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As Seen On Slashdot
by Joe Abley 06 Mar '00

06 Mar '00

If anybody else runs intel servers remotely, and thinks this is the best thing they have seen all year: http://www.realweasel.com/intro.html then drop me a line, and maybe we can send one big order over instead of all kinds of little bitty ones. They're doing pretty small fab runs at the moment, and the price per card is US$250 (which would be completely unreasonably out of the question if this wasn't such a good idea). If we can get a big order together maybe we can drag that price down a bit... Anyway. Let me know :) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Domainz -- Ringing Helpdesk Phones
by Joe Abley 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

Domainz have sent a letter to every nameholder under .NZ with details of the new Domainz/Glazier system; it appears that some have already arrived with nameholders this morning. Some definitely haven't (I haven't received anything yet). The letter advises nameholders to contact their ISP for more information. Operators may want to find out from Domainz exactly what nameholders have been told, so that they are able to field questions on the helpdesk. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Domainz -- Ringing Helpdesk Phones
by Rob Isaac 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

While we're on the subject... The letter below seems to consistently substitute commas ( , ) for apostrophes ( ' ). Is it just me, or is there some top secret Domainz, character mapping or MIME type I should be using to view this text? Can anyone confirm that the original letter is also formatted this way? Sorry to be pedantic, but when someone sends out a letter like this that has the potential to cause confusion among the herd, I like to make sure I know *exactly* what I'm dealing with. Regards, Rob. >3 March, 2000 > Our ref: >holder_name >holder_contact >holder_address1 >holder_address2 >holder_address3 >holder_city >holder_country >holder_postcode > >Dear .nz Domain Name Holder > >For Your Information - Changes to the .nz Register > >This letter is to advise you as a .nz Name Holder of the changes planned to >the Domain Registration System. > >According to our records you are the holder of the following domain name(s) >currently listed in the .nz Register: > > domain_name > >As part of the change process, we will create a Customer Record and link the >above domain(s) to your record. The latest contact information we have about >you was taken from your domain - domain_name - which we see was last >modified on date_updated. This contains the address information above, plus >your contact details below: > > holder_email > holder_phone > holder_fax > >If your contact details need updating, now is a good time and you may need >to talk to your ISP to help you do this. > >We will keep you informed of the process and once set up you will be emailed >the Customer ID and Password using the above email address. > >If youd like to keep in touch with progress more information can be found >on our website at the following address: > > http://www.domainz.net.nz/DRS_Changes.html > >Yours sincerely, > > >Patrick OBrien >Chief Executive --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Domainz -- Ringing Helpdesk Phones
by Rob Isaac 05 Mar '00

05 Mar '00

>> Regarding dealing to the responses from the letter, most enquiries that we >> are receiving indicate that the Name holder and address is OK, but the >> contact details (typically the representative and email address) are >> incorrect and have not been updated in the .nz Register. > >We are now being swamped with calls from people who have read the letter but >dont understand what it means. They are particularly concerned that DOMAINZ >are talking about a customer ID and password. > >We are advising customers to ring DOMAINZ for an explanation. > >regards > >Peter Mott Presumably, someone at Domainz just made a mistake by telling people to contact their ISPs about something that is really Domainz's doing. In the wider context of what they're doing, it would be easy for them to overlook the inconvenience and time-wasting that one little sentence will cause. Maybe they intended to inform ISPs, registrars and so on before they sent the letters, but simply forgot. Who did this, any idea? Who is the letter signed by? I still haven't seen a copy of it, but since it's being delivered on paper, it will probably take a while to filter through to anyone clueful. Regards, Rob. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZ MBONE
by James Tyson 28 Feb '00

28 Feb '00

David Robb from IHUG and I have been talking about setting up a local MBONEesque system across APE or WIX, I was just wanting a show of hands as to who would want it, and how people think it should be implemented. Cheers James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: (fwd) History of Internet in NZ
by Mark Davies 27 Feb '00

27 Feb '00

From: Don Stokes <don(a)daedalus.co.nz> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:49:43 +1300 > VUW router's change log says the Kawaihiko DDS links were added on > 14 Jun 90; the PC-router links running before that. This was before I > started there; Mark Davies or Michael Newbery may have more info. Jonathan, Andy and I put the PC-router links in in late '89. They were running SLIP over the the DSIR's terminal network (with Tony van der Peet, then at DSIR, making the required changes to their precursors of the ACE boxes to allow for permanent links). The initial link was between Waikato and here followed up by a similar link between here and Massey. We ran a slightly modified version of SLIP to deal with the non 8bit clean nature of the lines and they ran at the glorious speed of 4.8K. cheers mark --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: (fwd) History of Internet in NZ
by Michael Newbery 27 Feb '00

27 Feb '00

Mark Davies <mark(a)MCS.VUW.AC.NZ> wrote at 27/2/00 2:47 PM >Jonathan, Andy and I put the PC-router links in in late '89. They were >running SLIP over the the DSIR's terminal network (with Tony van der Peet, >then at DSIR, making the required changes to their precursors of the ACE boxes >to allow for permanent links). The initial link was between Waikato and here >followed up by a similar link between here and Massey. We ran a slightly >modified version of SLIP to deal with the non 8bit clean nature of the lines >and they ran at the glorious speed of 4.8K. And a SHARED 4.8k at that. The theory was that there was sufficient spare capacity on the DSIR network to accomodate the DISR internal traffic and the University use. This proved not to be the case :-) -- Michael Newbery Technology Manager Saturn Communications Tel: +64-4-939 5102 Mobile:021-642 957 Fax:+64-4-939 5100 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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ICANN Membership
by Chris Wedgwood 26 Feb '00

26 Feb '00

Most of you will know about this already, but those who do not, here as an opportunity to join ICANN at no cost: http://members.icann.org/ Please see the web page for more details. -cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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(fwd) History of Internet in NZ
by DPF 25 Feb '00

25 Feb '00

Off topic but this list seemed the most likely source of information to help me answer the query below. I think Jonathon Stone is now working for a US university. If anyone has any specific info on Jonathon or the old "backbone" that would be appreciated. Ta DPF >I am trying to track down >information about the role that a person called "Jonathon Stone" may >have played in the establishment of the Internet backbone in New >Zealand and wondered if you had ever heard of him. I believe he may >have been in the computer department of Victoria University at the >time but in quite what capacity I do not know. I would be grateful >for any information you might be able to let me have. > >In any case, when exactly was the NZ Internet backbone installed and >who was in charge of it anyway. I seem to recall it was a committee >and not just the one person. Is there a FAQ or URL which covers all >this? ________________________________________________________________________ <david at farrar dot com> NZ Usenet FAQs - http://www.dpf.ac.nz/usenet/nz ICQ 29964527 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: RE: More on DDOS Attacks
by Michael Newbery 24 Feb '00

24 Feb '00

Well, I've just gone to 12.0(8) on a 3620, up from 11.3, and that difference is most pleasent. 11.3 did not crash, but had some, um, infelicities. I'm quite happy with 12.0(8). Of course, if you want a stable release, well the following may amuse you (although it's not strictly IOS of couse, its a Catalyst 2926). Tardis> sh sys PS1-Status PS2-Status Fan-Status Temp-Alarm Sys-Status Uptime d,h:m:s Logout ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- -------------- --------- faulty ok ok off faulty 737,05:06:53 20 min -- Michael Newbery Technology Manager Saturn Communications Tel: +64-4-939 5102 Mobile:021-642 957 Fax:+64-4-939 5100 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Open IP Directed Broadcast List... (fwd)
by Alan Brown 24 Feb '00

24 Feb '00

Supplementary to http://www.netscan.org/ and http://www.powertech.no/smurf/ > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:48:10 -0500 > From: dies <dies(a)PULLTHEPLUG.COM> > To: BUGTRAQ(a)SECURITYFOCUS.COM > Subject: Open IP Directed Broadcast List... > > Well I guess I reinvented the wheel here. On that note. > > I've compiled a list of open ip directed broadcasts. I've scanned > down into 26 bit subnet's and found some interesting results. Over > 138,000 broken networks where found. A list of these networks is > currently available at http://www.pulltheplug.com. The reason I did this > was because netscan.org is only hitting 24 bit subnets and with the > recent "Internet Rush" for companies, CIDR, etc I felt it was time to look > deeper into the problem. I've been pulled away from this project as of > late (real job calls) and I have yet to walk the networks through > arin/ripe/apnic and obtain contacts. That will be my next step, > ETA - 2/28/00. After that I'd like to jump down to 27 and 28 bit > subnets. I'd be willing to get some help from anyone that is interested. > > Lastly, for the script kiddies out there. Please do not go and > grab this list and annihilate someone. Take the information and maybe > learn something from it, like just was subnetting is and how it works.. > > dies(a)pulltheplug.com --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: NZ MBONE
by Richard Naylor 24 Feb '00

24 Feb '00

At 12:28 PM 2/25/00 +1300, James Tyson wrote: > >David Robb from IHUG and I have been talking about setting up a local >MBONEesque system across APE or WIX, I was just wanting a show of hands as >to who would want it, and how people think it should be implemented. > cool ! at long last. Count me in as interested/keen, etc. I have the stuff running at home, but haven't had time to bring it into work yet. Do you want to stay with MBONE or use the H.323 stuff thats out there. My experience is that the H.323 stuff is faster and gives better results. I was planning to have an H.323 device in next week which will host a conference call, and have auto answer, and have a TV channel on it so that you can see the latency. Only problem is some copyright issues with the content so it might have to be a live camera from the office or a video tape on a loop. rich richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz This mail message contains information that is confidential and which may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and erase this mail. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[dangerously off-topic] Government to Regulate Routing!
by Joe Abley 22 Feb '00

22 Feb '00

** Quite Possibly of Negligable Operational Interest ** The Herald has an article about the Telecoms review being carried out (or to be carried out, give me a break, it's early): > The inquiry's brief is to examine interconnection issues, the Kiwi Share > obligation -which guarantees free local calling - number portability > and administration, management of internet traffic and the > development of New Zealand as a knowledge economy. "Management of internet traffic" was the phrase that caught my eye. If this review strays into the issues of routing, traffic filtering and peering at the packet layer, then I am scared. Mind you, this is probably the Herald quoting some government press release, so I wouldn't necessarily expect any the terms contained within it to be accurate. Anyway, just thought I'd share this. Please feel free to return to your usual network-wrangling activities. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Back to Non-Subscriber Postings
by Donald Neal 22 Feb '00

