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UFB Upload Issues
by Dave Mill 20 Aug '15

20 Aug '15

Hi all If any RSPs currently have any reports of 100/20 UFB Right Performing customers having only 2M upload could you contact me offlist? If you do contact me I'm really interested in where your BNG is and where your customers are with the issue. If any end users are on 100/20 with only 2M upload also feel free to contact me. I'm more interested in your location and your ISP in this case. Cheers Dave (representing Inspire Net in this post)

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mx.clear.net.nz help please
by Don Gould 20 Aug '15

20 Aug '15

Hi guys, Sorry to say but one of my customers got their computer compromised and it caused a spam dump via one of my servers which now seems to be blocked by clear.net.nz Can someone have a look for me and unblock mx.yournet.co.nz? I can provided more full transcript but I've removed customer details for the public list. Thanks D *From: *MAILER-DAEMON(a)mx.yournet.co.nz <mailto:MAILER-DAEMON(a)mx.yournet.co.nz> (Mail Delivery System) *Subject: **Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender* *Date: *20 August 2015 18:23:47 NZST zzz(a)clear.net.nz <mailto:s.t.ebranch(a)clear.net.nz>>: host mx.clear.net.nz <http://mx.clear.net.nz>[203.97.33.212] refused to talk to me: 554 mxin2-orange.clear.net.nz <http://mxin2-orange.clear.net.nz> xxx host mx.paradise.net.nz <http://mx.paradise.net.nz>[203.97.33.212] refused to talk to me: 554 mxin3-orange.clear.net.nz <http://mxin3-orange.clear.net.nz> xxx host mx.paradise.net.nz <http://mx.paradise.net.nz>[203.97.33.212] refused to talk to me: 554 mxin3-orange.clear.net.nz <http://mxin3-orange.clear.net.nz> Reporting-MTA: dns; mx.yournet.co.nz <http://mx.yournet.co.nz> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: B9B6ED669B X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; Arrival-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:54:26 +1200 (NZST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; xxx <mailto:s.t.ebranch(a)clear.net.nz> Original-Recipient: rfc822;xxx <mailto:s.t.ebranch(a)clear.net.nz> Action: failed Status: 4.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; mx.clear.net.nz <http://mx.clear.net.nz> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 mxin2-orange.clear.net.nz <http://mxin2-orange.clear.net.nz> Final-Recipient: rfc822; xxx Original-Recipient: rfc822;xxx Action: failed Status: 4.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; mx.paradise.net.nz <http://mx.paradise.net.nz> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 mxin3-orange.clear.net.nz <http://mxin3-orange.clear.net.nz> Final-Recipient: rfc822; xxx Original-Recipient: rfc822;xxx Action: failed Status: 4.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; mx.paradise.net.nz <http://mx.paradise.net.nz> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 mxin3-orange.clear.net.nz <http://mxin3-orange.clear.net.nz> -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699 Ph: +61 3 9111 1821 (Melb) I'M COLLECTING COFFEE CUPS FOR PROJECT COFFEE CUP. Deja vue (missing the French accent mark) - literally means already seen, that sense of haven't we been here before.

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Twitter peering in Sydney
by Tim Hoffman 17 Aug '15

17 Aug '15

Greetings, AS13414 is now peering in Australia. We invite AU/NZ eyeball networks to peer with us on the Equinix, IX Australia, and Megaport IXs in Sydney. Please find our details at http://as13414.peeringdb.com, and contact peering(a)twitter.com if this is of interest to you. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Hoffman | Twitter, Inc. 1355 Market St. | San Francisco, CA | 94103

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Apricot 16
by Jamie Baddeley 15 Aug '15

15 Aug '15

Hey folks, We said in Rotorua we'd be keen to subsidise Apricot attendance in 2016. And if memory serves correctly it was for any of the diehard Noggers that always turn up to our conference. We must have had a rush of blood to the head at the time because it turns out we could do that and probably burn out the NZNOG Trust fund at the same time. That's not wise. Now that we've thought about it, what we can do is make 5K NZD available to those who $deserve a subsidy. What we have not worked out is how to define $deserve. But I'm sure we'll work that out. We can update you on that later. There will be some kind of metric related to how much of diehard Nogger you are I guess. Maybe in the meantime you could entertain the list about just how diehard you are. Perhaps the subsidies go to the ones who create the most mirth (whilst staying within the list AUP of course). On a more serious note - just thought we should keep you updated, and we'll advise more a little later as things firm up. cheers Jamie of behalf of the NZNOG Trustees

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Win10 downloads causing UFB congestion?
by Juha Saarinen 13 Aug '15

13 Aug '15

Hello NZNOG, I was reading this: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11495508 <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11495508> just now, which says the Windows 10 upgrade is overwhelming capacity on the UFB (which bit of it?). It’s a single source however, and I was wondering if there are other data points for the traffic increase to look at? Not sure if this is operational as such, so please email me off-list if so. Thanks — Juha

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Re: [nznog] Win10 downloads causing UFB congestion?
by Regan Murphy 11 Aug '15

11 Aug '15

Chris Keall wrote up this in the NBR yesterday with a "yeah....nah". (paywalled) http://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/digital-island-windows-10-upgrades-are-congest… -- Regan ________________________________ From: Juha Saarinen<mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org> Sent: ‎8/‎12/‎2015 9:17 AM To: nznog<mailto:NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [nznog] Win10 downloads causing UFB congestion? Hello NZNOG, I was reading this: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11495508 <http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11495508> just now, which says the Windows 10 upgrade is overwhelming capacity on the UFB (which bit of it?). It’s a single source however, and I was wondering if there are other data points for the traffic increase to look at? Not sure if this is operational as such, so please email me off-list if so. Thanks — Juha _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Re: [nznog] Win10 downloads causing UFB congestion?
by Scott Weeks 11 Aug '15

11 Aug '15

--- scott(a)scottpettit.nz wrote: From: Scott Pettit <scott(a)scottpettit.nz> puff piece designed to spread FUD for Digital Island's own -------------------------------------- Funny, I worked for another Digital Island that existed in Hawaii from the mid-1990s to ~2002. We had PoPs all over the world including NZ. It was bought by C&W and these guys took up the name 2 years later according to their "about us" page. Until now I never heard of them... scott _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Traffic on Akl-IX
by Jesse Archer 09 Aug '15

09 Aug '15

Hey all, A quick heads up about our experience on Akl-IX (community IX based in Auckland, presence in 220 Queen and Vocus Albany). This past week we've seen our traffic coming in via the IX double, in part thanks to Microsoft peering and the Windows 10 updates that are hammering everyone's networks right now :) Also recent growth in peers - I see Compass are on-boarding and a couple of other operators I've spoken with are peering shortly. There are some large content providers on the IX, either directly connected or via "host member ISPs" - so if you've been considering peering and access to content might be a driver for on-boarding and you would like some more info, please speak to Joe Wooller of WAIA on peering(a)akl-ix.nz or you can drop me an email. If you're from: Voyager ICONZ Trade Me Sitehost HD Mediaworks ...I'd love to see you on the IX as we do a bit of traffic each day and the current inbound and outbound paths are not as optimal as they could be. *Jesse Archer* *General Manager*Full Flavour *p. *07 577 0099 *ddi*. 07 281 1391 *s*. Skype "myfullflavour" *e*. jesse(a)fullflavour.nz <jesse(a)fullflavourmedia.co.nz> *w*. fullflavour.nz <http://www.fullflavourmedia.co.nz/> *a. *Basestation, 148 Durham Street, Tauranga *a*. PO Box 16306, Bethlehem 3176, New Zealand

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Some name server changes, SkyTV and Paymark
by paul tinson 09 Aug '15

09 Aug '15

Hi There, I wanted to notify the list that anyone operating recursive resolvers would be wise to flush the following zones from the cache: *.skytv.co.nz *.paymarkclick.co.nz Lastnight the name servers for these where switched to ns1, ns2 and ns3.spark.co.nz. The TTL on the NS record was 24hrs at the time of change so these could still be in cache as the old record. Regards Paul

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Chorus CCIL availability
by Jonathon Exley 05 Aug '15

05 Aug '15

Hi NOGers, The Chorus Co-Innovation Lab (CCIL) is being upgraded to a new software release in preparation for a UFB production upgrade later this year. The Wellington and Auckland nodes will bounce several times today and tomorrow, as we exercise the upgrade and rollback procedures. [cid:image001.jpg(a)01CF4F55.0ABA26E0] Jonathon Exley Network Specialist Layer 2 T +64 4 896 4190 M +64 27 514 8048 E jonathon.exley(a)chorus.co.nz<mailto:jonathon.exley(a)chorus.co.nz> Level 8, State Insurance Tower, 1 Willis Street Wellington www.chorus.co.nz<http://www.chorus.co.nz/> Aon Hewitt Best Employer in Australasia 2012 & 2013 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail This communication, including any attachments, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis-transmission or error. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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Chorus EUBA + IPV6
by Simon Allard 02 Aug '15

02 Aug '15

Since it seems to be ipv6 month here at NZNog I thought I would bring this up. Some of you have commented that Orcon is in trial mode for IPv6 and are probably wondering why we haven’t progressed. We have had IPV6 enabled for a while and have a good number of ipv6 customers online now. However we found an issue on the Chorus network which stopped us rolling it out further. (UFB ipv6 was another battle which requires beer!) What we found was some Chrous DSLAMS with certain card types would drop IPV6CP packets in one direction when doing the PPPoE->PPPoA conversation. It would seem that these cards don’t support Ipv6. Weirdly enough it would seem it is the newer card types used for Broadband IP. (citation needed). This in itself isn’t a major but we also found our NFV4 modem would reset its entire PPPoE stack if the IPV6CP conversation started but didn’t complete as expected, so customers would constantly be disconnected and cycle around. (The Genius modem works well with ipv6) The NFV4 issue aside (we are resolving with the Vendor). We approached the Chorus tech team and they helped identify the issue but that’s is where its hit a brick wall. The Chorus op team are not keen on fixing the issue nationwide as it involves new code versions, a massive amount of testing and a long rollout program. (I can understand where they are coming from). To summarise: IPV6 doesn’t work on Chorus EUBA on some line card types Only affect PPPoE->PPPoA translation PPPoE end to end is fine. Chorus say IPV6 not supported on EUBA Customer numbers effected are smallish. We will fix the NFV4 issue, but keen to rollout more IPV6 to all customers, not just the lucky ones on card types which work. Has any other ISP’s (the bigger ones especially) noticed this? As it will require some pressure to get some progress. Cheers, Simon Allard Orcon/Callplus [cid:image92256e.PNG(a)016ea4ce.48a80470] Simon Allard // Senior Network Architect D: 09 550 2790 M: 020 100 0790 F: www.callplus.co.nz<http://www.callplus.co.nz> | www.slingshot.co.nz<http://www.slingshot.co.nz> | www.flip.co.nz<http://www.flip.co.nz> | www.orcon.net.nz<http://www.orcon.net.nz> This message and any attachments contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately via email and then destroy this message and any attachments.

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ARP _request_ with Target Protocol Address = 255.255.255.255
by Ewen McNeill 02 Aug '15

02 Aug '15

On the off chance that someone else has seen this before and knows what causes it, does anyone know of any software that generates ARP _Requests_ with the Target Protocol Address (TPA) of 255.255.255.255 (all ones). Such that results in this sort of log message from picky switches: <188> Jul 29 10:47:13 [SWITCH] ARP[ipMapForwarding]: ipmap_arp_api.c(1147) 1021154 %% Received ARP Request on interface Vl1 with bad target IP address 255.255.255.255. Sender IP is [REALIP], sender MAC is [REALMAC]. As far as I can tell they happen _approximately_ every 5 minutes, but definitely not to the second. I'm told the Sender IP is a relatively old Windows host, but the Windows admins don't know of anything installed which would do that. Searching the Internet doesn't turn up much. I did find UNARP (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1868) but that's supposed to be an unsolicited ARP _Reply_, and this is a Request; and besides this isn't the scenario UNARP was invented for anyway. The only other speculation I can find is maybe it's a gratuitous ARP that doesn't follow RFC5227 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5227; which says that Target Protocol Address should be set to the address you want to claim), but that also seems implausible (especially since the DHCP leases at this site are longer than 5/10 minutes). Any thoughts as to what might be generating it welcomed. Ewen PS: This is not the ARP being _broadcast_ to the all address 255.255.255.255; that happens all the time on requests. This is asking "who-has 255.255.255.255"!

