPKI Peter Gent (MBIE) - 5GHz Wireless Links Jan Jorz (ISOC) - BCOP Project Quintin Russ (SiteHost) - IPv6 deployment in the cloud InternetNZ Update APNIC update WAND update Lightning Talks Workshops: Network Infrastructure Security BGP Routing Tutorials: OpenDNSSEC Installation and Configuration (1/2 day) SDN/OpenFlow Installation (1/2 day) Mikrotik Routing (full day) APNIC Internet Resource Management (1/2 day) We'd suggest you register now. At least this side of Xmas. Flights, Accommodation etc will likely be easier and cheaper the sooner you do it. Better than doing it in a panic in mid January. For more information on how to register, head off to http://www.nznog.org/register See you all there. Dean

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Keeping it local
by Martin Kealey 15 Dec '13

15 Dec '13

I have a question which I'm hoping the NZNOG community can help me with. Within NZ, what is the maximum number of hops from APE to any consumer's interface device? (smarty-phone, ADSL modem, whatever)? Or more pragmatically, let's say the 99th percentile, as in, fewer than 1% of customers are more than X hops away from APE. If this information is already available, I'd appreciate a pointer, otherwise... If you are an ISP could you give me an indicative number of hops from APE to your customers' CPE. If you can include a prefix length reflecting the number of affected customers that would help too. (Ideally the maximum across all your customers, but if you have a few oddball customers with longer paths, just the 99% will do.) If you're an ISP customer and would like to tell me your hop-count to APE (counting from your CPE, not from your computer) and your ISP's name, that would also be appreciated. Replies off-list and I will summarize back to the list. Here's the background: I'm investigating ways of limiting traffic so that it does not leave New Zealand, that can be configured on an application-by-application basis. Obviously if one has an upstream to "global" and a separate upstream to APE or WIX, then it's simple to filter traffic at those egresses. However for the average end-user, it's difficult to get multiple VLANs to their provider, let alone multiple physical links. In an ideal world, one would simply set some QoS bits and your upstream would understand them and do the filtering based on *their* egress, but in practice I haven't heard of any suppliers offering such a service. So I'm looking at DIY options ... In particular, I'm looking at setting the TTL on outgoing packets. We know how many hops it is from "our" hosts to APE, and I guestimate no more than 2 hops from a consumers border device (modem, whatever) to their client devices; So far it looks like setting the TTL so that it's down to 5 at APE will mean most of NZ is reachable, and most of the rest of the world isn't, assuming the international provider is as many hops from me as APE. But I'd really like to get a firmer idea of "how much of NZ will be unreachable given an egress hop limit of X?" (The idea is to find X where the list of exception prefixes is small enough to manage manually, while still blocking the majority of foreign traffic.) What I'd like to find out from the NZNOG community is the distribution of customers at various hop-counts from APE. -Martin

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ISC/F-Root has returned to APE...
by Peter Losher 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

FYI - the Auckland node of F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET has been offline for the past couple of years due to HW failure, access issues @SkyTower, changes with our hosts (contacts and access to said data center). I am happy to report that the node is finally back online and advertising F's prefixes to the APE fabric as I type... So come and send your DNS root server queries locally instead of sending them off-shore. We are AS23710 @APE, so if you don't peer with us already, pop us a note at peering(a)isc.org. Yes, Telecom NZ, I am looking at you. Yes, you... (a guy can dream, even if it is hopeless) ;) There are many folks to thank as ISC could not do it alone including: - NZRS (Jay, Sebastian and Dave) for sponsoring the new server gear. - APNIC for sponsoring the new routers. (sorry to see the old Juniper kit go though) - Sebastian and Mike Jager for dealing with my numerous remote hands requests from the other side of the world. - The Kiwi Internet Mafia (Joe Abley, AJ, Jonny) for their support and access to their contacts to keep things moving. - Vodafone NZ and FX Networks for (now redundant) transit over IPv4 and IPv6. - Our peers at APE that have put up with us for being down so long... :) O.k., commercial over; back to serving packets again. Best Wishes - Peter -- [ plosher(a)isc.org | Senior Operations Architect | ISC | PGP E8048D08 ]

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Web Servers: Dual-homing or DNAT/Port Forwarding?
by Christoph Berthoud 10 Dec '13

10 Dec '13

Hi All, I'm curious to know which of the following methods is more widely used/accepted today for publishing web servers to the Internet. 1) Dual-home the server - place one NIC on the internet and a second NIC on an internal network for administration, or 2) DNAT/Port Forward my external IP to my internal IP 3) Both - Dual home the server onto two private subnets (external/internal) and DNAT/Port Forward the public IP to the external subnet IP In either case: a) I will be hiding behind a dedicated firewall appliance and not relying on the OS firewalls b) the internal network will still be in its own subnet firewalled away from the rest of the network c) Only HTTP/HTTPS will be permitted from the internet, no RDP, SSH etc d) I will be deploying IPv6 to this machine in the next 12 months which makes option 1 more attractive I personally like option 1 but I'm looking to see if theres any facepalm reasons I shouldn't do it this way. Happy holidays! -- Thanks Christoph

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JANOG 33 Program Published
by Daniel Griggs 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

Dear Colleagues, We have published the program for JANOG 33 and welcome you to join us in Beppu City, Japan, from 23rd-24th Jan 2014. Most sessions are in Japanese only but there are a few sessions in English. You are also welcome to connect with us through facebook and twitter for updates in English. The JANOG SNS accounts are open to everyone, including those who are not able to attend the meeting. See you in Beppu. Cheers, Shinichi Yamamoto, Chin Sze Yih, Izumi Okutani JANOG Internationalization team for JANOG 33 ----- JANOG 33 Program : ------------------------ The Program is available in English at: http://www.janog.gr.jp/en/index.php?JANOG33%20Programs%2FJANOG33%20Program%… Translations of the program titles and abstracts were supported by volunteers on the best efforts basis. Note: During the meeting, there will be no official interpretations in English, except for the sessions marked as (English session). Registration : ------------------------ You can register online at: https://regist.e-side.co.jp/product_info.php?products_id=427&language=en 　Deadline: 10th Jan 2014 JST 15:00 SNS Accounts : ------------------------ Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/janogmeetingi18n Twitter : https://twitter.com/janog_i18n -- Daniel Griggs e + j: daniel(a)pch.net c: +64 (21) 845158

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Re: [nznog] Help block out China please.
by Pete Mundy 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

A story along a similar line that reinforces this view: I put a phone on public IP space a few weeks back, then got sidetracked while configuring it. Before I had even returned to enter a new admin password and the correct SIP details (only 1/2hr later!), the phone had already been attempting to dial out on it's own. Turns out a robot had found it on it's public IP with port 80 open and started issuing it dial commands before I even had a chance to go about locking it down. It was unable to dial out as it hadn't had the correct SIP server or login details configured, but it just goes to show that the device really need to be locked down _before_ being put on any publicly accessible IP space, even if just for provisioning purposes! Pete On 8/12/2013, at 3:17 PM, "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins(a)arbor.net> wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Don Gould <don(a)bowenvale.co.nz> wrote: > >> Clearly you can't even put a quick and dirty box in place to just prove a concept without having to bolt it down. > > Correct - it simply isn't viable to expose an unpatched/unsecured box to the Internet at all, due to all the automated scanning/hacking activities taking place. > > +1 to the other folks who recommended more workable solutions - 'GeoIP' isn't exact at all, and not all bad nodes (of any nationality) are in China. > > Roland Dobbins

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Re: [nznog] Help block out China please.
by Regan Murphy 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

Build the box behind a firewall and don't open incoming ports until its ready to go. Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Don Gould<mailto:don(a)bowenvale.co.nz> Sent: ‎8/‎12/‎2013 9:54 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz<mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] Help block out China please. How do I download the current patch set for Windows 2012 R2 so I can apply it before putting the box on the network? This seems a bit chicken and egg. (And yes I agree this really is a Geekzone or Whirlpool type question now, but I'm a bit interested in what advice operators are keen for us to be dishing to folk.) Beer. D On 8/12/2013 4:36 p.m., Pete Mundy wrote: > locked down_before_ being put on any publicly accessible IP space > -- > Don Gould > 31 Acheson Ave > Mairehau > Christchurch, New Zealand > Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 > Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 > Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) > > I'M COLLECTING COFFEE CUPS FOR PROJECT COFFEE CUP. > > Deja vue (missing the French accent mark) - literally means already seen, that sense of haven't we been here before. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Help block out China please.
by Don Gould 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

Hi, I've got a machine that's been hacked twice in the past week from IP ranges in China. I have it behind a Mikrotik router. There is no reason for anything outside of NZ and AU to be looking at this box so I'm keen to just block the rest of the world from it. I'm currently thinking an address list to just block out the world or an address list to include Au and Nz. Keen for ideas. D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) I'M COLLECTING COFFEE CUPS FOR PROJECT COFFEE CUP. Deja vue (missing the French accent mark) - literally means already seen, that sense of haven't we been here before.

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SoapUI with WOMBL?
by Michael Fincham 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Afternoon all, Has anyone managed to get Chorus's WOMBL B2B test environment working in SoapUI? One complimentary beer, redeemable at NZNOG 2014, for anyone who can share the settings in SoapUI required to make this work :) -- Michael Fincham

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Domain registration scammers
by LRW Longhurst 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Hi all, Sorry, and "beer" because this is more of an Aussie question, maybe someone can direct me to somewhere more appropriate. One of our execs received one of those "domain name available" letters in the form of an invoice, inviting him to register a name in .net.au that's similar to another name we own. This seems to have come via snail-mail but it invites payment at domainnamegroup.com.au. Do we do anything about such scammers? Suing them for wasting our time springs to mind, but I'm thinking more in terms of reporting to an authority. I know this practice has been around for a while but it's the first time I've encountered it directly. -- Lesley Longhurst (previously Walker) Linux Systems Administrator Opus International Consultants Ltd Email lesley.longhurst(a)opus.co.nz Tel +64 4 471 7002, Fax +64 4 473 3017 http://www.opus.co.nz Level 9 Majestic Centre, 100 Willis Street, PO Box 12 343 Wellington, New Zealand

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Need C2T breakout cable in sky tower kinda urgent
by Alexander Neilson 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Hey Everyone Beer, as required (and a big beer - or drink of choice - for my saviour) I am up working in our racks in sky tower and was doing a scheduled reboot of a server to move some power cables. Now the machine won’t complete booting and I suspect the CMOS battery may have died and the complete removal of power has lost the cmos settings stopping at least part of the boot cycle. I have a keyboard, mouse and screen here but it seems to use a C2D breakout cable to connect up to what looks like a larger than normal DVI port. Does anyone have a cable to get a standard VGA monitor signal out of an IBM eServer xSeries 335 machine anywhere in auckland (nearer sky tower the better) and even better if I can come grab it now. It seems to be one of two adapters I don’t have in my kit with me (this will be fixed) but any white knights would be really appreciated. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Request for IPv4 /23
by Daniel Watson 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

G'day Noggers Thought i would bring this topic back alive as we are still actively looking for a /24 preferably even a /23 but at good pricing. If you have available space your willing to sell at a good price, I'd love to hear from you Even if you have space you would be willing to lease/rent I'd like to hear from you TIA Daniel