22 Feb '00

NZNOG-People, Yes, it seems restricting postings to subscribed addresses does create substantial inconvenience. I have now turned this off again. My thanks to all of the people who reminded me what a poor MUA I'm using. If I had any plans to do anything about this, I wouldn't be able to tell you about them. Donald Neal NZNOG Muggins --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: More on DDOS Attacks
by Donald Neal 22 Feb '00

22 Feb '00

At one stage we tried 12.0(5)T on 5 different boxes, all five failed with different faults ;-) 12.0(7)T1 is apparently the last in the 12.0T stream with 12.1 being its replacement (apparently within a couple of weeks). I think you should go to 12.0(7)T1 if you need T features. Arron Scott -----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of Andrew Cutler Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 08:43 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: More on DDOS Attacks I had a customer with a 2610 running 12.0(4) that had constant random "spurious memory access" errors. I advised him to upgrade to upgrade to 12.0(5) but haven't heard back. Cheers, Andrew Donald Neal wrote: Subject: BOUNCE nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz: Non-member submission from [David Zanetti <dave2(a)earthling.net>] Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:43:41 +1300 From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >From d1nc(a)telecom.co.nz Tue Feb 22 19:43:40 2000 Received: from wakko.burlap.net.nz (p267.tnt1.dialup.the.net.nz [203.110.6.13]) by johnwayne.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA14625 for <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:43:33 +1300 Received: from localhost (dave2(a)localhost) by wakko.burlap.net.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA08222 for <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:43:31 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: wakko.burlap.net.nz: dave2 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:43:30 +1300 (NZDT) From: David Zanetti <dave2(a)earthling.net> X-Sender: dave2(a)wakko.burlap.net.nz To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: More on DDOS attacks In-Reply-To: <20000222133907.A5270(a)styx.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10002221936550.8170-100000(a)wakko.burlap.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Chris Wedgwood wrote: > > I've been meaning to have another try with a newer version of 12 > > (especially as 12 has gone GD) so your experience is only going to > > encourage me, can I ask what version of IOS and on what platform you lab > > setup was using? [clip] > That's not to say it is very stable, the last I tried 12.0.7(S) > was pretty horrible. I have '9 down but not tested yet. Speaking of the stablity of different IOS versions, we have a 3640 with 12.0(4)T on it that needs rebooting after about 7 weeks of uptime. Starts spamming the console port with memory allocation failures, although still manages to route stuff. It's not a particullarly odd setup, just routing between a couple of FE ports, but we are using dynamic packet filtering on it, ala "permit ... reflect outbound". Ring any bells for anyone? Couldn't see anything that jumped out at me in the later release notes, and wasn't keen on an upgrade just to "try it out".. -- David Zanetti <dave2(a)earthling.net> | (__) Mr Moo says: Moderator, nz.politics.announce | ( oo #include <geek/unix.h> | /L_= ... ( Eat more porridge ) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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by None 22 Feb '00

22 Feb '00

[203.97.2.226]) by johnwayne.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id = KAA06207 for <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:44:28 +1300 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (admin4-admd-skyt.qsi.net.nz [202.89.128.132] = (may be forged)) by tardis.patho.gen.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20340; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:44:25 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <200002222144.KAA20340(a)tardis.patho.gen.nz> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295)=20 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:37:18 +1300 Subject: 12 good reasons to choose webmail.net.nz [WAS: Media announcement on free webmail] From: "Rob Isaac" <rob(a)terabyte.co.nz> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz CC: Joe Abley <jabley(a)patho.gen.nz> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 01:40:35PM -1100, reply(a)webmail.net.nz wrote: >> Show Off New Zealand announces the launch of its free web-based Email >> service Webmail.net.nz in conjunction with American Email giant = Commtouch. > >These guys win today's prize for the least clue displayed in a public >forum. I have tried to think of a more moronic way for them to advertise >their product, and I have failed. > >Congratulations! Twelve good reasons to choose webmail.net.nz as *your* web email provider = -- a list of twelve publicly known exploits against Microsoft IIS, version = 3.0, currently being run by 'webmail.net.nz': Bugtraq ID: 978 2000-02-09 NT IIS ASP VBScript Runtime Error Viewable Source Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 968 2000-02-02 NT IIS idq.dll Directory Traversal Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 592 1999-07-20 Persits AspUpload Buffer Overflow Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 529 1999-07-19 NT IIS MDAC RDS Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 591 1999-07-07 NT IIS SSL DoS Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 477 1999-06-24 NT IIS Double Byte Code Page Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 501 1999-03-08 NT IIS ISAPI Extension Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 230 1999-02-11 NT Using ASP And FSO To Read Server Files Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 194 1999-01-26 NT IIS IISAPI Extension Enumerate Root Web Server Directory Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 192 1999-01-24 NT IIS FTP DoS / Buffer Overflow Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 149 1998-07-01 NT IIS ASP Alternate Data Streams Vulnerability Bugtraq ID: 676 1998-06-26 Multiple Vendor PKCS#1 Vulnerability They're currently vulnerable to 978, 968, 591, 477, 501, 230, 194, 192 and = 149. I can't confirm the others, mainly because their server seems to = lack the needed third party software that makes the exploit possible. Be sure to recommend them to all your friends, just because of their = innovative marketing strategies. By 'your friends', I mean bored fifteen = year olds with ADSL, cable modems or wheel on lots of well connected = machines. *cough* We now return you to your normal, spam-free programming. Regards, Rob. =20 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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12 good reasons to choose webmail.net.nz [WAS: Media announcement]
by Donald Neal 22 Feb '00

22 Feb '00

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Re: More on DDOS Attacks
by Donald Neal 21 Feb '00

21 Feb '00

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[bb@nsimail.com: Regarding Webmail]
by Joe Abley 21 Feb '00

21 Feb '00

In case anybody is still in any doubt as to the sensitivity of these webmail.net.nz people to the issue of spam, see attached message. Apparently it is ok for webmail.net.nz to send commercial, unsolicited mail because it is "useful information", as opposed to other unsolicited, commercial e-mail which is apparently not. Ho hum. File under "moron spam haven" and take appropriate precautions. Joe ----- Forwarded message from bb(a)nsimail.com ----- From: bb(a)nsimail.com Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:50:40 -0800 X-Sent: 22 Feb 2000 04:50:40 GMT To: jabley(a)patho.gen.nz X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.5.1.4 Subject: Regarding Webmail Hi Joe, We have had great feedback and alot of people have joined our service from the general public. We have been offering this state of the art free service to anyone who wishes to use it, and have been astounded by some harsh responses from people who themselves work in the industry. We have offered leading edge technology in NEW ZEALAND for new zealanders and cannot understand some of the hostile responses we have had, almost all from IT proffesionals, when we have had such a great response from the general public. Because of the pressure put on us by a few in the industry we will not be emailing anybody else but feel that the issue of spamming is such a grey area that useful information is being put in the same circle as email suggesting you buy a ticket to africa at your local travel branch in Vancouver. I am sorry if i have caused undue stress by emailing you, but it was only our intention to inform nz'ers of this superior technology that is free for them to operate as they please. Kindest Regards Billy. ------------------------------------------------- Get personalized e-mail and a web address or your own free e-mail at http://www.networksolutions.com. ----- End forwarded message ----- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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by None 21 Feb '00

21 Feb '00

13]) by johnwayne.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id = TAA14625 for <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:43:33 +1300 Received: from localhost (dave2(a)localhost) by wakko.burlap.net.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id TAA08222 for <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:43:31 +1300 X-Authentication-Warning: wakko.burlap.net.nz: dave2 owned process doing = -bs Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:43:30 +1300 (NZDT) From: David Zanetti <dave2(a)earthling.net> X-Sender: dave2(a)wakko.burlap.net.nz To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: More on DDOS attacks In-Reply-To: <20000222133907.A5270(a)styx.clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10002221936550.8170-100000(a)wakko.burlap.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Chris Wedgwood wrote: > > I've been meaning to have another try with a newer version of 12 > > (especially as 12 has gone GD) so your experience is only going to > > encourage me, can I ask what version of IOS and on what platform you = lab > > setup was using?=20 [clip]=20 > That's not to say it is very stable, the last I tried 12.0.7(S) > was pretty horrible. I have '9 down but not tested yet. Speaking of the stablity of different IOS versions, we have a 3640 with 12.0(4)T on it that needs rebooting after about 7 weeks of uptime. Starts spamming the console port with memory allocation failures, although still manages to route stuff. It's not a particullarly odd setup, just routing between a couple of FE ports, but we are using dynamic packet filtering on it, ala "permit ... reflect outbound".=20 Ring any bells for anyone? Couldn't see anything that jumped out at me in the later release notes, and wasn't keen on an upgrade just to "try it out"..=20 --=20 David Zanetti <dave2(a)earthling.net> | (__) Mr Moo says: Moderator, nz.politics.announce | ( oo #include <geek/unix.h> | /L_=3D ... ( Eat more porridge ) =20 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Media announcement on free webmail. -Reply
by Geoff Thompson 21 Feb '00

21 Feb '00

Keith Davidson wrote: > > > They've presumably been trawling the list archive web pages. I've changed > the list config only to accept postings from subscribers. (Two years without > having had to do that surprises me.) I'll wait and see whether that creates > any problems. > > > > Donald Neal > > Donald, > > Certainly not a trawl of the list archive. I only subscribed to this list > this morning. > > My first message - spam! :-( > > Keith Davidson Guys (and Gals), To add my two penith worth... Both myself and Andrew Donkin here at Waikato have been hit. I was contemplating the fact that they may have just crawled over 'waikato.ac.nz', but then there have been a quite a few people down my corridor that haven't been hit. I'm not sure what source (or part of source) that they've used, but it looks like I'm tending towards it being only the list server, rather than our whole site. Our headers were : From: reply(a)webmail.net.nz Received: from shiraz.x.co.nz (210-55-40-205.adsl.xtra.co.nz [210.55.40.205]) by mailserv.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA13378 for <geofft(a)waikato.ac.nz>; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:08:27 +1300 Received: from www.webmail.net.nz ([192.168.0.106]) by shiraz.x.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA27843 for <geofft(a)waikato.ac.nz>; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:27:41 +1300 if that helps track down the culprit. The domain 'webmail.co.nz' is owned by 'Andrew Prast <andrew(a)prast.net>', and seems to be registered via ICONZ (using their nameservers). As for 'x.co.nz', we are also talking ownership by Andrew Prast, but this time with the email address of 'andrew(a)nz.com'. This domain seems to be registered via WebNZ Ltd. And yet there's an Xtra ADSL dialup connection in the mix. Does this gel with the messages that you received? Geoff. ---------------------------------- Geoff Thompson <geofft(a)waikato.ac.nz> University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Ph: (07) 838 4748 Random Quote of the Minute : And now for something completely the same. ---------------------------------- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Media announcement on free webmail. -Reply
by Donald Neal 21 Feb '00