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gnodal switches
by Rob McDonald 28 Jul '15

28 Jul '15

Hi, Slightly OT maybe. Not an operational issue. But where else would you ask? Has anyone heard of what happened to gnodal? They sprang up, released some fairly impressive switches, went into receivership then were purchased by Cray computing... 18 months later you can buy their hardware on ebay... $5000 kiwi landed for a 72port 10gig SFP+ chassis? Has anyone made use of this kit? Cheers Rob

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Call for Presentations - DNS-OARC Fall Workshop, Oct 2015 -- Deadline Extended
by Sebastian Castro 28 Jul '15

28 Jul '15

The next DNS-OARC Fall Workshop will take place in Montreal on Oct 3rd and 4th, the weekend before NANOG65. DNS-OARC is requesting proposals for presentations, with a preference for DNSSEC work. We are looking for the whole spectrum, from measurement work using passive and active techniques, to applications and potential new uses of DNSSEC. This workshop intends to build from previous strong DNS-OARC workshops, where operational content and research is welcome. Presentations from DNS operators are particularly welcome, as well as from DNS researchers. All DNS-related subjects are accepted, introduction to new tools, visualizations, data analysis, DNSSEC and novel uses of the DNS. If you are an DNS-OARC member, and have a sensitive topic you would like to present for members-only, we will accommodate those talks too. Time will be available for lighting talks to fit short presentations (5 to 10 minutes). Workshop Milestones 17 June 2015, Call for Presentations posted 17 June 2015, Open for submissions 14 August 2015, Deadline for submission (Deadline extended by two weeks) 20 August 2015, Final Program published 1 October 2015, Final deadline for slideset submission Details for abstract submission will be published here: https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/24/call-for-abstracts/ The workshop will be organized on different tracks, depending on the topics and the timing of each presentation. If you are interested in a lightning talk, let us know at the time of submission. You can contact the Programme Committee: https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/programme via <submissions(a)dns-oarc.net> if you have questions or concerns. Sebastian Castro, for the DNS-OARC Programme Committee DNS-OARC is also seeking sponsorship for this workshop, please contact <sponsor(a)dns-oarc.net> if your organization is interested in becoming a sponsor. (Please note that DNS-OARC is run on a non-profit basis, and is not in a position to reimburse expenses or time for speakers at its meetings.) -- Sebastian Castro Technical Research Manager .nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited) desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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Android "stagefright" bug, aka "The Android End Times"
by Mike Forbes 27 Jul '15

27 Jul '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Seems this is pretty hot right now. Basically every single android device - and it seems very difficult to imagine a scenario where all those devices could be patched. Suggestions for mitigating include disabling the "Auto download / Auto retrieve" portion of your MMS app and/or disabling the MMS APN in your mobile settings. Though, of course the vulnerability is in the media library so assume the malicious code could be sent via other means. In talking to @jduck (he's a Kiwicon regular!) he's openly commented that this exploit could be definitely wormable. Sources: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/950-million-android-phones-can-be-h… http://blog.zimperium.com/experts-found-a-unicorn-in-the-heart-of-android/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQQcBAEBCgAGBQJVtrdXAAoJENoDRsDWj78uMxwf/0AmB3LCWaPN7JT+9dlyQfUR YGppVe9ehpLXg0hhZod9//IJ0GXXhO1TeYwXVgO3E5fPKjNCy1DBv4eCrp/HAnBS 13r04j+H7H4tFy+KjPUHj546+U0KxAk8K4R08NGsyhpnSL4vIrm4m8D2MsOzlU/n YuiVHqCsxyO3YQ+FZDh24tLGCnoy+HrhFa+ry/i1KNOPdRFZmtrHwET5BBKX9q0I n/Dfgo1z4Lbfs6D5QmH1A2AhHXQx8fUiW0mNdOfd/SW4Thmwj7xPJVo36PGimYPQ 8qznIlLJLX9BgFZ10uVmCJaQEH2M1ZD1cV8WhnAgznSISTx8oopo5A3Qgk/D3Ltg LXApd09pv8fQbjq15fUmDc1buAYB/On7lkpboWxFSo2UHV3ua5YK0rz9Yag4TaBU Ii3+6a2dwW933qUQlLn7JR0ibv+yKsHeK/zjnd0WC8iaDGb+I33hdf+fL9DU7re/ DF0k0ku7E8Uf7209A+yz+2kW0qrE9guldvn4M3mGC4ptG0QQvRPEiTynxARO9pjW iWTix+zDkD8qlyUw2aiK9yTaXhdYQRUHcoBmVrs+HCQABLgQmpdZ/8FBZGFE3F0F KHRmLaPuhTeeKprHti2JoVU98/5OYGNMzYrRs13jV1I399vJSVP6grUIPIpk7M8i zI8vqsXmBNAK2CYK++WHINccjkFfZf6hJ1V59Ajv1VjeSkmFfuEveO2+AIjOvrBr Bv3ZcflxTZsmqxHrOhrU/VclpT8qprc8GoFYMLSpLmQsLqGG5H9ih5vLhz8H7wXe lDuwjXZbtRmAh4BtfCGZoR20KJExNipgoZlFN0zD46Y91F/CFYvMGOlQlmi978i/ 1CrQ6MAU/7krFGPGUXnf4ChXfDzxH41E90Sb02xHsl6542Cf21z9yjdTqavGln2R z6nnDhIM+FfbGdh/IxdBBQT334Dlaby+HDnHfv9z8NzmA+g6l4rnZn7g04O0r5oq 68odwxL59mUyC1Uhp1NIxcTSxgD+Rj8ZWs98auQkYFOrUoW2QlsmIAvqbZIQY0sT /isSYpsP/pO74mBt62fjz/dcrDwiPypDdT0iZxmgfeD+Jjlo78KxoVCpLxxBtKUw ykxvD3yhqsY4nJf6KkyRMJ3CgkNTNifmdJ/LhJ+0pbO9+zh8gL0kWO/S5WLg2nt4 CtRfOeQ4WwPX7PEmmtSs38L1oA3YUcRBYq2eseg0915WFO6tXjx/9Ej/Fj3lZ0jZ vWzF/PcTxkohBZk2CrnWBXxhbAgGtSNPzHzxDFMcu2kkLrDR0dn7efd5TDbbzRTe Dur1XFAmcGMh8KuW2HxqkOMu/fPLmbgufjxNcy7PG2CWZy7Xn8TwnGAyNnrvcCI= =cyK6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Any 2talk NOC lurking?
by Pete Mundy 27 Jul '15

27 Jul '15

Hi 2talk Just on the off-chance any of your guys are lurking on this list? You seem to have dropped a route and all traffic bound to your NS is going nowhere as of shortly after 6am today. I've tried lookups and pings from connections on quite a range of ISPs and they all show the same thing. Some traceroute examples are included below just as a reference. It's not the first time the route to the network hosting your NS has dropped. Have you ever considered having a tertiary NS elsewhere, say maybe on AWS or something? Just a thought. Anyway just a heads up since I can't access your live portal to lodge a ticket ;) (and a warning for others on list in case they are affected by it too). Cheers, Pete [from a Spark link] Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. dsl-router.lan 0.0% 3 1.5 1.4 1.3 1.5 0.1 2. 122-56.78-178.n4l.sparkdigital.co.nz 0.0% 3 59.1 24.6 7.2 59.1 29.9 3. 122-56-99-251.n4l.sparkdigital.co.nz 0.0% 3 15.0 30.4 15.0 60.8 26.3 4. 122-56-99-250.n4l.sparkdigital.co.nz 0.0% 3 15.5 17.6 15.5 21.6 3.5 5. 122-56-99-253.n4l.sparkdigital.co.nz 0.0% 3 15.8 15.4 14.9 15.8 0.5 6. ??? 7. ae8-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz 0.0% 2 25.8 25.8 25.8 25.8 0.0 8. ??? [from a Snap link] fpl-rpi17 (0.0.0.0) Tue Jul 28 07:16:35 2015 Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. fritz.box 0.0% 6 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.1 0.1 2. 133.7.69.111.static.snap.net.nz 0.0% 6 2.8 5.1 2.8 13.5 4.2 3. ??? [from a Solarix link] vvm2.fiberphone.co.nz (0.0.0.0) Tue Jul 28 07:17:14 2015 Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. ge-1-1-1-340.core-0.ive.chc.unleash.net.nz 0.0% 6 1.0 1.0 0.6 2.1 0.6 2. ae1-22.core-0.sho.chc.unleash.net.nz 0.0% 6 1.1 1.5 0.8 3.3 0.9 3. ae0-3221.core-0.que.akl.unleash.net.nz 0.0% 6 17.1 17.3 16.8 18.3 0.5 4. 116.90.129.203 0.0% 5 17.8 17.2 16.7 17.8 0.4 5. ten-0-3-0-500.bdr01.akl05.akl.VOCUS.net.nz 0.0% 5 17.1 17.4 17.1 17.5 0.2 6. ???

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National Broadband Map launched yesterday
by Sebastian Castro 23 Jul '15

23 Jul '15

Hello members of the NZNOG community: NZRS launched the National Broadband Map (https://broadbandmap.nz) yesterday with the participation of Hon. Amy Adams. We had an overwhelming response and our team had to clock some extra hours to scale up everything nicely to cope with the load. We are getting calls and messages noting the accuracy in certain border cases. We are working with our data suppliers to ensure the information we're presenting is as accurate as possible, and new data will be added in the next weeks to improve it. We are open to receiving your comments and feedback, and definitely planning a presentation about the process for the next NZNOG meeting. Kind Regards, -- Sebastian Castro Technical Research Manager NZRS Ltd. desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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CallPlus Routes / Akamai Coming via Vocus / AKL-IX??
by Liam Farr 22 Jul '15

22 Jul '15

Hey, Anyone else seeing this, routes to CallPlus are being advertised to AKL-IX by Vocus rather than by CallPlus direct. As an example this is breaking 'www.stuff.co.nz' for me. The path by Vocus seems really 'fucked' (like its aggressively shaped down to nothing) so HTTP takes forever to load. Liams-MacBook-Pro:~ liamfarr$ traceroute www.stuff.co.nz > traceroute: Warning: www.stuff.co.nz has multiple addresses; using > 119.224.143.41 > traceroute to a1784.g.akamai.net (119.224.143.41), 64 hops max, 52 byte > packets > 1 192.168.6.1 (192.168.6.1) 0.710 ms 0.394 ms 0.332 ms > 2 unallocated.maxumdata.net (103.247.154.2) 0.427 ms 0.434 ms 0.397 > ms > 3 vl0901.core2.qs220.maxumdata.net (103.247.154.141) 0.585 ms 0.651 > ms 0.586 ms > 4 vl0233.edge1.qs220.maxumdata.net (103.247.154.38) 0.645 ms 0.672 > ms 0.613 ms > 5 43.243.21.6 (43.243.21.6) 1.580 ms 1.459 ms 1.529 ms > 6 ten-0-1-0-2.cor01.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz (114.31.202.122) 2.139 ms > 2.088 ms 2.294 ms > 7 bundle-10.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz (114.31.202.101) 2.560 ms > 2.764 ms 2.314 ms > 8 as4610.cust.bdr02.akl05.akl.vocus.net.nz (175.45.102.66) 24.271 ms > 24.166 ms 24.251 ms > 9 pts-n.cpcak4-r1.tranzpeer.net (101.98.5.20) 2.297 ms 2.175 ms > 2.254 ms > 10 p1.akamai.callplus.net.nz (119.224.143.1) 1.488 ms 1.633 ms 2.441 > ms > 11 p41.akamai.callplus.net.nz (119.224.143.41) 1.624 ms 2.116 ms > 2.334 ms liam(a)QS220-EDGE1:~$ show ip bgp 119.224.143.41 > BGP routing table entry for 119.224.142.0/23 > Paths: (4 available, best #3, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) > Advertised to non peer-group peers: > 103.247.154.37 103.247.154.42 103.247.154.186 192.203.154.150 > 2403:4d00:fff:ffff:ffff:ffff:20:2 > 45177 4610 9790 > 103.247.152.241 from 103.247.152.241 (14.1.32.4) > Origin IGP, localpref 50, valid, external > Community: 55785:502 > Extended Community: RT:45177:1117 > Last update: Thu Jul 9 06:37:46 2015 > 45177 4610 9790 > 103.247.152.213 from 103.247.152.213 (14.1.32.4) > Origin IGP, localpref 50, valid, external > Community: 55785:502 > Extended Community: RT:45177:1117 > Last update: Thu Jul 9 06:34:55 2015 > > > > > * 4826 4610 9790 43.243.21.6 from 43.243.21.1 (43.243.21.1) > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best Community: 55785:202 > Last update: Wed Jun 24 04:15:20 2015* > 23655 9560 9790 > 111.69.34.225 from 111.69.34.225 (43.225.200.2) > Origin IGP, localpref 90, valid, external > Community: 55785:302 > Last update: Sat Mar 28 03:36:00 2015 As CallPlus peer on AKL-IX I would have expected to see them advertising their own routes, rather than just advertising these to Vocus who are then 'breaking them'. Perhaps someone from CallPlus could fix their advertisements, and someone from Vocus could either fix their 'bottleneck' or stop advertising the routes. -- Kind Regards Liam Farr Maxum Data +64-9-950-5302

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Junos and RPKI validation
by Dave Mill 16 Jul '15

16 Jul '15

Hi all NZNOG, and especially Michael Fincham and Tim Hoffman, had done a big push both at our conferences and on this list to get people using RPKI route validation. We were a test customer using the NZRS service at http://validator.rpki.net.nz/rtr-sessions . Someone with an observant eye may have noticed that we silently stopped using this validator a few weeks ago. We hit a 'minor' issue where Junos would restart _all_ routing daemons and produce a core dump when running a session to a RPKI validator. It affects 12.3R9 12.3X48-D10 13.3R4 14.1R3 14.2R1 15.1R1 and happens on J-series, M-series, T-series, MX-series, EX Series, SRX Series. PR for those with a Juniper login - https://prsearch.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=prcontent&id=PR1010216 Upgrade to a recent release of your choosing to fix. Just figured I'd share for anyone else who is doing RPKI validation on one of these releases. For now we've stopped doing RPKI validation until we can arrange an upgrade of the routers involved. Cheers Dave

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dual sim (3g) routers
by Jodi Thomson 12 Jul '15

12 Jul '15

Hi Folks We're on the hunt for a dual-sim (3g) router. Have done some googling but not sure what may or may not work with our 3/4G networks. Primary objective is to have 2nd 3G link as failover to second network (eg spark -> vodafone), but aggregation would be helpful also if networks support it (eg vodafone-vodafone) Wondering if anyone on the list knows what is available in NZ? Off list replies welcome to prevent clutter Cheers Jodi PS Beer -- Jodi Thomson Systems & Networks Web Connect Ltd Unit 1, 501 Heretaunga Street West Hastings, 4122 Ph: (06) 281 2324 (ext 802) http://www.webconnect.nz

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Whither NzWrt?
by Dave Taht 12 Jul '15

12 Jul '15

I am curious if the NZWrt idea ever got any traction? It certainly seemed saner for me for a set of ISPs to agree on one specific hardware type, get software that met their needs, make it stable as heck, and to maintain it themselves.... -- Dave Täht worldwide bufferbloat report: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat And: What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast

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NZ TCF very bad SSL FYI
by Tony Wicks 08 Jul '15

08 Jul '15

HI guys, one of my users reported being unable access the IPMS platform this morning and it appears Firefox and Chrome are calling bul### on the really bad SSL on the TCF website and blocking access. IE still works but really shouldn't. Anyone on the TCF on this list, please sort your your technical people, this is just not good enough ! https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=ipms-prod.tcf.org.nz

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4-wire SHDSL routers in NZ
by Dmitry Konchanin 06 Jul '15

06 Jul '15

Hi all We are suddenly in need of a couple 4-wire SHDSL EFM routers. There is basically no retail market for shdsl devices, ones we found are only 2-wires or have to be ordered with a lead time of couple of weeks (except pricy Cisco 888E option). If somebody has an access to stocked supply of such devices, could you please contact me off the list. -- Kind regards, Dmitry Konchanin

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Intac program
by Dean Pemberton 02 Jul '15

02 Jul '15

Hi all, The Programme for this year's InTAC is now up: http://2015.nethui.nz/programme/day-0-intac This year there is a focus on "The Netflix Effect; Organic Growth or Step Change?" What does the changing face of user demand look like? What happens when people who previously only used their home connections for email and web, start using it for multiple 4-5Mbps streams? What happens when everyone on their street does that? Take a drive down any New Zealand street and look at all the Sky dishes on the roof â€“ what if every one of those houses was trying to pull 20Mbps during primetime instead? What would our network do with all that demand? We take a look at his problem, from the people at one end to the content delivery at the other. Registrations for this and the rest of the NetHui programme are still open here: https://nethui2015.lilregie.com/step1 See you next week! Dean -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential.