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Who's fibre?
by Paul Adshead 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

A new fibre install has just showed up in a shared basement riser. It's currently not connected and no-one in the building is claiming it's theirs. The only identifying mark (written in pen on electrical tape) is "VS-42xxx" (xxx are numbers). Would anyone know which fibre company tags their new installs with labels in this format? We've been told fibre would be unavailable for years at this location, so would really like to get a circuit from that cable, if I only knew who to call.... Thanks Paul Adshead

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Re: [nznog] Who's fibre?
by Stu Fleming 03 Dec '13

03 Dec '13

Jon Brewer: "That's hilarious. There's always a receptionist with keys to the basement or pabx room that will give up keys without asking questions if you've got an orange vest and a decent looking id card." That rules out Chorus then. They can't install anything in a shared building without a 90-day lead time and a mountain of consent paperwork. Also the procedure for obtaining a roof key is slightly more complex as it usually involves the receptionist first a) checking that you are in a happy, smiling mood and b) cautioning you sternly to "make sure you don't fall off"

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Multi-homing without PI space
by Richard Hulse 29 Nov '13

29 Nov '13

Very late to the party... Matthew, if you want to contact me off list I'd be happy to share our experience with becoming an AS, multi-homing, anycast, self-hosting and anything else you might find useful. Cheers, Richard Radio New Zealand Disclaimer Emails sent by Radio New Zealand Limited (RNZ) or any related entity, including any attachments, may be confidential, protected by copyright and/or subject to privilege. If you receive an email from RNZ in error, please inform the sender immediately, delete it from your system and do not use, copy or disclose any of the information in that email for any purpose. Emails to/from RNZ may undergo email filtering and virus scanning, including by third party contractors. However, RNZ does not guarantee that any email or any attachment is secure, error-free or free of viruses or other unwanted or unexpected inclusions. The views expressed in any non-business email are not necessarily the views of RNZ www.radionz.co.nz<http://www.radionz.co.nz>

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NZ download speed improvement
by Nicholas Lee 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

http://www.pcworld.co.nz/article/483086/new_zealand_ranks_43rd_online_downl… 25 May, 2010 "It found that over the past 30 days, Kiwis testing their connections on its two source sites recorded average *download speeds of 5.96 Mbit/s*. When it came to upload speeds, New Zealand ranked 42nd, with an average speed of 1.3 Mbit/s." There seems to have been a reasonable improvement: http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/ 42 New Zealand - 17.02 Mbps 49 Australia - 14.23 Mbps High density fibre installations like they have in HK would be nice: 1. Hong Kong - 71.01 Mbps Nicholas

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Re: [nznog] Advertising /32 externally via BGP
by Tony Wicks 22 Nov '13

22 Nov '13

You need a high metric null route for that /32. Liam Farr <liamfarr(a)me.com> wrote: >Hi,I'verunintoabitofadumbproblem,hopefullysomeoneherecanpointmeintherightdirection.Ireceivearoutetoa/28fromamemberofmyBGPconfederation,(the/28isonadirectlyconnectedinterfaceofthisrouter)viaBGPtooneofmyedgerouters,andIwishtoadvertiseaspecific/32fromthis/28toanexternalBGPpeer(upstreamprovider)fromthisedgerouter.Icanuseroute-mapsandprefix-lists,todefineaBGPexportpolicytoonlyexportthe/32totheexternalneighborwithoutissue.WhereIgetstuckisgettingthe/32intomyroutetable,essentiallyIneedtode-aggregatethe/28downtoa/32?Isthereanaccepted"bestpractice"wayofdoingthis?Apologiesifthisisastupidquestion,I'veneverrunintothisissuebefore,andGoogleisn'tgivingmemuchhelp.CheersLiamFarr

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Advertising /32 externally via BGP
by Liam Farr 22 Nov '13

22 Nov '13

Hi, I've run into a bit of a dumb problem, hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction. I receive a route to a /28 from a member of my BGP confederation, (the /28 is on a directly connected interface of this router) via BGP to one of my edge routers, and I wish to advertise a specific /32 from this /28 to an external BGP peer (upstream provider) from this edge router. I can use route-maps and prefix-lists, to define a BGP export policy to only export the /32 to the external neighbor without issue. Where I get stuck is getting the /32 into my route table, essentially I need to de-aggregate the /28 down to a /32? Is there an accepted "best practice" way of doing this? Apologies if this is a stupid question, I've never run into this issue before, and Google isn't giving me much help. Cheers Liam Farr

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Orcon contact
by Geraint Jones 21 Nov '13

21 Nov '13

Can someone from orcin please contact me off list. Thanks

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Thursday's security amusement!
by Tim Hoffman 21 Nov '13

21 Nov '13

This is vaguely operational and fairly amusing - one of our friendly LFC’s might want to sort their…ahem….levels of security fail! https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=inurl%3A%2F%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.ultrafastf… And to keep it on topic - beer! Cheers, —hoff <views do not represent anyone I may or may not work for etc etc>

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The New Threat: Targeted Internet Traffic Misdirection
by Sebastian Castro 19 Nov '13

19 Nov '13

The link below is an article from Renesys about prefix hijacking they've observed. So far until now, those events were not considered as attacks, but "misconfigurations". http://www.renesys.com/2013/11/mitm-internet-hijacking/ We've seen one of those events on our infrastructure, which lasted a few minutes, and it was detected by BGPmon. Is it moment to push RPKI? Topic to discuss during the next NZNOG meeting? Cheers, -- Sebastian Castro DNS Specialist .nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited) desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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Encryption of national/international information
by Juha Saarinen 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

Yahoo’s following Google’s example and will “encrypt all information that moves between our data centres by the end of Q1 2004” : http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/67373852814/our-commitment-to-protecting-your-… Would this be permitted in NZ? -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen

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Video about SFQ and uplinks
by Pieter De Wit 17 Nov '13

17 Nov '13

Hey List, A while ago someone posted to this list (I am sure it was....) a link to a youtube video about uplinks and why we should do QoS. I tried searching the archives but can't find. Would someone mind pointing me in the right direction for it please ? Thanks !

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[OT] Racks / routers and switches wanted
by Alexander Neilson 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

Sorry for the off list nature of the below. Sunday beer post as an apology ;-) Off list direct replies please to avoid clogging the list up. Phone calls / txt ok to my cellphone numbers below as I am on the road. Is anyone getting rid of any racks at the moment. I am trying to get hold of 2 or 3 42RU+ racks. Prefer solid outer sides and grill front and back doors (but any racks looked at. I am currently getting ready to drive from Christchurch to Auckland in a ute with a trailer on the back so I have room to collect. South Island is today and north island tomorrow. We will consider purchasing the right racks if people want some money for the racks. Also I am looking for some switch / routing / firewall hardware that people want to give away (out of warranty / out of contract is all good) as I am looking for some test hardware for my home lab to learn on. I will have room in the vehicle and will consider any functional hardware available on the route. I don't have money personally to buy this hardware so looking for give aways only (but I will haul it away) Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Ltd Alexander(a)Neilson.net.nz 021 329 681

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Fibre suppliers
by Alexander Neilson 13 Nov '13

13 Nov '13

Hey list. Can anyone advise a good supplier of fibre patch leads. Single mode is all we care about. We are looking today for at least one LCA-LCA patch lead 5M+ today. But we also need to get stock for various types and lengths in the near future and we are looking for a good quality supplier. Off list replies (or suggestions on list if people think it would be helpful) Regards Alexander *Alexander Neilson* *Neilson Productions Limited* *alexander(a)neilson.net.nz <alexander(a)neilson.net.nz>* *021 329 681*

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NSA, QUANTUM and packet injection
by Juha Saarinen 12 Nov '13

12 Nov '13

Potentially operational content… http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/11/this-is-how-the-internet-backbone-has-… -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen

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[OT] Boxes in Wellington?
by Alexander Neilson 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

Off Topic, so Beer! Does anyone in Wellington have some empty computer / server / large monitor boxes they are wanting to clear out? I am moving this friday and I am a few boxes short. Please message me off list and I will try accept any useful boxes and come collect them. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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So what're people using to label ethernet cables these days?
by Mark Foster 09 Nov '13

09 Nov '13

I've got a project underway with a large amount of fresh-install ethernet cabling and i'd like to 'do it right' with respects to cable labelling. The old does-everything Dymo Label Printer is doable, for a while, but in datacentre environments the labels degrade and fall off eventually, which isn't ideal. I've also used 'kabelflags' before but I would prefer something I can print with a machine, I think. That said i'd be interested in what people are doing, or what they 'should' be doing... ? Cheers Mark.

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Multi-homing without PI space
by Matthew Poole 07 Nov '13

07 Nov '13

A "small company wanting to play big company" question: My employer is investigating options for network redundancy as having a functional internet connection is critical to our operation. We're not in any position to even try applying for PI IPv4 space from APNIC (only using a /28), and are in no way close to being ready to think about going to pure IPv6. Clients push to us, so we need to have functional DNS as well as link fail-over. We also have multiple public-facing servers offering the same services, so moving to *shudder* NAT or some kind of port proxying isn't an easy option (clients' internal bureaucracies to get firewall ports opened, client configuration, blah blah blah). So, my question, what are our operational course of action for multi-homing when becoming an AS on the global tubes isn't on the cards? Cheers -- Matthew Poole "The difference between theory and practice is that practice is easier in theory than theory is in practice"

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APRICOT 2014 call for papers is now open
by Dean Pemberton 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

Hi everyone, We have just released the call for presentations for APRICOT 2014. Please consider presenting at APRICOT, or encourage a colleague or friend to do so. Also we'd really appreciate it if you would help inform members of your local operations community about this CfP. Many thanks! Philip, Mark, Dean APRICOT PC Chairs -- Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies (APRICOT) 18 - 28 February 2014, Bangkok, Thailand https://2014.apricot.net CALL FOR PAPERS =============== The APRICOT 2014 Programme Committee is now seeking contributions for Presentations and Tutorials for APRICOT 2014. We are looking for presenters who would: - Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic; - Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker; - Convene and chair panel sessions of relevant topics. Please submit on-line at: http://papers.apricot.net/user/login.php?event=6 CONFERENCE MILESTONES --------------------- Call for Papers Opens: 1 November 2013 First Draft Programme Published: 6 December 2013 Final Deadline for Submissions: 7 February 2014 Final Programme Published: 14 February 2014 Final Slides Received: 21 February 2014 PROGRAMME MATERIAL ------------------ The APRICOT Programme is organised in three parts, including workshops, tutorials and the conference. Topics for tutorials and the conference must be relevant to Internet Operations and Technologies: - IPv4 / IPv6 Routing and operations - IPv6 deployment and transition technologies - Internet backbone operations - ISP and Carrier services - IXPs and Peering - Research on Internet Operations and Deployment - Thai Internet - Network security issues (NSP-SEC, DDoS, Anti-Spam, Anti-Malware) - DNS / DNSSEC - Internet policy (Security, Regulation, Content Management, Addressing, etc) - Access and Transport Technologies, including Cable/DSL, 3G/LTE, wireless, metro ethernet, fibre, MPLS - Content & Service Delivery (Multicast, Voice, Video, "telepresence", Gaming) and Cloud Computing CfP SUBMISSION -------------- Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be provided with CfP submissions otherwise the Programme Committee will be unable to review the submission. For work in progress, the most current information available at time of submission is acceptable. All draft and complete slides must be submitted in PDF format only. Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for publication on the APRICOT website. Prospective presenters should note that the majority of speaking slots will be filled well before the final submission deadline. The PC will retain a limited number of slots up to the final submission deadline for presentations that are exceptionally timely, important, or of critical operational importance. Please submit on-line at: http://papers.apricot.net/user/login.php?event=6 Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the Programme Committee by e-mail at: pc-chairs at apricot.net We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals. Dean Pemberton, Mark Tinka & Philip Smith Co-Chairs, APRICOT Programme Committee pc-chairs(a)apricot.net