21 Feb '00

>>> "Chris Wedgwood" <chris.wedgwood(a)clear.co.nz> 22/February/2000 01:49pm >>> > These guys win today's prize for the least clue displayed in a public > forum. I have tried to think of a more moronic way for them to advertise > their product, and I have failed. They've presumably been trawling the list archive web pages. I've changed the list config only to accept postings from subscribers. (Two years without having had to do that surprises me.) I'll wait and see whether that creates any problems. Donald Neal List Muggins --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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More on DDOS attacks
by Arron Scott 21 Feb '00

21 Feb '00

>From Cisco, for any one who hasn't seen it already. Title: Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) News Flash URL: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/newsflash.html Posted: February 9, 2000 Summary: This Security Advisory talks about Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS). More specificvally, it will help you: 1) Recognize programs used to facilitate DDoS attacks 2) Apply measures to prevent the attacks 3) Gather forensic information if you suspect an attack 4) Learn more about host security I have recently had the opportunity to try the "ip verify unicast reverse-path" command in a lab environment, it works with CEF on Cisco IOS 12.0. It seems relatively effective with about a 30% increase in distributed CPU utilisation (ie. 10% becomes 13%, not 40%). We had every packet flooding an interface with bogus source addresses, it happily discarded them all. And yes, it even forwarded the packets with valid source addresses ;-) It seems best suited to run at the edge of the network in from your downstream customers. There is no point running it on links in from upstream providers in most cases. We also lab tested Turbo Access-Lists, and found them very effective on long access-lists, the worst case the CPU increased loading on a VIP by about 40%, as opposed to a 200 entry non-Turbo Access-list which increased distributed CPU utilisation by as much as 95%. Arron Scott Telecom NZ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Media announcement on free webmail.
by reply＠webmail.net.nz 21 Feb '00

21 Feb '00

Show Off New Zealand announces the launch of its free web-based Email service Webmail.net.nz in conjunction with American Email giant Commtouch. Webmail.net.nz introduces leading edge Email technology that is user friendly, feature rich and fun to use. Moreover, Webmail allows you to access all of your Email, (including old fashioned pop Email), from any web browser in the world. Web-based Email with its easy graphics interface is rapidly overtaking FAX for instant business communication. Find out why for yourself. We cordially invite you to secure your business name, private name, or alias , while there is still good name availability. To check out the service click here http://www.webmail.net.nz Best wishes Billy Brown --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Large Scale Internet Attacks - Technical article.
by Roger De Salis 20 Feb '00

20 Feb '00

Gentlefolk (are there any women on this list????) I thought this sufficiently interesting to post to the NOG, so that it may help anyone who is considering how to avoid these attacks in the future. I have removed all the sales guff (I hope). I hope this is of use. ==================================================================== At one account they were all Cisco. They were blown up by a massive amount of spoofed SYN flood attacks. The PIX did stop the SYN floods it did see, however most of traffic never reached the PIX because the egress router had a of overflow of traffic. I have personal experience with the account. We had recommended they put anti-spoofing filters and CAR filtering for ICMP on the egress routers. They told us they would not put any filters on the routers because they did not want to lose any performance. The attacks were designed to take advantage of a specific flaw in the network design of the target. This discovered by using an automated tool that tries literality hundreds of different exploits till it finds a successful avenue of attack. Since the hackers tools try over hundred types of exploits, it is possible that if the customer had implemented the egress filtering that we had recommend than the hackers would have been able to crash them with some other attack. However, a continual theme is that there are a large number of sites on the Internet, and the well defended sites tend to get ignored by this type of attack. Since these criminals don't tend to be very clever, in fact they seem downright lazy, they only go after sites that can be assaulted with off the shelf tools. In the case of one web portal, the attack was a BSD UNIX specific attack that rides on port 80 like any other HTTP traffic. It went thought the Cisco router and a Checkpoint firewall, just like it is supposed to do. Had the network administrator patched their Web servers with against this known type of attack, then the exploit would have done not worked at all. In one of the e commerce sites, they were blown up by a Smurf attack. However, the attack was against the upstream ISP, not the e commerce site itself. Had the target insisted the ISP put the "no ip directed broadcast" command on the outgoing line from the ISP to the target, then the Smurf would have not worked. ======================================================================== -- \_ Roger De Salis Cisco Systems NZ Ltd </' +64 25 481 452 L3, 117 Customhouse Qy /) +64 4 473 4912 Wellington, New Zealand (/ roger(a)desalis.gen.nz rdesalis(a)cisco.com ` --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Large Scale Internet Attacks - Technical article.
by Dennis Su 14 Feb '00

14 Feb '00

Oops, I simply assumed that most of people here own a C or B with a subnet mask 24 bit. So the filter should really take the way you do subnetting into account. Regards, Dennis > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Wedgwood [mailto:chris.wedgwood(a)clear.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 1:51 PM > To: Dennis Su > Cc: 'Roger De Salis'; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: Large Scale Internet Attacks - Technical article. > > > > Alternatively, a packet filter on boundary router blocking any > > IP packet destined to *.0 or *.255 would do the trink but you > > still need "no ip directed-broadcast" to deal with the > > directed broadcast originating from your internal network. > > That can and will break access to hosts that are on /n networks > where n!=0 mod 8, for example, 10.0.100.0 and 10.0.0.255 are > perfectly valid host addresses in 10.0.0.0/8. > > > > -cw > > P.S. Alas, ot make matters worse, for machines (for example Suns > boxes) still repond to *.255 pings even when they are on a > (say) /21 network and shouldn't... > > -- > Chris Wedgwood chris.wedgwood(a)clear.co.nz > --------- > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Large Scale Internet Attacks - Technical article.
by Dennis Su 14 Feb '00

14 Feb '00

Hi, > In one of the e commerce sites, they were blown up by a Smurf attack. > However, the attack was against the upstream ISP, not the e commerce > site > itself. Had the target insisted the ISP put the "no ip directed > broadcast" > command on the outgoing line from the ISP to the target, then > the Smurf > would have not worked. Just a little opinion of mine. "no ip directed-broadcast" only deals with the directed broadcast to the interface where the command is specified. It does nothing to the transit directed broadcast. To prevent from SMURF attack you have to code this command on each Cisco router interfaces in your network. Alternatively, a packet filter on boundary router blocking any IP packet destined to *.0 or *.255 would do the trink but you still need "no ip directed-broadcast" to deal with the directed broadcast originating from your internal network. Dennis Su ITS, University of Waikato --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Cache testing
by Joe Abley 13 Feb '00

13 Feb '00

Hi all, I'm doing a little bit of cache testing, and I'm looking for a nice, realistic-looking list of objects to fetch from the web; I'm going to use it as a test set to compare different boxes. Anybody care to share a log from a busy-hour cache that's used for residential internet access? All I'm after is a list of URLs to fetch (hits _and_ misses) so anonymised logs are fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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CLEAR-ly incompetent
by Brent McDowell 13 Feb '00

13 Feb '00

I wonder why Clear's level of service has diminished greatly over the last two months? Could we talk about Frame Relay? How about the nearly three months it took to upgrade the bandwidth? What about the 14 hours (so far) that one of our PVC's have been down? (Not to mention our 0508 lines, and all). Makes you curious, doesn't it? -- regards, Brent McDowell Network Operations Manager Globe.Net Communications Ltd --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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CLEAR - Service and Account management
by Mark Munns 13 Feb '00

13 Feb '00

Dear all GlobeNet have required major new upgrades recently and there has been an outage on Friday night. SLA issues are being progressed by myself. CLEAR account managers are contactable in business hours and ISP services are managed from the carrier wholesale group. My contact details are attached. Regards Mark Munns Account Manager - Carrier Wholesale Ph 09-912-4370 Fax 09-912-4455 Email mmunns(a)clear.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: CLEAR-ly incompetent
by Sam Sargeant 12 Feb '00

12 Feb '00

> I would be really disappointed if people made business decisions > based upon comments made by individuals on this list, of that were > the case, Domainz would really be in trouble. Exactly! People would then take their business to the other .nz registry.. Oh wait.. :) ##----Sam-Sargeant---------NetLink-Ltd--------Systems-Developer----## until($x>=40){print$"x$x;for('#4V%M','+(%-A<F=E86YT("T`','%($IU<W0`', '(($%N;W1H97(`','.(%!E<FP(a)2&%C:V5R(0H`'){print unpack('u*',$_)}$x+=2} ##.................................................................## --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Test in frustration, please ignore
by Geoff Thompson 09 Feb '00

09 Feb '00

Testing testing 1 2 3. Yada, yada, please ignore, yada. Geoff. ---------------------------------- Geoff Thompson <geofft(a)waikato.ac.nz> University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Ph: (07) 838 4748 Random Quote of the Minute : And now for something completely the same. ---------------------------------- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Test 2 -- no need to reply
by Patrick O' Brien 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

My regards, PATRICK J O'BRIEN Fax: (04) 473-4569 Voice: (04) 473-4567 Mail: P.O.BRIEN(a)DOMAINZ.NET.NZ Web: http://www.DOMAINZ.NET.NZ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: Returned mail: see transcript for details
by Peter Mott 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