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Fwd: [PAG] Fwd: InternetNZ deeply disappointed with Global Mode withdrawal
by Joel Wirāmu Pauling 23 Jun '15

23 Jun '15

FYI; ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jordan Carter <jordan(a)internetnz.net.nz> Date: 23 June 2015 at 16:48 Subject: [PAG] Fwd: InternetNZ deeply disappointed with Global Mode withdrawal To: Policy Advisory Group <pag(a)mailman.internetnz.net.nz> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Aimee Whitcroft* <news(a)meltwaterpress.com> Date: Tuesday, 23 June 2015 Subject: InternetNZ deeply disappointed with Global Mode withdrawal To: jordan(a)internetnz.net.nz A better world through a better Internet InternetNZ deeply disappointed with Global Mode withdrawal InternetNZ is deeply disappointed at announcements today that the Global Mode service is being withdrawn from New Zealand. "Global Mode was a great example of Internet-based innovation that challenged traditional content distribution models. It was by no means clear that the service was illegal, and we were keen to see the matter go before the courts to provide users and the industry with clarity." said InternetNZ Chief Executive Jordan Carter. The removal of this service means that New Zealanders have fewer options to pay for content. Restricting consumer access to paid content services on the basis of geographic content monopolies seems the wrong answer to resolving copyright concerns. "Withdrawing the service and settling before court seems a worse outcome for all concerned. The media companies have said that they wanted to clarify their own legal rights over content - a settlement doesn't achieve this, and leaves us all none the wiser." "There remains a number of questions that will now go unanswered due to this withdrawal. Internet users and innovation have taken a back seat to entrenched old media interests." "This outcome makes it ever more important that we review New Zealand copyright law, to ensure that the interests of consumers and creators are appropriately balanced." said Carter. *ENDS* For more information, please contact Andrew Cushen, Acting Chief Executive: - 021 346 408 - andrew(a)internetnz.nz www.internetnz.net.nz *Disclaimer: *If you do not wish to receive further news/releases from Internet NZ, please click the following link: [Remove Me] <http://app.meltwaterpress.com/mpress/removeme.html?cId=3507196&sId=171920&c…>. Requests will take a maximum of 2 business days to process. Contact information: Aimee Whitcroft, Internet NZ, Grand Arcade Tower, 16 Willis Street, Wellington, 6011 -- Jordan Carter Chief Executive, InternetNZ +64-21-442-649 | jordan(a)internetnz.net.nz Sent on the run, apologies for brevity _______________________________________________ Pag mailing list Pag(a)mailman.internetnz.net.nz http://mailman.internetnz.net.nz/mailman/listinfo/pag

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Call for Presentations - DNS-OARC Fall Workshop, Oct 2015
by Sebastian Castro 17 Jun '15

17 Jun '15

The next DNS-OARC Fall Workshop will take place in Montreal on Oct 3rd and 4th, the weekend before NANOG65. DNS-OARC is requesting proposals for presentations, with a preference for DNSSEC work. We are looking for the whole spectrum, from measurement work using passive and active techniques, to applications and potential new uses of DNSSEC. This workshop intends to build from previous strong DNS-OARC workshops, where operational content and research is welcome. Presentations from DNS operators are particularly welcome, as well as from DNS researchers. All DNS-related subjects are accepted, introduction to new tools, visualizations, data analysis, DNSSEC and novel uses of the DNS. If you are an DNS-OARC member, and have a sensitive topic you would like to present for members-only, we will accommodate those talks too. Time will be available for lighting talks to fit short presentations (5 to 10 minutes). Workshop Milestones 17 June 2015, Call for Presentations posted 17 June 2015, Open for submissions 30 July 2015, Deadline for submission 20 August 2015, Final Program published 1 October 2015, Final deadline for slideset submission Details for abstract submission will be published here: https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/24/call-for-abstracts/ The workshop will be organized on different tracks, depending on the topics and the timing of each presentation. If you are interested in a lightning talk, let us know at the time of submission. You can contact the Programme Committee: https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/programme via <submissions(a)dns-oarc.net> if you have questions or concerns. Sebastian Castro, for the DNS-OARC Programme Committee DNS-OARC is also seeking sponsorship for this workshop, please contact <sponsor(a)dns-oarc.net> if your organization is interested in becoming a sponsor. (Please note that DNS-OARC is run on a non-profit basis, and is not in a position to reimburse expenses or time for speakers at its meetings.) -- Sebastian Castro Technical Research Manager .nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited) desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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Onsite Cisco Switch Install - Tomorrow - lunchtime-ish (Auckland)
by Skeeve Stevens 16 Jun '15

16 Jun '15

Hi all, I need a Cisco switch installed in Auckland tomorrow. It is already onsite and will need to be wiped (if anything is on it) and the config provided loaded, then installed into a rack. If you can assist, please let me know off-list with availability (tomorrow obviously) and rates. As usual I get a dozen responses... I will accept the first appropriate one, but sorry if I don't reply to everyone. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect* eintellego Networks Pty Ltd Email: skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.nz ; Web: eintellegonetworks.nz Phone: +612 8014 7398 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve Facebook: eintellegonetworks <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; Twitter: eintellego <https://twitter.com/eintellego> LinkedIn: /in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Arista - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering

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IANA AS Numbers registry update
by Selina Harrington 11 Jun '15

11 Jun '15

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of the following block to RIPE NCC in June 2015: 202240-203263 Assigned by RIPE NCC 2015-06-11 203264-204287 Assigned by RIPE NCC 2015-06-11 You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.xml The allocation was made in accordance with the Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks to Regional Internet Registries: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/global-policy-asn-blocks-2010-09-21-en Regards, Selina Harrington ******************************************* Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: +1 310 301 5800 Fax: +1-310-823-8649 *******************************************

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Re: [nznog] racks for beer.
by Stuart Pigneguy 10 Jun '15

10 Jun '15

I also have two 19" server racks (with doors) no longer required and can be exchanged for beer. I believe they are 42U, available for pick up in Auckland on Monday 22nd. Otherwise they'll be scrapped! - please reply off list Cheers, Stuart NZNOG lurker since 2001

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DEI bit on Fortigate D series
by Dan BAJARCA 09 Jun '15

09 Jun '15

Hi All, Just sharing a bit of knowledge around issues we've had with Fortigate firewalls on UFB Accelerate plans. Some of our customers reported slow download speeds (generally close to 2Mbps) when using Fortigate D series firewalls on UFB 200/100 (tested with 30, 60 and 90 models). The issue is caused by the units dropping inbound packets with the DEI bit set and showed up on 5.0 and 5.2 software. After some extensive troubleshooting with Fortinet they've eventually acknowledged the fault and moved it to their bug queue. Hopefully a fix isn't too far away. If you're currently battling this issue, a tested workaround would be to configure the circuit as untagged. Chorus should also be able to disable the DEI bit marking on a per service provider basis but better think twice before requesting it. Cheers, Dan

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Assistence with Brocade CNA
by Tristram Cheer 09 Jun '15

09 Jun '15

Hi All, I've run out of options for an issue we've got with some brocade 1020's we're using in a pinch, Is there anyone who's familiar with the 1020's and vmware on the list who's able to drop me a message off-list? I'm hoping it's a simple thing and some beer for your efforts. Cheers Tristram Cheer Network Architect - Most problems are the result of previous solutions... [Visit our Website]<http://www.uber.co.nz/> 09 438 5472 Ext 803 | 022 412 1985 | PO Box 5083, Whangarei, 0140 t(a)uber.co.nz<mailto:t(a)uber.co.nz> | www.ubergroup.co.nz<http://www.ubergroup.co.nz> [http://uber.co.nz/uploads/signatures/fb-s-v4.png]<http://ubergroup.co.nz/fb> [http://uber.co.nz/uploads/signatures/twitter-s-v4.png] <https://twitter.com/#!/ubergroupltd>

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Where can congestion occur on a UFB (GPON) network?
by Joel van Velden 03 Jun '15

03 Jun '15

Hi all, At Auckland Thursday Night Curry I asked what I thought was a simple enough question: "In this this new world of GPON fibre that is UFB, /where can congestion occur/?" Obviously at handovers, no question, but where else? From what I can figure, given a hypothetical GPON network using a 24-way optical split (seems to be number quoted in a NZ context) Standard GPON suggests 2.488 Gbps down, so split 24 ways is 103.7 Mbps (Not sure what packet sizes) So if all customers behind a splitter are provisioned at a maximum of 100Mbps down, there could be /no/ congestion? Obviously this is not the case with 200 and 1000 down being sold. Are there other possible points of congestion between the point of handover and the GPON switch? (forgive me I'm not up with the exact terminology. OLT?) What have I got wrong? -- Regards, Joel van Velden

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RE Legal Text on TICSA - Visit to Wellington/ Seeking input
by Beau Murrah 27 May '15

27 May '15

Hello NZNOG list, Some months ago I emailed to the list about my plan to produce a legal manual/critical to guide to the TICSA legislation for network operators/the list. I got some feedback from people on this list and outside of it that there was interest in such analysis and some highlighted a number of particular issues to look into/affecting them. My original hope was to have it completely edited and ready to share to the list about this time - I know updated guidance was/is planned to be released by the NCSC soon (or has already been released). Well, Im still going at it but it is proving difficult topic to write about and finish into a usable and credible form. My text is currently 6500+ words - and I think there are definitely some genuinely some useful or novel things for consideration but it is also all over the place. Initial feedback on the very rough draft was that it doesn’t seem clear exactly exactly who I am writing for - seeming like a mix of legal academic essay and direct practical consideration for network operators and also partly political content about the nature of bureaucracy in this area (the latter Ive decided to cut out as much as possible. I believe writing about this topic is difficult because I realised I don’t know much about what the worklife of a network operator of a truly large network is actually like at all. I have read/seen most all of the publicly available information - close reading of the legislation and related legislation, NCSC guidance, information from this list and so on. None of the technical people I know are network operators. It is hard to gauge what the level/type of interaction with the Agency is actually like broadly. I really don’t want to inadvertently publish any bullcrap technical claims and there is plenty of cyber-paranoid stuff out there already. So, I digress- I am visiting Wellington later this month (28th-31st May) and I would love to get insight from a network operator(s) over beer/coffee/water. I am actually less interested in what TICSA compliance has been like for you - and I don’t expect or want you to “leak” anything or disclose anything - but to hear more about the worklife of a network operator in general day to day that would come under examination in any potential legal proceeding under TICSA. To give a quick preview of my text, it focuses on the fundamental importance of good faith in the legislation to protecting you from any worst case scenario from alleged non-compliance. It considers what remaining in good faith could look like in a situation of alleged non-compliance and what variety of reasons or events could lead to non-compliance while good faith has been retained by the network operator. This depends on a lot on getting an understanding your workflow and obligations and what kind of people are you expected to report to and way that evidence accumulates in your day - much like in any employment situation or potential examination/dispute. There is very limited legal precedent to what Good Faith actually is from legislation and case law around the issue of employment and law and collective bargaining. How good faith might be interpreted involving network operators dealings with the Agency is a very open question and something all network operators ultimately have an interest in. I will say that the guidance provided to you by the NCSC guidance is not legal binding guidance and makes particular assumptions about the nature of good faith. It is very possible that this entire law will never effectively see a day in court if the narrative that this regulation is intrinsically a piece of national security and good faith flatly means following the Agency’s commands or striving to meet their interpretation of compliance. I do not think this is correct nor is anyway certain. I will add though, an actual Court case under this legislation’s confidentiality and evidential provisions will attempt to turn a civil court into a “Secret Court” like FISA this Country has never really seen and will intimidate the most experienced of lawyers, Judges and Court staff - there is a huge impetus to avoid this situation, and hopefully this can be put more in the network operators favour, rather than to scare them. I invite you to email me off-list if you want to meet, or to email on-list to propose a venue/time on-list for people to chat as a group. Happy Budget day, ___________ Beau Murrah Ph: +64 27 375 7897 Email: bmurrah(a)icloud.com <mailto:bmurrah(a)icloud.com> - PGP: https://keybase.io/airbridge <https://keybase.io/airbridge> Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmorganmurrah <https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmorganmurrah> Enrolled Barrister and Solicitor of the High Court of New Zealand (NB: not a lawyer <https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/for-lawyers/joining-the-legal-profession/admi…>)