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Off Topic: IEC cable C13 to 2xC14
by Joel van Velden 02 Nov '13

02 Nov '13

Off topic I know, but has anyone ever come across an IEC C13 "jug-plug splitting" cable with two male (C14) ends, the sort of cable you'd want to use if you had two power supplies in a rack but only one power socket available? I'm after a supplier near Auckland. I can source from US but i'm wanting them this week. Cheers, Joel van Velden

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Calling all Mirror Providers
by Daniel Watson 01 Nov '13

01 Nov '13

Gday Guys I'm setting up a new project today that will benefit a lot of providers out there in the market, I will be creating brand new mirrorlists for all the major repo's out there in the internet If you operate a mirror of any software, I would appreciate if you could take a few minutes to reply to this email with your URL of your mirror. I already am aware of a fair few out there already but i am not aware of them all The way that this will be setup will require you to let me know if your mirror operates only on Australian shores or if you also have mirror's in other locations, Please specify the location of the mirror also. Looking forward to your responses. D.

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Help / Advise tweaking BGP settings
by Alexander Neilson 31 Oct '13

31 Oct '13

Hey All We have recently made some major changes at $DAYJOB with our connectivity to the outside world and our peering. One of the things we have taken on is a 1Gbps APE peering port and Upgraded out WIX port to 100Mbps. While I find often our inbound traffic takes a fairly efficient path (usually - tho $TRANSITPROVIDER seems to cut prepends and possibly even disaggregates some prefixes (tho this could be something hanging around)) our outbound does seem to be less efficient, especially where APE is concerned. I am currently testing an adaption where I only accept shorter prefixes from $TRANSITPROVIDER and a default route (to avoid blackholing) the domestic transit doesn’t have a “default route” option and I want to avoid pushing domestic traffic over International if it only has a long prefix to match and isn’t peered. Would anyone be willing to provide me some tips / tricks / advise / examples of what they do with BGP (or some good resources) that I can use to improve the routing table I use in the network? Also does anyone have NZ Provider looking glass servers (not the NZIX as I know and use them) where I can see how other domestic providers see my announced routes and how it appears to them (so I can make changes and test but also see what I am being seen as)? Thank you very much in advance for any help. Off list replies are welcomed and possibly better to avoid clogging up the list if people think this is too basic a request for here. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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NZNOG 2014 - Registrations now open
by Neil Fenemor 31 Oct '13

31 Oct '13

NZNOG 2014 - registrations open ============================= Registrations for New Zealand's pre-eminent technical Internet networking conference - NZNOG 2014 - are now open. Hosted by the New Zealand Network Operators Group, NZNOG 2014 is the country's only technical networking conference, and features a host of plenary sessions, practical workshops and tutorials. Spaces are limited, so register now and join your fellow ICT specialists for a feast of information sharing, technical up-skilling and professional networking. To register, please visit http://www.nznog.org/register What: NZNOG 2014 When: 27 - 31 January 2014 Where: Rutherford Hotel, Nelson ---- Conference structure NZNOG 2014 incorporates two three-day practical workshops, a one-day of technical tutorials and the conference-proper. Workshops: 27 to 29 January, 2014 Network Infrastructure Security BGP routing Tutorial: 29 January, 2014 Mikrotik 1-day workshop OpenDNSSEC Fundamentals SDN/OpenFlow Installation Conference-proper: 30 - 31 January, 2014 Confirmed so far: International Speaker Tom Paseka (CloudFlare) "NZ Perspectives from a global CDN" Geoff Huston (APNIC) "Measuring DNSSEC" Jamie Baddeley (Citylink) "NZIX2/Citylink SDN Gerard Creamer (Netspace Services) "Experiences with dual A records vs anycasting" Barry Brailey (.nz) DNSSEC programme Sam Russell (REANNZ) "Building better Skype with WebRTC, SIP, and ENUM Jamie Horrell "Statistical methods for Network Analysis" A range of pricing options are available, including a heavily-discounted student registration: Main conference (waged) - $150.00 Main conference (student) - $25.00 Practical workshop - $150.00 Practical workshop (student) - $25.00 Tutorial - $25.00 ---- More information More information about NZNOG 2014 can be found at www.nznog.org. For sponsorship opportunities please contact sponsorship(a)nznog.org Cheers, neil for the NZNOG Trustees

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Anycast node swap NZ / UK
by Nat Morris 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

Hi, We're looking for someone to swap a low bandwidth DNS server with in New Zealand. We run an anycast setup and announce the same /24 + /48 from a dedicated ASN from multiple locations around the globe. Would be looking for a single CPU with 512mb + 20gb disc running Debian x64, only special thing it needs is a BGP session so we can announce our address space (you only need provide it with a default route, not full table!). We can provide the same in return in the UK :) Cheers, Nat, -- Nat Morris Esgob Ltd http://www.esgob.com

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JANOG 33 Call for Papers
by Daniel Griggs 10 Oct '13

10 Oct '13

Hello, I am sending this on behalf of the JANOG community. JANOG is making a call for presentation until 24th Oct. It is a networks operators group in Japan with 400+ participants at meetings, and + 6,000 mailing list subscribers as of June 2013. Our Meetings are in Japanese but we have had several non-Japanese speakers presenting at JANOG. We are looking forward to your proposals for presentations. Cheers, Shinichi Yamamoto, Chin Sze (James) Yih, Izumi Okutani JANOG Internationalization team for JANOG 33 ----- JANOG 33 Call for Papers ----------- The JApan Network Operators' Group (JANOG) will hold its 33th meeting in Beppu, Japan on January 23-24, 2014. Yahoo Japan will host JANOG 33. We invite presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon-to-be deployed in the Internet. Submissions are welcome via the e-mail at:"meeting-33[at]janog.gr.jp". ABOUT JANOG ----------- A JANOG Web Page in English can be found at: http://www.janog.gr.jp/en/ THE KEY DATE FOR JANOG 33 SUBMISSIONS ------------------------------------- CFP Deadline : October 24 23:59 JST The Program Committee will notify applicants after 8th Nov on their decision about the submissions. HOW TO PRESENT -------------- If you are interested to give a presentation but do not have someone to help you with the language, try consulting us at: "meeting-33[at]janog.gr.jp". Although we cannot guarantee, we may be able to help you on volunteer basis. The detail of presentation guidelines can be found under JANOG 33 Web Page in English. http://www.janog.gr.jp/en/index.php?JANOG33%20Programs Let us know if you have any questions meeting-33[at]janog.gr.jp -- Daniel

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.nz namespace to be flattened!
by Andy Linton 10 Oct '13

10 Oct '13

https://internetnz.net.nz/news/media-releases/2013/New-level-Internet-domai…

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Reminder - Call for Papers for NZNOG 2014
by Mike Jager 09 Oct '13

09 Oct '13

A reminder that submissions for presentations at NZNOG 2014 are due in the next couple of weeks. Don't forget that the best local paper will win a trip to APRICOT 2014 in Bangkok, Thailand. As they say, you've gotta be in to win! ---- The NZNOG organising committee invites papers for its 13th annual conference, to be hosted at the Rutherford Hotel, Nelson, New Zealand from 27 – 31 January 2014. There will the three day Workshops 27 – 29 January, a day of tutorials on 29 January with the main conference on 30 – 31 January. The best local conference paper as judged by the trustees in association with the programme committee will win a trip to APRICOT 2014, to be held in Bangkok, Thailand, 18-28 February 2014. So, get writing! Conference objective: The NZNOG conference, workshops and tutorials are a once-a-year opportunity for individuals and organisations involved in Internet operations to meet and share the latest in Internet operations, technologies practises and receive high quality training. The event is unique in New Zealand and attracts technical, skilled individuals with a genuine interest in Internet operations and Internetworking technologies. Submit a paper: Presenters are invited to submit abstracts of their paper for consideration by Monday 21st October. Abstracts should be no more than one page long and provide a summary of your networking-related subject matter. Please note that full slide decks will be required by 18th November. To submit your paper please e-mail: talks(a)nznog.org When considering a presentation, remember that the NZNOG audience is mainly comprised of technical network operators and engineers with a wide range of experience levels from beginners to multi-year experience. There is a strong orientation to offer core skills and basic knowledge in SIGs and to address issues relevant to the day-to-day operations of ISPs and network operators in the conference sessions. Note: The inclusion of a title, bio, topic, abstract, and slides with proposals is not compulsory but will help us determine the quality of your proposal and increase the likelihood it will be accepted. The organising committee will evaluate abstracts based on fit with the conference’s objective and its ability to stimulate lively discussions around the current state of New Zealand networking. The best local paper will be judged by a selection of the trustees and the programme committee. Return flights from New Zealand, accommodation, and conference fees will be covered. It will be expected the best paper is submitted by the winner for presentation at APRICOT. More details on paper submission can be found at http://www.nznog.org/call-for-papers For more information about the conference visit www.nznog.org or contact: talks(a)nznog.org

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Arbor Networks 9th Annual Infrastructure Security Survey
by Sockrider, Gary 08 Oct '13

08 Oct '13

_______________________________________________________________________ Arbor Networks 9th Annual Infrastructure Security Survey Now Open _______________________________________________________________________ Arbor Networks would like to invite you to participate in our annual infrastructure security survey, an important initiative that touches service providers, enterprises, government agencies, universities and other network operators around the world. Please go here to participate in the 2013 survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/FGY6KJD We are requesting that you complete and submit the survey by October 31, 2013. The purpose of the survey is to gauge and report on general security issues, practices, procedures and observations from the industry. All data gathered from the survey will be compiled, analyzed and reported in Arbor's 9th annual Worldwide Infrastructure Security Report which will be published in early 2014. Individual responses will be treated anonymously and no respondent names or company names will appear in the report or accompanying presentations and/or marketing materials. For your reference, our 8th annual Worldwide Infrastructure Security Report, issued earlier this year and based on responses to last year's survey is available here: http://pages.arbornetworks.com/rs/arbor/images/WISR2012_EN.pdf Your industry perspectives are important to Arbor and we value your input. Thank you, in advance, for your participation. With best regards, Arbor Networks

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National Vs International Traffic
by Shane Hanson 07 Oct '13