Looks like Actrix has terminated DOMAINZ, registry processing et al :-) > If you require further assistance, and you are an Actrix customer, please > email support(a)actrix.co.nz, or call +64 4 801 5225. Otherwise, please > contact your local administrator or service provider. > > The reason the message was not able to be delivered is given below: > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > <p.o.brien(a)domainz.net.nz> > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 554 5.0.0 MX list for domainz.net.nz. points back to satva.actrix.co.nz > 554 5.3.5 <p.o.brien(a)domainz.net.nz>... Local configuration error ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <4e-mail.channel(a)domainz.net.nz> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 5.0.0 MX list for domainz.net.nz. points back to satva.actrix.co.nz 554 5.3.5 <4e-mail.channel(a)domainz.net.nz>... Local configuration error regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: FW: Returned mail: see transcript for details
by John Vorstermans 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

At 15:15 9/02/00 +1300, you wrote: >Looks like Actrix has terminated DOMAINZ, registry processing et al :-) Yes. Sadly a processing error corrupted one of our mail filters. As soon as it was brought to our attention it was repaired and the process has been corrected. I apologies to anyone who was effected. John -- John Vorstermans || In the confrontation between the stream and the Technical Manager || rock, The stream always wins - not through Actrix Networks || strength but through perseverance. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Testing -- do not reply
by Patrick O'Brien 08 Feb '00

08 Feb '00

My regards, PATRICK J O'BRIEN Fax: (04) 473-4569 Voice: (04) 473-4567 Mail: P.O.BRIEN(a)DOMAINZ.NET.NZ Web: http://www.DOMAINZ.NET.NZ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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sunsite.net.nz
by Chris Wedgwood 06 Feb '00

06 Feb '00

Can anyone tell me what has happened to sunsite.net.nz? It's been unreachable for several weeks now. As I use the gnu mirror there, I have in the meantime put one up at ftp://ftp.clear.net.nz/mirrors/ftp.gnu.org/ -- it will probably take several hours before it is in sync with the master. -cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[m.arnott@domainz.net.nz: [NewZ-Flash] Pending changes to Domainz systems - Registrar Workshops]
by Joe Abley 02 Feb '00

02 Feb '00

FYI (heard through D0m(a)1nZ's announcement list, formatted as received) Just out of interest, for how many operators on this list will this briefing be the first notification you have had of the proposed changes? Happy to summarise replies by private e-mail back to the list if there is interest. ----- Forwarded message from Maria Arnott <m.arnott(a)domainz.net.nz> ----- X-Authentication-Warning: titan.actrix.gen.nz: majordomo set sender to owner-newz-flash(a)list.actrix.gen.nz using -f From: Maria Arnott <m.arnott(a)domainz.net.nz> To: "'newz-flash(a)domainz.net.nz'" <newz-flash(a)domainz.net.nz> Subject: [NewZ-Flash] Pending changes to Domainz systems - Registrar Workshops Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:16:52 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Precedence: bulk Dear list members, You are probably aware of changes that are in the air for Domainz. Domainz has now confirmed dates and venues to brief Registrars on pending changes to Domainz' systems. Domainz is targeting Internet Service Providers and Webdesigners to enable them to understand and plan for changes to their systems when they interface with the new Domainz registration system. The workshops will provide a briefing session giving an overview of the Systems Redevelopment including an application walk-through and familiarity session. Of particular importance to ISP's and Webdesigners will be how the changes may impact their systems for submission of requests to Domainz' registration service. The workshop will be useful to help you plan the steps you need to take in order to make it a smooth transition. Please e-mail m.arnott(a)domainz.net.nz indicating the names of those in your organisation that are interested in attending. Also, in order for confirmation of the venue, can you send your responses by Wednesday 9, February. The workshops will commence from 9.00 a.m. to 1.00 p.m. with a light lunch and refreshments to follow. Those of you from overseas that have registered interest in keeping abreast of Domainz' changes - we will be rolling out some further information to you next week. Dates/Venues as follows: Auckland Session 1: Monday 14 Feb Session 2: Tuesday 15 Feb Sky City, Ponui Room 93 Wellesley Street (Those of you who are travelling by vehicle to the venue, you can park in the hotel carpark obtain a parking ticket and I will give you a ticket to check out of the carpark at the end of the session). Hamilton Wednesday 16th Feb Novotel 7 Alma Street Rotorua Thursday 17th Feb Lake Plaza - Summit Room 6 Eruera Street Taupo Friday 18th Feb Lane Cove Hotel 213 Lake Terrace Palmerston North Monday 21st Feb Quality Hotel 110 Fitzherbert Avenue Wellington Tuesday 22nd Feb West Plaza Hotel 110-116 Wakefield Street Christchurch Wednesday 23rd Feb Centra Christchurch Cnr Cashel & High Streets Dunedin Thursday 24th Feb Southern Cross Hotel Cnr Princes and High Streets Invercargill Friday 25th Feb Kelvin Hotel 16 Kelvin Street I look forward to receiving your responses. My Regards, Maria Arnott Voice: 04 473 4567 Fax: 04 473 4569 email: m.arnott(a)domainz.net.nz web: www.domainz.net.nz . - To unsubscribe to the newz-flash mailing list send a message to majordomo(a)domainz.net.nz with the keyword unsubscribe as the message plus the mailing list name. i.e.unsubscribe newz-flash ----- End forwarded message ----- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: Delivery failure (4e-mail.channel@domainz.net.nz)
by 2Day Operations 02 Feb '00

02 Feb '00

> Your message has encountered delivery problems > to the following recipient(s): > 4e-mail.channel(a)domainz.net.nz > Delivery failed > 550 5.7.1 <4e-mail.channel(a)domainz.net.nz>... Relaying denied > No recipients were successfully delivered to. Todays DOMAINZ joke :-) regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[pindar@hk.super.net: [apops] Your Participation in APRICOT2000]
by Joe Abley 01 Feb '00

01 Feb '00

----- Forwarded message from Pindar Wong <pindar(a)hk.super.net> ----- Reply-To: "Pindar Wong" <pindar(a)hk.super.net> From: "Pindar Wong" <pindar(a)hk.super.net> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:@imsp074.netvigator.com;> Subject: [apops] Your Participation in APRICOT2000 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:04:45 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Precedence: bulk Greetings! * Registration now open for APRICOT 2000 (Seoul February 28-March 2) * Packed Programme with over 140 distinguished instructors, speakers and fellows from 30+ Countries * Register now and save over 70% (US$ 250 for two days of tutorials and two days of conferences) * Space is limited -- please register as early as possible to avoid disappointment. * See http://www.apricot2000.ne.kr for the latest details * Please circulate to those who need to know * Management Background Briefing Included Below (Cut and Paste) The Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies (APRICOT) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Since 1996, APRICOT has provided a unique and successful educational forum for Internet builders in the region to learn from their peers and other leaders in the Internet community from around the world. The key benefit in attending APRICOT is to synchronize local and regional activities with the rapid developments in the wider Internet in an objective manner that distinguishes between operational realities and marketing 'hype' APRICOT's success is largely due to the excellence of its no-nonsense programme that is focused on Internet operational issues (i.e. issues surrounding the smooth day-to-day operation of Internet-based networks and services). Distinguished speakers and instructors from around the world are kindly denoting their time and expertise to help develop the skills and understanding necessary to grow a robust Internet infrastructure in the Asia Pacific. The intense week-long summit consists of seminars, workshops, clinics, tutorials, conference sessions and birds-of-a-feather (BOFs) meetings that have the following two goals :- 1) spreading and sharing the knowledge required for the operational stability and development of the Internet within the Asia Pacific region. 2) developing affinity groups that foster mutual support throughout the year. APRICOT targets those individuals that directly impact the operational deployment and stability of Internet protocol (IP)-based networks and services. These are namely network operators and engineers, senior executives and regulators. One of the fundamental principles of APRICOT presentations has been its vendor neutral objectiveness that provides for informed opinion. As such, APRICOT is not a marketing or sales-orientated conference and it is known that it highly discourages blatant sales or promotional activities within the conference itself. In essence, APRICOT creates a neutral educational forum that provides for frank discussions on the skills, policies and technologies that are critical for the smooth operation of the Internet's network and service infrastructure both regionally and internationally. APRICOT has a one-year technology horizon. This means to say that APRICOT is involved with those technologies that are either at the heart of today's Internet or those that are very likely to see operational deployment within the next 12 months (e.g. DNSsec). As APRICOT is only organised once a year, special attention is given to the creation of affinity groups that foster mutual support throughout the year. During the year, these affinity groups play a key role as a source of knowledge and experience. This year, APRICOT is jointly organised by:- The Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute Korea Network Information Center The National Computerization Agency Korea Information Society Development Institute The Open Systems Infrastructure Association The Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology APRICOT is only made possible through the generous contribution of time, talent, money and resources from our distinguished list of sponsors ... all of whom are committed to the continued stable growth of the Internet in our region :- AboveNet APIA APNIC Cable & Wireless HKT Cisco Systems Concert DACOM DreamLine Hanaro Telecom Hanson M Com Hitel IBM IDNS Juniper KDC Korea Telecom Level 3 Lucent Technologies Netpia Nortel Networks Onse Telecom Portal Software PSINet Qwest Teleglobe Unisphere Solutions Unitech We are expecting over 600 engineers and senior management to attend APRICOT this year. Therefore please make arrangements for you and your staff to register as early as possible to avoid disappointment. See you all in Seoul! Yours sincerely, Pindar Wong Chairman APRICOT2000 Executive Committee * APOPS: Asia Pacific Operations Forum * * To unsubscribe: send "unsubscribe" to apops-request(a)apnic.net * ----- End forwarded message ----- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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w95.fix2001 worm infection os doing the rounds...
by Chris Wedgwood 26 Jan '00