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Re: [nznog] Need assistance troubleshooting a DNS issue
by Glen Eustace 27 May '15

27 May '15

To satisfy the curious and to provide some closure on this incident, I have included a statement from Ryan Joe. The incident began approx last Oct/Nov and was resolved last week. I would like to thank Peter Lambrechtsen for getting the right people at Spark to contact me and for their perseverance working through what turned out to be more than one non-trivial issue. The impact, unfortunately, was not wide spread and hence had gone largely un-noticed but had the potential to impact a lot more people. I don’t believe that it is my place to go into the details of the issues, what was found and how they were fixed. Perhaps a Spark engineer would be prepared to do so as I believe it would be of interest to many on this list. "As discussed on Friday, this email is to acknowledge that Spark experienced a problem with our DNS which resulted in some Spark customers being intermittently unable to access content hosted at godzone.net.nz <http://godzone.net.nz/>. I’d like to sincerely apologise for any frustration or inconvenience caused by this – we have now fully resolved the issue” Ryan Joe Senior Product Manager - xDSL -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 4446 Ph: +64 6 357 8168 <tel:%2B64%206%20357%208168>, Fax: +64 6 357 8165 <tel:%2B64%206%20357%208165>, Mob: +64 27 542 4015 <tel:%2B64%2027%20542%204015> "Specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services since 1997"

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Random number generators
by Nathan Ward 25 May '15

25 May '15

Hi all, As we all know, random numbers are an important part of cryptography, which is required for tools that are important to network operators like the widely deployed RPKI. Most systems today generate random numbers using a PRNG, rather than a dedicated hardware random number generator. A PRNG is only as good as its entropy source - if you have a small amount of entropy, an attacker can start to predict the output of your system’s PRNG, which is obviously bad. There are a number of existing tools for generating entropy: - HAVEGE implementations (i.e. http://www.issihosts.com/haveged/) - Audio/video sources (audio_entropyd and video_entropyd) - Some other things like mouse/keyboard input (i.e. when you wiggle your mouse over that window in whatever that app was that generated keys, puttygen maybe?) - Network interrupts is also a common source A week or two back I was a little hungover and didn’t want to do any real work, and decided to write my own entropy harvesting tool, and have the code available at the below URL: https://github.com/nward/trueentropy I strongly encourage you NOT to run this on production systems, until it has been certified (a good standard to shoot for would be NIST SP 800-90B perhaps), but I would like to get feedback, so please read the code and suggest improvements. Perhaps you have some additional sources of entropy data that would be useful. I would particularly like a good way to “boil down” the entropy generated. The Linux kernel by default can take up to 4096 bits, and this provides far, far more than that, which just seems like a bit of overkill. Please feel free to submit pull requests with ideas for that - it would be a great project to learn a bit of Python. Generally, entropy should not be sourced from a system you don’t control, or sourced over a network you don’t control, for obviously reasons. However, the quality of the data is so good in this case that I believe it negates those concerns. The data is also fetched with HTTPS, so as long as the source doesn't also starting using this as their entropy source (known as entroception) we should be OK - see my recommendation about production systems. -- Nathan Ward (opinions all my own, blah blah blah)

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Dark fibre in the outer wilderness of... Parnell
by Matthew Poole 24 May '15

24 May '15

Hi all I'm getting discouraging information on the availability of dark fibre around the bottom end of St George's Bay Rd in Parnell, near Xero and the Textile Centre. Seems that nobody has any, or at least nobody is mentioning any. If anyone knows of dark fibre capacity in that area could they please contact me off-list. Cheers -- Matthew Poole "The difference between theory and practice is that practice is easier in theory than theory is in practice"

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Re: [nznog] Random number generators
by Nathan Ward 23 May '15

23 May '15

> On 24/05/2015, at 15:12, Dean Pemberton <dean(a)deanpemberton.com> wrote: > > > I can't imagine that if you were an ISP you wouldn't know exactly where any TrueNet probes were in your network. That is possibly true if you’ve paid TrueNet for probes. If your customers have opted to have one without your involvement (which I assume is possible, given ComCom give them money to do just that across NZ) then that’s unlikely. > The only question then is which of the following strategies you employ. > > 1) do nothing. > 2) make this user the best on your network > 3) randomise the results > 4) tweek the results to spell out "what is six times nine” As I’m sure you can imagine, I’m keen to work on solutions to implement (4) if any network providers who have TrueNet portal access are keen for some fun. > Nathan, have you had a look at any other systems (SamKnows) to see if they are any closer to measuring Internet Good-ness? Briefly, but not in a while. My understanding is that SamKnows is much the same as TrueNet - a set of contrived tests, though they do a much better simulation of a web page load than TrueNet and it’s use of “URL Downloads using the WGET command” - but I don’t believe it’s anywhere near perfect in today’s javascript heavy world, where clients cache static content etc. etc. -- Nathan Ward

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Anyone else having GGIS speed problems?
by Nathan Ward 19 May '15

19 May '15

Hi all, Beware, operational content. A couple of hours ago I started noticing weird things getting to stuff overseas. Looks like GGIS have some sort of path flapping that doesn’t care about IP flows. I see RTT to sites in the US jump from ~125ms to ~160ms several times per second, which to me is indicative of going the short and long way around the SXC network, respectively. # hping3 -S -p 80 216.146.46.10 HPING 216.146.46.10 (eth0 216.146.46.10): S set, 40 headers + 0 data bytes len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=55 DF id=33739 sport=80 flags=SA seq=0 win=65535 rtt=129.1 ms len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=55 DF id=47972 sport=80 flags=SA seq=1 win=65535 rtt=132.3 ms len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=53 DF id=48561 sport=80 flags=SA seq=2 win=65535 rtt=159.6 ms len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=55 DF id=35481 sport=80 flags=SA seq=3 win=65535 rtt=128.1 ms len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=54 DF id=49791 sport=80 flags=SA seq=4 win=65535 rtt=158.7 ms len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=55 DF id=36729 sport=80 flags=SA seq=5 win=65535 rtt=132.2 ms len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=53 DF id=50960 sport=80 flags=SA seq=6 win=65535 rtt=158.8 ms len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=55 DF id=37839 sport=80 flags=SA seq=7 win=65535 rtt=129.1 ms len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=55 DF id=38397 sport=80 flags=SA seq=8 win=65535 rtt=129.2 ms len=46 ip=216.146.46.10 ttl=54 DF id=39075 sport=80 flags=SA seq=9 win=65535 rtt=158.8 ms The above example is a bunch of SYN packets so are different L4 flows so it’d be *sort of* reasonable for them to go different ways. However, you see plenty of out of order TCP packets if you do a long running flow (like say trying to load a web page with large objects, such as speedtest.net) Out of order packets means TCP cries a bunch and goes slow. This is the effect I see. Note also the TTL differences and correlation to RTT. I do not see the TTL hopping around when looking at a single TCP stream, though I do see different TTLs on two concurrent streams, so I suspect that’s some other ECMP happening that isn’t a problem. Who knows where that might be, but I don’t believe it’s important. This particular host I have tested to is the speedtest.net main web server. I see the out of order packets when doing a regular speedtest.net test to the Sonic.net endpoint in California (I think San Jose?). Here is what mtr sees when tracing to the same host as above. It is unclear to me why hop 9 doesn’t see the same weird latency. It sees it sometimes, but not all the time. Perhaps there’s something about the way mtr sends packets that means the hashing is different over some sort of aggregate interface/ECMP thing. Maybe that’s where our TTL difference from above happens. I *always* see the frequent latency changes (jitter, I guess) on hop 8. 7.|-- ae1-10.tkbr12.global-gate 0.0% 10 3.3 3.5 2.2 5.3 0.7 8.|-- xe-0-0-7-3.sjbr3.global-g 0.0% 10 130.5 136.1 126.3 163.1 14.2 9.|-- ae0.pabr5.global-gateway. 0.0% 10 154.8 154.7 154.1 155.9 0.5 Here are some more samples that show the differences in later hops, but always hop 8 having jitter: 7.|-- 202.50.232.37 0.0% 10 3.5 3.2 1.5 4.1 0.7 8.|-- 122.56.127.22 0.0% 10 160.2 148.0 127.7 160.2 15.0 9.|-- 122.56.127.25 0.0% 10 158.2 148.6 132.2 166.9 14.3 10.|-- 203.96.120.74 10.0% 10 159.0 159.0 158.2 160.0 0.4 11.|-- 4.28.172.109 0.0% 10 167.6 171.3 166.3 207.7 12.8 7.|-- 202.50.232.37 0.0% 10 2.9 3.3 2.7 4.2 0.3 8.|-- 122.56.127.22 10.0% 10 159.3 147.1 126.6 168.7 17.1 9.|-- 122.56.127.25 10.0% 10 158.7 146.9 132.5 166.3 13.8 10.|-- 203.96.120.74 10.0% 10 159.7 158.8 158.0 159.7 0.0 11.|-- 4.28.172.109 20.0% 10 167.0 167.4 166.8 168.1 0.0 At least two providers have (or are in the process of) logging faults, so I figured it’s appropriate to bring it on to the list. Is anyone else seeing this behaviour? Do you have any feedback from GGIS yet? Have you had any customers complain about poor speeds/user experience? -- Nathan Ward

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Situations Vacant: Network Operations Team Leader
by Mark Foster 07 May '15

07 May '15

'evening folks. A quick 'sits vacant' advertisement; my Network Operations Team Leader is heading across the ditch for a new role shortly and I'm beginning the recruiting process to replace him. Looking for someone who speaks BGP and MPLS reasonably fluently and can help manage our network, managed security and datacentre operations, and also has some leadership potential (with two direct-reports to manage, in addition to the technical skills sought). If you're interested or know someone who might be, please contact me off-list for further information (keeping this deliberately light on advertisey-type-speak). The role is located in the Auckland CBD. Thanks, Mark. -- Mark Foster Technical Services Manager - Australia & New Zealand [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: iconz-webvisions-logo-png] www.iconz-webvisions.com<http://www.iconz-webvisions.com/> Follow us on LinkedIn<https://www.linkedin.com/company/iconz-webvisions-group?trk=company_logo>

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Bitcoin/DDoS Ransoms
by Dean Pemberton 06 May '15

06 May '15

Hi all, Wearing my NZITF hat this time. We've put out a release this morning to get the message our about the latest round of "Pay us Bitcoin or your network gets DDoSed' You can see the release here: http://nzitf.org.nz/news.html But why I really wanted to address this audience was that one of our suggestions to organisations is... · Establish points of contact with your Internet Service Providers (ISP) in the event that you need them to perform traffic filtering. Defence against many attack types is most effective when performed before it reaches your network. To date NZITF has had reports of organisations being able to handle these attacks effectively through collaboration with their ISPs. And I wanted to make sure that all the Network Operators on the list had a heads up that A) Organisations might call you asking for help and B) you should work out what you'd do to help them. In fact free to take the release, tweek it and send it out to your customers if that helps. Regards, Dean

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Cisco Fellow Fred Baker - OpenStack on IPv6: Authorization vs Routing
by Nathan Ward 05 May '15

05 May '15

Hi, Apologies to those who are on InternetNZ members-discuss who’re seeing this for a second time. This looks like it would be fairly interesting for some people on the list. I’d be going myself if I’d known about it sooner! Thanks to Hamish MacEwan for posting it originally. -- Fri, May 8, 10:00 – 12:00 Cotton Club, Cotton 350 ECS Seminars Description Fred Baker will discuss concepts and a project in an architecture for OpenStack/IPv6, with a view to simplification and scaling in large datacenters, multi datacenter operations, multi-administration projects, and hybrid datacenters. Bio: Cisco Fellow Fred Baker has been involved in data communications since 1978 and the development of the Internet since the 1980's. He has been involved in standards development in the IETF, both contributing technically and managing processes. His current interests are in routing, the management of latency and data flow, the universal deployment of IPv6 (especially in OpenStack data centers), and the public policy implications these issues bring with them. http://ecs.victoria.ac.nz/Events/Seminars?rm=details&id=973 -- Nathan Ward

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APNIC 40 Conference - Call for Papers
by Elly Tawhai 29 Apr '15

29 Apr '15

________________________________________________________________________ APNIC 40 Conference - Call for Papers ________________________________________________________________________ Hi NZNOG Community, The APNIC 40 Program Committee is now seeking presentations for the APNIC 40 Conference in Jakarta, Indonesia. We are looking for content that would suit the APOPS Plenary, technical conference sessions, lightning talks and Birds of Feather (BoF) sessions. Key Dates --------- The timeline for submissions is: Call for Papers Opens Now First Round Paper Acceptance 17 July 2015 Final Deadline for Submissions 14 August 2015 Final Round Paper Acceptance 21 August 2015 Final Slides Received 4 September 2015 Submitting Proposals -------------------- http://submission.apnic.net/user/login.php?event=28 Program Material ---------------- The technical sessions at APNIC 40 will include presentations relevant to Internet operations and technologies. The following topics are examples of possible areas of interest. - ISP and Carrier Services - IXPs and Peering - Network and infrastructure security - Access and Transport Technologies - Content and Service Delivery - Software Defined Networking and Network Function Virtualization If you have any other ideas or proposals for panel or BoF sessions, please feel free to submit your ideas via the submission system. If you have any questions, please email the Programme Committee: pc-chairs(a)apricot.net For more information about APNIC 40, please visit: https://conference.apnic.net/40 On behalf of: ________________________________________________________________________ Dean Pemberton & Mike Jager APNIC 40 Program Committee Co-chairs ________________________________________________________________________

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IANA AS Numbers registry update
by Selina Harrington 29 Apr '15

29 Apr '15

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of the following block to ARIN in April 2015: 64198-64296 Assigned by ARIN 2015-04-29 394240-395164 Assigned by ARIN 2015-04-29 You can find the IANA AS Numbers registry at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.xml The allocation was made in accordance with the Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks to Regional Internet Registries: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/global-policy-asn-blocks-2010-09-21-en Regards, Selina Harrington ******************************************* Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: +1 310 301 5800 Fax: +1-310-823-8649 *******************************************