07 Oct '13

Hello All I'm sure this question has been asked a number of times before but a quick search through the list and a Google pretty much draws a blank. I'm working for a service provider (Mothership) and we're trying to differentiate between national and international traffic. Any pointers? Thanks SHANE lE <mailto:shane(a)mothership.co.nz> shane(a)mothership.co.nz lW <http://mothership.co.nz/> mothership.co.nz lA PO Box 99814, Newmarket lM +64 21 623 903

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Re: [nznog] Speaking of IPv6
by Brad Cowie 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

Hello, I don't run the machine that hosts the list, but figure I should chime in since I can provide the most up to date information. Waikato has a fully working IPv6 upstream and our own prefix (2001:df0:4::/48) we at Wand make good use of v6. The downside is that I haven't seen any other departments on campus adopt IPv6 yet, apart from our HPC group and Music group. list.waikato.ac.nz is a campus-wide service run by our ITS division, I haven't heard much about ITS's IPv6 deployment plans, but I'm not sure that will help much in this case considering our email vendor (postini in this case) doesn't have IPv6 support. I'm pretty sure we'll have to move off postini soon considering Google is planning to close that service down at some point. Hopefully our new email vendor has IPv6 support? Feel free to flick me any other questions on or off list and I'll attempt to provide answers. Cheers, Brad Cowie -- Systems Administrator Wand Group Department of Computer Science The University of Waikato Mobile: +64 27 5888 103 | Office: G.1.32 From: Dean Pemberton <nznog(a)deanpemberton.com> > Date: 2 October 2013 19:24 > Subject: Re: [nznog] Speaking of IPv6 > To: Juha Saarinen <juha(a)saarinen.org> > Cc: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > > > Aww man thats harsh.... but fair. > > Someone from Waikato how are you looking for IPv6 deployment? > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Juha Saarinen <juha(a)saarinen.org> wrote: > > $ host -6 -v list.waikato.ac.nz > > Trying "list.waikato.ac.nz" > > ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached > > > > $ host list.waikato.ac.nz > > list.waikato.ac.nz has address 130.217.66.63 > > list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 400 > > list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b2.psmtp.com. > > list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 100 > > list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a1.psmtp.com. > > list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 200 > > list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a2.psmtp.com. > > list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 300 > > list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b1.psmtp.com. > > > > -- > > Juha Saarinen > > twitter: juhasaarinen >

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Re: [nznog] "What's the hourly price for a /24?"
by Scott Weeks 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

--- jlaundry(a)jlaundry.com wrote: From: Jed Laundry <jlaundry(a)jlaundry.com> Pardon my ignorance of the APNIC list discussions, but is the point to: 1. allow /24s to be used by different ASes for short periods of time to handle peak demands? I can only think of mobile IP providers in different timezones being a "sensible" example of this. 2. to allow ASes to claim a need for addresses based on short term customer uses? This is an edge case; I've run a couple of events where I needed a /26 for a weekend, which was taken from the provider's existing pool. 3. to mark addresses as leased (i.e. cloud servers) to avoid blacklist hell for the next poor unfortunate soul to use them? (glhf?) ------------------------------------------------------- You forgot 4. to spam. Sorta like hourly rates at a motel... >;-) scott _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Refurb Cisco Kit (inside) in NZ
by Skeeve Stevens 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

Hi, Could some people sell Refurbished Cisco kit in NZ contact me, or someone give me some contacts. I'm hoping for someone who is already in NZ so I can have to deal with the extra costs of import duties, shipping, risk, etc. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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"What's the hourly price for a /24?"
by Dean Pemberton 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

Hi All, The subject line is a question I posed to Geoff Huston years ago in response to us both musing what the price to purchase address space would be. I suggested that if it really got that bad, people would be asking about leasing by the hour rather than buying outright. That time looks to be upon us. While not explicitly allowed, nor disallowed by APNIC policy, IP address leasing is becoming a hot topic of discussion on relevant APNIC lists. Should it be allowed? Should it be disallowed? It it were disallowed would that actually stop it? What mechanisms need to be in place to keep it sane? A 'whowas' server for eg Should someone be able to be allocated addresses under a needs based policy just so they can make money leasing them? Does leasing addresses mean that you no longer need them? Should you be required to return the ? These and many more issues are questions I'd like you all to give me feed back on. This topic will come up in APRICOT 2014 in Thailand. I'd like to know a lot more about what you all think about it before I take the mic. Regards Dean -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To protect and promote the Internet for New Zealand.

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Speaking of IPv6
by Juha Saarinen 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

$ host -6 -v list.waikato.ac.nz Trying "list.waikato.ac.nz" ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached $ host list.waikato.ac.nz list.waikato.ac.nz has address 130.217.66.63 list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 400 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b2.psmtp.com. list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 100 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a1.psmtp.com. list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 200 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a2.psmtp.com. list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 300 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b1.psmtp.com. -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen

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UFB Right Performing
by Jonathon Exley 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

Hi all, Chorus have been developing new UFB service templates through the Right Performing process. The main focus has been on increasing burst sizes to permit better TCP performance, and a corresponding relaxation of the delay and jitter SLA. The latest version has been submitted to the TCF for approval this week. Just in case you don't participate in the TCF, you can download a copy from https://db.tt/RgaqMjYL. If you have any comments/abuse please share them (but don't hassle me about the maths - I didn't write it) [cid:image001.jpg(a)01CEBF8D.35452160] Jonathon Exley Network Specialist Layer 2 T +64 4 498 5602 M +64 27 514 8048 E jonathon.exley(a)chorus.co.nz Level 3, Deloitte House, 10 Brandon Street P O Box 632, Wellington www.chorus.co.nz<http://www.chorus.co.nz> Aon Hewitt Best Employer in Australasia 2013 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________ This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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Wellington OpenStack meet up tonight
by Andrew Ruthven 29 Sep '13

29 Sep '13

Hey, Is it the last Monday of the month already?! Time for the second OpenStack users group meeting in Wellington! For this meetup we'll have Bruno Lago from Catalyst IT doing an overview of OpenStack. He will describe all the core projects and show them working from the Horizon interface, command line tools and APIs. The Q&A session is an excellent opportunity for people to clarify their questions and share ideas with other OpenStackers. Where? Level 3, Catalyst House, 150 Willis St Time? 6pm, presentation starting at 6:30pm The front door locks at 6pm, but we'll have a sign down there with a contact phone number. Due to popular demand, an Auckland group is in the works. Cheers! -- Andrew Ruthven Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | linux.conf.au 2014 | Come swan on the Swan River | http://linux.conf.au

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Re: [nznog] Mail admins for dmzglobal, yahoo and ihug
by Robert 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi Don, I saw you were looking for admins for iHug/Vodafone/TCL. Give me a shout I will be able to help you with that. Regards, Rob. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJSRnBBAAoJELLoL7phT5laZbAP/i2GWO7aR0nhNK2TwTQU2Nyj G+SQl/sCFBsRJvht91Axi30ChUL6yeohxqyqxuEXkyaPe/mVC3VC1QvdNR6Vw72o QpQVKTv5oiCz/D2ZBp6X7BB2CwA4Qfzx+wm0eCX+UdxFwsfMu4aMsIqsCSZ6FQiO i+x6KxAKqUsG/C3i5yPDXcKl848kbuAPpbk1RAaZCGr4kYI/k7DmXYfR+4r9C05L HaIBmHNuqYFHX4zyBM0ZmH9S5R3ZwVQX/WejUWZFnrM01+GPsmeYKra8pIdbd9cH zwiJFW7i7lFl2+UyNU3v/L6Em3ukBL7Z63+nVPj94Mzs9rHXsYNOHMnsRaVP6IqG /1gVNsXtm4Dedfrc6FeC8CBTLfpGpJpiv1V0kJQT/deBXh+TJNFCDEi9MWN3kKww FSzhzIJU6CLZnRTkKO4rPlViID5C6bwiJHAHe2Y/GUMm+TmKWZm+k+8AKu3RXozv OYvOvsQTgfHoUwjbTiGtQP8EGElIB8CAZqze1luHSoJEWWkMLWCP0+wuWw/Gryp/ 7cVKUdm1feFcBzkPsQ8HkGEah5P8r1qQ93WvtkOzJ9XQF3TWUb8XiKYGyCvB+5YR bp5mFdfsOAJWPM6/EkFjCA5WzrS4+6WUZM7wRn+m9+owp0ESgJajy++zCFsRaPn0 O7C8yRlZ0Elw/hDmulOu =6Gqc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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TelstraVodaHug core lag
by Matthew Poole 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

Hi all Breaking with recent tradition and discussing something related to the operation of the NZ tubes... My employer has a TVH business fibre connection, and since around midnight Saturday/Sunday the latency to 8.8.8.8 (one of my Smokeping test subjects) has been consistently > 160ms. mtr tells me: |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | WinMTR statistics | | Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last | |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------| | firewall - 0 | 124 | 124 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 203.167.222.5 - 1 | 120 | 119 | 0 | 2 | 51 | 51 | | ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 0 | 3 | 62 | 1 | |ge-0-2-0-914.xcore2.acld.telstraclear.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 0 | 3 | 48 | 2 | | gi1-2.akl-grafton-bdr2.ihug.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 1 | 2 | 29 | 11 | | No response from host - 100 | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | tu20232901.akl-grafton-core1.ihug.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 129 | 132 | 192 | 164 | | 209.85.249.5 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 176 | 178 | 242 | 200 | | 209.85.250.63 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 176 | 187 | 252 | 195 | | 72.14.232.63 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 181 | 183 | 246 | 199 | | 72.14.233.200 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 189 | 191 | 251 | 213 | | 216.239.48.165 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 179 | 182 | 244 | 197 | | No response from host - 100 | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | google-public-dns-a.google.com - 0 | 124 | 124 | 179 | 183 | 246 | 200 | |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______| The sudden latency jump at akl-grafton-core1.ihug.net kinda leaps out. Is anyone else seeing this? And is this something that the TVH admins are aware of? Please don't make me deal with helpdesk! Cheers -- Matthew Poole "The difference between theory and practice is that practice is easier in theory than theory is in practice"

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Email Evolution: 40 years of changing engines in mid-flight
by Brian E Carpenter 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

