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Re: [nznog] Temporary IP tunnel to Digiweb
by Stephen Sheehan 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

The tunnel through Jasper fell through, can anyone else help? Thanks Stephen Chillisoft ltd --- Stephen Sheehan <axpunix(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: Stephen Sheehan <axpunix(a)yahoo.com> > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [nznog] Temporary IP tunnel to Digiweb > > Hi, > > Is anyone able to provide an IP tunnel to bypass the > telstra clear outage, 128k will be fine. We need > access to our extranet based at digiweb in > christchurch. > > Thanks > > Stephen > Chillisoft Ltd > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Temporary IP tunnel to Digiweb
by Stephen Sheehan 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Hi, Is anyone able to provide an IP tunnel to bypass the telstra clear outage, 128k will be fine. We need access to our extranet based at digiweb in christchurch. Thanks Stephen Chillisoft Ltd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Email to SMS gateway
by Clark Mills 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Hi all. I read this on one of our internal mailing lists, thought it might be of interest / use. We use something like this for server monitoring but it's not so good if your email server / network is down, aside from the potential lagginess [SP?] that sometimes occurs with the SMS service. Still, it may have some value to you. Of course if any information below is wrong, please let me know. Cheers... Clark ================================================================================= [forwarded & edited] If you are on Vodafone, you can 'register' you phone by texting the letter R to the number 901. You should then get back a 'you are registered etc' welcome message. Once your phone is registered anyone/thing can send you a txt by using an email address such as: 6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz Where your mobile number is presumed to be 021-123456. As far as I know, there is no charge for this service.

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Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway
by Stewart Fleming 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

We use the Psychic Hotline. When anything is about to go down, they give us a call and we can get it fixed before it causes a problem. -- -- Tel: 03 474 2100 Cell: 021 993 125 Web: www.wic.co.nz Co-location and Web hosting. Dunedin-wide wireless. Independent Internet Service Provider.

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Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway
by Phill Mckenna 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

We use a combination of SMS messages sent via a Wavecom GSM Modem for server and network link and services monitoring, and our main alarm system connects via xml to a "datashed" gateway which gives us handset availability notification, automatic escalation and fallback to a Telecom CDMA modem for backup. In addition we send a test message once an hour to a remote site, if the message isn't heard, it triggers a timer that eventually triggers a voice dialer. Telecom paging was our previous provider, however as they keep continuing to threaten to phase this out, we moved over to SMS some time ago. Phill Mckenna Operations Technology Manager Kapiti Coast District Council Operations Centre DDI: +64 4 296 4753 Fax: +64 4 296 4733 Mobile: +64 027 555 5753 E mail: phill.mckenna(a)kapiticoast.govt.nz -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Johnson [mailto:aj(a)sneep.net] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:30 a.m. To: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway Erin Salmon - Unleash wrote: > We actually use a Nokia cellphone and a data cable. I'm not aware of a > method which guarantees delivery. We are in the CBD and I note sometimes > when all those nightclubbers are frantically messaging each other messages > occasionally don't make it to the recipient. Best solution to my mind is > just to send a message periodically until a reply is sent to the system to > dismiss the notification. That is a reasonably practical solution. It has the nice side effect of ensuring that even if the message does get delivered, whoever is on call isn't ignoring it. I looked at this a while ago, and used an external mail-to-SMS provider (Bulletin Wireless) which worked fine. Obviously having an out-of-band path to them is also handy. As someone else mentioned, Telecom's analog paging service is also reliable and easy to automate. Pagers tend to work when out of cell coverage or in deep dark basements. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog ##################################################################################### This e-mail message and any attached files may contain confidential information, and may be subject to legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete. Unless formally stated, this e-mail and any attachments do not necessarily reflect the views of the Kapiti Coast District Council. The Council takes extensive precautions with the aim of detecting and removing any virus or defects from its e-mail system but accepts no liability for loss or damage should this e-mail not be virus or defect free or should there be any errors in transmission. #####################################################################################

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Vodafone Peering
by Philip D'Ath 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Does Vodafone peer with anybody in NZ? I've been playing with an HSPDA card, and every traceroute (even to IHUG!) always go directly to the US. I would thought they would at least peer with the other two major Telco's in NZ.

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Re: [nznog] Save your money and hassle
by John ＠ netTRUST 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

> [Reply] > > John, > > What do you use to drive it? I see the ActiveXperts software is another > US$395 .... > > Must be a simpler way. SMS link http://smslink.sourceforge.net/ Pro's works well once setup and tuned. Has support for MySQL Supports all major SMS modems though I'm unsure of the support for Nokia or any cellphone. Con's - slow to process send / receive (as is most software because the msgs get stored on the SIM card first) Good for low traffic, unsuited to bulk send/receive. Note to the person suggesting using a cellphone. SMS modems use a pretty standardised AT command set and you talk to them just like you would to a modem. Cellphones AFAIK usually have proprietory interfaces.

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Save your money and hassle
by John ＠ netTRUST 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

We exclusively use SMS modems here. The Wavecom is the best you can buy and only slightly dearer then the cheaper models. http://www.itx.co.nz/index.php?cPath=29 is a company I've dealt with before and they are allright.

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Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway
by Philip D'Ath 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Actually, SMS does offer "guaranteed" delivery. It doesn't matter if the phone is off, an error occurs in communication, a data circuit goes down ... However there are limits. If the message cannot be delivered (such as end device failure) then you can request a receipt to get notification of this. I don't recall ever noticing a lag of hours for SMS delivery (I don't ever recall a TXT taking more than 60s to be delivered) but I guess different TXT processing systems use different methods for getting the TXT into the network for delivery. -----Original Message----- From: Jasper Bryant-Greene [mailto:j(a)digiweb.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:15 a.m. To: Philip D'Ath Cc: Samuel Collinson; Dan Clark; NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway On this - we have found SMS to be a bit unreliable lately, with messages being delivered hours late or not at all. I am aware that SMS does not provide "guaranteed delivery" - what methods are others on this list using to send alerts reliably? Cheers Jasper

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Affordable Voltage Monitoring over Ethernet?
by Dan Clark 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Gidday, Just wondering if any network operators etc here are using or have seen any kind of device that can measure voltage/current out there somewhere on a network and we can interrogate it remotely and may even send alerts etc if drops below threshold etc? Would have to be resonably affordable, and in simple kit form or off the shelf. If nothing available that anyone can think of I may develop something along these lines, cheap, simple, ethernet, and probably 12V Open for discussion if anyone remotely interested. Regards Dan

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MP3 streaming data usage
by John ＠ netTRUST 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Anyone have any idea how much data would be consumed each day streaming MP3 at 128kbps audio stream rate? Thanks.

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Re: [nznog] MP3 streaming data usage
by Richard Naylor 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

At 03:38 p.m. 16/04/2007 +1200, Neil Gardner wrote: >Ergh... Hate to say this, but don't you have that 10 bits to the byte >thing approximately ass-backwards? No. As I said, I come from an Ancient World (TM), where we debugged protocols like DDCMP with a Tek Logic Analayser, scope or logic probe. None of this Ethereal stuff, ethernet hadn't escaped from PARC and Vint was still drawing on envelopes. RS-232 was modern, current loop was till very active (sorry, no pun intended). (Probably Michael Newberry is the only one who will get it anyway, Andy and Sid say they're too young, and the others are looking blank) Each Byte is (or was) a START bit, 8 data bits, PARITY and a STOP or IDLE bit. So we always approximated it to 10 bits. (different devices handle parity bits different ways, it used to be that if there was no parity, no bit was used. LSI USARTS started the trend towards always having a bit used. This is a world where a serial port took up a whole UNIBUS slot (ie a card 400mm by 200mm). As I said, its an approximation for budgeting purposes and comes from an ancient era. Have you found the beer yet ? R

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Re: [nznog] Affordable Voltage Monitoring over Ethernet?
by Richard Naylor 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

At 04:10 p.m. 16/04/2007 +1200, Dan Clark wrote: >Gidday, > Just wondering if any network operators etc here are using or have seen > any kind of device that can measure voltage/current out there somewhere > on a network and we can interrogate it remotely and may even send alerts > etc if drops below threshold etc? >Would have to be resonably affordable, and in simple kit form or off the >shelf. > >If nothing available that anyone can think of I may develop something >along these lines, cheap, simple, ethernet, and probably 12V >Open for discussion if anyone remotely interested. google for a Link-10 or Link-20, I think they now do ethernet, it used to be serial, but you just chucked in a Lantronix thingy

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Re: [nznog] MP3 streaming data usage
by Richard Naylor 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

At 02:49 p.m. 16/04/2007 +1200, Neil Gardner wrote: >Dammit - I know we've been asked to stop this, but now something >interesting has happened... you found the beer ? >Richard, you, who I know has great experience in this, have posted >figures that are UNDER my very basic but probably right theoretical >minimums > >How do you fit 3600 seconds at 128kbps into 46MB ? I get 56.25MB... I have this ancient spreadsheet with a few assumptions.... I basically round 10bits to the byte to cover overheads in the packet, etc. So a data rate of say 128kbps is 12.8KB per sec or 0.13Mbps 768KB per minute or 7.68Mbps 46080 KB per hour or 460.9 Mbps or 46.08 MBytes per hour Remembering that you will get silence and various other things (outages, etc) it will always be an approximation. It just gives you a feel for the order of magnitude of the bill :-) Most stations actually have a second stream in reserve for special "promotional" occassions and they kick them into life every now and then, just to muck up the stats. The biggest use of it has been to work out that a 10GB plan is OK for radio stations at 32Kbps streams. Now that 40+GB plans are out, folks are looking at webcams again and it looks like we can stream a camera and stay inside a 40GB plan at 128k video, which isn't too bad looking. I should probably rework the spreadsheet for HD streams at 10Mbps. It looks like 5TB a month. And yes, IPV6 and multicast will solve all our problems, including world hunger and the endless shortage of beer. But I'm showing my age......