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Re: [nznog] Looking for data on how much Netflix/SVOD data NZ ISPs are seeing
by Richard Naylor 28 Apr '15

28 Apr '15

At 09:23 a.m. 29/04/2015, Barry Murphy wrote: >Obviously the cache fill that happens between >midnight and mid-day consumes some bandwidth, we >find the fill capacity (after the initial fill) >is about 1.2gbps for on average 2-4 hours per day. >We currently share our cache on Megaport IX >Auckland, in doing so we find weâre filling a >few other providers caches so they donât have >to fetch it from AU, so this may be helping some providers. Thanks Barry - Thats REALLY useful. I'm involved in downstream activity in 2 areas. First - Uploading We have a current project moving some older videos from a server in NZ to Vimeo. Theres a weekly 20GB limit on uploads and an ugly web uploader (no restarts and a break means a complete re work). Using ADSL its pretty ugly. It takes 3.5 days to get 20-30GB up and ADSL 'breaks' make life a real pain. So I pay a local church to use their UFB. We find that uploading during the day conflicts with US based uploaders, so only get 10Mbps upload. If I wait until 5pm, we get a pretty good 100Mbps and the 20GB is up in about an hour. The first time we did it a 2.5G file that took 12 hours ( and failed) on ADSL went up in 4 minutes. Looking at the graph, it seems we have a nice window between 5pm and 8 or 9pm to do our uploads. Thats great to know. The second issue - Live feeds. We're doing quite a bit of live TV feeding using the net now. We have RX points with both TVNZ and TV3 - and also Sky Sport UK. The local TV companies are OK - its local (bounces out of SYD) and only SD and they don't really trust this IP stuff. Sky UK is different. We send them HD at 4Mbps and after some small adjustments for latency, can do live crosses with 3 sec delay (4 sec total allowing for return audio for the talent earpiece). NZ to UK is pretty solid. The other night we tried UK to NZ. NZ RX was via ADSL. We found we could only get a 1Mbps feed going. (vs 4Mbps going the other way) We need to do more testing as there are feed aggregation points and they are different depending on direction, but we have been wondering if there was congestion along the way causing the issue. If so we need to avoid doing crosses during the 'flix' peak. We are also going to test where we do the feed aggregation to see if that helps. Currently NZ to UK has aggregation in London, while UK to NZ has aggregation in LAX. We think its the LAX to NZ leg that suffers. More testing required. Richard

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Looking for data on how much Netflix/SVOD data NZ ISPs are seeing
by Dean Pemberton 28 Apr '15

28 Apr '15

Hi Everyone. Following recent media articles making mention of "the Netflix effect" and broadband slowdowns at peak times, we've had a number of requests to see if we could pull together some facts from NZ ISPs detailing what they are actually seeing. So the question is... How much Netflix/SVOD traffic are you seeing, either as a direct measurement or percentage of total traffic. Does this percentage change at all during the day/week. I realise that this may be considered commercially sensitive but I'm sure we can find a way to make it work. If you're happy to give number on the list that would be great. Good on you for sharing. If you're not comfortable with that then drop me a line and we can discuss how you might feel more comfortable about sharing the facts. I'm happy to agree to only give an aggregated number from people who contact me privately for eg "ISPs are seeing between X and Y % SVOD traffic" Or you could just tell me and I'll keep it to myself (not quite as helpful but I can use it for context). You could also tell me "we have no way of knowing" and I guess that's a data point too :). Thanks -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential.

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Need assistance troubleshooting a DNS issue
by Glen Eustace 26 Apr '15

26 Apr '15

>From about October/November last year we have been getting the odd call from some of our customers to report that our servers are ‘not found’. So far, each report has been from an Xtra broadband user. When investigating these reports we have found that the servers were fine and DNS lookups from various sources (except Xtra) were as well. Last night the issue happened to a member of the family so I was able to jump onto their computer using Teamviewer and do some more thorough diagnostics. My results were; Name servers in use: ns1.xtra.co.nz <http://ns1.xtra.co.nz/> and ns2.xtra.co.nz <http://ns2.xtra.co.nz/> Name servers pingable from PC: Yes Does smtp.godzone.net.nz <http://smtp.godzone.net.nz/> resolve: No, times out Do other resources in our DNS resolve: No, time out Do resources in other DNS servers resolve: Yes Are all 4 of our name servers pingable from PC: Yes, 2 in NZ and 2 offshore Use nslookup to query our name servers directly, does smtp.godzone.net.nz <http://smtp.godzone.net.nz/> resolve: Yes Use nslookup to query our name servers using 8.8.8.8, does smtp.godzone.net.nz <http://smtp.godzone.net.nz/> resolve: Yes To fix the issue on the PC, I manually set the name servers to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, all our services were then resolvable and useable. So, whats going on ? How are our servers different ? Well, we are one of the few ISPs that are using DNSSec to sign zones. Is DNSSec broken ? Not according to dnsviz.net <http://dnsviz.net/> The problem is also intermittent, I have heard that the two Xtra servers are actually LB VIPs in front of a farm of name servers. With the intermittent nature of the issue I wonder whether one server in the farm might be broken/misconfigured, just a thought. I have tried, without success to contact appropriate people at Xtra to either comment or assist and have failed to get past the level one helpdesk people. Their only response being “Sorry we can’t help you”. I am not saying this is an issue with Xtra’s internal recursive DNS servers but so far I have been unable to replicate the issue and have had no reports from any of our other customers using alternative broadband suppliers. I have run out of ideas now on how to continue to investigate this and just changing to Google’s DNS servers might work but isn’t a great solution. If anyone has any suggestions I’d appreciate hearing from you. Glen. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 4446 Ph: +64 6 357 8168 <tel:%2B64%206%20357%208168>, Fax: +64 6 357 8165 <tel:%2B64%206%20357%208165>, Mob: +64 27 542 4015 <tel:%2B64%2027%20542%204015> "Specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services since 1997"

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MyRepublic Hamilton Outage
by Laurence Bullivant 26 Apr '15

26 Apr '15

Morning, This is more of a curiosity post then anything else, but does anyone know what is going on with the MyRepublic outage in Hamilton? Its gone past 72hours now and the only thing that is being said is that its a fault with the UFF handover. I don't know about anyone else but the idea of upstream provided having a fault that could take down an entire region for more then three days makes me a little nervous. Time to go check those SLA's anyone? -- Laurence Bullivant laurence(a)bullivant.co.nz 021 909 906

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Fibre tails in NZ
by Sam Sarkis-UIP 24 Apr '15

24 Apr '15

Hi All, We have a customer looking to get 50/50M and some 30M/10M tails in NZ but we need to deliver them to Sydney happy to do something over Megaport. Can anyone who can assist please contact me off list. The tails are in Auckland and Christchurch. Kind regards Sam

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Entries open for the 2015 ANZIA awards
by Dean Pemberton 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

New Zealand is the host of this year's Australia and New Zealand Internet Awards, the ANZIAs! The ANZIAs will be held on 27 August, in Auckland at St Matthews in the City. The ANZIAs are a collaboration between auDA (www.auda.org.au) and InternetNZ. An annual event celebrating the achievements of organisations, businesses and individuals who excel in delivering accessible, innovative, informative and secure resources to a diverse and wide community on the Internet. ANZIAs are awarded to categories covering six areas: Security & Online Safety, Access & Digital Skills, Information, Diversity, Innovation and in 2014 we introduced The Leonie Dunbar Memorial Award for Community Websites. But more importantly, entries are open now! And you can get nominating right here: http://www.internetawards.org.au/how-to-enter/ Winners receive recognition as industry leaders that have set new standards for making the Internet a more inclusive, accessible and safe place. The awards offer public exposure, media coverage, networking opportunities, optimisation of future grant applications, recognition for hardworking staff and volunteers and a cash prize. Since InternetNZ is hosting the ANZIAs this year, it is an excellent opportunity for us to host the very best in New Zealand Internet innovations. So – get applying, get the word out, and we will see you at the ANZIAs -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential.

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Re: [nznog] Need assistance troubleshooting a DNS issue
by Glen Eustace 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

> On 24/04/2015, at 7:52 am, manning bill <bmanning(a)isi.edu> wrote: > > anything inline that is sensitive to IPv4 UDP packets that are: ) larger than 512 bytes, ) fragmented. > do these replies have IPv6 or DNSSEC data in the RRsets? I would say yes, as all our hosts have both A and AAAA records. Assuming the above, that moves the issue back in my direction. I am seeing requests from a number of the rNS servers and the issue is intermittent so still more trouble shooting needed I think :-) Glen

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Re: [nznog] Need assistance troubleshooting a DNS issue
by Glen Eustace 23 Apr '15

23 Apr '15

> On 24/04/2015, at 7:14 am, manning bill <bmanning(a)isi.edu> wrote: > > tosses MTU issues into the mix. IPv6 & DNSSEC make for large UDP replies, which tend to choke some infrastructure kit... 2 of our 4 name servers are fully dual stack but the queries I do see coming from the Xtra rNS farm are all IPv4. Glen.

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Baseband IP
by Dave Mill 20 Apr '15

20 Apr '15

Hi all If there are any other providers out there actively using Baseband IP I would love to hear from you. Could you email me off-list? Just very interested if you experience a similar issue/symptom to us (Inspire). I'm already talking to Chorus about this as well. Cheers Dave

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BGP Map 2015 edition
by Blair Harrison 18 Apr '15

18 Apr '15

Hi All I've just made up a new version of my DFZ Map, taking routeviews data and making it somewhat visible.. FWIW there is about 20Mb of json data on the page, so you probably don't want to load it from your phone. http://jedi.school.nz/sg2015/ Note, I haven't included anything other than routeviews.org data so the APE/WIX/etc peerings aren't included in this version. There was a bit of feedback from the last version that it would be good to search by ASN as well as name, so you can do that in this version. All feedback welcome on or offlist. Cheers, Blair

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Re: [nznog] BGP Map 2015 edition
by michael.sutton 18 Apr '15

18 Apr '15

Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: Dean Pemberton <nznog(a)deanpemberton.com> Date: 19/04/2015 17:13 (GMT+12:00) To: Blair Harrison <nznog(a)jedi.school.nz> Cc: NZNOG <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] BGP Map 2015 edition Heh - Awesome. You've even managed to get New Zealand at the top of the smudge =P On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Blair Harrison <nznog(a)jedi.school.nz> wrote: > Hi All > > I've just made up a new version of my DFZ Map, taking routeviews data and > making it somewhat visible.. > > FWIW there is about 20Mb of json data on the page, so you probably don't > want to load it from your phone. > > http://jedi.school.nz/sg2015/ > > Note, I haven't included anything other than routeviews.org data so the > APE/WIX/etc peerings aren't included in this version. > > There was a bit of feedback from the last version that it would be good to > search by ASN as well as name, so you can do that in this version. > > All feedback welcome on or offlist. > > Cheers, > Blair > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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BCP for BGP
by Jamie Baddeley 17 Apr '15

17 Apr '15

HI Folks, One of our colleagues from AUSNOG mentioned this, and I thought it'd be worth reposting here as I'd imagine it's required reading for many of you (which I'm sure you have of course!). Cheers jamie RFC7454 - "BGP Operations and Security" https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7454 "Abstract The Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is the protocol almost exclusively used in the Internet to exchange routing information between network domains. Due to this central nature, it is important to understand the security measures that can and should be deployed to prevent accidental or intentional routing disturbances. This document describes measures to protect the BGP sessions itself such as Time to Live (TTL), the TCP Authentication Option (TCP-AO), and control-plane filtering. It also describes measures to better control the flow of routing information, using prefix filtering and automation of prefix filters, max-prefix filtering, Autonomous System (AS) path filtering, route flap dampening, and BGP community scrubbing."

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New RIPE Atlas anchor in New Zealand
by Sebastian Castro 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Dear community: We'd like to announce that the first of two RIPE Atlas [1] anchors [2] sponsored by NZRS has been installed in Auckland North Shore, and became active this morning. The anchor support both v4 and v6. This is the second anchor in New Zealand, the first hosted at Waikato University. The second anchor will be installed in Wellington at a later time, once some network architecture work is completed. NZRS is committed to support Internet research and network measurement, we are also Atlas ambassadors and we have Atlas Probes [3] available to distribute. If you are interested on hosting one for your own benefit and the benefit of the community, please contact me. We are currently using the Atlas probes located in New Zealand to conduct a topology discovery experiment from which you will hear in the coming weeks. [1] https://atlas.ripe.net/about/ [2] https://atlas.ripe.net/get-involved/become-an-anchor-host/ [3] https://atlas.ripe.net/get-involved/become-a-host/ Cheers -- Sebastian Castro Technical Research Manager NZRS Ltd. desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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beating bufferbloat with better hardware
by Dave Taht 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

When I was at the nznog conference there was a lot of despair about a lot of aspects of the fiber deployment, and the quality of the home gateways, and what seemed to be promising plans to try to get openwrt with fq_codel running on nzwrt... did you all despair completely? I talked about all the great things we could do to improve our devices with openwrt, and and beat bufferbloat in particular with fq_codel in my talk... and since then I have worked to get fq_codel in more and more OSes and hardware. UBNT has added configuration tools for it in their upcoming edgerouter 1.7 release. VyOS just added it. It is in click. It is in fedora 22. It is spreading (And of course, already in all modern linuxes, openwrt, dd-wrt, ipfire, shorewall, etc). There was no sign of a pulse at tilera or mikrotik, but I will keep trying. Still... to one day get hardware that has low latency and good queue management at gigE speeds or higher requires better hardware offloading techniques than the bulk notions like GRO and TSO that exist today. And it has long been obvious that the rate limiting + fq_codel techniques we use successfully at sub 200mbit speeds do not scale higher. So the algorithms need to move into hardware, also. *******so... a brief commercial interruption***** I think the open source design method has worked spectacularly for software, and I think the same methods can work for hardware if only we can pull together larger communities to do the work, worldwide. There are only 24 hours left on this kickstarter - we CAN *start* to take back the edge of the internet - if we can only find another 5k of funding. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onetswitch/onetswitch-open-source-hard… This FPGA board´s pcie interface and switch design - and the split memory interfaces between the programmable logic and the onboard dual A9 core - and reducing the cost from 7000 to 700 bucks - are the important parts to why the community needs this board - in my case - so that more of htb + fq_codel can move into hardware that anyone can build and use - in other cases? who knows what could be done with it!? One day, we could move the logic into asics, and finally have open source, blob-free hardware to work with for any network purpose. There are people on these lists with money, and there are those with talent and time, and it would be great if more of those people could line up with each other. I put in all I could spare (8500 dollars) into this kickstarter. I have one of their high end boards, already. It´s great. There is a get one give one program that I asked meshsr to put in to try and enable that event. If there is anyone here that would like to help hack together the next generation of edge network hardware, after this kickstarter completes, let me know. I return you now to your normal despair about vendors not listening, and crappy OSes you can´t otherwise fix. -- Dave Täht We CAN make better hardware, ourselves, beat bufferbloat, and take back control of the edge of the internet! If we work together, on making it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onetswitch/onetswitch-open-source-hard…

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SNMP for Mako / SecureME
by Tom Henderson 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Wondering if anyone here knows if Mako routers (Spark's SecureME offering) can be monitored with SNMP? We use observium to monitor our servers and existing Cisco gear, but so far it looks like I can only monitor these from the SecureME web portal. Cheers Tom Henderson IT Manager | Pack & Company | 027 461 4403 | tom(a)pack.co.nz -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must not disclose, copy, or distribute any information contained in or attached to it, or take any action/inaction based on it. Please contact us immediately, and delete this email from your system. Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and not of Pack & Company (NZ) Limited (the "Company"), however any intellectual property contained in or attached to this email is the property of the Company. Thank you.