May be of interest if in Auckland on 14/10... City campus = University of Auckland Symonds St/Princes St 303-561 = seminar room on top floor of Computer Science -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Computer Science Staff] Advance notice of October's Departmental Seminar - NOTE Occurs on a MONDAY not on regular day!!!!! Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:35:53 +1200 From: Mike Barley <mbar098(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> Reply-To: Mike Barley <mbar098(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> To: <staff(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> CC: Mike Barley <mbar098(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> Advance Departmental Seminar Announcement Title: Email Evolution: 40 years of changing engines in mid-flight Time: Monday, 14 October, 12:00 - 1:00 Venue: City campus, room 303-561 Speaker: Dave Crocker Affiliation: Brandenburg InternetWorking Host: Brian Carpenter Abstract: The first networked email was sent 42 years ago. Surprisingly, messages from the early 70s look similar to the basic text email we send today. In fact, the current Internet Mail service has been in continuous operation longer than the Internet, with such enhancements as addressing, multi-media and security, while growing from a few hundred users to a few billion. Email is the ultimate distributed application and one of the few true peer-to-peer services on the Internet. The talk with explore this history, successful approaches for making major architectural enhancements while preserving an installed base, and current challenges for global email use. Short Bio of Speaker: David H. Crocker is a principal with Brandenburg InternetWorking, developing network-based applications businesses and designing system architectures for them. Over the past 40 years he contributed to early Internet research, led product development efforts and founded several startups, serving as CEO for one. Dave created and operated two national email services, designed two others, and was CEO of a community non-profit ISP. His product, service and standards efforts cover knowledge management, email, instant messaging, facsimile and EDI, as well as Internet security, commerce, domain name service, emergency services, and even some TCP and IP enhancements. He has authored more than 50 Internet technical specification. Dave served as an Area Director for the Internet Engineering Task Force, variously overseeing network management, middleware and the IETF standards process, and has served on the IETF's administrative committee, as well as chairing a working group on reputation. He is also a senior adviser for the industry's Messaging Anti-Abuse Working Group and is on the board of the non-profit Trusted Domain Project. Dave is a co-recipient of the 2004 IEEE Internet award for his work on email. - Mike -- Regards Brian Carpenter http://orcid.org/0000-0001-7924-6182

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1
by Jonathan Spence 17 Sep '13

17 Sep '13

Hi Paul,Thanks for the assistance and pointing out a glaringly obvious problem :S. NS records are all fixed but not seeing the delegation still. Should this happen now automatically or do Orcon still need to do something? I've now learnt how to use the Dig command but can't figure out how to trace it like in other posts. Thanks,Jonathan Jonathan Spence Chief Information Officer Mobile: +64-21-1055634 Work: +64-9-9503306 Web: power-business.co.nz The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipient names. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. Views expressed in this message may notnecessarily be those of Power Business Services Limited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments. ---------------------------------------- From: nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 12:00 PM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: NZNOG Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1 Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz You can reach the person managing the list at nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Jonathan Spence) 2. Re: Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Leo Vegoda) 3. Re: Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Paul Tinson) 4. Re: Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Paul Tinson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 02:08:47 +1200 From: "Jonathan Spence" <jonathan.spence(a)power-business.co.nz> To: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [nznog] Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation Message-ID: <7d59cc8$6fc11687$642d0766$(a)xtracta.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, Google have just started enforcing PTR records for IPv6 addresses delivering to Gmail. Our IPv6 works great with Orcon but having serious issues getting delegation back to our nameservers setup. I have been told a few times that everything is setup on their end but I don't think it is. Our IP space: 2400:4800:4017::/48 is meant to be sent to ns1.power-business.co.nz and ns2.power-business.co.nz. However it doesn't seem to. For example our website is:2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f If I query ns1.power-business.co.nz from my home computer is works fine: -----command----- C:\Users\Jonathan Spence>nslookup 2400:4800:4017:0200:0250:56ff:fe90:082f 60.234.77.213 Server: UnKnown Address: 60.234.77.213 Name: midas.power-business.co.nz Address: 2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f ------ end command ----- However other hosts don't resolve this. When using this tool it doesn't work failing when reaching Orcon's nameserver: http://www.simpledns.com/lookup-dg.aspx Can anyone comment? Thanks, Jonathan ------- output ------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns4.apnic.net (no IP address) -> apnic1.dnsnode.net (no IP address) -> ns3.apnic.net (no IP address) -> tinnie.arin.net (no IP address) -> ns2.lacnic.net (no IP address) -> sec1.authdns.ripe.net (no IP address) -> ns1.apnic.net (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" to IP address 194.146.106.106 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (194.146.106.106) ---------------------------------------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.0.8.4.0.0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns1.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) -> ns2.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" to IP address 210.55.12.2 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (210.55.12.2) ---------------------------------------- Received authoritative (AA) response: -> Header: Non-Existent Domain ----- end output ----- Jonathan Spence Chief Information Officer Mobile: +64-21-1055634 Work: +64-9-9503306 Web: power-business.co.nz The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipient names. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. Views expressed in this message may notnecessarily be those of Power Business Services Limited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments.

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CFP: Sysadmin Miniconf at Linux.conf.au 2014
by Simon Lyall 14 Sep '13

14 Sep '13

Call for Presentations Linux.conf.au 2014 Systems Administration Miniconf As part of the linux.conf.au conference in Perth, Australia in January 2014 we will be holding a one day mini conference oriented to Linux Systems Administration. The organisers of the Systems Administration Miniconf would like to invite proposals for presentations to be delivered at the Miniconf. Please forward this CFP to your colleagues, social networks, and other relevant mailing lists. This is our 8th year at Linux.conf.au. To see presentations from our previous years, see the miniconf website http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/. Presentation Topics =================== Topics for presentations could include (but are not limited to): Systems Administration, Virtualisation, Cloud computing, Devops, Monitoring, Dealing with "Bring Your Own Device", Configuration Management, Backups, Security, Troubleshooting, Buying Decisions, Identity Management, Two Factor Authentication, Web and Email management, Wiki, Clustering and High Availability, Log Management, Spam and Virus Filtering, VOIP, Ticketing systems, Bootstrapping and automated installation, Packaging and Provisioning, Keeping legacy systems functioning. We strongly welcome topics on best practice, new developments in systems administration and cutting edge techniques to better manage Linux hosts and environments. Presentations should be of a technical nature and speakers should assume that members of the audience have at least a couple of years experience in Unix/Linux administration. Format of Presentations ======================= We are now seeking proposals for presentations at the mini-conference. We have openings for: 45 minute double-length presentations 20 minute full presentations 10-20 minute "How we do things" presentations 5-10 minute "lightning talks" Please note, due to the single day available, we expect the majority of available timeslots to be 20 minutes long or less. The 10-20 minute "How we do things" presentations are intended for people to talk about their sites. Information could include: Servers, talks, tools, people and roles, experiences, software, operating systems, monitoring, alerting, provisioning etc. The intent is to give attendees a picture of what is happening in the "real world" and some understanding of how other sites work, as well as offer you a chance to get suggestions on other tools and practices that might help your site. Discussion of "lessons learned" through really trying to use some of these things are especially welcomed. Submitting talks ================ Please note that in order to give a presentation or attend the miniconf you must be signed up for the main linux.conf.au conference. Presenting at the Miniconf does not entitle you to discounted or free registration at the main conference nor priority with registration. Unfortunately the Miniconf has no budget for sponsorship of speakers. Submissions should be made via: http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/proposal14.html Questions should be sent to: lca2014 @ sysadmin.miniconf.org Dates and Deadlines =================== To encourage early submissions priority (both of inclusion and scheduling) will be given to presentations submitted before the 6th of October. 2013-10-06 - Deadline for early submissions 2013-10-13 - Early submissions confirmation 2013-11-01 - Deadline for submissions 2013-11-15 - Confirmation of all presentations 2013-01-06 - Start of Miniconf and 1st day on linxu.conf.au Contact and Questions ===================== Please see our website at http://sysadmin.miniconf.org for more information on the miniconf, past presentations and presenting at it. If you have any questions please feel free to email the organisers at: lca2014 @ sysadmin.miniconf.org

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OT: copper pricing (deadline 5pm today)
by Brian E Carpenter 12 Sep '13

12 Sep '13

Anyone who wants to make a submission, for example commenting on the Coalition for Fair Internet Pricing submission, can do so by email before 5pm today, Friday 13 September 2013, sent to telcoreview(a)mbie.govt.nz. URLs: http://www.med.govt.nz/sectors-industries/technology-communication/communic… http://beehive.govt.nz/release/review-provide-certainty-consumers-industry-0 http://www.consumer.org.nz/news/view/coalition-says-no-to-600-million-inter… Regards Brian Carpenter

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One block of AS Numbers allocated to APNIC
by Leo Vegoda 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of one block of 1,024 AS Numbers to APNIC in September 2013: 63488-63999 Assigned by APNIC whois.apnic.net 2013-09-11 133120-133631 Assigned by APNIC whois.apnic.net 2013-09-11 You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/ The allocation was made in accordance with the Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks to Regional Internet Registries: https://www.icann.org/en/resources/policy/global-addressing/global-polic y-asn-blocks-21sep10-en.htm Regards, Leo Vegoda ICANN IANA

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OT - APNIC / Google Compliance Scam Calls
by Liam Farr 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

FYI Someone is calling through business in Auckland as a "representative" of APNIC. They are asking to talk to the IT Manager of the organization called, regarding "Google Compliance Errors". The scammer's caller ID was 19542831741, which if correct belongs to: <?xml version='1.0'?> <filtermessage> <api_version>1.01</api_version> <prefix>1954283</prefix> <destination> <iso3166>US</iso3166> <country>United States</country> <region>Pompano Beach, FL</region> <short_name>United States</short_name> </destination> <type> <id>FIX</id> <description>geographic</description> </type> <registrar> <name>Intermedia Communications Inc. - Fl</name> <range_status>t</range_status> </registrar> <meta> <lookuptime>-0.496342</lookuptime> </meta> </filtermessage> Cheers Liam

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InternetNZ to host APRICOT 2016 in Auckland!
by Dean Pemberton 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

It's my pleasure to announce that InternetNZ has been awarded the hosting rights for the 2016 APRICOT conference. The conference will be held at SkyCity and Auckland University of Technology in February 2016. The press release at the following link has some more information. https://internetnz.net.nz/news/media-releases/2013/New-Zealand-host-Asia-Pa… Needless to say this is a big opportunity for the networking community within New Zealand and we look forward to getting you all involved before, during and after the event. Regards, Dean -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To protect and promote the Internet for New Zealand.