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Re: [nznog] IPv6 Incentive
by Scott Weeks 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

--- andy(a)nosignal.org wrote:---------------- ip is a means to an end, I don't craft packets for fun, I do work or have fun, and ip occurs as a way to send my messages from A to B. --------------------------------------------- ding, ding, ding! From the many lists discussing these issues recently, we finally have a winner! Most folk don't care about v4, v6, v8 or v<insert stuff here>. They want to do something and they 'just want it to work'. 99.999% couldn't give less than a crap how that happens. scott BTW 6,525,170,264 x .00001 = 65250 That's this: World — Population: 6,525,170,264 (July 2006 est.) https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/xx.html times one minus five nines 65250 is about how many of there are who do give more than a crap about how that happens. Beer...MMMM... 8-)

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[Fwd: Re: IPv6 Incentive]
by Gerard Creamer 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

On 13/04/2007 4:24 p.m., Craig Whitmore wrote: >> I'm not a porn fan myself, but from other types of media, 10G isn't that >> much. >> Maybe if they put 1TB of porn and 1TB of free tv content from a major >> studio, then we'd have an experiment. >> Would it be better to be Geek TV (Dr Who, Firefly, etc) or Jo Public TV (Lost, Grey's Anatomy, all 500 seasons of Coro St etc)? I think Geek TV would get more drive for it. Like it would happen though. >> > > There is some content at http://www.ipv6porn.co.nz. (If you have IPv6) Looking at http://www.v6.co.nz/ on the 'Who Provides IPv6' there's nothing - is there an NZ provider of IPv6? I know this topic has come up on the list before, and it usually degrades in circular discussions - it would be nice to hear 'Yes, ISP X offers IP6 within NZ'. Without anyone spieling on about the glories of their own wares, of course :^) Gerard

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New Sepctrum Auction
by Paul Horak 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Plans for auctioning the 2.3Ghz band for BWA/WiMAX have been published: http://www.rsm.govt.nz/auctions/auction09/index.html I think there is a real opportunity here for some of us to get access to spectrum. At present the lions share (or possibly all of it) will go to two or three companies to build a nationwide network. There is also a proposal to allocate some spectrum for regional operators under a "Managed Park". I suspect there are quite a few people interested in this who have not yet been in contact with RSM - it is essential that you let RSM know your interest and you respond to this consultation document. If the vast majority of comments come from the large providers wishing to deploy nationwide networks then I suspect there will be little or no regional spectrum available. I would also be grateful if you can contact me off list if you have an interest in obtaining spectrum for regional use. I have some ideas that might help our cause that I would like to share. Cheers, Paul NetSmart Ltd http://www.netsmart.co.nz/, Level 2, Regency House, 1 Elizabeth Street, P O Box 15020, Tauranga, New Zealand Tel: 07 5711367 Fax: 07 5711372

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Re: [nznog] IPv6 Incentive
by Scott Weeks 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

--- steve(a)focb.co.nz wrote: Scott Weeks wrote: > > --- andy(a)nosignal.org wrote:---------------- > ip is a means to an end, I don't craft packets for fun, I do work or > have fun, and ip occurs as a way to send my messages from A to B. > --------------------------------------------- > > ding, ding, ding! From the many lists discussing these issues > recently, we finally have a winner! Most folk don't care about > v4, v6, v8 or v<insert stuff here>. They want to do something > and they 'just want it to work'. 99.999% couldn't give less > than a crap how that happens. : or are you saying that there are only 65,250 clueful IP/IT : engineers in the world or people working in related fields ? This one. Clueful IP engineers in the world that also care about the version of IP used more than leaving a crap. :-) : Feel like citing references for your 99.999% figure ? It was just for fun and to make the point that most people in the world just don't care how stuff moves around the internet. They just want it to get to where they tell it to go. The five nines comes from many marketing-speak droids when telling everyone that their network has 5-nines of uptime. Of course with no more details than just that... <8-0 <== that's a crazy-eyed marketing droid babbling marketing-speak. scott

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Some graphs of .nz domain statistics
by Blair Harrison 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Hi Guys, I took some of the data provided from the DNC website here: http://dnc.org.nz/story/30221-51-1.html and turned it into some graphs. You can check this out in either HTML or XLS format at my website: http://jedi.school.nz/nzdg.html Hope this is interesting viewing for someone :) Cheers, Blair

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IPv6 Incentive
by Andrew Ruthven 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Hey, During the NZNOG conference it was joked that if the next WoW pack required IPv6 then IPv6 would be rolled out by the ISPs (and transit providers) for the next morning. See the attached mail for an experiment that might be cause it to be rolled out for that evening... Cheers! -- Andrew Ruthven, Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | This space intentionally | left blank.

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Re: [nznog] IPv6 Incentive
by Simon Lyall 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

I think this thread should confine itself to technical matters. Discussion of how to promote ipv6 usage should avoid language and concepts that might be offensive to some people (or their work's filters). Discussion about what is or is not offensive should not be conducted on the list. Simon. Moderator. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9889 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Maximum Internet Ltd - AS9889 members: 123.100.64.0/18^18-29, 202.89.32.0/19^19-29, 203.89.160.0/19^19-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 210.55.100.0/22^22-29, 210.55.104.0/22^22-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 202.6.5.0/24^24-29, 202.6.116.0/24^24-29, 202.27.204.0/24^24-29, 202.36.70.0/24^24-29, 202.36.227.0/24^24-29, 202.37.72.0/24^24-29, 202.37.181.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.150.102.0/24^24-29, 203.12.15.0/24^24-29, 203.97.42.0/24^24-29, 210.54.13.0/24^24-29, 210.54.142.0/24^24-29, 210.55.169.0/24^24-29, 210.55.214.0/24^24-29, 210.55.230.0/24^24-29, 203.167.219.56/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)maxnet.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070111 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9889 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Maximum Internet Ltd - AS9889 members: 123.100.64.0/18^18-29, 202.89.32.0/19^19-29, 203.89.160.0/19^19-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.189.160.0/21^21-29, 210.55.100.0/22^22-29, 210.55.104.0/22^22-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 202.6.5.0/24^24-29, 202.6.116.0/24^24-29, 202.27.204.0/24^24-29, 202.36.70.0/24^24-29, 202.36.227.0/24^24-29, 202.37.72.0/24^24-29, 202.37.162.0/24^24-29, 202.37.181.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.150.102.0/24^24-29, 203.12.15.0/24^24-29, 203.97.42.0/24^24-29, 210.54.13.0/24^24-29, 210.54.142.0/24^24-29, 210.55.169.0/24^24-29, 210.55.214.0/24^24-29, 210.55.230.0/24^24-29, 203.167.219.56/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)maxnet.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070410 source: NZRR

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More ‘public park’ broadband wireless spectrum released
by Dan Clark 05 Apr '07

05 Apr '07

source from RSM update... More 'public park' broadband wireless spectrum released Further radio spectrum for broadband wireless access has been made available with changes made to the Radiocommunications (General User Radio Licence for Short Range Devices) Notice. The government has opened the 5.47 – 5.725 GHz and 57 - 64 GHz radio frequency bands as 'public park' spectrum for broadband wireless services suitable for expanding wireless local area networks (Wi-Fi) and to extend the reach of existing fibre optic networks. Access to 'public park' spectrum does not attract a licence fee. Previously licensed users in the bands should be able to continue to operate without being unduly impacted. The General User Radio Licence contains conditions to ensure that broadband wireless equipment operating in the 5.47 – 5.725 GHz band does not cause interference to existing radar operations that share this band. Access to the 5.47 – 5.725 GHz band augments access to the 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz bands and more than doubles the spectrum that is now exclusively available for wireless local area networks. The General User Radio Licence also contains conditions to ensure that broadband wireless access equipment operating in the 57 – 64 GHz band minimises interference, and maximises reliability and utility within the band. Access to this spectrum may be used to provide short-range (~1 Km) high capacity (1 Gbit/sec) point-to-point links used to extend the reach of fibre-optic cabling, and/or to provide high speed short range backhaul for telecommunications network infrastructure.

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Re: [nznog] Telecom's "peering" change of heart really isn't
by Ian Batterbee 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

Somebody wrote: > >Oh, and on your point about universities, I think you will find that most > >(all?) of them already peer. UoA, which is far-and-away the largest university > >in the country, certainly peers at APE. > AUT doesn't peer with APE because it seems a little redundant as we have a connection through Orcon, who peer at APE We also connect to TCL and to KAREN.

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Re: [nznog] Telecom's "peering" change of heart really isn't
by Martin Kealey 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

> [...] there are no common and widely accepted > definitions of what peering and other related terms actually mean, > where 'widely' encompasses the whole of industry. We need to take off our techie hats and put on our lawyerie or accountant ones. How about this: Neutral Peering is peering at a Neutral Location. A Neutral Location is one where the entity providing the location does not provide connectivity to that location (or does so "at arms length" and competing equally with all other connectivity providers). A Neutral Location may be any physical size, provided that the location provider does not charge for traffic or bandwidth between participants within the location. In other words, Citylink metro qualifies as a location encompassing all of Wellington, because there is no charge within the "location". Telecom "peering" does not qualify beccause you can't backhaul your own cable and knock on their door saying "where do I plug in". Or if you could, you wouldn't get peering on an arms-length cost basis. -Martin

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Re: [nznog] Google Launches new in home fibre optic service
by Stewart Fleming 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz wrote: >Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:31:43 +1200 >From: Dean Pemberton <nznog(a)deanpemberton.com> > > > How many people read this, realised it was an april-fools day hoax, and > >still thought "Hmmmmmm Thats not a bad idea........ " > > >Dean > > "Four options were proposed to develop the network in three phases. The capital cost of the options ranged between approximately $700,000 and $7.6 million. The annual operating cost of the network is approximately $150,000. These different options and costs arise from the different methods costed out for laying the fibre network, *including the use of the DCC’s own wastewater ducting*. The study concludes that a combination of these methods may be the most cost-effective and efficient for different portions of each route." URBAN FIBRE NETWORK FEASIBILITY STUDY AND BROADBAND RECOMMENDATIONS Dunedin City Council, 24th January 2007 (emphasis added) -- -- Tel: 03 474 2100 Cell: 021 993 125 Web: www.wic.co.nz Co-location and Web hosting. Dunedin-wide wireless. Independent Internet Service Provider.