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Call for presentations for AusNOG 2015
by Jamie Baddeley 06 Apr '15

06 Apr '15

A Call for Presentations from our mates across the ditch. Cue comments about Cricket, Currency Parity, Phar Lap, Pavlovas, Russell Crowe, Crowded House, Underarm bowling, etc etc.. Cheers Jamie ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Terry Manderson <terry(a)terrym.net> Date: 1 April 2015 at 05:39 Subject: [AusNOG] Call for presentations for AusNOG 2015 To: ausnog <ausnog(a)lists.ausnog.net> Call for presentations for AusNOG 2015 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Langham Hotel Melbourne 27 & 28 August 2015 Topics =-=-=- Internet operations can be a broad topic and the programme committee will be short-listing presentations in the following focus areas: * Improving the redundancy/resiliency/sustainability of your network * Making leaps in service or network availability * Taking the network operations BCP to the next level * Using 'offline' communications tools to keep the network working * How technology is changing network architectures * Evolution in network architectures and scaling issues * Analysis of relevant major operational events of the year Additional topics that are of interest to the network operator community are also welcome at AusNOG 2015. Naturally, presentations of a marketing nature are not welcome at this technical event. Notes to presenters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Preference will be given to presentations that result in actual operational outcomes. Session speakers should be prepared to present for 30 minutes. Keynote speakers will be expected to present for 45 minutes to 1 hour. Short presentations of strong operational content are also acceptable. Once the final slides are submitted, changes will only be permitted where the presentation requires the most up to date information or data. By submitting a presentation for consideration in the AusNOG 2015 programme, and if selected the presenter will allow AusNOG to: * Take photographs of the presentation and presenter * Record and rebroadcast video and audio of the presentation and presenter * Redistribute the presentation slides, audio, video, and photographs electronically, on the AusNOG website, or otherwise but leaving all intellectual property in the hands of presenter or rightful property holder[1]. Deadlines =-=-=-=-= 04 June: Submission of presentation title, presentation description (300 words), and presenter biography (200-400 words) 02 July: Presenters notified of their acceptance status as an AusNOG 2015 presentation. 20 August: Submission of final presentation slides as Portable Document Format (pdf), PowerPoint, or Keynote. Provision of a recent digital photograph (<500k) of the presenter. All submissions must be sent by email to organisers AT ausnog DOT net. A separate call for lightning talks will be made closer to the AusNOG 2015 event. As in previous years you must be registered to attend AusNOG 2015 in order to be considered for a lightning talk. [1]: AusNOG accepts that some speakers are unable to allow us to archive their presentation due to company or corporate policy, and if the situation arises AusNOG will delete all copies in its possession after the presentation. Lightning Talks =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Have something awesome or cool to share that isn't a full presentation? New to presenting, and still want give back to the community? Why not consider a lightning talk? Lightning talks are short (max 10 minute) presentations on topical material. There is no requirement for any slides! A call for lighting talks will be made nearer to AusNOG 2015. Cheers Terry (For the AusNOG Board)

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Hosting for test server - recommendations?
by Richard Nelson 24 Mar '15

24 Mar '15

Hi, We want to perform some testing of consumer broadband connections over the next three months. We are looking for somewhere to host a server for throughput testing. Happy to pay. The main requirements are for a neutral site well connected to all the major ISPs and for a network connection to easily handle (i.e. not limit) throughput for consumer speed connections - up to 200Mb/s (not gigatown). The testing will be for about 5 mins worth of streams per hour from an equal mix of ADSL, VDSL and UFB with tests staggered to occur one at a time. Testing repeats every hour. We can lease or provide our own server. If we get really lucky we'd like one site in Auckland and one not in Auckland. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thanks, Richard Nelson WAND Network Research Group.

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ICT Equip Gensets & Ubiquity NZ for Vanuatu
by Andy Linton 20 Mar '15

20 Mar '15

Big ups to Primo Wireless in New Plymouth - this kit is on its way to Vanuatu. -- Andy Linton Mobile: +64 22 474 7156 Skype: asjlnz

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Are you `asnet2' or `202.7.1.239' on the WIX?
by Michael Fincham 19 Mar '15

19 Mar '15

Whoever you are, it seems you're announcing some busted routes to the route servers, with an AS path of "429010481". -- Michael

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ratelimiting/aqm/FQ on mikrotik/routerOS info
by Dave Taht 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

I am curious as to any existing support for ratelimiting and AQM/FQ on the tilera gear they have? Policing? anything? Keep hoping to make progress on this: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=473253#p473253 -- Dave Täht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb

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Vanuatu CYCLONE RECOVERY PROJECT
by Andy Linton 17 Mar '15

17 Mar '15

>From one of the .VU government coordinators: We urgently need the following. Can anyone supply and where from. I can assist with logistics from Auckland, Brisbane, Sydney. Please reply ASAP Item Quantity Spec USB RF Power Meter 1 Agilent U2041XA Cable and Antenna Analyser 1 Sitemaster PDR48 calibration kit 1 Sitemaster Transmission Analyser 1 JDSU MTS-5800 Please contact me and I'll put you in touch if you can help -- Andy Linton Mobile: +64 22 474 7156 Skype: asjlnz

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Re: [nznog] openwrt capable routers for NZ?
by Ray Taylor 16 Mar '15

16 Mar '15

I understand as its generic firmware, I assume there will be many different compatible hardware options. The big thing though is the voip needs to be capable which may reduce your compatibility list. The market in NZ has dramatically changed with computer stores selling less and less routers, and the home users just using the router issued free from their ISP. And to make it work for an ISP in a fibre world, it needs to have a built in voip ATA Software: - WAN/LAN bridge mode - uPNP - IPv4 / IPv6 - Programmable 0.0.0.0/0 or gateway address when lan + wan in bridge mode - voip must work when in bridge mode. Have had problems with zyxel and others having no gateway address breaking voip when in bridge mode - router must be accessible from behind another nat gateway via a port forward. Enabling WAN admin access doesn’t always make this work with many routers Hardware: - Price point of $40-$50 so we can issue them free with service - A higher priced, higher speed option would be good for fibre based services - 3dbi antenna, 18db tx power - 802.11n 2.4ghz option. We don’t see the need for ac for at least 3 years There was recently a project between geekzone and telecom to build a "standard router for NZ" which was designed to be the perfect one with all the features that the GZ community wanted, could be issued for free by telecom and was capable of being used for DSL and fibre. They got as far as taking bids for the project from companies like huawei and the likes. Most of the features that the GZ community were proposing I found to be useless as an isp supplied router, but it would be worth looking at the feature list. I think a bit of googling might be needed to get to the feature voting page in the forums - it may have been deleted. Ray Taylor Taylor Communications ray(a)ruralkiwi.com Ph 021-483-280 Network status 06-929-9082 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Taht [mailto:dave.taht(a)gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 10 March 2015 11:45 a.m. To: Ray Taylor Subject: Re: [nznog] openwrt capable routers for NZ? always helpful to have that list. And have that list discussed publicly. This is the only public talk I have given about wifi... see second half. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wksh2DPHCDI On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Ray Taylor <ray(a)ruralkiwi.com> wrote: > Im keen to take part > Wouldn’t know anything about designing firmware other than the list of features that I need. > > > > Ray Taylor > Taylor Communications > ray(a)ruralkiwi.com > > Ph 021-483-280 > Network status 06-929-9082 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Dave Taht > Sent: Tuesday, 10 March 2015 11:14 a.m. > To: Jed Laundry > Cc: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: [nznog] openwrt capable routers for NZ? > > I see this thread has kind of died... I am looking for people willing to participate in the upcoming make-wifi-fast project. Along the way, we'll probably build a pretty good firmware for general use on some off-the-shelves piece of hardware, and it would be good to be able to test with your upcoming fiber deployment(s) as well as on the WISP sides of things. > > Please let me and jim gettys know if you are interested in helping out on this. > > -- > Dave Täht > Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > -- Dave Täht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 147, Issue 16
by Bevan McNaughton 16 Mar '15

16 Mar '15

We have 2x NanoStation M5's spare - let us know if you want them. Bevan On 17 March 2015 at 12:00, <nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to > nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ubiquiti gear for Vanuatu (Andy Linton) > 2. Re: Ubiquiti gear for Vanuatu (Dean Pemberton) > 3. Re: Ubiquiti gear for Vanuatu > (Matthew Harrison - PrimoWireless Ltd) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:53:20 +1300 > From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)nsrc.org> > To: NZNOG List <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [nznog] Ubiquiti gear for Vanuatu > Message-ID: > <CALS-_Orno8qXbJUY78nNPBcTig+v6= > XkM5nzzmZOYPUneSHj4Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Here's what they're going to need. > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Jethro Webston wrote: > > > Hi Andy, thank you for your assistance. We use NanoBridge, NanoBeam, and > > NanoStation M2 & M5. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > Jethro > > We've had a number of offers already but if you have spares of these please > record them at: > > http://aidez.vu > > Be specific with models and quantities if you can. Remember they will need > power supplies and Ethernet cables as well. Fortunately .VU uses the same > plugs as .NZ > -- > Mail: asjl(a)nsrc.org > Mobile: +64 22 474 7156 >

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Ubiquiti gear for Vanuatu
by Andy Linton 16 Mar '15

16 Mar '15

Here's what they're going to need. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Jethro Webston wrote: > Hi Andy, thank you for your assistance. We use NanoBridge, NanoBeam, and > NanoStation M2 & M5. > > Cheers > > > Jethro We've had a number of offers already but if you have spares of these please record them at: http://aidez.vu Be specific with models and quantities if you can. Remember they will need power supplies and Ethernet cables as well. Fortunately .VU uses the same plugs as .NZ -- Mail: asjl(a)nsrc.org Mobile: +64 22 474 7156

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The URL for help for Vanuatu
by Andy Linton 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

It's been a long day! I've sent the wrong URL twice. The urls to use are now: http://aidez.vu or http://help.vu Vanuatu is bilingual and we thought we should do the same! Forget about the flatnet one - I clearly can't remember it so why should you.

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Vanuatu Update & Support
by Jonathan Brewer 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

Hi All, This morning I spoke with a friend from Vanuatu Government and to another who is CTO for Telsat Pacific, the largest TV operator & #2 ISP. Things are in pretty poor shape, but on the bright side: - Both cellular networks are fine in Port Vila - Internet and email from Telecom Vanuatu is working in Port Vila This makes life a lot easier for coordinating support - which will be needed: - Communication to remote islands is gone. It was all C-band satellite and those big dishes did not fare well. - Telsat lost four towers (that they know about) including their primary transmission site - though they expect to have some connectivity restored today or tomorrow. Vanuatu Government is going to nominate a central point of contact for offers of assistance relating to ICT. When that information is available and when they are ready for contact from you it will be posted here. Thanks to those who have already offered hardware and engineering resources - those offers have probably made the days of a few people in Vanuatu today. Thanks, Jon P.S. I'm in the wrong timezone for this (GMT -1) so it may not be me posting with an update.