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IPSec vendor interoperability war stories
by Mark Goldfinch 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Hi everyone, I have a business need to support IPSEC tunnels with many different vendors as we don't get to select our partner's equipment vendors. We've had some recent problems with our existing equipment. At the moment we're look at whether whether software upgrades will help our current situation. While we're doing that we're also looking at what other options exist. I'd appreciate anyone's operational experiences between different IPSec vendors, either on-list or to me directly if you want to protect the identities of the not so innocent :-) Beer for those who can offer their experiences! Thanks, -- * *Mark Goldfinch | Systems Team Leader MODICA GROUP nz: +64 4 498 6000

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Vodafone RBI Tower Cosite
by Jonathan Brewer 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Hi Folks, Anyone want to share their experiences co-siting on one of Vodafone's new RBI funded towers? As I understand there are fixed prices for co-site, backhaul from Chorus, etc.. It should be a pretty sweet deal. If there's anyone from Vodafone listening, I'd appreciate a pointer to a location list, rate card, and application form. I can't find them online. Cheers, Jon

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Xtra mail admin and ptr records...
by Don Gould 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

From:<gillian.halkett(a)nzvanlines.co.nz <mailto:gillian.halkett(a)nzvanlines.co.nz>> SIZE=50696 Tue 2013-09-10 15:27:37: [126020:1] <-- 250 2.1.0 Ok Tue 2013-09-10 15:27:37: [126020:1] --> RCPT To:<jenna(a)christchurchapartments.co.nz <mailto:jenna(a)christchurchapartments.co.nz>> Tue 2013-09-10 15:27:38: [126020:1] <-- 553 5.7.1 <222-154-247-46.adsl.xtra.co.nz <http://adsl.xtra.co.nz>[222.154.247.46]>: Client host rejected: AUTO_[A|X]DSL We aren't accept direct connection not from dedicated SMTP servers. Please use your internet provider SMTP Server. Tue 2013-09-10 15:27:38: [126020:1] --> QUIT We're rejecting mail from nzvanlines.co.nz because they're running their smtp server on a service with a|x|vdsl in the ptr record. I think we've had this discussion on list before, and iirc we decided that we just get providers to update ptr records, but I'm a bit scared to ring L1HD and ask for a ptr change. Is there an admin on list from Telecom who can work with your customer to fix this for as I doubt it's only us it's impacting? D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb)

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Fwd: [PAG] Fwd: [isoc-advisory-council] STATEMENT: Internet Society Responds to Reports of the U.S. Government’s Circumvention of Encryption Technology
by Dean Pemberton 09 Sep '13

09 Sep '13

Given that protocols and standards effect NZ network operators, this seems to be on topic. Seeing how IETF handles these issues and rebuilds trust will be interesting. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alicia Jackson <jackson(a)isoc.org> Date: 10 September 2013 08:03 Subject: [isoc-advisory-council] STATEMENT: Internet Society Responds to Reports of the U.S. Government’s Circumvention of Encryption Technology To: "isoc-advisory-council(a)elists.isoc.org" <isoc-advisory-council(a)elists.isoc.org> Internet Society Responds to Reports of the U.S. Government’s Circumvention of Encryption Technology The Internet Society is alarmed by continuing reports alleging systematic United States government efforts to circumvent Internet security mechanisms. The Internet Society President and CEO, Lynn St. Amour, said, “If true, these reports describe government programmes that undermine the technical foundations of the Internet and are a fundamental threat to the Internet’s economic, innovative, and social potential. Any systematic, state-level attack on Internet security and privacy is a rejection of the global, collaborative fabric that has enabled the Internet's growth to extend beyond the interests of any one country.” The Internet Society believes that global interoperability and openness of the Internet are pre-requisites for confidence in online interaction, they unlock the Internet as a forum for economic and social progress, and they are founded on basic assumptions of trust. We are deeply concerned that these principles are being eroded and that users' legitimate expectations of online security are being treated with contempt. As the institutional home of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), we believe that open and transparent processes are essential for security standardization, and result in better outcomes than any alternative approach. For example, protocols developed by the IETF are open for all to see, inspect, and verify, as are the open and inclusive processes by which they are specified. IETF Chairman Jari Arkko has strongly reiterated the IETF’s commitment to improving security in the Internet, and to seeking ways of improving security protocols in light of these new revelations and security threats. “The IETF has a long-standing commitment to openness and transparency in developing security protocols for the Internet, and sees this as critical to confidence in their use and implementation.” To read more, visit: http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/09/security-and-pervasive-monitoring/. However, the open development of robust technical specifications is just one link in the chain. Security standards must be properly implemented and used. This is a wake-up call for technology developers and adopters alike, to reexamine what we can do to ensure that all links in the chain are equally strong. This is key to helping restore public trust and confidence in the Internet. The Internet has tremendous potential for economic and social good, but unless all stakeholders trust the Internet as a safe place for business, social interaction, academic enquiry, and self-expression, those economic and social benefits are put at risk. To fulfill its potential, the Internet must be underpinned by the right combination of technology, operational processes, legislation, policy, and governance. The recent reports suggest that U.S. Government programmes have systematically undermined some or all of those measures, and that is why we view the revelations with such grave concern. With this mind, we issue these calls to action for the global community: • To every citizen of the Internet: let your government representatives know that, even in matters of national security, you expect privacy, rule of law, and due process in any handling of your data. Security is a collective responsibility that involves multiple stakeholders. In this regard, we call on: •Those involved in technology research and development: use the openness of standards processes like the IETF to challenge assumptions about security specifications. •Those who implement the technology and standards for Internet security: uphold that responsibility in your work, and be mindful of the damage caused by loss of trust. •Those who develop products and services that depend on a trusted Internet: secure your own services, and be intolerant of insecurity in the infrastructure on which you depend. •To every Internet user: ensure you are well informed about good practice in online security, and act on that information. Take responsibility for your own security. At the Internet Society, we remain committed to advancing work in areas such as browser security, privacy settings, and digital footprint awareness in order to help users understand and manage their privacy and security. The citizens of the Internet deserve a global and open platform for communication built on solid foundations of security and privacy. _______________________________________________ Isoc-advisory-council mailing list Isoc-advisory-council(a)elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/isoc-advisory-council

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One block of AS Numbers allocated to the RIPE NCC
by Leo Vegoda 08 Sep '13

08 Sep '13

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of one block of 1,024 AS Numbers to the RIPE NCC in September 2013: 61952-62463 Assigned by RIPE NCC whois.ripe.net 2013-09-09 199680-200191 Assigned by RIPE NCC whois.ripe.net 2013-09-09 You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/ Regards, Leo Vegoda ICANN IANA

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Maxnet/Vocus Colo - sublet
by Skeeve Stevens 08 Sep '13

08 Sep '13

Hey all, I am looking for about 5RU in the Maxnet/Vocus DC. I think they only sell in minimum half racks - which is excessive for our needs. Does anyone have some space they are subletting? I am also looking for a quote on a cross-connect from Maxnet DC to SkyTower. Responses off-list please (via email only!) ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/networkceoau ; blog: www.network-ceo.net The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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Mail admins for dmzglobal, yahoo and ihug
by Don Gould 04 Sep '13

04 Sep '13

Could mail admins for dmzglobal, yahoo and ihug please make them selves known off list please. I have a client who is having trouble getting mail to some of your customers. I've run a trace on our log files and proven that your mail systems are accepting mail from our server on behalf of our client. I can provide mail logs, but I'll do that directly off list. Thanks D -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb)

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Kiwicon 7 CFP
by Mike Forbes 02 Sep '13

02 Sep '13

HI NZNOG FRIENDS Just advising the list the Kiwicon 7 CFP is out. We welcome submissions from our networky chums. https://www.kiwicon.org/cfp2013.txt -- On behalf of the Kiwicon Crüe

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Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation
by Jonathan Spence 01 Sep '13

01 Sep '13

Hi everyone, Google have just started enforcing PTR records for IPv6 addresses delivering to Gmail. Our IPv6 works great with Orcon but having serious issues getting delegation back to our nameservers setup. I have been told a few times that everything is setup on their end but I don't think it is. Our IP space: 2400:4800:4017::/48 is meant to be sent to ns1.power-business.co.nz and ns2.power-business.co.nz. However it doesn't seem to. For example our website is:2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f If I query ns1.power-business.co.nz from my home computer is works fine: -----command----- C:\Users\Jonathan Spence>nslookup 2400:4800:4017:0200:0250:56ff:fe90:082f 60.234.77.213 Server: UnKnown Address: 60.234.77.213 Name: midas.power-business.co.nz Address: 2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f ------ end command ----- However other hosts don't resolve this. When using this tool it doesn't work failing when reaching Orcon's nameserver: http://www.simpledns.com/lookup-dg.aspx Can anyone comment? Thanks, Jonathan ------- output ------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns4.apnic.net (no IP address) -> apnic1.dnsnode.net (no IP address) -> ns3.apnic.net (no IP address) -> tinnie.arin.net (no IP address) -> ns2.lacnic.net (no IP address) -> sec1.authdns.ripe.net (no IP address) -> ns1.apnic.net (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" to IP address 194.146.106.106 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (194.146.106.106) ---------------------------------------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.0.8.4.0.0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns1.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) -> ns2.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" to IP address 210.55.12.2 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (210.55.12.2) ---------------------------------------- Received authoritative (AA) response: -> Header: Non-Existent Domain ----- end output ----- Jonathan Spence Chief Information Officer Mobile: +64-21-1055634 Work: +64-9-9503306 Web: power-business.co.nz The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipient names. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. Views expressed in this message may notnecessarily be those of Power Business Services Limited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments.

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DNS hijacking of a few domains
by Blair Harrison 27 Aug '13

27 Aug '13

Hi Folks, Seems like there has been a bit of DNS hijacking happening today - NYTimes.com as one of the targets - you may wish to look at flushing your recursive nameserver caches.. See this dns-oarc post for more details. https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2013-August/010617.html Cheers, Blair

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Colo in SkyTower
by Skeeve Stevens 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

Hey all, I am wondering who is offering Colo in Sky Tower. I am looking at 2 or 3RU. Just feeling out pricing for a project I am scoping out. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/networkceoau ; blog: www.network-ceo.net The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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APNIC 36 - Join the Webcast
by Elly Tawhai 25 Aug '13

25 Aug '13

Hi NZNOG Community, APNIC 36 Webcast is going to start in 15 minutes. There will be two parallel live webcasts. You can access then from here http://conference.apnic.net/36/program#broadcast Hope you can all join the webcast to take part in APNIC 36 sessions from Xian, China. See you online! Kind regards, Elly APNIC

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Deep rack available in Auckland
by Alexander Neilson 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

I am looking for a large (42RU or taller) and deep (900mm) 19" rack lying around in Auckland (or for sale, in stock, in Auckland) We can't wait for standard lead times sorry so looking for someone with an empty one wanting to get it hauled away for free and re used or someone who sells / supplies them based in Auckland holding stock on premises. Looking for off list replies / suggestions / options Thank you all Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Fibre / Connectivity issues - Sky Tower?
by Barry Murphy 12 Aug '13

12 Aug '13

Hey guys Anyone seeing any issues with GGI / Chorus, particularly Sky Tower. We lost Chorus Auckland UFB for 8 minutes, physical interface down. We lost a 1Gb GGI International circuit to one of our clients in Sky Tower but no traffic passing. Also had reports of some other fibre circuits having issues that terminate to Sky & MDR though these have not been confirmed. Many thanks Barry Murphy

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Call for Papers for NZNOG 2014
by Dean Pemberton 08 Aug '13