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Hungry backhoes in Porirua
by Jonathan Brewer 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

Hi Folks, One of the T's suffered fibre cut in Porirua this morning, causing some local tail circuts to disappear. Cheers, Jon

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Telecom's "peering" change of heart really isn't
by Matthew Poole 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/EA57668828E0FEEFCC2572AC0070D766 "While emphasing that it's still early days for the proposal and details need to be worked out, Marshall says providers would pay for circuits into Telecom's network, and the incumbent would reciprocate for connections towards providers." How is this an improvement on the current situation? They're not making use of existing peering infrastructure, they're just making other providers pay for a (Telecom-supplied) connection into Telecom's network, which is an option that's always been available to anyone willing to spend the money. Here's hoping that they get told that anything less than true neutral peering isn't good enough. -- Matthew Poole "Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: aut-num: AS23754 as-name: NZRR-AS23754 descr: CityLink descr: WIX peering at '202.7.0.32' descr: see Citylink RT job #7338 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS23754 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23754 import: from AS24385 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385 announce AS23754 import: from AS7657 accept {0.0.0.0/0} export: to AS7657 announce AS23754 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23754 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20061122 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: aut-num: AS23754 as-name: NZRR-AS23754 descr: CityLink descr: WIX peering at '202.7.0.32' descr: see Citylink RT job #7338 descr: WIX peering at '202.7.0.34' descr: see Citylink RT job #6072 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS23754 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23754 import: from AS24385 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385 announce AS23754 import: from AS7657 accept {0.0.0.0/0} export: to AS7657 announce AS23754 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23754 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23754 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070402 source: NZRR --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: advertised to AS9439 by CityLink - AS23754 members: 198.48.0.0/22^22-29, 202.8.44.0/22^22-29, 202.7.6.0/23^23-29, 97.64.46.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 202.7.5.0/24^24-29, 203.118.144.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20061214 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by Cafenet CHC - AS23754 members: 198.48.3.64/28^28-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: simon(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070402 source: NZRR

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Google Launches new in home fibre optic service
by Dan Clark 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

You guys aren't gonna believe this, actually to be honest I dont really believe it either... http://www.google.com/tisp/ Regards Dan

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Clarification on AUT's connection
by Ian Batterbee 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

Trust techo types to actually verify what I said... As a couple of people have now pointed out, AUT's prefix of 156.62.0.0/16 is not currently being advertised through Orcon (however you will find it through TCL and KAREN). This is a temporary situation and shouldn't be considered 'normal'. --- Ian Batterbee, CCNP Senior Network Technician Auckland University of Technology

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Re: [nznog] Telecom's "peering" change of heart really isn't
by Stewart Fleming 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

> > >Oh, and on your point about universities, I think you will find that most >(all?) of them already peer. UoA, which is far-and-away the largest university >in the country, certainly peers at APE. > Help me out here. What incentives can I (as operator of a local exchange) now offer to a University to convince it that peering locally is a Good Idea when they have KAREN? At various times, I've offered the University Of Eastern Venezuela (*) peering for a) $XXX/monthly (**), and b) the cost of a piece of patch cord, so far without takers. I think I might have to pay them before the chicken/egg dichotomy gets resolved ("We'll peer if everyone else does"; Everyone Else says "We'll peer if they do".)... (*) Name changed to protect the innocent. (**) Amount obscured, but the number of digits is right.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 29 Mar '07

29 Mar '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS24324 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Kordia (former BCL) - AS24324 members: 124.157.64.0/19^19-29, 202.68.80.0/20^20-29, 202.20.0.0/21^21-29, 202.49.16.0/21^21-29, 202.49.128.0/21^21-29, 218.185.224.0/21^21-29, 202.27.88.0/23^23-29, 192.173.17.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.90.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.137.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.158.0/24^24-29, 202.49.183.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: smc(a)kordia.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20061214 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS24324 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Kordia - AS24324 members: 124.157.64.0/19^19-29, 202.68.80.0/20^20-29, 202.20.0.0/21^21-29, 202.49.16.0/21^21-29, 202.49.128.0/21^21-29, 218.185.224.0/21^21-29, 202.27.88.0/23^23-29, 192.173.17.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.90.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.137.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.49.158.0/24^24-29, 202.49.183.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: smc(a)kordia.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070330 source: NZRR --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS7657 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Ihug Ltd - AS7657 members: 121.90.0.0/16^16-29, 124.168.0.0/16^16-29, 203.59.0.0/16^16-29, 203.173.128.0/17^17-29, 203.206.0.0/17^17-29, 203.214.0.0/17^17-29, 202.129.64.0/18^18-29, 210.84.0.0/18^18-29, 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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 29 Mar '07

29 Mar '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. 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5.8GHz in Dunedin
by Stewart Fleming 29 Mar '07

29 Mar '07

We're trying to track down a potential interference problem that is affecting one of our access points in North Dunedin. Could any local operator using Trango or Motorola 5.8GHz gear in that area please contact me off-list? Thanks. -- -- Tel: 03 474 2100 Cell: 021 993 125 Web: www.wic.co.nz Co-location and Web hosting. Dunedin-wide wireless. Independent Internet Service Provider.

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Re: [nznog] Telecom's "peering" change of heart really isn't
by Alastair Johnson 28 Mar '07

28 Mar '07

[once more for good luck - maybe THIS time I'll get it on list] Matthew Poole wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Alastair Johnson wrote: > >> Every ISP at Every IX? Does it end at ISPs? What about universities, >> for instance? What about satellite networks where the uplink isn't >> necessarily NZ based? >> > At their local (to their primary centre of operations) IX, obviously. > And I'm envisaging xx,000 being a sufficiently high number that only the > University of Auckland (with around 40,000 FTE students) would even come > close. Okay, but if you're only interconnecting/exchanging at your local IX then suddenly this is not as useful as it sounded. Telecom's primary center of operations is indisputably Auckland. Does that mean that, e.g. Trademe, cannot reach TNZ across an IX? Or do we come back to region-isation again? >> Are you going to pay for my long haul circuits to Palmy? >> > Is your primary centre of operations in Palmy? No? Why would you peer in > Palmy, then? Because you're regulating peering. If we must peer, then surely everyone needs to peer either everywhere (expensive), or at one IX (expensive for some). Otherwise you're significantly reducing the benefit of it before you even start. What happens if my POPs are islands and not connected to my backbone[s]? (think internap PNAPs) I'm only going to originate local prefixes anyway. What if I don't want to haul Content Provider C's traffic from Palmy to my subscribers in Auckland because it's 50+Mbps? Third option: regional based peering. My POP in PMR peers at the PNIX and only originates local prefixes. These all sound like significant business and technical issues that would need to be addressed by regulation. Unless your idea of regulation is to just focus on the big boys. Maybe that's fair, maybe that's not.... >> Doesn't sound like it would work so well, to me. If we said only the >> "major" IXs, what happens when the poor guy in Christchurch signs up his >> XX,000th customer and is forced to peer... but isn't getting access to >> the Big Boys? >> > Realistically, how many ISPs that are based outside AKL/WLG stand any > chance of getting 50+,000 users? Remembering that of the top five, > unless something has changed a lot in recent times, only Xtra and the > TCL stable are > 100k. If the government is serious about our OECD rankings, then I think many ISPs are going to hit >50k. If you believe press releases, Ihug, Orcon, and Callplus are all around (or over) the 100k mark. >> Regulated peering sounds very scary to me... >> > Only if one takes it to absurdity. If it's regulated in such a way that > only the very largest players could be affected, and the requirement on > which IX(s) is based around centre(s) of operations, it's easily > defined, easily enforced, and as I said won't really affect anyone other > than TCL and TCNZ. Which one may state is not particularly fair. Incidentally, what about Vodafone? I've noticed that traffic from a large number of smaller providers currently trombones via Tokyo and Sydney. > Oh, and on your point about universities, I think you will find that > most (all?) of them already peer. UoA, which is far-and-away the largest > university in the country, certainly peers at APE. I think you'll find that UoA in particular does not peer [any longer]. UoW also does not. aj.

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Re: [nznog] jumbo frames
by Jonathan Woolley 28 Mar '07

28 Mar '07

>Jumbo frames aside from the usefulness of bigger payload for >mpls/tunnels etc add some value in an environment where there's some >packet loss. I would have thought it makes it worse, assuming a physical fault resulting in a constant bit error rate combined with larger packet size means higher probability that a packet is corrupted (as there are more bits in it). The resulting packet is discarded which is a bigger loss than discarding a smaller one. >For example in an environment with say a 1Gbps link where packet loss >is .1% with 1500 byte MTU you get 28Mbps througput. With Jumboframes >that leaps to approx 162Mbps. Can I see the maths behind this? If you're talking about packet loss due to congestion and not using TCP then you're probably right

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Re: [nznog] Telecom's "peering" change of heart really isn't
by Matthew Poole 28 Mar '07

28 Mar '07

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Alastair Johnson wrote: > Every ISP at Every IX? Does it end at ISPs? What about universities, > for instance? What about satellite networks where the uplink isn't > necessarily NZ based? > At their local (to their primary centre of operations) IX, obviously. And I'm envisaging xx,000 being a sufficiently high number that only the University of Auckland (with around 40,000 FTE students) would even come close. > Are you going to pay for my long haul circuits to Palmy? > Is your primary centre of operations in Palmy? No? Why would you peer in Palmy, then? > Doesn't sound like it would work so well, to me. If we said only the > "major" IXs, what happens when the poor guy in Christchurch signs up his > XX,000th customer and is forced to peer... but isn't getting access to > the Big Boys? > Realistically, how many ISPs that are based outside AKL/WLG stand any chance of getting 50+,000 users? Remembering that of the top five, unless something has changed a lot in recent times, only Xtra and the TCL stable are > 100k. > Regulated peering sounds very scary to me... > Only if one takes it to absurdity. If it's regulated in such a way that only the very largest players could be affected, and the requirement on which IX(s) is based around centre(s) of operations, it's easily defined, easily enforced, and as I said won't really affect anyone other than TCL and TCNZ. Oh, and on your point about universities, I think you will find that most (all?) of them already peer. UoA, which is far-and-away the largest university in the country, certainly peers at APE. -- Matthew Poole "Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."