26 Jan '00

I couldn't really think of a better place to send this... A couple of days ago we noticed some of our customers seem to have been infected by the w95.fix2001 worm. In brief, this is a small windows executable that infects '95 and '98 machines when run (yes, some people do run executables without checking...). It watches for outgoing email and send copies of itself to the addresses it sees there from <admin__(a)local.domain> with a message-id of <Fix2001(a)microsoft.com>; under some circumstances it will replace command.com with malicious code that will toast the hard-disk when next booted. Note, this is not a new worm, most anti-virus vendors should have been able to detect this since mid-September 1999, but obviously, not everyone runs AV software. For more details, please see: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w95.fix2001.html Now, as I mentioned, it has been doing the rounds -- grep you maillogs for (or the message ID) admin__ and you should see it if it has come you way, certainly before we put a `block' in (see below) I saw a number of incoming messages to our customers and several outgoing to people at other NZ ISPs. Blocking this is pretty easy if you assume nobody actually uses admin__(a)some.domain as an email address, below is what our sendmail guru Olof <oolsson(a)clear.co.nz> did here to block it, which is working very well -- I hope this is of some use to someone. ###################################################################### # CLEAR Net CHECK_MAIL rule set ###################################################################### Scheck_mail # Canonify R$* $: $>3 $1 # Temporary fix to stop w95.fix2001 (remove this one at some stage) R admin__ <@ $* > $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "Mail refused due to worm infection; refer to http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w95.fix2001.html" -cw -- Chris Wedgwood chris.wedgwood(a)clear.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[announcement] NZ-REGISTRARS project
by Joe Abley 25 Jan '00

25 Jan '00

Warning: of only tangential operational significance http://www.patho.gen.nz/nz-registrars/ I am trying to coordinate some open discussion about an automated interface between registrar and registry, such as might be used by an ISP or web hosting company to manage new domain registration and domain deletion, and to manage modifications of the register. There are many different ways of doing this with gTLD and ccTLD registries at the moment, and no agreed standard approach. This project is an attempt to allow interested parties to build a specification for an interface that will meet their specific needs. This project is not endorsed by ISOCNZ or Domainz, although it is to be hoped that if we can reach good agreement within the industry about what our requirements are, ISOCNZ might listen. The NZ-REGISTRARS mailing list is a technical forum; the idea is to avoid politics and grandstanding as far as possible. The intent is to produce a comprehensive design, and stable, flexible running code, nothing more. A rapid summary of the potential features of the interface under discussion: + a strict XML representation for all transactions between registry and registrar + a choice of transport for exchanging transaction elements (e.g. e-mail, CORBA, DCOM, HTTP, whois) + batch and real-time transaction support + full version history/modification log for all records + strong authentication + compatability shims to allow transactions and query results to be accepted and presented in foreign formats, e.g. RIPE-181, NSI whois, NSI e-mail templates, Domainz whois, Domainz web-based query, Domainz e-mail channel template All are welcome. Details of the little bit of work done so far can be found at http://www.patho.gen.nz/nz-registrars/ Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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.nz registry lame delegations
by 2Day Operations 17 Jan '00

17 Jan '00

Does anybody have any ideas on how to stop the .nz registry delegating names to ones name servers when they are not authoratative nor permission obtained for their use? This happens when they "reinstate" a domain after it has been suspended, usually for non payment of registration fees. I've tried asking them privately, but they dont seem to understand. It was not so much of an issue when it only happened once or twice a month, but it is far more regular now. regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RFC2142 support at Domainz
by Joe Abley 16 Jan '00

16 Jan '00

Absolutely my last word on this (I promise). This message does contain operational content. Patrick has confirmed by private mail that all the mailbox names specified in RFC 2142 are now supported by Domainz. Those operators who have expressed concern that the "4service" address and its friends give them the heebie-jeebies are free to use corresponding mailbox names from RFC 2142. Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Just in case, I'm away next week
by Geoff Thompson 15 Jan '00

15 Jan '00

Hello All, Not that I'm expecting any problems next week, but just in case someone emails me directly, rather than using the official channels : I'm away next week (17 Jan till 21 Jan), so please use the official email addresses to get hold of someone that can help you. They are : 4service(a)domainz.net.nz soa(a)waikato.ac.nz Regards, Geoff Thompson. ---------------------------------- Geoff Thompson <geofft(a)waikato.ac.nz> University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Ph: (07) 838 4748 Random Quote of the Minute : And now for something completely the same. ---------------------------------- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Just in case, I'm away next week
by Lin Nah 14 Jan '00

14 Jan '00

I had to delurk for this... Standardisation of email addresses. One of the good reasons behind RFC2142 seems to have been lost here. With the standard mailboxes specified, it ensures that when I email those email addresses, I can expect the emails to land in the mailbox of the people who are in charge of that particular task. Patrick O'brien did a search of the database and came up with the "username" statistics. That is fine that they don't use the standard addressing as they are specifying their own. The idea behind the standardised mailboxes is that if all else fails emailing that particular username should work. For example if someone in that datbase was named as joe(a)domainname.co.nz had left and the domain name didn't update it. SHould I wish to contact the technical contact (who was joe(a)domainname.co.nz) and it bounced because joe had left, I can then send it to postmaster or one of the other admin addresses. I often have to contact administrators regarding abuse like spam, DOS attacks etc. As long as I know the domain name, I don't have to think about it. I should be sure that if I emailed abuse(a)domainame, the email will get to the person who handles it. Whether abuse is an actual mailbox or an alias that points to someone else's mailbox or a .forward in some account is immaterial to me. It becomes a problem is we have to contact a domain's administrative contact and the email to abuse@ (or postmaster@ or soa@ etc) bounces and we have no other means of finding out the email address since finger does not work, there is no whois available for that country (or gtld), or no website for that domain. Only avenue is to traceroute and contact their upstream provider hoping that they will be able to forward that. This is why if people do know about RFC2142 and do try to adhere to the compulsory bits of it, it would make life easier for everyone. So in the case of domainz, I don't mind the 4service as long as the equivalent required username is also available. just my 2b worth Lin ps Oscar Abley's webpage http://patho.gen.nz/~oscar --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The Maori Net -- contact details?
by Chris Wedgwood 12 Jan '00

12 Jan '00

Does anyone know how to get hold of someone from The Maori Net? Preferably Kamera Raharaha, but I'll settle for anyone right now. I have an operational issue I want to talk to them about and their voice-mail is full... -cw -- Chris Wedgwood chris.wedgwood(a)clear.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[m.arnott@domainz.net.nz: [NewZ-Flash] Pending Changes to Domainz Systems - Registrar Workshops]
by Joe Abley 12 Jan '00

12 Jan '00

FYI ----- Forwarded message from Maria Arnott <m.arnott(a)domainz.net.nz> ----- X-Authentication-Warning: titan.actrix.gen.nz: majordomo set sender to owner-newz-flash(a)list.actrix.gen.nz using -f From: Maria Arnott <m.arnott(a)domainz.net.nz> To: "'newz-flash(a)domainz.net.nz'" <newz-flash(a)domainz.net.nz> Subject: [NewZ-Flash] Pending Changes to Domainz Systems - Registrar Workshops Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:25:47 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Precedence: bulk Dear list members, You are probably aware of the changes that are in the air for Domainz. Domainz is in the process of putting together workshops to brief Registrars on pending changes to Domainz' systems. Domainz is targeting Internet Service Providers and Webdesigners to enable them to understand and plan for changes to their systems when they interface with the new Domainz' registration system. The workshops will provide a briefing session giving an overview of the Systems Redevelopment including an application walk-through and familiarity session. Of particular importance to ISP's and Webdesigners will be how the changes may impact their systems for submission of requests to Domainz' registration service. We anticipate that the workshops will commence in early February. If you'd like to be kept informed or wish to express your interest in attending a workshop in your area, please email m.arnott(a)domainz.net.nz and in your subject header type 'Workshops'. My Regards, Maria Arnott Voice: 04 473 4567 Fax: 04 473 4569 email: m.arnott(a)domainz.net.nz web: www.domainz.net.nz - To unsubscribe to the newz-flash mailing list send a message to majordomo(a)domainz.net.nz with the keyword unsubscribe as the message plus the mailing list name. i.e.unsubscribe newz-flash ----- End forwarded message ----- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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soa@waikato.ac.nz
by Patrick O'Brien 10 Jan '00

10 Jan '00

Peter, I've spoken with Waikato, who acknowledge receipt of one email to soa(a)waikato from you yesterday mid-morning. As I understand it that email was for information purposes only, and did not require an operational actions in the .nz Register. If the other e-mails that you say were sent to Waikato are to do with operations of the .nz Register, then can I ask that you forward them direct to me in this instance. Typically we would expect to see enquiries being sent to, 4service(a)domainz.net.nz If those other e-mails have nothing to do with the operations of the .nz Register, then I'll bow out and let you liaise with your normal contacts at Waikato. My regards, Patrick -----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of 2Day Operations Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 3:17 PM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: soa(a)waikato.ac.nz Has anybody experienced any difficulty getting responses from above recently? We have sent a couple of messages to the address in the last week or so and dont appear to get an answer. When Rex was on board we got a reply within minutes on most days. Perhaps that alias is no longer monitored? regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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soa@waikato.ac.nz
by 2Day Operations 10 Jan '00

10 Jan '00

Has anybody experienced any difficulty getting responses from above recently? We have sent a couple of messages to the address in the last week or so and dont appear to get an answer. When Rex was on board we got a reply within minutes on most days. Perhaps that alias is no longer monitored? regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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ANNOUNCE: Oscar James Abley
by Chris Wedgwood 05 Jan '00

05 Jan '00

Oscar James Abley, 8lb1 born 6 Jan 7:55. Mum and baby doing fine. Dad sounding very happy (and very tired). Congratulations Joe! -cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: GMT Passes smoothly
by Arron Scott 02 Jan '00

02 Jan '00

Our experience was similar to Jamie's with outbound traffic more than three times the usual, we shifted a little traffic just in case but it dropped rapidly after midnight. Overall it was a quiter 24 hours inbound than usual. As for the timestamp on my mail ... it's my Linux machine I only ever use when I'm offsite, and you're lucky it doesn't say 1984 !!! Arron On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Joe Abley wrote: > On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 01:34:11AM +1300, Arron Scott wrote: > > Well NetGate has also withstood GMT with no hitches in reporting or > > traffic. Really our only issue was huge outbound traffic last night, other > > than that all's well. > > How much more traffic than usual? Do you have any numbers? > > Just interested :) > > > Joe > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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DNS Spring Cleaning -- Final four full days
by Patrick O' Brien 02 Jan '00