08 Aug '13

Call for papers - NZNOG 2014 Doing something interesting in the Internetworking space? Submit an NZNOG conference paper and you could win a trip to the next APRICOT meeting in Bangkok Thailand! ---- The NZNOG organising committee invites papers for its 13th annual conference, to be hosted at the Rutherford Hotel, Nelson, New Zealand from 27 – 31 January 2014. There will the three day Workshops 27 – 29 January, a day of tutorials on 29 January with the main conference on 30 – 31 January. The best local conference paper as judged by the trustees in association with the programme committee will win a trip to APRICOT 2014, to be held in Bangkok, Thailand, 18-28 February 2014. So, get writing! Conference objective: The NZNOG conference, workshops and tutorials are a once-a-year opportunity for individuals and organisations involved in Internet operations to meet and share the latest in Internet operations, technologies practises and receive high quality training. The event is unique in New Zealand and attracts technical, skilled individuals with a genuine interest in Internet operations and Internetworking technologies. Submit a paper: Presenters are invited to submit abstracts of their paper for consideration by Monday 21st October. Abstracts should be no more than one page long and provide a summary of your networking-related subject matter. Please note that full slide decks will be required by 18th November. To submit your paper please e-mail: talks(a)nznog.org When considering a presentation, remember that the NZNOG audience is mainly comprised of technical network operators and engineers with a wide range of experience levels from beginners to multi-year experience. There is a strong orientation to offer core skills and basic knowledge in SIGs and to address issues relevant to the day-to-day operations of ISPs and network operators in the conference sessions. Note: The inclusion of a title, bio, topic, abstract, and slides with proposals is not compulsory but will help us determine the quality of your proposal and increase the likelihood it will be accepted. The organising committee will evaluate abstracts based on fit with the conference’s objective and its ability to stimulate lively discussions around the current state of New Zealand networking. The best local paper will be judged by a selection of the trustees and the programme committee. Return flights from New Zealand, accommodation, and conference fees will be covered. It will be expected the best paper is submitted by the winner for presentation at APRICOT. More details on paper submission can be found at http://www.nznog.org/call-for-papers For more information about the conference visit www.nznog.org or contact: talks(a)nznog.org

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Call for NZNOG 2014 Programme Committee participants
by Dean Pemberton 08 Aug '13

08 Aug '13

Afternoon everyone, The NZNOG 2014 Programme Committee is responsible for the solicitation and selection of suitable presentation and tutorial content for the NZNOG 2014 conference (www.nznog.org) The NZNOG Trustees selects a new Programme Committee each year and is now seeking nominations from the community. Eligible PC candidates are those who have attended NZNOG conferences in the recent past, have broad technical knowledge of Internet operations, and have reasonable familiarity with the format of NZNOG conferences. Having constructive opinions and ideas about how the programme content might be improved is of high value too. PC members are expected to work actively to solicit content for the event and review submissions for technical merit. The PC will meet by regular conference calls, during the months prior to the event. If you are interested in joining the PC send a brief note to "trustees at nznog.org". The note should include affiliation (if any) and contact details (including e-mail address), and a brief description of why you would make a good addition to the PC. PC members receive complimentary registration for the event. The NZNOG Trustees will accept nominations received by the end of Friday 30th August, 2013, and will announce the new PC shortly thereafter. Many thanks! NZNOG Trustees

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Policy Proposals at APNIC36
by Dean Pemberton 07 Aug '13

07 Aug '13

Hi all, There are currently 3 policies for consideration at the APNIC 36 meeting Xi'an at the end of August. They are: prop-108 Suggested changes to the APNIC Policy Development Process prop-107 AS number transfer policy proposal prop-105 Distribution of returned IPv4 address (Modification of prop-088) I'll go through briefly what the proposals and where appropriate what I think about them. I'm going to be one of the NZers at the meeting, if there is a point of view that you'd like me to keep in mind during the discussion there then just drop me a line. Regards, Dean prop-108 Suggested changes to the APNIC Policy Development Process ----- Proposed by Dean Pemberton[1] and Izumi Okutani (JPNIC) This proposal seeks to clarify a set of 3 issues with the current PDP which were highlighted during the last meeting in Singapore. The issues are: **Timing Requirements for the Policy-SIG chairs to announce consensus** in the Open Policy Meeting (OPM)** At the moment the Chair calls for consensus on proposals during the OPM and then moves to immediately gauge if consensus has been reached. Due to the nebulous nature of gauging consensus, the Chairs have expressed a desire to be allowed an opportunity to discuss among themselves if consensus has been reached. This proposal seeks to give them this ability as long as a determination on consensus is delivered before the end of the OPM. **Requiring for consensus to be called and demonstrated at the AMM** A historical artefact from the days when there were multiple SIGs within APNIC all producing policy requires that proposals not only gain consensus at their individual OPMs, but also again when the whole membership comes together a day later at the APNIC Members Meeting. This was done to ensure that if there were conflicting policies produced by two SIGs at the same meeting, this would become obvious during the second call for consensus at the AMM and resolved. Now that the Policy-SIG is the only policy-generating body within APNIC, this is no longer necessary and creates confusion as to why a second consensus call is required. This proposal seeks to remove the requirement for a second call for consensus at the AMM unless the SIG Chair deems that it is necessary for any reason. **The length of the required comment period for successful policy proposals after the AMM** Once a policy proposal has gained consensus at the OPM/AMM, it is returned to the mailing list for a comment period lasting 8 weeks. This was historically to allow members not at the OPM/AMM to contribute on the mailing list. In practice there is little to no comment during this time, with all comment on a proposal happening before the OPM. This has the effect of delaying any policy implementations for 8 weeks. This proposal seeks to shorten this comment period to a minimum of 2 weeks unless the SIG Chair deems that it should be longer. Pros: Streamlines the process and removes some of the things which make the PDP a pain Cons: Some members may feel that it gives the Policy-SIG power to implement policy without AMM oversight. In practice this isn't the case as the APNIC exec council has the final decision on policy introduction. prop-107 AS number transfer policy proposal ----- Proposed by Tomohiro Fujisaki There have been a lot of policies dealing with the transfer of IPv4 addresses as RIRs reached exhaustion. What has not been dealt with however are any policies around transferring AS numbers either between APNIC members, or between APNIC members and members of other RIRs. While this is not a huge problem in terms of demand (actual numbers are hard to get, but I’ve been told there are a non-zero number of applicants), it would be good to close this gap in current policy. Generally I'm supportive. Pros: Makes a level playing field between AS numbers and other IP resources in relation to transfer policy Cons: More policy for an area which doesn’t have a significant demand. prop-105 Distribution of returned IPv4 address (Modification of prop-088) ----- Proposed by Tomohiro Fujisaki This one is a bit more contentious. At present APNIC is operating under a policy of only giving a single block of 1024 IPv4 addresses out to any existing or new members. This is basically because they are all gone. Once you get this special last block (being called a 'last slash-8 block') you can never get any more IPv4 addresses. The thing is... IANA has a few more numbers which they can give out. These are dregs which other people have given back to IANA and they are preparing to hand them out to the RIRs. So the question is, what should APNIC do with those addresses? There aren’t THAT many of them (probably about 4 million, but don't quote me), certainly not enough to go back to the old way of allocating them (they would last less than a few months). Should they just be placed into the current pool and treated the same as the 'last slash-8' addresses, or, as this proposal suggests, should APNIC members be allowed a second bite at the cherry? This policy proposes that members be allowed one allocation from the 'last slash-8' and then an additional allocation from any addresses returned by IANA. Opinion is divided here. Some feel that it gives people one last hope for IPv4 when they should be concentrating on deploying IPv6, while others say that they need just a few more addresses to tide them over. Still others say that it should only be available to developing nations or organisations with small allocations already. I'm on the fence here, but I think that the framework we would need to put in place to administer this would outweigh the benefit gained from offering another allocation to members. I'm currently in favour of just putting them in the existing pool and carrying on as we do today. I’ll be meeting with the author in Xi’an to see if there is any convincing argument the other way. If anyone has any feedback on this one let me know. Pros: Gets addresses out to people who need them Cons: Gives an inaccurate impression that there are any more IPv4 addresses left. People should be moving their large IP address demands to IPv6 [1] While I have strived for balance in this assessment, readers should be aware that I am a co-author of the proposal. -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To protect and promote the Internet for New Zealand.

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smilecity.co.nz routing issue
by Alexander Neilson 06 Aug '13

06 Aug '13

Hi Everyone Can anyone on here (or someone from smilycity ops) contact me please. >From inside our network I am seeing trace routes like this: Serenity:Dude alexander$ traceroute smilecity.co.nz traceroute to smilecity.co.nz (202.177.214.122), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 172.31.2.1 (172.31.2.1) 0.510 ms 0.331 ms 0.295 ms 2 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.456 ms 0.381 ms 0.306 ms 3 113.197.96.18 (113.197.96.18) 3.943 ms 3.854 ms 4.531 ms 4 103.9.216.18 (103.9.216.18) 10.741 ms 10.409 ms 10.276 ms 5 103.9.216.17 (103.9.216.17) 10.374 ms 10.706 ms 10.324 ms 6 203.167.223.89 (203.167.223.89) 16.319 ms 15.262 ms 16.715 ms 7 ge-0-2-0-914.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net (203.98.42.17) 15.760 ms 11.881 ms 20.355 ms 8 * unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.37) 21.230 ms 16.681 ms 9 i-0-0-4-1.sydo-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.142.149) 40.901 ms 46.391 ms 39.776 ms 10 tengige0-1-0-11.oxf-gw1.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.165) 37.536 ms 38.606 ms 40.730 ms 11 bundle-ether2.oxf-gw2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.86) 39.208 ms 45.322 ms 38.338 ms 12 bundle-ether1.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.89) 37.451 ms 43.868 ms 42.258 ms 13 10gigabitethernet7-1.chw45.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.20.183) 44.120 ms 37.368 ms 45.299 ms 14 equini3.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.117.214) 46.450 ms 43.879 ms 38.092 ms 15 ge-3-2.br103.sy1.ap.equinix.com (27.111.240.158) 41.385 ms 37.662 ms 40.540 ms 16 ge-3-1.br101.sy1.ap.equinix.com (202.177.217.181) 45.515 ms 37.164 ms 48.858 ms 17 * * * 18 * * * ^C Serenity:Dude alexander$ traceroute smilecity.co.nz traceroute to smilecity.co.nz (202.177.214.122), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 172.31.2.1 (172.31.2.1) 0.536 ms 0.325 ms 0.363 ms 2 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.438 ms 0.451 ms 0.451 ms 3 113.197.96.18 (113.197.96.18) 3.944 ms 4.262 ms 4.055 ms 4 103.9.216.18 (103.9.216.18) 10.531 ms 10.460 ms 10.452 ms 5 103.9.216.17 (103.9.216.17) 10.377 ms 10.452 ms 10.407 ms 6 203.167.223.89 (203.167.223.89) 12.253 ms 19.681 ms 11.798 ms 7 ge-0-2-0-914.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net (203.98.42.17) 11.325 ms 12.228 ms 17.588 ms 8 unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.37) 12.124 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.41) 16.676 ms unknown.telstraglobal.net (134.159.174.37) 17.402 ms 9 * i-0-0-4-1.sydo-core02.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.142.149) 37.856 ms 38.422 ms 10 tengige0-1-0-11.oxf-gw1.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.165) 40.765 ms 41.609 ms 39.188 ms 11 bundle-ether2.oxf-gw2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.86) 39.683 ms 40.859 ms 39.406 ms 12 bundle-ether1.chw-core2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.89) 37.026 ms 41.156 ms 44.457 ms 13 10gigabitethernet7-1.chw45.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.20.183) 38.273 ms 38.520 ms 37.169 ms 14 equini3.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.117.214) 43.372 ms 42.876 ms 40.542 ms 15 ge-3-2.br103.sy1.ap.equinix.com (27.111.240.158) 50.179 ms 49.605 ms 48.397 ms 16 ge-3-1.br101.sy1.ap.equinix.com (202.177.217.181) 50.201 ms 47.475 ms 54.071 ms 17 * * * 18 * * * ^C However from kcbbs.gen.nz trace route tool I see: traceroute to smilecity.co.nz (202.177.214.122), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 f0-1-0-15-c7507-1.kc.net.nz (202.27.217.193) 0.608 ms 0.552 ms 1.452 ms 2 domr1.kci.net.nz (202.27.217.135) 0.739 ms 0.873 ms 0.678 ms 3 vocus1.ape.nzix.net (192.203.154.123) 1.047 ms 1.005 ms 0.983 ms 4 ten-0-2-0-400.bdr01.akl01.akl.VOCUS.net.au (114.31.202.43) 24.834 ms 25.714 ms 25.57 ms 5 ten-0-1-0-0.cor01.alb01.akl.VOCUS.net.nz (114.31.202.86) 25.069 ms ten-0-1-0-1.cor01.alb01.akl.VOCUS.net.nz (114.31.202.67) 26.103 ms ten-0-1-0-0.cor01.alb01.akl.VOCUS.net.nz (114.31.202.86) 25.668 ms 6 ten-0-0-0-2.cor03.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (114.31.199.116) 25.569 ms 25.356 ms 25.368 ms 7 ten-0-1-0-3.cor01.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.225) 25.556 ms ten-0-5-0-1.cor01.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.118) 24.679 ms ten-0-1-0-3.cor01.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.225) 25.096 ms 8 ge-0-0-0.bdr02.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.78) 24.974 ms ip-123.72.45.175.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.123) 24.761 ms ge-0-0-1.bdr02.syd04.nsw.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.72.80) 24.471 ms 9 ip-194.73.45.175.VOCUS.net.au (175.45.73.194) 26.621 ms 38.67 ms 25.987 ms 10 xe-0-1-1.gw101.sy1.ap.equinix.com (27.111.240.144) 26.464 ms 25.811 ms 25.527 ms 11 ge-3-2.br101.sy1.ap.equinix.com (27.111.240.154) 31.744 ms 26.245 ms 26.222 ms 12 202.177.214.66 (202.177.214.66) 26.129 ms 25.577 ms 26.983 ms 13 202.177.214.122 (202.177.214.122) 26.725 ms 25.909 ms 25.476 ms and down for everyone or just me tells me its up for others. We don't have a vocus pipe for me to re route though or test from this location. This has been happening for a while and is not a new issue today. traffic is coming from 113.197.96.0/22 I will be raising it with Telstra NOC but as the loss seems to happen inside Equinix I wondered if anyone from smile city themselves may be able to help Will be cross posted to AUSNOG re: equinix Off list replies welcomed. Regards Alexander Alexander Neilson Neilson Productions Limited alexander(a)neilson.net.nz 021 329 681 022 456 2326