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jumbo frames
by Ian Batterbee 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

Has anyone got any real world experience of the usefulness of jumbo frames on ethernet (ie, MTU > 1500 bytes). A number of 1000mbps interfaces support it, but it seems to be that it would only be useful if jumbo frames were supported and enabled on all equipment between the sending NIC and final IP destination, so I'm struggling to see how enabling it in just say the core of a network would be all that helpful.

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John Backus passes away
by Richard Naylor 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

For those who are a little older.... John Backus, who lead the team that developed FORTRAN passed away last week. FORTRAN was originally developed for the IBM 704 and is regarded as one of the first high-level programming languages. He was involved in the development of ALGOL 58 and ALGOL 60. ALGOL was the first language that I learned, FORTRAN the second. Theres a good obit at NYTimes http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/obituaries/20cnd-backus.html?ex=133204320… Its worth reading. Slashdot also has heaps, including.... FORTRAN was the first working high level compiler language; BASIC was the first working interpreter language. Very different underlying structures. Now COBOL was the second major high level compiler language, and it was very much a reaction to FORTRAN, so I suppose using parent post's logic, we can blame Backus for COBOL. But then that cheapens the contributions of the Girl Admiral (Grace Hopper) who gave us such wonders as the nanosecond wire, and MULTIPLY 2 BY 2 GIVING FOUR. For the youngsters out there: FORTRAN (FORmula TRANslator) was the break-through from machine language and assembly to a higher level language with a compiler. Everything we do now is based on this; I believe that many mission critical engineering libraries are still in Fortran (they were a few years ago) COBOL (COmmon Business Oriented Language, Compiles Only By Odd Luck) was the second successful high level language. Its major improvement over Fortran was getting rid of triphasic logic (branch on <0, or =0, or >0) in favor of boolean logic (branch on !0 or 0). Its most noteworthy failing was the requirement to use the period punctuation mark (full stop) to end sections. This was particularly a problem for girl programmers, since at the time getting into trouble because you missed a period had serious consequences. Cobol simply put too much emphasis on a nearly invisible and easily missed period. BASIC (Beginners All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) made two big advances: first, it attempted to span both engineering and business computing (doing each with the same degree of imprecision); second and more important, it introduced the concept of using an interpreter rather than a compiler. Good stuff, that. Yet another baby step toward tomorrow's virtual machines. Most noteworthy program ever written in Basic: Eliza. Most significant long term contribution: the reaction to its spaghetti coding style, from which Pascal and modern procedure based programming arose. </drivel> Rich off for a scotch and to read a few punched cards......

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92/8, 93/8 allocated to the RIPE NCC
by Leo Vegoda 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

Hi, The IANA IPv4 registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of two /8 IPv4 blocks to the RIPE NCC in March 2007: 92/8 and 93/8. You can find the IANA IPv4 registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space Please update your filters as appropriate. Regards, -- Leo Vegoda IANA Numbers Liaison

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Re: [nznog] jumbo frames
by Jonathan Woolley 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

>>> Can I see the maths behind this? If you're talking about packet >loss >>> due to congestion and not using TCP then you're probably right >> >>I assume he's talking about my TFRC math from >>http://wand.net.nz/~perry/max_download.php >> >>Assuming you've saturated your link, a one bit in 'n' is going to >take >>out one packet every so often (if it takes out more than that you're >not >>going to get anything much worth discussing over your link in the >first >>place). So increasing the MTU isn't going to make it more likely >that a >>packet is lost, it just means you need to retransmit a larger >packet. >> >>However, since you're using larger MTU's, it's going to take you >less >>RTT's to get back up to full speed on your link, and therefore your >link >>will spend more of its time going at full rate than if you had a >lower >>MTU (since it would require more RTT's at lower throughput before it > >>starts saturating the link again). Ahh, ok. That's an interesting scenario. I'll have a look at the link Jono

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Re: [nznog] jumbo frames
by Jonathan Woolley 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

>>If you're fragmenting and drop one packet of a 4-packet-sequence you >waste >>the other 3 packets anyway as its gotta send the whole oversize >packet as >>multiple fragments all over again. My guess is that is his >reasoning - >>and seems fair... Sending a 9600byte packet in one frame, or fragmented into seven frames isn't really a meaningful test if you're trying to prove that jumbo frames are better when there is packet loss. In the real world, the non-jumbo frame setup would only send 1500 byte packets...

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Re: [nznog] jumbo frames
by Jonathan Woolley 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

So the most common real world example in NZ is UBS. Take the subscriber's 1500byte packet, add a PPP header, an extra IP and UDP header (for L2TP) and two MPLS headers (inside TNZ's netowrk) and jumbo frames look pretty useful. As alluded to below, 802.1q and especially stacking of vlans are strong reasons, even more so if transported over MPLS (Martini/VPLS). Jono > > > >---- Original Message ---- >From: nznog(a)daork.net >To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >Subject: Re: [nznog] jumbo frames >Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:04:56 +1200 > >>MPLS. >>VLANs. >>L2TP with 1500byte payloads. >> >>etc. >> >>On 28/03/2007, at 3:01 PM, Ian Batterbee wrote: >> >>> Has anyone got any real world experience of the usefulness of >jumbo >>> frames on ethernet (ie, MTU > 1500 bytes). A number of 1000mbps >>> interfaces support it, but it seems to be that it would only be >useful >>> if jumbo frames were supported and enabled on all equipment >between >>> the >>> sending NIC and final IP destination, so I'm struggling to see how >>> enabling it in just say the core of a network would be all that >>> helpful. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NZNOG mailing list >>> NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >>> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >>> >>> !DSPAM:22,4609daac107231355811551! >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>NZNOG mailing list >>NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >>http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070226 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070328 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 25 Mar '07

25 Mar '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS38292 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ZeroOne (NZ) Limited - AS38292 members: 202.174.6.0/23^23-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)zeroone.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070214 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS38292 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ZeroOne (NZ) Limited - AS38292 members: 202.174.6.0/23^23-29, 203.152.104.104/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)zeroone.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070326 source: NZRR

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Xtra accepting ping
by Michael Fincham 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Is it just me, or did some of Xtra's servers (specifically alien.xtra.co.nz/www.xtra.co.nz but probably more) suddenly stop replying to echo requests at some point this afternoon? Certainly had me stumped/panicking when my traceroute died at the penultimate hop... -- --Michael Fincham Unleash Technology Solutions

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The wacky, weird world of not peering
by Philip D'Ath 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/60FED800168312AECC2572A0001A299 7 ... Thankfully we have heard that Telecom is reconsidering its approach and we say it is about time. With continued data growth, IP-based voice and video becoming widespread, and an increasing number of networks being developed, it is critical that local data is kept local and the most efficient paths across the network are utilised. Telecom has recently been reported in the media as saying it is seriously looking at and now supports the concept of local internet interconnection. Rumours abound of a June/July timetable. Of course for their customers, and TelstraClear's, one would expect they never stopped local interconnection, but this move would re-integrate Telecom with the rest of the internet at a local level. ...

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS7657 descr: advertised to AS9560 by IHUG - AS7657 members: 124.168.0.0/16^16-29, 203.59.0.0/16^16-29, 203.109.128.0/17^17-29, 203.118.128.0/17^17-29, 203.173.128.0/17^17-29, 203.206.0.0/17^17-29, 203.214.0.0/17^17-29, 210.84.0.0/18^18-29, 202.161.0.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/19^19-29, 203.158.32.0/19^19-29, 203.166.224.0/19^19-29, 203.173.0.0/19^19-29, 203.206.128.0/19^19-29, 203.206.224.0/19^19-29, 203.214.128.0/19^19-29, 203.217.32.0/19^19-29, 203.217.64.0/19^19-29, 202.36.16.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.137.96.0/20^20-29, 203.173.32.0/20^20-29, 203.190.192.0/20^20-29, 202.49.64.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.129.80.0/21^21-29, 202.129.96.0/21^21-29, 203.173.48.0/21^21-29, 203.206.168.0/21^21-29, 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DNS TTLs: trademe and anz
by Simon Lyall 18 Mar '07

18 Mar '07

I'm doing a bit of DNS testing and I start noticing some weird results for a few domains. The two below appear to be specific problems since they are popular and I noticed them but I suspect there are others. The problem is that www.anz.co.nz and www.anz.com have TTLs of zero seconds. This means that *every* DNS look up for them takes either around 40 or 140ms (one server is closer/quicker than the other) since it is never cached. Similarly the TTL for www.trademe.co.nz (and www.oldfriends.co.nz) is just ten seconds so this must be constantly rechecked. Not as bad since their servers are in NZ but still there is a delay. Some companies (like google or yahoo) have very sophisticated systems that constantly check user performance and switch them from datacenter to datacenter in seconds if things start going slow. However unless your company has such a system (and very reliable and nearly DNS servers) then a TTL of a few minutes is good enough for manual updates to quickly propagate. Lower values than that will result in decreased performance for your customers. Even google and yahoo have TTLs of a minute or two. The scary thing is that both sites probably put a lot of time into making the actual pages load as fast as possible. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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Call for Hosts: NZNOG 08
by Daniel Lawson 14 Mar '07

14 Mar '07

Call for Hosts: NZNOG 08 We are looking for potential hosts for NZNOG 06 in around a year's time. I would like to hear off-list from people who a) have been to at least one NZNOG conference in the past, and b) might be interested in hosting next year's conference. This is not about committing anybody to anything at this stage. It is a good time to start thinking about whether this is a way in which you could contribute to the community, whether as a single hosting organisation or in cooperation with others. I look forward to hearing from you before the 25th of March. Regards, Daniel Lawson NZNOG 08 Conference Organising Committee.