02 Jan '00

Happy New Year to you all, The DNS Spring Cleaning Project has now entered its final four full days. http://www.domainz.net.nz/newsstand/stories/SpringCleaning.html The program specially developed for analysis of the .nz domain space expires by January 7, so there is still time to take advantage right now. PROGRESS SO FAR ================ To-date, the results have been impressive. By last week, over 700 individual visitors had been to the site to download almost 550 copies of the special .nz program. Our surveys tell us that you've made changes to you DNS configurations that have fixed around 4,000 errors that the .nz program picked up. That is tremendous, so thanks. We've also seen significant reductions in the number of .nz domain names showing errors, moving from 28% of the .nz Register down to 25%. More detailed results of the last survey can be found at the Men and Mice site, http://sc.menandmice.com/statistic.html .nz TECHNICAL CONTACT DETAILS ============================ On a separate but connected note, we emailed all technical contacts listed in the .nz DNS 2 weeks ago with some startling results -- there was a bounce rate around 14% !!!! One purpose of the Technical contact is to be reachable so as to deal with any technical issues relating to the hosting of a domain -- this cannot happen where the email address is bouncing :() The key reasons that we could ascertain for this high rate were three fold:- 1. Using personal names -------------------------------------------- There are a considerable number of ISP's that use an individual person's name (eg fred(a).. or mary(a)...) rather than a functional name (eg dns(a)... or soa(a)...), and most bounced mail came from the former category. ISP's should consider the use of functional names for their technical contact rather than individual names, as the former have much more "permanence". 2. Name Holder listed as technical contact ------------------------------------------------------------------ There are a few ISP's that put the Name Holder's name as the technical contact and this does not appear to be updated as the Name Holder's details change. Moreover, most Name Holders who fell into this category and responded to our email knew precious little about the technical details of hosting their domain name. The technical contact should be someone who understands the technical issues of a domain name. Typically we would expect to see the organisation with the technical wherewithal to host the domain name shown in this field. ISP's should check to ensure that they list the appropriate technical contact person. 3. Not keeping details current ------------------------------------------------ The final category reflected organisations that had not kept current the domain name information. In many cases, it followed the move of a domain name from one ISP to another. Generally the IP details had been updated to make the domain work, but no other details (Name Holder, Billing, Technical contact) had changed. ISP's need to ensure that they do keep all domain details up-to-date, particularly when a domain name is moved from another ISP. My thanks for your time, My regards, PATRICK J O'BRIEN P.S. === Remember, there are only 4 more days to use the special .nz DNS program. Do take the time to use the program to check out the health of your .nz domain names, http://sc.menandmice.com/getit.html Fax: (04) 473-4569 Voice: (04) 473-4567 Mail: P.O.BRIEN(a)DOMAINZ.NET.NZ Web: http://www.DOMAINZ.NET.NZ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Routing problems at clix
by Richard Naylor 31 Dec '99

31 Dec '99

At 09:28 pm 31/12/99 +1300, you wrote: >On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Joe Abley wrote: >> This is also a singularly bad night to expect anybody to make any >> changes to fix a problem you've been seeing for a week :) > >True, whos up tonight anyway? I've already got 1 radio station ringing me >to tell them if the internet has fallen over at midnight :) > There are 2 of us here at CityLink tidying our email piles, talking over holidays etc. I've been scanning our network thru the day and a few hosts have been removed or are getting slow to respond. We'll be here til around 1 or 2 (when my son gets back from a disco for the ride home). rich richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz This mail message contains information that is confidential and which may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and erase this mail. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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2000
by Hamish MacEwan 31 Dec '99

31 Dec '99

Best wishes for 2000 to you. Hamish. PS "except!?" Honestly. -- Any time you get a mouthful of hot soup, the next thing you do will be wrong. -- Zall's Law --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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GMT Passes smoothly
by Arron Scott 31 Dec '99

31 Dec '99

Well NetGate has also withstood GMT with no hitches in reporting or traffic. Really our only issue was huge outbound traffic last night, other than that all's well. God bless Cisco ... and all who sail in her ;) Arron Scott Telecom NetGate --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Anyone know of any real issues aside from PSTN congestion?
by Chris Wedgwood 31 Dec '99

31 Dec '99

Out of curiosity... Does anyone know if any real problems aside form heavy PSTN congestion? Presumably these issues would be also paranoia induced such as perhaps power-spikes cause by everyone testing the lights at 00:01... (perhaps there is an equivalent here with water supply?) So far the publicity I've seen has all be along the lines of `business' as usual -- were/are operators elsewhere in the world made aware of issues such as the PSTN congestion? -cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Routing problems at clix
by Sam Sargeant 31 Dec '99

31 Dec '99

> True, whos up tonight anyway? NetLink/Telstra have a few of us looking after the rubber band here. If it snaps, then we are ready to spring into action.. (Or to the pub!) Even if things go smoothly, I'm going to be here until 2:30am at least. How long is everyone else going to be working? ##----Sam-Sargeant---------NetLink-Ltd--------Systems-Developer----## until($x>=40){print$"x$x;for('#4V%M','+(%-A<F=E86YT("T`','%($IU<W0`', '(($%N;W1H97(`','.(%!E<FP(a)2&%C:V5R(0H`'){print unpack('u*',$_)}$x+=2} ##.................................................................## --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 31 Dec '99

31 Dec '99

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has neither a king, a president nor a formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. At the beginning of the last year of the twentieth century (or the zeroth year of the twenty-first, if you prefer) the list had 120 subscribers, with the count growing slightly each month.) The address hpeturs(a)clear.co.nz was removed from the list earlier today. The user of that address is welcome to resubscribe with an address which sends me fewer bounce messages. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Telecom NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations (nor the administrator) is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ To search the archive, see http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/search.html (and remember to select nznog). Subscribing to the List To subscribe to the NZNOG list, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, where the body of the message reads subscribe nznog There are at present no restrictions on who may subscribe to the list, or even on who may post to the list. Digest Mailing List If you don't wish to receive postings as they are sent, you can instead subscribe to the nznog-digest mailiing list, on which all postings are sent out in a single "digest" every couple of days. Other Activities NZNOG does not at present have other regular activities than this mailing list, though some Auckland subscribers have been known to meet over beer. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Help date<CR>
by Roger De Salis 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

Looks like Richard at Citylink is determined to test early and often for y2k, the last posting was 01/01/00 23.08 in my MUA. (which happens to be Netscape 4.04 and I'm told this is not Y2K compliant by the desktop conformance police at Cisco.) -- \_ Roger De Salis Cisco Systems NZ Ltd </' +64 25 481 452 L3, 117 Customhouse Qy /) +64 4 473 4912 Wellington, New Zealand (/ roger(a)desalis.gen.nz rdesalis(a)cisco.com ` --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Who's still there?
by Michael Newbery 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

We are still here. No overloading either. (At least, on our local loop). And the cable modems are all still here. With appropriate 1 Jan 2000 log entries. Interesting to watch the paranoids turning their equipment off prior to midnight---you can come back now folks :) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Who's still there?
by Geoff Huston 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

At 01:34 AM 1/1/00 +1300, Simon Lyall wrote: >Just got a call from an Australian customer. Apparantly there are rumours >going all over over there (he got a call from someone who got a call etc). >That all the power and the phones over here have died. > >I also have one Australian customer (medium sized ISP) who took themselves >offline for the night. we have not noticed anything abnormal at this point - it must be a pretty small 'medium' isp, as its not overly visible. Geoff Huston Telstra --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Phew
by Joe Abley 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

Happy new year :) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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.nz Register
by Patrick O' Brien 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

Hi, FYI -- We've now completed a download from ns99. and conducted some checking on the zone files. Thankfully all seems to be OK My regards, PATRICK J O'BRIEN Fax: (04) 473-4569 Voice: (04) 473-4567 Mail: P.O.BRIEN(a)DOMAINZ.NET.NZ Web: http://www.DOMAINZ.NET.NZ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Routing problems at clix
by Simon Lyall 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

Had one little problem so far (weird routing thing, netgate is looking at it), just seems to be a few networks rather than a big thing though. making a huge amount of noise on the alarms though. Hmm, gotta go, time for the fireworks :) -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz System/Network Admin | T&C Enforcement | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz The Internet Group, Auck. | Asst Doorman | Web: Currently Offline --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NIMS page
by Joe Abley 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

Is it just me, or has the status on the National Incident Monitoring System not been updated since 9pm? Isn't it supposed to be live at 11? -- Ua lawa küpono ka hakahaka pä o këia pä malule --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Routing problems at clix
by Richard Naylor 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

At 10:55 pm 31/12/99 +1300, Shane Cole wrote: >I'm up tonight with my pc and a couple o laptops. Laptops have mrtg and >netsaint and the pc is good for some quake 3 action :) > >My dining table looks like something out of the matrix :) > It probably IS something out of the Matrix. For those readers who want to have a good moan at the level of connectivity provided by their employer, Shane has 100mbps to his home. Maybe thats why I seem to live in the office. (actually, it IS why my son keeps coming in to the office all the time) rich richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz This mail message contains information that is confidential and which may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and erase this mail. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: who's up tonight.....
by Roger De Salis 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

Cisco will be here until about 1.30am. Rooting around in the bottom draw (in amongst all the orders), I have a copy tftpboot.com for MSDOS 3.2, just in case anyone gets really desperate..... runs on any 286 :-) This makes rubber bands look sophisticated.... -- \_ Roger De Salis Cisco Systems NZ Ltd </' +64 25 481 452 L3, 117 Customhouse Qy /) +64 4 473 4912 Wellington, New Zealand (/ roger(a)desalis.gen.nz rdesalis(a)cisco.com ` --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Routing problems at clix
by Richard Stevenson 30 Dec '99

30 Dec '99

Hiya Anyone know who I should ask about routing problems somewhere at CLIX, or maybe Netgate.net.nz? I haven't been able to connect from here to parnassus.pmail.gen.nz (192.156.225.2) for about a week, but I can get to it from the States (risc.ua.edu) They connect to CLIX via Pacific Networks (pacific.co.nz). All my traceroutes from parnassus.pmail.gen.nz to here die somewhere inside CLIX (203.167.244.161). Traceroutes from here go via Netlink to Telstra (Auckland, Sydney), NetGate, then die inside a netblock that InterNIC believe belongs to the Wellington School of Medicine. If anyone would like to see the outputs, just give me a yell. I'll be watching tonight :-) FWIW, pmail.gen.nz changed their upstream about a week ago. Cheers Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard Stevenson Systems Engineer, Information Technology Services Victoria University of Wellington Phone: +64 4 4635051 Fax: +64 4 4635552 Being a Unix system administrator is like being a tech in a biological warfare laboratory, except that none of the substances are labeled consistently, any of the compounds are just as likely to kill you by themselves as they are when mixed with one another, and it is never clear what distinction is made between a catastrophic failure in the lab and a successful test in the field. (--M. Tiemann) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Domainz holiday hours of operation
by Patrick O'Brien 22 Dec '99