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Commsday: New NSA training deck reveals servers in ANZ
by Skeeve Stevens 01 Aug '13

01 Aug '13

Hey all, I haven't seen any discussion on AUSNOG/NZNOG about the details revealed in the XKeyscore presentation ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/jul/31/nsa-xkeyscore-prog… ). If, as expected, more revelations and details emerge, then there might be ISPs and carriers in the ANZ region who are complicit in assisting in this programme... In Australia I am expecting the Internet Society in Australia, the Australian Privacy Foundation, the EFA, and others to be having something to say about this. This is from 2008... I'd hate to think to what extent their capabilities are now. Discussion? ;-) ----- New NSA training deck reveals servers in ANZ A NSA presentation newly leaked by former government employee Edward Snowden detailing a global online surveillance system clearly shows infrastructure inside the borders of Australia and New Zealand. According to a map shown in the 2008 training presentation on a program called XKeyscore, there are at least four surveillance nodes in Australia and at least one in New Zealand. The actual map does not specify the exact location of the nodes, but they roughly correspond to coordinates near Darwin, Perth, Sydney, and Alice Springs. The document also explicitly names Australia and New Zealand, along with Canada and Great Britain in its footnotes although their exact roles remained unclear. At the time the presentation was created, XKeyscore covered “approximately 150 sites” and operated “over 700 servers.” According to the presentation, XKeyscore used the servers to gather data on internet activity by users. The data is then catalogued by different variables, including phone numbers, email addresses, log ins and user activity through the use of metadata tables. Once indexed, the information is searchable by NSA operatives via different parameters, such as geography, encryption, language, and even web searches, the material asserted. The author of the presentation said XKeyscore has led to the arrest of 300 terrorists. But Australia’s Pirate Party, which has put forth two candidates for Senate in Queensland and New South Wales, warns the revelation could have far wider implications for Australians. “The implications of all these revelations are troubling and it should concern all Australians that Australian spy agencies may be using US surveillance programs and information-sharing agreements to bypass local restrictions and safeguards,” the Pirate Party said in a release. “As Australians, the US agencies see us as ‘foreign’ and thus not even the minimal safeguards that apply to US citizens would apply to Australians under these programs.” Tony Chan ----- Remember... Read it first in Commsday - www.commsday.com.au - Subscribe today. .Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/networkceoau ; blog: www.network-ceo.net The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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Inaugral Meeting of the NZ OpenStack Users Group
by Andrew Ruthven 29 Jul '13

29 Jul '13

Hey, A bunch of us who are working with OpenStack in New Zealand are putting together a users group. If you're working with or on OpenStack, or even if you just want to, then we'd love to hear from you. What is OpenStack? OpenStack is a global collaboration of developers and cloud computing technologists producing the ubiquitous open source cloud computing platform for public and private clouds. The project aims to deliver solutions for all types of clouds by being simple to implement, massively scalable, and feature rich. The technology consists of a series of interrelated projects delivering various components for a cloud infrastructure solution. [0] The first meeting is to determine where everyone is at with OpenStack. Do you have a 3 node or a 10,000 node cluster*[1]? Are you a core developer on an OpenStack project, or do you want to be? (Does that thought terrify you? That's okay as well.) >From this initial meeting we'd like to work out what topic areas are of interest to the larger group, and who is willing to talk about their areas of interest. Practical details: When: 6pm on 26 August Duration: Probably an hour and a half Website: http://www.meetup.com/New-Zealand-OpenStack-User-Group Location: Level 3 Catalyst House 150 Willis Street Wellington The front door of Catalyst House locks at 6pm, there'll be a sign on the door with someones' phone number on it. There'll be beer, non-beer and nibbles. [2] Cheers! [0] Pinched from http://www.openstack.org [1] You don't need to have a cluster to come along, that's okay, we can help there as well. [2] Thank you to Catalyst IT for sponsoring this event. -- Andrew Ruthven, Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | linux.conf.au 2014 | Come swan on the Swan River | http://lca2014.linux.org.au -- Andrew Ruthven, Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | linux.conf.au 2014 | Come swan on the Swan River | http://lca2014.linux.org.au

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Want to go to Bali?
by Dean Pemberton 24 Jul '13

24 Jul '13

Hi all, I wanted to make sure you know that applications are open for InternetNZ fellowships to attend the Global Internet Governance Forum (IGF) to be held in Bali, Indonesia 21-25 October 2013. About the IGF: The IGF is the global multistakeholder Internet event, which brings together people from all over the world to talk about Internet issues and policy. Find out more here: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/aboutigf Regional and national IGF initatives, such as our very own event NetHui, are ideal to feed into the global event. InternetNZ is keen to encourage the Internet community to attend, especially as this year's IGF is relatively close to us, in the Asia-Pacific region, being held in Bali Indonesia. Find out more about the event here: http://igf2013.or.id/ What's on offer: These fellowships are designed to enable NetHui participants and the wider Internet Community to join in the discussions and proceedings this year in Bali. InternetNZ is seeking to award Fellowships across the wide range of interests and topics under discussion at the IGF. InternetNZ will provide fellowship funding to up to 4 New Zealanders to attend. Fellowship funding is limited to no more than $2,500, which will probably require some additional funding to be secured or provided by the applicant. Applications close tomorrow 26 July so get an application quick if you are interested! https://internetnz.net.nz/content/InternetNZ-IGF-Bali-Fellowships -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To protect and promote the Internet for New Zealand.

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Global IPv6 Deployment Survey- Still Open for Participation
by Elly Tawhai 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

________________________________________________________________________ Global IPv6 Deployment Survey ________________________________________________________________________ Hi NZNOG Community, The 2013 Global IPv6 Deployment Survey is still open for participation to Wednesday, 31 July. Please take a few minutes to complete the survey at: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/GlobalIPv6survey2013 The purpose of the survey is to better understand what can be done to increase IPv6 adoption in the Asia Pacific region and worldwide. We appreciate your time and interest in completing this survey. If you have any questions concerning the survey, please send an email to: info(a)gnksconsult.com Kind regards, Elly APNIC

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★ Nznog, Jonas Bergler left a message for you
by Blendr 19 Jul '13

19 Jul '13

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Simon Hackett talks about Australia's NBN
by Andy Linton 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

This was posted on the PICISOC list. NBN ~= UFB? If you've got a spare 20 minutes, this is worth a read and a watch: http://simonhackett.com/2013/07/17/nbn-fibre-on-a-copper-budget/

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iSky
by Jesse Archer 17 Jul '13

17 Jul '13

Anyone from Sky TV NOC on this list? We've got users on our new network reporting they can't use iSky services. We'd like to find a solution so if you are from Sky TV NOC or can point me towards someone who can help, that would be great.

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DNS Specialist position available at NZRS
by Sebastian Castro 16 Jul '13

16 Jul '13

Hi: I'll be leaving my position as DNS Specialist to move into Technical Research within NZRS, opening up a vacant. An updated draft of the job description is attached. If you have any questions about the role, feel free to contact me privately. If you see yourself as the right fit and want to talk about the hiring process, please contact our CEO, Jay Daley(jay(a)nzrs.net.nz) Cheers, -- Sebastian Castro DNS Specialist .nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited) desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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OT - 1/3 Rack Cabinet Manufacturers
by Liam Farr 12 Jul '13

12 Jul '13

Hi, Can anyone recommend a Manufacturer of 1/3 (think 12 RU ish) rack cabinets that has NZ distribution? Particularly ones that are solid enough to be stacked / bolted together? (Not the wall mount type). So far I have just found the Eaton (Wright Line) Vantage range, but I don't believe there is local stock. Cheers Liam

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Off List Replies Please: Quotes for IP Transit
by Alexander Neilson 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

Slightly early for Beer O'clock but, Beer We have reached the cap of our existing IP Transit capabilities and have requesting pricing and lead time from our existing provider for increased capacity. If anyone on list is providing IP Transit and can handover to us in SkyTower L48 we would be interested in seeing price per Mbps for Domestic and also for International. This is a pricing comparison as we are very happy with the service level of our existing provider. Price advantage would need to be substantial to more or possibly a backup feed etc. Please can any replies be sent directly to me and not to the list. Simply posted here to invite to treat. Looking for pricing in the few 100's of Mbps each of Domestic and International transit. Thank you Now back to the regular Beer Schedule (I mean intense discussions of network operations) Regards Alexander

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Douglas Englebart - inventor of the mouse
by Richard Naylor 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/07/03/the-inventor-of-…

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