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Re: [nznog] DNS TTLs: trademe and anz
by Ewen McNeill 12 Mar '07

12 Mar '07

In message <45F5DAA1.9070701(a)deanpemberton.com>, Dean Pemberton writes: >I can remember a time when a similar question was raised about zero time >TTLs on records. [...] It was with a bank. [...] >"We want to make sure that each and every request for an IP address >comes to our DNS server. We don't want it to be cached at all as this >can lead to someone hijacking the cache. We like it this way" So if someone _does_ manage to find a way to poison the cache with a record, then they can happily set a long TTL on the poison record and avoid any other lookups. And there's an almost zero chance that there'll be valid cached record there to prevent the poisoned one being cached. Seems to me some people don't think through the logical consequences of their actions. It also seems to me that anyone needing failover in less than about an hour wants a different solution than updating DNS entries (load balancer, anycast, etc). Ewen

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Re: [nznog] ISP's Natting customer pools
by Martin Kealey 11 Mar '07

11 Mar '07

On 20-Feb-2007 Joe Abley wrote: > On 20-Feb-2007, at 17:16, Martin Kealey wrote: > > Question: are there any (DSL?) CPE units for sale or in development > > that will do v6 to v4 translation, plus v6 pass-thru? > > In practical terms (and I'm being only slightly pedantic) there *is* > no v6 to v4 translation. There are tunnels, and there is native IPv6. Are you saying that when a v6 host says "Connect to ::ffff:cfdb:2d24", the answer will invariably be "can't"? Otherwise we're talking about a third option that smells rather like SNAT, but running on steroids. Hence my using the term "translation". It makes sense for this "natting" to occur as far as possible from the v6 source host and as near as possible to the target v4 host, but in any case it can only go as far away as your v6 transit allows. Since we're only starting the game, that means the CPE border kit. Although I asked about doing both "translation and pass-thru", if the ISP at the other end is sensible it should only need to do one of those at a time. -Martin reference: http://xml.resource.org/public/rfc/html/rfc2373.html#anchor11

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Domestic looking glass or traceroute
by Gerard Creamer 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

Hi, I'm looking for a New Zealand based looking glass that's on the Internet - so not the WIX or APE ones. The only one I've been able to find that goes is the ICONZ one at NZIX (http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/mrlg-others.cgi) although did also find Simon Lyall's one, which is currently offline, at http://www.usenet.net.nz/lg.cgi (AS7657). I have found a single working traceroute at http://www.kcbbs.gen.nz/cgi-bin/trace (AS9303). There are two others listed at traceroute.org, but neither is working. Is it just there there aren't many of these about, or are they just a well guarded secret? I found a few posts on the topic to this list in July last year (http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2006-July/011929.html) but it didn't seem to go anywhere. If anyone knows of any others based in New Zealand (there are zillions elsewhere on the internet) I would greatly appreciate knowing where! Specifically I'm looking for traces from Orcon and Telecom / Xtra to 210.4.208.1, but the more data I can get to see why it seems that more traffic is coming in through our expensive upstream than we thought would the better :^) Cheers, Gerard

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bind IPv6 configurator
by Matthew Poole 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Does anyone know if there are any websites that will create a bind reverse zone file for a given IPv6 range? I can cope with creating the forward entries, but trying to work out the correct zone naming (not to mention the actual resource entries) for the reverse is more than my paw widdle bwain can cope with at present. -- Matthew Poole "Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."

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JABL announcement: dynablock & Spamhaus PBL
by Craig Whitmore 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

This came from the SPAM-L mailing list. If ppl are using RBL's on their mail servers they might want to read below. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following text was sent to list(a)njabl.org on Jan 19, 2007. Judging from the number of DNS queries still being handled for dynablock.njabl.org, the message doesn't seem to have made it to a wide enough audience. If you use or know people who use dynablock.njabl.org, this is important information: With the advent of Spamhaus's PBL (http://spamhaus.org/pbl/) dynablock.njabl.org has become obsolete. Rather than maintain separate similar DNSBL zones, NJABL will be working with Spamhaus on the PBL. Effective immediately, dynablock.njabl.org exists as a copy of the Spamhaus PBL. After dynablock users have had ample time to update their configurations, the dynablock.njabl.org zone will be emptied. Other NJABL zones (i.e. dnsbl, combined, bhnc, and the qw versions) will continue, business as usual, except that combined will eventually lose its dynablock component. If you currently use dynablock.njabl.org we recommend you switch immediately to pbl.spamhaus.org. If you currently use combined.njabl.org, we recommend you add pbl.spamhaus.org to the list of DNSBLs you use. You may also want to consider using zen.spamhaus.org, which is a combination zone consisting of Spamhaus's SBL, XBL, and PBL zones. ---------------- Thanks Craig

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Re: [nznog] RFC822 (Identification of sender in email)
by Stoo Brighting 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

Hey, if you're going to quote me, at least quote me correctly. I didn't say it was unmonitored, we do monitor all bounces we get in order to process the NDR's (thousands each day) Like I said on the phone, our emails have completely valid envelope fields, and we update our database to "clean" out the bad email addresses that people often like to sign up with. This doesn't break any RFC that I know of. We'd just prefer that you don't reply to our CRM messages via SMTP, that's all - hence the "please do not reply to this" at the bottom of all our outbound emails, and the auto-responder if you do happen to send mail to these addresses. If this breaks an RFC, point me at the appropriate place, and I'll change things to fit them. As for being cocky, I can handle that, I've been called worse. Cheers, Stoo Misc small online company. -----Original Message----- From: John @ netTRUST [mailto:john(a)nettrust.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2007 2:39 p.m. To: Craig Whitmore; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] RFC822 (Identification of sender in email) I've just had a call from a rather cocky person at the company. They claim it is allright and common. I disagree, with the exception that it is common among spammers*. Hence why I'm asking other NZNOG members. Reply emails go to an auto responder which the company person says is unmonitored. This issue was bought to my attention when I wrote an email to this company, though as we handle (I estimate) several thousand emails per day from this company, I ahve decided to investigate the matter further. *I am in no way suggesting said company is a spammer, but we're under constant pressure from customers to increase the level of 'protection' and looking at their emails, they could quite possibly score a few bayes points. > > In investigating an issue involving a large online NZ company's outbound > > email - I read RFC822 which I have quoted below. > > > > I note that this company is currently making use of apparently > > unmonitored return addresses which generate an auto reply. > > Are you saying they are sending (MFROM) Addresses which don't exist (ie > cannot be bounced back to etc). Or MFROM a valid email address which no one > reads (ie noreply(a)XXXXX) > > Thanks > Craig _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Re: [nznog] RFC822 (Identification of sender in email)
by John ＠ netTRUST 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

I've just had a call from a rather cocky person at the company. They claim it is allright and common. I disagree, with the exception that it is common among spammers*. Hence why I'm asking other NZNOG members. Reply emails go to an auto responder which the company person says is unmonitored. This issue was bought to my attention when I wrote an email to this company, though as we handle (I estimate) several thousand emails per day from this company, I ahve decided to investigate the matter further. *I am in no way suggesting said company is a spammer, but we're under constant pressure from customers to increase the level of 'protection' and looking at their emails, they could quite possibly score a few bayes points. > > In investigating an issue involving a large online NZ company's outbound > > email - I read RFC822 which I have quoted below. > > > > I note that this company is currently making use of apparently > > unmonitored return addresses which generate an auto reply. > > Are you saying they are sending (MFROM) Addresses which don't exist (ie > cannot be bounced back to etc). Or MFROM a valid email address which no one > reads (ie noreply(a)XXXXX) > > Thanks > Craig

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RFC822 (Identification of sender in email)
by John ＠ netTRUST 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

Hello all- In investigating an issue involving a large online NZ company's outbound email - I read RFC822 which I have quoted below. I note that this company is currently making use of apparently unmonitored return addresses which generate an auto reply. Given that my reading of RFC822 would suggest this is contrary to this (and other relevant sections), and the obvious issues that this can cause for spam filtering mechanisms like TMDA, I would like to know whether others find this practice inappropriate, and if so, what action (if any) do they take against the perpetrators? Standard for ARPA Internet Text Messages Since the critical function served by the "Sender" field is identification of the agent responsible for sending mail and since computer programs cannot be held accountable for their behavior, it is strongly recommended that when a computer pro- gram generates a message, the HUMAN who is responsible for that program be referenced as part of the "Sender" field mail- box specification.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS64597 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Araneo Limited - AS64597 members: 210.48.101.64/27^27-29, 210.48.109.224/27^27-29, 210.48.101.112/28^28-29, 210.48.101.240/28^28-29, 202.53.189.128/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: info(a)araneo.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060612 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS64597 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Araneo Limited - AS64597 members: 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 210.48.101.64/27^27-29, 210.48.109.224/27^27-29, 210.48.101.112/28^28-29, 210.48.101.240/28^28-29, 202.53.189.128/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)araneo.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070306 source: NZRR

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APNIC membership fee discussion
by Elly Tawhai 27 Feb '07

27 Feb '07

Hi, I had some lively discussions about the APNIC membership fees with some of the attendees at the last NZnog in Hamilton. If you are an APNIC member, you may be interested in the APNIC fee discussions taking place at the APNIC 23 meeting in Bali this week. I encourage you all to have your say during the fee discussion working group sessions on Thursday and in the APNIC Member Meeting on Friday. Fee discussion sessions at APNIC 23: APNIC fees discussion Thursday 1 March 2007 9:00 - 12:30 (Bali time) http://www.apnic.net/meetings/23/programme/fees.html Fee discussions at the APNIC member meeting Friday 2 March 2007 14:15 - 15:30 (Bali time) http://www.apnic.net/meetings/23/programme/amm.html You can follow and participate in the fee discussions online via: - Jabber chat rooms - Live transcripts - Streaming video - Streaming audio Archives of the audio, video and transcripts will also be available soon after the fee discussion sessions have ended. For more information on how to participate online, go to: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/remote Kind regards, Elly APNIC