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Generators for Vanuatu
by Andy Linton 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

Someone form Primo Wireless in New Plymouth offered some generators via http://ushahidi.flatnet.net.nz Can they contact me directly? andy

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"If you want to be an ISP and want your infrastructure to last more than five years...
by Juha Saarinen 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

… you’re already deploying IPv6,” said the ARIN chief exec John Curran. http://www.itnews.com.au/News/401627,ipv6-laggards-to-face-tough-questions-… <http://www.itnews.com.au/News/401627,ipv6-laggards-to-face-tough-questions-…> TL;DR: CGNAT’s bad and IPv4 addresses are getting scarce and expensive, Curran says. Would be interested to hear arguments to the contrary off list (or on list if it’s OK with TEH MORDERATOR) if there are any. -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen <http://twitter.com/juhasaarinen>

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Re: [nznog] Vanuatu Update & Support
by Scott Weeks 14 Mar '15

14 Mar '15

--- jon.brewer(a)gmail.com wrote: From: Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer(a)gmail.com> Things are in pretty poor shape, ---------------------------------- It's going to brush the very northern tip of NZ: http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=spac_slp It currently has 85 MPH winds. http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-183.0… Hopefully, it misses all together. scott _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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NZNOG NOC List Updates
by Dave Mill 13 Mar '15

13 Mar '15

Hi all After our recent discussions on the (lack of) updates to the NZNOG website NOC contact list I have (foolishly?) volunteered to help. The URL of the page is http://www.nznog.org/noc-list . If you have any updates, or if you have previous updates that haven't been handled, then please pass them on to noc(a)nznog.org . I will do my best to update in a timely manner. Also, if you're aware of anything on the contact list that is blatantly wrong (perhaps you're still listed against a company where you no longer work) then let me know. I'll do my best to correct the information or chase up relevant contacts. If I fail in my duties I'll produce a beer for you at the next NZNOG conference dinner.. Cheers Dave

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DNSSEC validation at Spark NZ
by Sebastian Castro 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

Hi: We'd like to share a short technical blog post from NZRS about Spark NZ enabling DNSSEC validation for part of their customers. In brief, DNSSEC related traffic coming from Spark NZ resolvers suffered a massive increase back on Dec 16th, Spark NZ also added new DNS backends for their service, and they are using load balancing to share the load. The article https://nzrs.net.nz/content/dnssec-validation-spark-nz Feedback and questions are welcomed! Cheers, -- Sebastian Castro Technical Research Manager NZRS Ltd. desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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openwrt capable routers for NZ?
by Dave Taht 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

at the end of my talk someone asked me what routers I would recomend to try this stuff on here, and I sort of dodged the question. If you can come up with a list of routers available here (meet me later?), I can tell you what I know about each chipset. (I have evaluated dozens of these over the last year...) In general ath9k based gear is currently best (entirely open wifi driver), with nearly every manufacturer shipping stuff based on that. I see there is a lot of ubnt here, and most of their older products are well supported by openwrt. There is some good work beginning on the latest round of chipsets, but by and large the firmware for 802.11ac is closed.... And so on. I should also point out that there are plenty of other OSes available, and that I'm opposed to a monoculture of any hardware/software combination. See: https://gettys.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/bufferbloat-and-other-challenges/ for more details. -- Dave Täht thttp://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Upcoming_Talks

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Internet in the upper south island
by lenz 07 Mar '15

07 Mar '15

Hi, I am currently trying to figure out if I can get anything else than a weak 3G signal in terms of internet just outside of St Arnaud. The address is 62 Alpine Meadows Drive, Saint Arnaud There is a phone line as well as a few other houses but the Chorus website tells me that they don't have any services there. I tried a few of the bigger providers and many tell me I can have VDSL but either don't come back to me or turn around and say "sorry, mate, can't" Anyone on the list that knows someone who might get anything faster than a 3G link to that address? Happy to shout beers on top of being a very grateful customer :) Thanks heaps cheers

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Orcon Helpdesk
by Keith Davidson 06 Mar '15

06 Mar '15

Is there anyone from Orcon technical subscribed to this list who could contact me offlist please? Cheers Keith

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Call for Presentations - DNS-OARC Spring Workshop, May 2015 -- Deadline Extended
by Sebastian Castro 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

NOTE: Previous message contained the right information, but with the subject referring to the wrong year. Apologies for the noise. The next OARC Spring Workshop will take place in Amsterdam on May 9th and 10th, the weekend before RIPE70. OARC is requesting proposals for presentations, with a preference for DDoS attack reports and mitigation techniques. Reports and field stories can cover DNS-based DDoS attacks, attacks to DNS infrastructure or side effects suffered by cache resolver operators. This workshop intends to build from previous strong OARC workshops, where operational content and research is welcome. Presentations from DNS operators are particularly welcome, as well as from DNS researchers. All DNS-related subjects are accepted, introduction to new tools, visualizations, DNSSEC and novel uses of the DNS. If you are an OARC member, and have a sensitive topic you would like to present for members-only, we will accommodate those talks too. Adopting practice from other conferences, a timeslot for lighting talks will be available for short presentations (5 to 10 minutes). Workshop Milestones * 18 December 2014, Call for Presentations posted * 8 January 2015, Open for submissions * 12 March 2015, Deadline for submission. Please note deadline was extended for an extra week. * 26 March 2015, Final Program published * 7 May 2015, Final deadline for slideset submission Details for abstract submission will be published here: https://indico.dns-oarc.net//conferenceCFA.py?confId=21 The workshop will be organized on different tracks, depending on the topics and the timing of each presentation. If you are interested in a lightning talk, let us know at the time of submission. You can contact the Programme Committee: https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/programme via <submissions(a)dns-oarc.net> if you have questions or concerns. Sebastian Castro, for the OARC Programme Committee OARC is also seeking sponsorship for this workshop, please contact <sponsor(a)dns-oarc.net> if your organization is interested in becoming a sponsor. (Please note that OARC is run on a non-profit basis, and is not in a position to reimburse expenses or time for speakers at its meetings.) -- Sebastian Castro Technical Research Manager .nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited) desk: +64 4 495 2337 mobile: +64 21 400535

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Re: [nznog] [Cerowrt-devel] ping loss "considered harmful"
by Dave Taht 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

I had spoken to someone at nznog that promised to combine mrtg + smokeping or cacti + smokeping so as to be able to get long term latency and bandwidth numbers on one graph. cc added. On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Matt Taggart <matt(a)lackof.org> wrote: > Dave Taht writes: > >> wow. It never registered to me that users might make a value judgement >> based on the amount of ping *loss*, rather than latency, and in looking back in time, I can >> think of multiple people that have said things based on their >> perception that losing pings was bad, and that sqm-scripts was "worse >> than something else because of it." > > This thread makes me realize that my standard method of measuring latency > over time might have issues. I use smokeping > > http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/ in sqm-scripts's case, possibly, all you have been collecting is largely worst case behavior, which I don't mind collecting as it tends to be pretty good. :) However, I have been unclear. In the main (modern - I don't know what version you have) sqm code, IF you enable dscp squashing on inbound (the default), you do end up with a single fq_codel queue, not 3, no classification or ping prioritization. (it is the default because of all the re-marking I have seen from comcast) So if you are, as I am, monitoring your boxes from the outside, there is no classification and prioritization present for ping. do a tc -s qdisc show ifbwhatever (varies by platform) to see how many queues you have. Example of a single queued inbound rate limiter + fq_codel (yea! packet drop AND ecn working great!) root(a)lorna-gw:~# tc -s qdisc show dev ifb4ge00 qdisc htb 1: root refcnt 2 r2q 10 default 10 direct_packets_stat 0 direct_qlen 32 Sent 168443514948 bytes 334370551 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 143273498 requeues 0) backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 qdisc fq_codel 110: parent 1:10 limit 1001p flows 1024 quantum 300 target 5.0ms interval 100.0ms ecn Sent 168443514948 bytes 334370551 pkt (dropped 17480, overlimits 0 requeues 0) backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 maxpacket 1514 drop_overlimit 0 new_flow_count 125872421 ecn_mark 1044 new_flows_len 0 old_flows_len 1 root(a)lorna-gw:~# uptime 12:45:35 up 54 days, 22:33, load average: 0.05, 0.05, 0.04 dscp classification in general, is only useful from within your own network, going outside. > which is a really nice way of measuring and visualizing packet loss and > variations in latency. I am using the default probe type which uses fping > (ICMP http://www.fping.org/ ). I LOVE smokeping and wish very much we had a way to combine it with mrtg data to see latency AND bandwidth at the same time. > > It has been working well, I set it up for a site in advance of setting up > SQM and then afterwards I can see the changes and determine if more tuning > is needed. But if ICMP is having it's priority adjusted (up or down), then > the results might not reflect the latency of other services. > > Fortunately the nice thing is that many other probe types exist > > http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/probe/index.en.html > > So which probe types would be good to use for bufferbloat measurement? I > guess the answer is "whatever is important to you", but I also suspect > there is a set of things that ISPs are known to mess with. > HTTP? But also maybe HTTPS in case they are doing some sort of transparent > proxy? > DNS? > SIP? > I suppose you could even do explicit checks for things like Netflix (but > then it's easy to go off on a tangent of building a net neutrality > observatory). > > On a somewhat related note, I was once using smokeping to measure a fiber > link to a bandwidth provider and had it configured to ping the router IP on > the other side of the link. In talking to one of their engineers, I learned > that they deprioritize ICMP when talking _with_ their routers, so my > measurement weren't valid. (I don't know if they deprioritize ICMP traffic > going _through_ their routers) I do strongly recomend deprioritizing ping slightly, and as I noted, I have seen many a borken script that actually prioritized it, which is foolish, at best. I keep hoping multiple (many!) someones here will go have lunch with their company's oft lonely, oft starving sysadmin(s), to ask them what they are doing as to firewalling, QoS and traffic shaping. Most of the ones I have talked are quite eager to show off their work, which is unfortunately often of wildly varying quality and complexity. I find that an offer of saki and sushi are most conducive to getting that conversation started. I certainly would like to see more default corporate firewall/QoS/shaping rules than I have personally, for various platforms. Someone's got to have some good ideas in them... and it would be nice to know how far the bad ones, have propagated. > -- > Matt Taggart > matt(a)lackof.org > > -- Dave Täht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb

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Job: NEXTDC - Product Manager of Networks (SYD.AU)
by Skeeve Stevens 03 Mar '15

03 Mar '15

Hi all, Passing this to the mailing list NEXTDC is looking for a Product Manager of Network Services - related to their recent announcement of Azure Express-Route and other related products. Ideally you would be working for an existing Telco and understand networking products well. Check out the advert below. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11825822/NEXTDC%20-%20Product%20Manager… Thanks all. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect* eintellego Networks Pty Ltd Email: skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.nz ; Web: eintellegonetworks.nz Phone: +612 8014 7398 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve Facebook: eintellegonetworks <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; Twitter: eintellego <https://twitter.com/eintellego> LinkedIn: /in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering

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IANA IPv4 Recovered Address Space registry updated
by Selina Harrington 02 Mar '15

02 Mar '15

Hi, ICANN has updated the IANA IPv4 Recovered Address Space registry according to the Global Policy for Post Exhaustion IPv4 Allocation Mechanisms by the IANA. The policy states that in each IPv4 allocation period, each RIR will receive a single IPv4 allocation unit from ICANN. An IPv4 allocation period is defined as a 6-month period following 1 March or 1 September in each year. The address space selection software can be downloaded from: https://github.com/icann/ The list of allocations can be found at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-recovered-address-space/ipv4-recovere… Regards, Selina Harrington ******************************************* Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: +1 310 301 5800 Fax: +1-310-823-8649 *******************************************

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Re: [nznog] "The GCSB?s brake on innovation"
by Beau Murrah 25 Feb '15

25 Feb '15

Thanks! Ill keep plodding away and get a draft to the list and yourself to attach. --- Me: nz.linkedin.com/in/bmmurrah Ph: +6427 375 7897 Email: bmurrah(a)icloud.com PGP: https://keybase.io/airbridge > On 26/02/2015, at 1:48 pm, Stephen Quayle <stephenwq(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey, > Bit of a nzlog list lurker, I'd just like to give some support for this idea you're proposing. > > Any further information about this act is greatly welcomed. > > I'm particularly curious on what might changes might typically be required to give notification of, and what might not. > We've already seem some implications for research based set ups, and possibly some hint of the difficulty of certifying open source instead of vendor supplied solutions. > > An area of interest was what this means for universities and where they might fall into it, as that's a bit different to your average business, or your average telco, yet i believe they could fall under broad ISP or carrier terms for general users. Often their networks and resources can be fairly public and they can have research arms that might struggle with the same issues as REANNZ. > > Just like to say thanks for anything you can provide in terms of knowledge and interpretation to the community, even if it just starts discussion. > > Cheers, > Stephen

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"The GCSB’s brake on innovation"
by Michael Fincham 24 Feb '15

24 Feb '15

<http://techliberty.org.nz/the-gcsbs-brake-on-innovation/> Excerpt: Trying to do the same in NZ, but govt's TICSA legislation makes deploying SDN/NFV in backbone networks challenging http://t.co/91MUpxfOnw — Steve Cotter (@SteveCotter) February 22, 2015 [...] So this is a statement by the CEO of a government owned company whose purpose is to "establish and operate the Advanced Network in order to promote education, research and innovation for the benefit of New Zealand" saying that they can't do the research and development work they need to do because the bureaucrats in the NCSC at the GCSB are holding them back. -- Michael

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APNIC Training Survey - We need your feedback!
by Elly Tawhai 22 Feb '15

22 Feb '15

Hi NZNOG Community, APNIC’s regional training program is designed to grow the skills of network operators to effectively deploy and manage network technology in the Asia Pacific. APNIC is currently assessing the training needs and requirements of the Asia Pacific Internet community to help plan and improve its training program so it can meet the community's future requirements. You can help us by taking part in the Training Survey below: https://www.apnic.net/trainingsurvey As an added incentive, anyone completing the survey before 7 March 2015 will be entered into a prize draw for an iPad Air 2. There will be a further draw for another iPad Air 2 after the survey closes on 20 March 2015, so early birds have two chances to win! All responses provided will remain confidential and will only be used by APNIC for the purposes of planning its training and technical assistance programs. Thank you for helping APNIC improve its training services. Kind regards, _______________________________________________________________________ APNIC Secretariat secretariat(a)apnic.net Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100 PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199 6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLD http://www.apnic.net _______________________________________________________________________

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openwrt on mikrotiks (rb750, rb951) with openvswitch
by Sam Russell 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