22 Dec '99

NZNOG list members, The Domainz website has now been updated with details on the holiday hours of operation, covering four key areas 1. Customer Enquiries 2. Domain name registrations 3. Urgent Issues 4. Keeping in touch which can be found at http://www.domainz.net.nz/newsstand/hoursofoperation.html Finally, from the team at Domainz for the holiday season, Best wishes My Regards Maria Arnott (Posted on behalf of) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: ORBS block
by Olof Olsson 22 Dec '99

22 Dec '99

> > > CLEAR/CLEAR Net is _not_ using ORBS. We are being scanned > as you are > > > though... > > > > Snap for Netlink/Telstra. > > For what it's worth, neither does Actrix, although we are constantly > scanned and have often found ourselves blocked with little or no > warning! > Ditto. We have been "blocked" a couple of times due to customers having open relays. Funny, we always get the ORBS notification around 4pm on Friday afternoons... Must be a coincidince... --Olof --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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ns99.waikato.ac.nz
by Simon Lyall 21 Dec '99

21 Dec '99

Hmm ping times to it just went to about 4 seconds, 80% packet loss. It's still answering name queries but it's a bit of a worry. Hopefully if it's a real problem Domainz will fix it when they get back to work :( -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz System/Network Admin | T&C Enforcement | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz The Internet Group, Auck. | Asst Doorman | Web: Currently Offline --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: ORBS block
by Olof Olsson 21 Dec '99

21 Dec '99

> I'm not sure who the "we" concerned is but I see requests > from a particular > netblock maintained by a particular admin who just happens to > host the ORBS > site going through our network ranges on a regular basis... > anyway, the > point of my post, does anyone in NZ actually use the ORBS > database on there > mail servers (aside from the obvious) as a spam blocking > tool? XTRA, IHUG, > ICONZ, Clear, Voyager?? > CLEAR/CLEAR Net is _not_ using ORBS. We are being scanned as you are though... --Olof --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: ORBS block - Forwarded
by Donald Neal 21 Dec '99

21 Dec '99

From: James Bell <jrb(a)wibble.net> Subject: RE: ORBS block In-Reply-To: <NDBBINFAOBJJKEKGNMGCCEPCDFAA.shane.cole(a)staff.paradise.net .nz> References: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9912211535460.26661-100000(a)mailhost.manawatu.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >point of my post, does anyone in NZ actually use the ORBS database on there >mail servers (aside from the obvious) as a spam blocking tool? XTRA, IHUG, >ICONZ, Clear, Voyager? Voyager doesn't. I'd be interested to know how many of ORBS sub-scribers do so becuase its easier to subscribe than to fix their customer's open relays. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: ORBS block (fwd)
by Robert Hunt 20 Dec '99

20 Dec '99

Jamie, To me the notion that ORBS is "attacking" is obviously specious.. so one goes on to wonder why Dean Anderson's message carries any appearance of credibility.. Hopefully whatever merit you see in Dean Anderson's message is soon run to ground by a little net research. That research will show that Dean Anderson is well known for "imaginative and persistent postings" and got himself kicked out of spam-l and spamtools, etc.. and that he features in a list of Net Kooks. Alan Brown /ORBS is assisting the FBI in some respects.. yes. Dean Anderson assisting the FBI? ... as a weapon of irritation perhaps :-) if you have some ideas on what would reduce the frequency of his "helpful" calls ... they might like to hear from you :-) Robert Hunt --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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A.P.E. and the future
by Robert Hunt 19 Dec '99

19 Dec '99

hi All, We have with some enthusiasm looked forward to the practical action re peering, and are really pleased that Clear and IHUG and very soon Telecom are going to be peering with us. No doubt this means that those of you on the above list are peering with each other too as well as other smaller parties. Today Telstra appear to have distinguished themselves. Our initiative to BGP peer with them was rejected in accordance with a policy of "not peering with anyone but a carrier". (- David Venables) This seems antithetical to the overall objective of an "exchange" ? In the interests of network efficiency do you think that Homo Australias could at least be persuaded to exchange with the route reflector?? I presume that in the end the win-win scenario of the exchange makes "evolutionary sense" :-)) Robert Hunt --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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ORBS block (fwd)
by Jamie Clark 16 Dec '99

16 Dec '99

This may be of interest: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:44:19 -0500 From: Dean Anderson <dean(a)av8.com> To: nanog(a)merit.edu Cc: noc(a)bbn.com, noc(a)netgate.net.nz, abuse(a)bbn.com, abuse(a)netgate.net.nz Subject: ORBS block Well, after almost a month of no attacks and a coincident month of ORBS blocking at BBN/NZ link, the block on ORBS has been lifted, and we have started getting relay attacks again. I think thats pretty conclusive evidence that they are the cause of the relay attacks. I'm hoping the removal was an oversight, but I'd like to ask people to please put the following access lists in: access-list 104 deny ip 202.36.148.5 0.0.0.255 any access-list 104 deny ip 202.36.147.16 0.0.0.255 any Luckily, the FBI just called me back to begin work on last months attacks. I guess Egypt Air must be getting wrapped up. I guess I have some stuff to add to our complaints. Actually, given the cause and effect demonstrated by the block, I'm hoping that this will motivate the FBI to do something with ORBS. --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean(a)av8.com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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1q2000 in-addr walk - first notice
by Bill Manning 15 Dec '99

15 Dec '99

Hi, I appologize for duplicates. The next audit of the in-addr.arpa. tree will begin 01 january 2000. Since 1997, I've been walking the in-addr tree every quarter, looking for numbers of delegations, accurate delegations, and types and styles of error conditions. So... this is a heads up that you will be seeing zone transfers being generated by a couple of the collecter machines here. For those of you who utilize BINDs access controls, I'd appreciate your inclusion of the collector machines in allowed transfers. Queries will be from the following IP addresses: 128.9.160.57 and 198.32.4.13 If there are any questions or concerns, I'd be happy to talk about them. Past data has been presented at IEPG, Apricot and RIPE meetings. The expectation is that future data will be presented in the same and similar forums. Online summaries can be found at: www.isi.edu/~bmanning/in-addr-audit.html --bill --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[pfs@cisco.com: [apops] AP routing table analysis]
by Joe Abley 15 Dec '99

15 Dec '99

>From the APOPS mailing list... ----- Forwarded message from Philip Smith <pfs(a)cisco.com> ----- X-Sender: philsmit(a)lint.cisco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:01:42 +1000 To: apops(a)whois.apnic.net From: Philip Smith <pfs(a)cisco.com> Subject: [apops] AP routing table analysis Cc: bgp-stats(a)whois.apnic.net Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone, As has been presented at the last two IEPG meetings I have been doing some work with APNIC which involves analysing the Internet Routing table as seen on the APNIC routers. The project has been running informally since March of this year, and I now feel it is an appropriate time to widen the audience who are aware of this work, and to make you aware of some of the initial results. APNIC receive the full Internet routing table at their NSPIXP2 location in Japan. The analysis work basically takes a daily snapshot of this full routing table at 4am GMT+10 hours and then separates out the announcements according to several programmed criteria. These criteria include information such as the number of prefixes and ASes which are being used in this region from APNIC allocatable space. The daily statistics are available on the APNIC web site, at the URL: http://www.apnic.net/stats/bgp both in graphical and textual format. The daily text is also sent by e-mail to the bgp-stats(a)lists.apnic.net mailing list. To subscribe to the list, please send e-mail to majordomo(a)lists.apnic.net, and put the words "subscribe bgp-stats" in the body of the mail message. I plan to start posting a weekly message to the apops(a)lists.apnic.net mailing list. If you are not on this list (which is the Asia Pacific Operations list, equivalent to the North American NANOG list, or European EOF list), you can subscribe through the APNIC majordomo system as referenced above ("subscribe apops"), or view the archive referenced from the APNIC web pages. All feedback and comments are welcome. With APNIC's help I am working on the next phase of the analysis system which includes more information and better graphical presentation. Acknowledgements: Thanks are due to APNIC for allowing me access to their equipment to run this project, and for their support. Thanks especially are due to Bruce Campbell for building and maintaining the web pages. Best wishes! philip -- -------------------------------------------------------- Philip Smith ph: +61 7 3238 8200 Consulting Engineering, Office of the CTO, Cisco Systems -------------------------------------------------------- * APOPS: Asia Pacific Operations Forum * * To unsubscribe: send "unsubscribe" to apops-request(a)apnic.net * ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Ua lawa küpono ka hakahaka pä o këia pä malule --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[sean@donelan.com: subscription information for y2k list]
by Joe Abley 15 Dec '99