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Remote participation in APNIC 23
by Elly Tawhai 26 Feb '07

26 Feb '07

Hi, You may be aware that APNIC 23 has started. You can participate remotely in discussions, ask the presenter questions, and voice your opinion. For more information on webcast, podcast, Jabber chat, and live transcript services please see: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/remote Some of the exciting topics being covered include: * Working group session to discuss a new membership fee structure * IPv4 count down proposal in the policy SIG * The EC election * Announcement of APNIC member survey results, and a review of the APNIC Secretariat new organisational structure * Review of the APNIC voting system For more information about the agenda please see: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/23/programme Kind regards, Elly APNIC

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 25 Feb '07

25 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070212 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070226 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 25 Feb '07

25 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070212 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070226 source: NZRR

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Fwd: Online voting open for APNIC Executive Council election
by Elly Tawhai 22 Feb '07

22 Feb '07

Apologies if you have already received this. Begin forwarded message: > From: secretariat(a)apnic.net > Date: 20 February 2007 6:01:47 PM > Subject: Online voting open for APNIC Executive Council election > > Dear colleagues > > Online voting for the APNIC Executive Council election is now open. > > where: https://my.apnic.net/voting > deadline: 9:00am UTC+8 (Bali time) on Wednesday 28 February 2007 > who: Only registered voting contacts may vote online > > Profiles of the candidates nominated for this election, along with > details for other voting methods are at: > > http://www.apnic.net/meetings/23/ec > > If you have any questions, please contact APNIC Secretariat at > helpdesk(a)apnic.net. > > > Regards, > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > APNIC Secretariat email: secretariat(a)apnic.net > http://www.apnic.net sip: info(a)voip.apnic.net > phone: +61 7 3858 3100 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > See you at APNIC 23! Bali, Indonesia, 26 February-2 March 2007 > http://www.apnic.net/meetings > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.44.0/23^23-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.50.246.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.173.24.0/24^24-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.211.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: deon(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070221 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.44.0/23^23-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.50.246.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.173.24.0/24^24-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.37.57.0/24^24-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.211.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: deon(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070221 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9560 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.44.0/23^23-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.50.246.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.173.24.0/24^24-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.37.57.0/24^24-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.211.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: deon(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20061019 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9560 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.44.0/23^23-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.50.246.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.173.24.0/24^24-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.37.57.0/24^24-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.211.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: deon(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070221 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.44.0/23^23-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.50.246.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.173.24.0/24^24-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.37.57.0/24^24-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.211.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: deon(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20061019 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 202.50.208.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.50.200.0/21^21-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.50.52.0/22^22-29, 202.50.196.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.44.0/23^23-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.37.86.0/23^23-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.49.80.0/23^23-29, 202.50.246.0/23^23-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.173.24.0/24^24-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.36.226.0/24^24-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 203.97.5.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.211.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: deon(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070221 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: aut-num: AS38329 as-name: NZRR-AS38329 descr: Wellington City Council descr: WIX peering at '202.7.0.71' descr: see Citylink RT job #8509 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS38329 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: Robert.Flynn(a)wcc.govt.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070221 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS38329 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by Wellington City Council - AS38329 members: 192.88.190.0/24^24-29, 192.190.108.0/24^24-29, 203.97.237.120/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: Robert.Flynn(a)wcc.govt.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070221 source: NZRR

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Re: [nznog] ISP's Natting customer pools
by Martin Kealey 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

> Given the relative sizes of ISPs, it's probably also true to say "most DSL netizens use xtra". Them's fighting words... or they would be if I was in the marketing dept. Question: are there any (DSL?) CPE units for sale or in development that will do v6 to v4 translation, plus v6 pass-thru? -Martin -- Martin D Kealey, ihüg engineering

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Re: [nznog] ISP's Natting customer pools
by Perry Lorier 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

(Reposted to the list *with* Simons permission): Simon Lyall wrote: >> If you looked at the "top ports" you'll see 135, 139, 445 make an >> appearance which are used by various windows worms, so obvious some >> users are infected with virii. However this isn't going to push peoples >> port counts up to the 1,000's like p2p will. > > Have you got numbers for each port as well as the combos? Something like: > > Port 25 - 70% > Port 80 - 75% > Port 443 - 56% > /--- Percentage of IP's that sent a packet on this port | /------ Port number v v 98.11 80/tcp 98.09 53/udp 95.64 443/tcp 73.63 110/tcp 60.43 25/tcp 41.83 123/udp 36.18 22/tcp <-- ! 33.89 7001/udp 33.62 1433/tcp 33.22 5900/tcp 32.81 6000/tcp 31.07 139/tcp 30.86 445/tcp 30.60 135/tcp 26.40 21/tcp 25.73 2967/tcp 25.42 8080/tcp 23.79 42/tcp 21.62 10000/tcp 20.84 9/udp <-- wtf? 19.62 6346/tcp 19.49 1863/tcp 17.31 1080/tcp 16.98 6346/udp 15.49 3389/tcp 15.14 10827/tcp 14.83 10929/tcp 13.94 26200/tcp 13.22 6348/udp 12.92 6348/tcp 12.48 15118/tcp 11.99 20000/tcp 11.41 12350/udp 11.32 8000/udp 11.21 6881/tcp 11.02 80/udp 10.84 5800/tcp 10.84 5000/tcp 10.62 7001/tcp

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Re: [nznog] [Fwd: [pacnog] IPv4 exhaustion discussionsin Asia Pacific region]
by Jonathan Woolley 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

> Indeed one might speculate that the vast bulk of users in a very large > country using a complex language of their own might not miss the > english speaking world to any great extent. For those who found it a > problem (international traders) legitimate v4 addresses could be > allocated. I can see the headlines now: "[Vendor] charges [country] $[lots] to enable NAT on the great firewall. They decide to go with iptables instead" =)

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[Fwd: Re: ISP's Natting customer pools]
by Gerard Creamer 20 Feb '07

20 Feb '07

Fascinating stuff - thanks for posting it. I find it most interesting that over 60% of DSL users systems know about and use more than 20 protocols. What is the sample size? Just approximate - 100s, 1000s, 10s of 000s ? I can understand if you didn't want to say, but it would help with rough deviation / error % Thanks, Gerard Perry Lorier wrote: > Well, I ran an analysis of DSL customers[1] over the space of 24 hours > [4] to see how many different protocols people were using. For each IP > I kept track of the number of unique "server ports"[2] were used.[3] >

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Prime Minister heart attack trojan spam run
by matthew＠auscert.org.au 18 Feb '07

18 Feb '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 G'day all Have just released an alert on a(nother) trojan spam run at: AL-2007.0026 -- [Win] -- "Prime Minister heart attack" trojan http://www.auscert.org.au/7314 Basically there being emails currently in circulation with a variety of subject lines, including: "Current Australia's Prime Minister survived a hear attack" "The life of the Prime Minister is in grave danger" "Prime Minister survived a heard attack" with a link to malicious websites, including: h**p://www,austr-news,com/ h**p://www,theaunews,com/ h**p://www,theau-news,org/ Anyone seeing a lot of this? Perhaps targeting other heads of state? Might be worth keeping an eye out as we've seen similar to this before: AL-2006.0069 -- [Win] -- "John Howard tragedy" email attachment installs Torpig credential stealing trojan http://www.auscert.org.au/6645 with similar 'hooks' in that one appearing to be targeting Italy and the UK at least with messages of their government leaders' reported assassination. Feedback appreciated. Best regards, - -- Matthew McGlashan -- Coordination Centre Team Leader | Hotline: +61 7 3365 4417 Australian Computer Emergency Response Team | Direct: +61 7 3365 7924 (AusCERT) | Fax: +61 7 3365 7031 The University of Queensland | WWW: www.auscert.org.au Qld 4072 Australia | Email: auscert(a)auscert.org.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.auscert.org.au/render.html?it=1967 Comment: http://www.auscert.org.au/render.html?it=1967 iQCVAwUBRdlMDyh9+71yA2DNAQKhGwQAmY99YaXxm48qj5LqxSSYYeMlTTSjWIvm F1S/Qop5km5/e2ZrDNJHbojfVNpLg9YrXGG8AxtY5nTcD852ojBuTf9tBmHUwqwF ljnyc4L6zxZ4iFzFWEZhypXBcnN6AZEYU8++vnnqePCK6KPfZsNJkhgodq2L53n9 GimZG4XHaso= =/dMS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Fwd: [pacnog] IPv4 exhaustion discussions in Asia Pacific region]
by Andy Linton 18 Feb '07

18 Feb '07

Given our discussions on IPv4 and IPv6 at the recent nznog meeting some of you may be interested in this. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [pacnog] IPv4 exhaustion discussions in Asia Pacific region Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:44:32 +1000 (EST) From: Elly Tawhai <elly(a)apnic.net> To: pacnog(a)pacnog.org Hi You are probably aware by now that the exhaustion of IPv4 address space is likely to occur in the next few years. You might be interested to know that a proposal to deal with IPv4 exhaustion has been put forward for discussion in the APNIC region. The proposal suggests five main principles: (1) Global synchronization: All five RIRs will proceed at the same time for measures on IPv4 address exhaustion. (2) Some Blocks to be left: Keep a few /8 stocks instead of distributing all. (3) Keeping current practices until the last moment: Maintain the current policy until the last allocation. (4) Separate discussions on "recycle" issue: Recovery of unused address space should be discussed separately For more information on the proposal, see: http://www.apnic.net/docs/policy/proposals/prop-046-v001.html This proposal affects the whole Internet community. I encourage you to read the proposal and have your say on the APNIC Policy SIG mailing list, or at the upcoming APNIC 23 meeting in Bali, Indonesia, 26 February - 2 March 2007. If you can't attend the meeting in person, you can still have your say by participating remotely via live chat. APNIC Policy SIG mailing list information: http://www.apnic.net/community/lists APNIC 23: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/23/ Kind regards, Elly APNIC