After getting carried away coding at the SDN workshop this week I've gone and flashed an RB750 with the latest openwrt (chaos calmer), and discovered that the package/dependency management lacks the finesse of something like debian/ubuntu: root(a)OpenWrt:~# opkg install openvswitch Installing openvswitch (2.3.1-0dfed4ba9c8a16a1f316d709b7831a4e139472d4) to root... Downloading http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/mikrotik/packages/packa…. Collected errors: * satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for openvswitch: * kmod-udptunnel4 * kmod-udptunnel6 * * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package openvswitch. digging deeper, it appears that kmod-udptunnel is built for ar71xx/nand (https://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/nand/packages/base/) but not for the mikrotik fork (https://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/mikrotik/packages/base/) questions: - has anyone got this running? im going to build kmod-udptunnel from source and then opkg install openvswitch, but was hoping i wouldn't have to - does anyone have a preference for ar71xx-mikrotik over ar71xx-nand? i know Dean has deployed ovs from source on older mikrotiks running attitude adjustment, who else is playing in this space? cheers sam

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Loading of IRD.govt.nz taking 30-50 seconds of late
by Barry Murphy 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

Morning all, Wondering if anyone else is noticing that the ird website is taking quite some time to load, has been happening since late last week or earlier this week judging from reports. Tested from our network and also on 4G from Spark, same issue. Looking at a debug of the page, we get a 301 after 25 seconds, then we get a 24 second delay for a 200 OK then things start loading a bit later out of a cache from the looks. If anyone that looks after the IRD infrastructure is on the list, feel free to reply offlist. Many thanks -- Kind regards, Barry Murphy / Chief Operating Officer

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increasing number of blacklisted NZ public IP addresses
by Daniel Christie 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

Hello all, I'm working for a small web/mail hosting company. I've recently noticed a lot of blacklisted IP addresses from NZ based ISPs being dished out, part of our intrusion prevention methods involve denying connections from these addresses. How do these blacklisted IP addresses get unlisted? Is it the responsibility of the customers of these ISPs or it is the responsibility of the ISP? Daniel Christie

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ATS Switch for 1-3 Devices
by Mark Foster 17 Feb '15

17 Feb '15

Hiya folks, Looking for a cost-effective solution to automatically switch a non-redundantly-powered device between redundant power supplies. For example running a single switch between a UPS-backed power supply and a direct-mains power supply, so that I have some tolerance should the mains supply to the UPS fail (or the UPS itself). Essentially something like this: http://www.cdlnz.com/index.html?do=viewproduct&p=NR605&code=RP-ATS But i'm looking for something relatively small and for a relatively low number of devices (say anywhere from 1 to 3). I'm also not necessarily looking for >10A 240V; the gear that'll be being run, is quite low current. Anyone got any recommendations? Thanks Mark.

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Job: Head of Network Operations - NEXTDC - Sydney Australia - 457 Available
by Skeeve Stevens 16 Feb '15

16 Feb '15

Hi all, On Seek.com.au <http://seek.com.au/> - http://www.seek.com.au/job/28150202?pos=1&type=standout I know a bit about this role, so feel free to chat to me offline if you are wondering if you are suitable.... or just apply directly :) I'm helping them find the right person... hardest thing is knowing who is out there and looking for a role like this. I will be in Japan at the Apricot/APNIC conference in a couple of weeks if you're there and you are interested in the role and would like to catch-up and chat about it. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.co.nz ; www.eintellegonetworks.co.nz Phone: +612 8014 7398; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering

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Re: [nznog] Can anyone help
by Glen Eustace 16 Feb '15

16 Feb '15

Our issue has been going on now for a couple of weeks now but has been getting slowly worse. I don’t believe the issue reported in the Herald about mobile is related (but who knows :-) > On 12/02/2015, at 7:39 am, Robert M <robert(a)kneedrag.org> wrote: > > Spark has been having issues, apprently they have been resolved this morning. > > Don't have the details off hand. > > Regards, > > Rob > > On 12/02/2015 7:09 AM, "Glen Eustace" <geustace(a)godzone.net.nz <mailto:geustace(a)godzone.net.nz>> wrote: > Hi, > > I am wearing my Massey Uni hat and we are struggling with an intermittent number (though its growing) of random SIP telephone call failures from the PSTN. I realise that this isn’t a telephony support line but with the proliferation of VoIP I am hoping some of the people on the list might be able to help. > > We are getting call failures to completely random Massey DDI’s, Spark have traced the calls and are confident they leave their network and Vodafone are doing the same and do not believe the calls enter theirs. The call’s terminate on a system which plays the following voice prompt twice and then ends the call. > > “Your alternative network call is unable to proceed at this time, please try again later”. > > The voice is a pleasant Kiwi (though I’m not a linguist so might not be) female. > > If anyone can put their hand up and say, "yes that’s one of ours" or anyone has heard or know where this recording might be coming from it might help. The calls are definitely going somewhere and if we, Massey/Spark/Vodafone can work out the where it might help pinpoint the how. > > I know this is a long shot but we are running out of ideas. > > Thanks > > Glen > > > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Glen and Rosanne Eustace, > GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., > P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 4446 > Ph: +64 6 357 8168 <tel:%2B64%206%20357%208168>, Fax: +64 6 357 8165 <tel:%2B64%206%20357%208165>, Mob: +64 27 542 4015 <tel:%2B64%2027%20542%204015> > > "Specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services since 1997" > > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz <mailto:NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog <http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog> >

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Bi-lateral peering sessions
by Tim Hoffman 15 Feb '15

15 Feb '15

Kind folk of New Zealand, A while ago, when I was at Citylink, we had some very interesting discussions on what the community believed the role of the route server infrastructure was in our exchanges. At the time, Citylink had announced that they were no longer going to require every operator to submit prefix lists to them for enforcement. In my opinion, Citylink moved to the correct way of acting; not providing a level of route filtering for the community, but instead putting it onto each ISP to enforce their own BGP security. It was interesting to me how much people had placed a reliance on the route servers and their enforcing a route policy on behalf of them, rather than taking responsibility for this themselves. I recall that in this discussion on the list Dean Pemberton, Michael Fincham, and Andy Linton made some excellent points about this. One of the interesting things about New Zealand and IXs is the lack of bi-lats or routing control used across the peering exchanges. In many IXs worldwide, the route servers are only considered to be the initial stage of setting up on an IX (if you used them at all). An ISP or content provider would reach out to all the peers that they did any level of traffic to and request a bi-lateral BGP session, which they would enforce their own route policies on, and filter routes in both directions on this session to appropriately manipulate traffic. In light of the issues this afternoon on APE, I wonder all of us putting some effort into bi-lats with our major peers is worthy of discussion? Also interesting is the attached graph of aggregate traffic on AKL-IX, showing the value of having multiple IXs in Auckland for resiliency. Cheers, Hoff [image: Inline image 2]

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Can anyone help
by Glen Eustace 10 Feb '15

10 Feb '15

Hi, I am wearing my Massey Uni hat and we are struggling with an intermittent number (though its growing) of random SIP telephone call failures from the PSTN. I realise that this isn’t a telephony support line but with the proliferation of VoIP I am hoping some of the people on the list might be able to help. We are getting call failures to completely random Massey DDI’s, Spark have traced the calls and are confident they leave their network and Vodafone are doing the same and do not believe the calls enter theirs. The call’s terminate on a system which plays the following voice prompt twice and then ends the call. “Your alternative network call is unable to proceed at this time, please try again later”. The voice is a pleasant Kiwi (though I’m not a linguist so might not be) female. If anyone can put their hand up and say, "yes that’s one of ours" or anyone has heard or know where this recording might be coming from it might help. The calls are definitely going somewhere and if we, Massey/Spark/Vodafone can work out the where it might help pinpoint the how. I know this is a long shot but we are running out of ideas. Thanks Glen -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Glen and Rosanne Eustace, GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd., P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 4446 Ph: +64 6 357 8168 <tel:%2B64%206%20357%208168>, Fax: +64 6 357 8165 <tel:%2B64%206%20357%208165>, Mob: +64 27 542 4015 <tel:%2B64%2027%20542%204015> "Specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet Services since 1997"

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nz Registrar
by Ryan Finnesey 10 Feb '15

10 Feb '15

For the members of the group that have gone though the authorisation as a .nz Registrar process I was wondering if you would be willing to share there exsperence on or offlist. Cheers Ryqn Sent using OWA for iPad

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Palmerston North Wireless - Frequency conflict
by Dave Mill 10 Feb '15

10 Feb '15

Hi all If anyone in Palmerston North (or nearby) has recently fired up a 40Mhz wide channel centered around 5640Mhz could you please get in contact. It's very likely we could save each other a lot of grief. Cheers Dave

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Help with Internet / Wireless connectivity near Whangamata
by Darren Moss 09 Feb '15

09 Feb '15

Evening All, I have a location which can see Whangamata, however there is no DSL service and I need to setup some repeater equipment at this location with decent connectivity to relay data. Is there anybody on-list (or someone you know, WISP, etc) who can help with a wireless link from (pretty much anywhere in) Whangamata back to this location about 15klms north ? We are elevated and can see Whangamata. Happy to setup WiFi type equipment, etc. Many thanks, Darren.

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Internetnz conference attendance funding round
by Dean Pemberton 09 Feb '15

09 Feb '15

Hi all This is to let you know that the conference attendance funding round that is currently open, will now stay open until Friday. InternetNZ provides support for attendance at conferences where that attendance will assist in the achieving of InternetNZ’s Objects and where it will grow the pool of expertise in particular areas in NZ. To find out more about the criteria and to apply, visit: https://internetnz.nz/conference-attendance-funding-round Thanks Dean -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential.

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Cloudflare IPv6 MTU
by Brian E Carpenter 08 Feb '15

08 Feb '15

Just a factoid: as far as I can see from Wiresharking, Cloudflare at APE is configured with an outbound IPv6 MTU of 1280. Not a complaint, just an observation. It's safer that way. Regards Brian Carpenter

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First weekend on APE
by Jesse Archer 08 Feb '15

08 Feb '15

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9W33Q4CEAAs5cY.png Not bad. Digging down and pretty much everyone (excluding AS4768) is on APE. Would like to see more local networks pop up on AKL-IX & Megaport IX Auckland. Don't forget to update your listing on http://peeringdb.com. A few of you show up on the looking glasses but your peeringdb listing is non-existent. If anyone who works for AS4768 is on this list, I'd love to stop sending traffic to you via international paths and improve the experience for your customers. *Jesse Archer* *General Manager*Full Flavour *p. *07 929 7111 *ddi*. 07 281 1391 *s*. Skype username "myfullflavour" *e*. jesse(a)fullflavour.co.nz <jesse(a)fullflavourmedia.co.nz> *w*. fullflavour.co.nz <http://www.fullflavourmedia.co.nz/> *a. *Tauranga Business Centre, 50 Devonport Road, Tauranga *a*. PO Box 16306, Bethlehem 3176, New Zealand

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The SDN Workshop - 18 & 19 February 2015 in Wellington
by Dean Pemberton 08 Feb '15

08 Feb '15

Given that the SDN tutorial at NZNOG was packed, I thought this might be of interest to people. There are a few seats left and on Friday it's being opened up to students. If you're interested then get in touch via the email below. ---------- http://ecs.victoria.ac.nz/Events/SDNWorkshop Future generation networking systems will require a paradigm shift in how they are networked, organised, configured, optimized, and recovered automatically based on their operating situation. With the emergence of Software Defined Networks (SDN), context awareness and dynamic adaptive services and application are gaining much attention since they allow automatic configuration of devices and their parameters, systems, services, and applications to user's context change. In addition, context awareness, with the help of software defined and cognitive systems, allows customisation of operating parameters of devices, users, applications, and networks based on the current context. This first workshop intends to introduce software defined networking concepts and practice for people new to the field. The workshop will also be a forum for practitioners from industry, academia and government to exchange ideas, present new results and provide future vision on these topics. The morning sessions will consist of talks, while the afternoon sessions will be more hands-on. To make the most of the afternoon sessions, you should have some basic programming experience (we will be using Python) and you need to bring a laptop. ________________________________ Date: 18th and 19th February 2015 Venue : Room 413, Railway building, Pipitea Campus, 1 Bunny Street, Wellington. Time: 9a.m - 5p.m (both days). Registration cost: NZD 50.00 per participant. Refreshments will be provided.

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Fwd: [Cerowrt-devel] OpenWrt conference survey
by Dave Taht 05 Feb '15

05 Feb '15

The prpl foundation is attempting to become an umbrella arm of the openwrt folk and reaching out for feedback. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Eric Schultz <eschultz(a)prplfoundation.org> Date: Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 8:41 AM Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] OpenWrt conference survey To: "cerowrt-devel(a)lists.bufferbloat.net" <cerowrt-devel(a)lists.bufferbloat.net> tl;dr: prpl is gauging interest in an OpenWrt conference via a short survey at http://bit.ly/1BWKWFP -- All, My name's Eric Schultz and I'm the Community Manager at prpl Foundation. I've created a survey to gauge the community's interest in prpl Foundation organizing an OpenWrt conference. Since CeroWrt is based on OpenWrt, I think folks in the CeroWrt community might also be interested in an OpenWrt conference. As background, prpl participates in the OpenWrt community through our members directly as well as our working group, prplwrt. Organizing an OpenWrt conference is one more way in which we can support and strengthen the OpenWrt community. We'd like to know if there's support in the community for a conference dedicated to OpenWrt. Topics at a conference could include: * How to develop your own flavor of OpenWrt (like CeroWrt) * Securing OpenWrt * Question and answer with the core OpenWrt team We're excited at the prospect of organizing a conference for the community. If you have any interest in an OpenWrt conference, please complete the survey at your earliest convenience. The survey is at http://bit.ly/1BWKWFP Thanks for your time and your commitment to CeroWrt. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me. Eric -- Eric Schultz, Community Manager, prpl Foundation http://www.prplfoundation.org eschultz(a)prplfoundation.org cell: 920-539-0404 skype: ericschultzwi @EricPrpl _______________________________________________ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrt-devel(a)lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel -- Dave Täht thttp://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Upcoming_Talks

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