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[Fwd: [pacnog] IPv4 exhaustion discussionsin Asia Pacific region]
by Patrick Jordan-Smith 18 Feb '07

18 Feb '07

> Which is a problem if we are reliant on the telco's to move to IPv6. > Why would any sane [NZ] telco spend serious money changing to a > technology which further relegates them to a common bit pusher? > There is an argument here that IPv4 exhaustion provides a technical > rational for telcos to provide walled garden, proxy-style services. I fully support this style of thinking. Infact, if I was an ISP I would be seriously considering NATing my entire customer base - except for those who were willing to pay $x/mo for a real IP. At the end of the day, with a few exceptions, most protocols work quite well from behind a nat. And it gives me another revenue stream, which if I am an ISP would be quite useful considering I am probably losing money on the DSL I am currently providing. Cheers, Patrick -- patpatnz(a)gmail.com

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APNIC fee structure - Online voting period extended
by Elly Tawhai 18 Feb '07

18 Feb '07

Dear Colleagues Voting on the APNIC fee schedule questions has now been extended by one week. The APNIC Executive Council decided to extend the online vote due to the low number of responses so far. This is an important issue for all APNIC members, so we encourage you to have your opinions counted. The new deadline for votes is 14:00 UTC, Friday 23 February, 2007. To vote, or get more information about the process, please go to: https://my.apnic.net/voting Please note that only registered voting contacts are able to cast votes. If you have any questions about using MyAPNIC, please contact helpdesk(a)apnic.net. Kind regards, Elly ________________________________________________________________________ Elly Tawhai email: elly(a)apnic.net Internet Resource Analyst, APNIC sip: elly(a)voip.apnic.net http://www.apnic.net/helpdesk phone: +61 7 3858 3188 fax: +61 7 3858 3199 ________________________________________________________________________ See you at APNIC 23! Bali, 26 February - 2 March, 2007 http://www.apnic.net/meetings

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Re: [nznog] [Fwd: [pacnog] IPv4 exhaustion discussionsin Asia Pacific region]
by Ewen McNeill 17 Feb '07

17 Feb '07

In message <2B310DEB-219F-4F70-9779-F27EDDEE60AA(a)ca.afilias.info>, Joe Abley writes: >On 16-Feb-2007, at 17:00, Nathan Ward wrote: >> End-to-end IP connectivity is so passe. > >But it's arguably what allowed the Internet to grow and flourish. If >the network controls the applications that users can deploy, then >[provider catchup or user disappointment or] >people will stop dreaming up new applications for users to run, and >will instead concentrate on packages they can sell to carriers and ISPs. Or, perhaps worse, all new applications will have an extra layer to "route around" this problem. The rise of application data over XML over HTTP (over SSL) over TCP over IP hints at what this world might be like. That's not exactly progress. The security folks aren't exactly keen on this either (even without the SSL, it's very hard to "pinhole" inspect what is going on in the midst of large XML payloads, and you don't get much of a service type indicator if it's all XML over HTTP). The "big win" of Skype, and Kazaa before it, is its ability to "route around" the NAT everywhere, firewall everywhere, world and overlay what is basically an end-to-end network again (at least bits of it created on demand). That's not exactly progress either. Some other possibilities have been suggested, such as smarter intermediate boxes (firewalls, NAT), with which one negotiates (as in a protocol to request) a path through to the end box. This is already starting to happen with, eg, STUN, but potentially could be formalised as part of connection setup, and done automatically rather than requiring per-application custom setup. One is left wondering if instead of inventing random ad-hoc "tunnel through intermediate boxes" protocols it may be that things converge on, eg, 6-over-4. At least, eg, application over TCP over IPv6 over IPv4 is still pretty transparent, and doesn't have _that_ much overheard (compared with, eg, XML over HTTP). And there's some eventual migration path which involves reducing layers (eventually when everything is 6-over-4 it makes sense to just get rid of the IPv4 bit). Ewen

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Apropos addressing
by Juha Saarinen 17 Feb '07

17 Feb '07

Geoff Huston has something to say on that: http://www.circleid.com/posts/addressing_the_future_internet/ (Shamelessly nicked from Bill St Arnaud's CAnet news: http://www.canarie.ca/canet4/library/list.html) -- Juha Saarinen www.geekzone.co.nz/juha | Skype: juha_saarinen blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/techsploder www.computerworld.co.nz | MSN: juha_saarinen(a)msn.com Voice: +64 9 950 3023 Subtle recursive jokes in .sigs are not funny.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS38292 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by Zero One - AS38292 members: 210.48.94.0/24^24-29, 210.48.103.192/26^26-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: nick(a)01.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070212 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS38292 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ZeroOne (NZ) Limited - AS38292 members: 202.174.6.0/23^23-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)zeroone.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070214 source: NZRR

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NZNOG 2007: Sysadmin Miniconf: Slides available
by Ewen McNeill 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

For those that attended the Sysadmin Miniconf at NZNOG 2007 (or wished to but had conflicts), the slide sets from most of the talks at the miniconf are now online: http://nznog.miniconf.org/ Thank you to everyone who participated in the miniconf and helped make it a success, and especially to those who spoke at the miniconf. If anyone has anything else that they want linked to the Sysadmin Miniconf page please email it to <talks(a)nznog.miniconf.org>. Ewen

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20061214 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070212 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20061218 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.174.160.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 123.108.144.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.59.4.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.208.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.183.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070212 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Feb '07

11 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: aut-num: AS38292 as-name: NZRR-AS38292 descr: Zero One descr: WIX peering at '202.7.1.17' descr: see Citylink RT job #245 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS38292 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: nick(a)01.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070212 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS38292 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by Zero One - AS38292 members: 210.48.94.0/24^24-29, 210.48.103.192/26^26-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: nick(a)01.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070212 source: NZRR

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Off Topic - Woosh VoIP engineer please contact me off list..
by Chris Hodgetts 09 Feb '07

09 Feb '07

I had VoIP issues with Woosh awhile ago, and was advised by a tech there that they would start to support RFC2833 as opposed to INBAND DTMF on their VoIP system (when he spoke to me he advised in about 3 weeks, but this was well before Christmas) This is yet to happen, and I am still having issues calling a few IVR systems and would like to get it resolved if I can - or at least know of a date this might take place. Cheers, and apologies for taking this off topic, and because I don't drink I cant bring it back on topic..... but I am sure someone can drink enough for me. Cheers thanks again.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: aut-num: AS17663 as-name: NZRR-AS17663 descr: Housing New Zealand Corporation descr: WIX peering at '202.7.0.149' descr: see Citylink RT job #8222 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS17663 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: ns(a)hnzc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070208 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS17663 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by Housing New Zealand Corporation - AS17663 members: 192.173.17.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: ns(a)hnzc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070208 source: NZRR

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A new policy proposal "IPv4 countdown policy proposal" - APNIC 23
by Miwa Fujii 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

Hi All, Thanks for the NZNOG 2007 committee's efforts to make successful NZNOG 2007. Thanks also for NZNOG community pple's warm hospitality to us. I very much enjoyed technical presentations, the panel discussion and both formal/informal social events. As we discussed in the panel discussion "Where to spend the money, IPv6, or somewhere else?", there were quite a few dimensions to discuss this topic. As NZNOG is a technical community, naturally, the discussion was drawn into technical details of IPv6. However, we briefly discussed about the relationship between IPv4 address exhaustion and IPv6. There is a policy proposal for the upcoming APNIC 23 in Bali, titled "IPv4 countdown policy proposal" http://www.apnic.net/docs/policy/proposals/prop-046-v001.html I think having a wider community's input to this proposal would be good. If you have any comment, please feel free to post it to the APNIC sig-policy mailing list. You can subscribe the mailing list from: http://www.apnic.net/community/lists/index.html Looking forward to hearing your view. miwa

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Thursday night curry in Hamilton?
by Ian McDonald 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

Jayne and I have thought about this and decided that it's really time Hamilton got their act together on this one. Various people/groups have talked about this but no-one has done this yet (that I'm aware of) and we'd like to see this kick off. Since many of you from Hamilton probably met each other at NZNOG (shame I couldn't make it) I thought it'd be a good time to mention it while you still remember each other. If you're interested please email me off list. Also can whoever looks after the domain/server (Jamie Baddeley?) contact me to see how we can put Hamilton on. NB I'm not going to make token reference to beer as think networking (in the social sense) is quite a relevant topic. And more than token amount of beer might get consumed anyway! Ian -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz WAND Network Research Group

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NZNOG Photos (Group and others)
by Lin Nah 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

HI all Group photo for NZNOG 2007 http://coders.meta.net.nz/~perry/inet/nznog-07/index.php?photo=4 If you are in this photo and have NOT been named, please click on your mouse button when a ? appears on your face. We have tried to identify as many as possible. People are not indentified due to many reasons. Please don't take it personally. Btw if you want to look at the nznog photo of other years I've added a link in the group photo secion at wiki.nznog.org or NZNOG 2006 http://coders.meta.net.nz/~perry/inet/nznog-06/index.php?photo=3 NZNOG 2005 http://coders.meta.net.nz/~perry/inet/nznog-05/index.php?photo=1 nznog 2004 http://coders.meta.net.nz/~perry/inet/nznog-05/index.php?photo=2 If you took photos, please add a link to this page http://wiki.nznog.org/index.cgi/Pictures Also if you blogged about it, add a link to http://wiki.nznog.org/index.cgi/Blogs regards lin

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elevated icmp last couple of days?
by Anton Smith 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

Hi all, Just wondering if anyone else has noticed elevated ICMP levels. I'm seeing a lot of what looks like ICMP from infected machines, both coming into our network and leaving it. Always with the same sequence number and going to and from many different machines: e.g. 13:41:45.682360 IP 196.211.95.177 > 202.65.160.195: icmp 72: echo request seq 20041 13:41:45.682395 IP 196.211.95.177 > 202.65.160.195: icmp 72: echo request seq 20041 13:41:45.684098 IP 196.211.95.177 > 202.65.160.195: icmp 72: echo request seq 20041 13:41:45.684185 IP 196.211.95.177 > 202.65.160.195: icmp 72: echo request seq 20041 and 13:45:23.759952 IP 203.110.28.211 > 24.149.23.167: icmp 41: echo request seq 39506 13:45:23.764000 IP 203.110.28.211 > 24.149.63.81: icmp 41: echo request seq 39762 13:45:23.764046 IP 203.110.28.211 > 24.149.20.160: icmp 41: echo request seq 40018 13:45:23.764426 IP 203.110.28.211 > 24.149.134.141: icmp 41: echo request seq 40274 13:45:23.766189 IP 203.110.28.211 > 24.149.81.135: icmp 41: echo request seq 40530 Seems to be the same sequence number for the same destination host. There are hundreds/thousands of these every second and seems to be ongoing. Just wondering if it is just us. Regards, Anton

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Could the mail admin for blakjak.net contact me off list?
by Juha Saarinen 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<@nzoss.org.nz>: host mx.blakjak.net [202.50.176.75]: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [NZ IP address] blocked using rbl.blakjak.net; Mail from China and Korea is not welcome here due to high SPAM volumes. Visit rbl.blakjak.net for information. It seems the Blakjak RBL needs tweaking if the NZOSS is to accept email from certain parts of the NZ Intarweb. Thanks. -- Juha Saarinen www.geekzone.co.nz/juha | Skype: juha_saarinen blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/techsploder www.computerworld.co.nz | MSN: juha_saarinen(a)msn.com Voice: +64 9 950 3023 Subtle recursive jokes in .sigs are not funny.

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Jersey found at NZNOG
by Simon Lyall 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

Found in Miro hall on Saturday morning. A black zip up Jersey, size "M" left in the common room. Contact me directly to arrange return. -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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NZNOG '07 Accommodation
by Jonny Martin 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

Hi All. We've ended up with a couple of spare rooms for NZNOG '07 accommodation (Tue - Fri nights). So if you'd been hoping to secure some accommodation but didn't get it sorted before the deadline, here is your chance! Send your details through to dave(a)staff.inspire.net.nz if you wish to take advantage of this. See you in Palmerston North, Jonny.

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Incorrect / missing WHOIS details
by John ＠ netTRUST 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Do any members present have any feelings about domain names that have misleading or ommited core/required contact details? I refer to cults.co.nz - a controversial religious themed website - though the issue at hand here is their whois, not their content. This may be a breach of rule 7.1 of the DNC's publication "Registering, Managing and Cancelling domain names" which reads- 7.1 When registering a new domain name the registrar will supply the following data: * Domain name. * Name server list. * Registrant contact details. * Administrative contact details. * Technical contact details. * Billing term. Also the registrar involved may be in breach of section 8.1 which reads- 8.1 Registrars will be required to maintain the details of the domain names for which they are the registrar. They will be able to amend/update the following fields: 􀂃 Name Server List. 􀂃 Registrant Name. 􀂃 Registrant Contact Details. 􀂃 Registrant Customer ID. 􀂃 Administrative Contact Details. 􀂃 Technical Contact Details. 􀂃 Billing Term. While the specifics as to whether this is a technical breach or not should be determined by the DNC and what I have stated above is only an opinion,. this is still a practice I feel should not be permitted to take hold in New Zealand. The publication mentioned is located at: http://www.dnc.org.nz/content//registering_managing_cancelling.pdf

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NZNOG 2007 on 31 January - 2 February 2007
by Lin Nah 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hi Reminder: The nznog meet this year is at Massey University Campus, Palmerston North starting on 31 January to 2 February 2007. InspireNet is hosting this year. To those of you already going, check out wiki.nznog.org I know there's a whole lot more ppl who are attending but not found the wiki yet. Don't worry about reading the rest of this email. To those not attending: I urge you to consider coming to the conference. It isn't too late to register for it. I hope no one was put off by the "deadlines" mentioned in earlier posts. Registrations are still being accepted. If you don't know much about it check out www.nznog.org The programme will include: * AS-Path analysis: Testing claims of "tier-1" status and examining BGP routing anomalies by Gaurab Upadhaya, Packet Clearing House (PCH) * Connecting the dots: Graph theory, Telecom Policy, & Internet Evolution by Tom Vest, UC San Diego Supercomputer Center (CAIDA) * Open Source VoIP Platform in Carrier Environments by James Jones, Virtual Realm Software * Dealing with Joe-jobs (spam backscatter attacks) by Simon Howard, DMZGlobal Ltd * Network Control Planes: Subscriber authentication, authorization, and accounting, network policy deployment and enforcement, and a look at solutions to do that by Alastair Johnson, Alcatel-Lucent On the Wednesday we have * APNIC Internet Resource Management Essentials tutorial. * Microtik RouterOS Training * MPLS and fixed access networks for beginners * Sysadmin Day for sysadmins who work at ISPs. Sessions will be recorded. There are plans to stream the sessions as well BUT one never knows when Murphy's law will strike. Information will be available on the wiki regarding the streams etc when we have the information. The conference is more than just the sessions. It is the people you meet and the links made for future cooperation. Attached is a document that will hopefully help anyone attempting to apply for permission to attend NZNOG at this stage. Perhaps one method is to compare the cost of attending NZNOG with attending training courses. Hopefully it isn't too late for you. Have a good weekend! regards lin

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VoIP and NZ ENUM services
by Nick Larsen 25 Jan '07

25 Jan '07

Hey people, Does anyone know the outcome of the ENUM trial in NZ (by InternetNZ), or is it still going? I've researched it a bit, but it seems the trial has ended (or maybe I just haven't searched hard enough ;)). Any info on ENUM in New Zealand or a pointer in the right direction would be great. Cheers, Nick Larsen

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NZNOG07 Transport Pooling: Auckland CBD - Auckland Airport
by Ian Batterbee 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

For those going down on NZ5077 departing Auckland at 1835, how many, if any, are intending to leave from the Auckland CBD ?

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[Fwd: [Apnic-announce] New APNIC IPv4 address ranges] (fwd)
by Elly Tawhai 24 Jan '07

24 Jan '07

Apologies for duplicate postings -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Apnic-announce] New APNIC IPv4 address ranges Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:00:03 +1000 From: helpdesk(a)apnic.net Reply-To: apnic-talk(a)apnic.net To: apnic-announce(a)apnic.net Dear colleagues APNIC received the following IPv4 address blocks from IANA in Jan 2007 and will be making allocations from these ranges in the near future: 116/8 APNIC 117/8 APNIC 118/8 APNIC 119/8 APNIC 120/8 APNIC APNIC has made this announcement to enable the Internet community to update network configurations, such as routing filters, where required. Routability testing of new prefixes will commence on Friday January 19 2007. The daily report will be published at the usual URL: http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon/debogon.html For more information on the resources administered by APNIC, please see: http://www.apnic.net/db/ranges.html For information on the minimum allocation sizes within address ranges administered by APNIC, please see: http://www.apnic.net/db/min-alloc.html Kind regards Guangliang ________________________________________________________________ Guangliang Pan email: helpdesk(a)apnic.net Resources Services Manager sip: helpdesk(a)voip.apnic.net APNIC phone: +61 7 3858 3188 http://www.apnic.net/ fax: +61 7 3858 3199 ________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Apnic-announce mailing list Apnic-announce(a)lists.apnic.net http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-announce

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AMS-IX claims to be world's largest public 'net exchange
by Matthew Poole 23 Jan '07

23 Jan '07

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/19/ams_ix_record/ "The Amsterdam Internet Exchange (AMS-IX) is claiming to be the world's largest public Internet exchange, after setting a new traffic record earlier this month of 233Gbit/s. It says it now shifts more than 1.5 Petabytes a day, on behalf of over 250 ISPs and carriers." How do our IX's compare? Obviously we won't be even close, a state of affairs not aided in any way by certain policies of certain telcos, but it'd be interesting to know how much traffic does actually traverse, in particular, APE and WIX. -- Matthew Poole "Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."

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NZNOG 07 Wiki and other info
by Lin Nah 20 Jan '07

20 Jan '07

HI Getting to NZNOG If you are flying down from Auckland AND with to get there by the start of tutorials on Wed, the only way is to fly in on Tues evening. The first flight for Auckland - PN will mean you'll be a little bit late. Alternatively you can fly to Wellington and catch a ride from someone to PN (read below). NZNOG wiki I have set up a few wiki pages for NZNOG 07 to help people coordinate their activities. There was no point setting up a wiki just for these few days. I just used the auckland TNC wiki. Anyway start from: http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/index.cgi?NZNOG07_Wiki Basically I have set up sections like Transport and Dinners. Set up your own pages if you want more pages. I have no idea if anyone will find it useful. It was worth trying this once. Transport * This is for people who want rides from anywhere to PN. * There's a page for people who can perhaps save $$ by sharing taxi from the airport to Massey. * I have started up pages for Wellington - PN and Auckland to PN. List there if you have space in your car or are looking for a ride * I've included in the transport page for AUckland to PN the link to the Thrifty car rental that has a good relocation deal. Ie you only pay petrol for hiring car from PN to Auckland. Wednesday Dinner http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/index.cgi?Wednesday_Dinner We are having a curry dinner on Wed evening. If you can make it, add your name to it. This isn't restricted to nznog conference attendees only. Anyone who can make it is welcome. Tuesday Evening It appears a few people are arriving on Tuesday evening. So a page to list who is going to be around etc. regards lin

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