15 Dec '99

This may be of interest... For background on what Sean is doing, it might be instructive to glance through some archives from the NANOG list. There are operators here using different domestic infrastructure, different under-sea cables (as well as satellites operated by different stellite operators, using different earthstations both here and overseas). So if there's a good mix of people contributing as the clock ticks over to 1900, at least _some_ of it should get out. Joe ----- Forwarded message from Sean Donelan <sean(a)donelan.com> ----- Date: 15 Dec 1999 21:40:59 -0800 X-Sent: 16 Dec 1999 05:40:59 GMT To: jabley(a)patho.gen.nz From: Sean Donelan <sean(a)donelan.com> X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.3 Subject: subscription information for y2k list The y2k-announce list will be used for administrative announcements through December 30, 1999. From December 31, 1999 through January 3, 2000 the y2k-announce list will only be used for significant events. To subscribe to the y2k-announce list send a e-mail to majordomo(a)zocalo.net containing the command "subscribe y2k-announce" (without the quotes) in the body of the message. Lurkers are welcome on the y2k-announce list. Please do not subscribe addresses with automatic responses, for example NOC trouble ticket addresses which automatically respond with a ticket number. The y2k-status list will be the workhorse list. It will contain regular status reports including summaries of other ISP's reports, and information from the Information Coordination Center and International Y2K Coordaintion Centers through the New Year's weekend. Subscribers to the Y2K-status list are expected to contribute by filling out a short template in each message, and mailing it before the next status interval. No one has been subscribed to the y2k-status list automatically. Please subscribe the most appropriate address or alias for your organization. Remember, whomever you subscribe should be prepared to report the status of your organization. The y2k-status list will be moderated, and will only have summary posts according to the schedule below. This should avoid problems with a deluage of chatting overwhelming the list. In order for the list to provide the most value to everyone, everyone on the y2k-status list should contribute. To subscribe to the y2k-status list send a e-mail to majordomo(a)zocalo.net containing the command "subscribe y2k-status" (without the quotes) in the body of the message. Please do not subscribe addresses with automatic responses, for example NOC trouble ticket addresses which automatically respond with a ticket number. Hint: everyone should know the difference between their local time zone and UTC. A copy of the status template is included in this message ====================== CUT HERE ====================================== 1.Y2KVersion: 1 2.Organization: 3.NetworkASN: 4.Location: 5.ContactName: 6.Email: 7.Telephone: 8.ReportDueTime: 2000-01-01 00:00 UTC 9.Status: Normal/Reduced Capacity/Significant Disruption 10.Y2KRelated: No/Yes 11.Remarks: ====================== CUT HERE ====================================== Please complete the contact section (2-6). The ReportDueTime (8) will be set in each message to the due date for this report, 60 minutes before the next schedule status summary. In Status (9) choose one of the three options, and delete the other two. In Y2KRelated (10) indicate if the disruption is due to a Y2K related problem. In Remarks (11) give a brief description of a disruption, any known workaround, and any known restoral times. Please do not delay sending a status report if you do not know or have all the information, mark the item "UNKNOWN". Scheduled Status Reports (cities are informational, local time varies) 1999-12-30 12:30 UTC 1999-12-30 07:30 EST TEST POST 1999-12-31 00:30 UTC 1999-12-30 19:30 EST VERIFICATION POST 1999-12-31 09:30 UTC 1999-12-31 04:30 EST Initial Status Post 1999-12-31 12:30 UTC 1999-12-31 07:30 EST Wellington/Kamchatka 1999-12-31 15:30 UTC 1999-12-31 10:30 EST Tokyo/Adelaide 1999-12-31 18:30 UTC 1999-12-31 13:30 EST Novoisbrisk/Dhaka 1999-12-31 21:30 UTC 1999-12-31 16:30 EST Moscow/Riyadh 2000-01-01 00:30 UTC 1999-12-31 19:30 EST London/Monrovia 2000-01-01 03:30 UTC 1999-12-31 22:30 EST Buenos Aires/Rio de Janeiro 2000-01-01 06:30 UTC 2000-01-01 01:30 EST St. Louis/Mexico City 2000-01-01 09:30 UTC 2000-01-01 04:30 EST Anchorage 2000-01-01 12:30 UTC 2000-01-01 07:30 EST Marshall Islands 2000-01-02 00:30 UTC 2000-01-01 19:30 EST New Year's Summary 2000-01-02 12:30 UTC 2000-01-02 07:30 EST Weekend Summary 2000-01-03 00:30 UTC 2000-01-02 19:30 EST First Business Day 2000-01-03 12:30 UTC 2000-01-03 07:30 EST US Business Day Starts 2000-01-04 00:30 UTC 2000-01-03 19:30 EST CLOSING POST ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Ua lawa küpono ka hakahaka pä o këia pä malule --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Cisco Y2K Information.
by Roger De Salis 15 Dec '99

15 Dec '99

Attached is spreadsheet for Cisco's Y2K information. As this list is populated by reasonably sane people, please use it with discretion. In the first instance, Customers should call the TAC, In New Zealand the local numbers are Tel: 0800 44 6237 Tel: +61 2 8448 7107 E-Mail: asiapac-tac(a)cisco.com There will be local Cisco staff on call throughout the period. Have a great break, and I sincerly hope IOS keeps humming along... Rgds Roger De Salis -- \_ Roger De Salis Cisco Systems NZ Ltd </' +64 25 481 452 L3, 117 Customhouse Qy /) +64 4 473 4912 Wellington, New Zealand (/ roger(a)desalis.gen.nz rdesalis(a)cisco.com `

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Colocation in Wellington
by Joe Abley 15 Dec '99

15 Dec '99

This is barely on-topic for this list, so apologies if it offends anyone :) I have a client who is looking to colocate a Cobalt RAQ2 somewhere well-connected in Wellington -- i.e. with a provider who peers with plenty of other networks, preferably within fast ethernet range of WIX. If anybody has colo in Wellington that they'd like to tell me about, please do (maybe by private mail -- I'm happy to summarise to the list if other people are interested). Thanks! Joe -- Ua lawa küpono ka hakahaka pä o këia pä malule --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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brief telstra router outage at NZIX
by Sid Jones 14 Dec '99

14 Dec '99

We are going to have a brief outage on our box nzix.hamilton.telstra.net as we are swapping out some hardware. Start time approximately 6:00pm December 16th, duration approximately 5 minutes. Cheers, Sid Jones NetLink/Telstra. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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{96|97}.203.in-addr.arpa delegations from ns1.waikato.ac.nz
by Joe Abley 13 Dec '99

13 Dec '99

Has anybody managed to get an in-addr.arpa delegation from 96.203.in-addr.arpa or 97.203.in-addr.arpa processed recently? I've been trying to get a couple through for the past month, but no luck so far. It seems possible that Rex Croft's departure from UoW has caused the procedure for these delegations to change somewhat (at least, whatever APNIC normally do doesn't seem to have worked). If anybody knows a good way to make this happen quickly, I'd be keen to hear it :) Joe -- Ua lawa küpono ka hakahaka pä o këia pä malule --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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ISOCNZ to continue profit taking on DNS revenues
by Peter Mott 13 Dec '99

13 Dec '99

> 7. MOVED: (David Zanetti): > > "That the existing 1996 Council policy stating that the > DNS be run on a non-profit basis be ratified by this > AGM as binding policy on the Council" > > MOTION LOST (Against 26/For 20/Abstentions 7: John > Vorstermans, Gavin Adlam, Keith Davidson, Ernie Newman, > Judith Speight, Leo Neal, Graeme Osborne) Above from annual general meeting of ISOCNZ. Clearly council dont wish to stick with the original policy of operating the DNS on a cost recover basis with any operating excess being applied to DNS related activity. If industry does not stop these people soon, it will be too late. regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZIX and DOMAINZ outage - Sunday 12-Dec1999 4:30am
by Stephen Daniell 09 Dec '99

09 Dec '99

>From 4:45am to about 5:00am Sunday morning the 12-Dec-1999 there will be a power outage in Waikato University's main computer room. This will cause an outage for the NZIX and for all of the DOMAINZ services during this time. This is due to a serious fault found in the UPS this morning. Unfortunately the fault is in the bypass switch so we are unable to bypass the UPS to keep the Computer room running while we work on the UPS. Sorry about the short notice, but the nature of the fault means we may lose power to the Computer Room at any time until the fault is fixed. We will try to keep the down time to a minimum. Stephen Daniell --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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hotmail.com
by Tony Wicks 08 Dec '99

08 Dec '99

Is anyone else getting reports of customers having problems accessing hotmail ? Tony Wicks Network Engineer ICONZ - an Asia Online Company Ph: +64 9 358 1186 Fax: +64 9 300 3122 http://www.iconz.co.nz http://www.asiaonlineltd.com Caution - The information contained in this e-mail (and any accompanying documents) may be legally privileged and confidential. The information is intended only for the recipient named in this message. If you are not the named recipient, you must not peruse, use, disseminate or copy any information received in or with this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please telephone us on 0800 THE NET (0800 843 638) or reply to this e-mail. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Hey there fellow Noggers.
by James Tyson 07 Dec '99

07 Dec '99

So, I am looking for a new job. I really dont like being rostered on to work 4pm to midnight from the 21st through to the 31st. I have experience with very complex networks (ie, ihug's dumb one). Cisco IOS is a breeze, Solaris/Linux/BSD/what have you. I can do it all. You want to hire me. Prospective employers please email me. James Tyson -- Head Engineering Toolsmith - The Internet Group. >---------- I know stuff ----------< --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 02 Dec '99

02 Dec '99

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has neither a king, a president nor a formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. (At last count the list had a little over 110 subscribers, with the count growing slightly each month.) The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Telecom NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations (nor the administrator) is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ To search the archive, see http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/search.html (and remember to select nznog). Subscribing to the List To subscribe to the NZNOG list, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, where the body of the message reads subscribe nznog There are at present no restrictions on who may subscribe to the list, or even on who may post to the list. Digest Mailing List If you don't wish to receive postings as they are sent, you can instead subscribe to the nznog-digest mailiing list, on which all postings are sent out in a single "digest" every couple of days. Other Activities NZNOG does not at present have other regular activities than this mailing list, though some Auckland subscribers have been known to meet over beer. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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A plea for some clue
by 2Day Operations 30 Nov '99

30 Nov '99

If you work for an ISP that employs people without clue to answer the telephone and accept orders, please spread the word that .com domain names do not have authorisation keys. We are getting dozens of calls a day from people asking for keys when they simply do not exist. As an ISP, our preference is that providers taking delegation send the template to NSI or enable their customer to do it for themselves. Sending the customer back to us to change the delegation is not usually helpful. Having said that, as an NSI premier partner, if there are any providers with specific instances of problems with .com names, change of delegation or billing, please fee free to contact us. We have 24/7 access to a real person at NSI to fix problems. We do not charge for this service. regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: .nz zone only in fair condition!
by Warwick Glendenning 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

Peter Whilst I was a bit suprised myself especially when it said the software was developed in Iceland, I thought maybe it was a joke. However in my opinion I find your email to domainz what I "personally" consider a little outside the spirit of these mailing lists. Why not direct your concerns to the author of the mail, not all of us on the list! Thanks Warwick -----Original Message----- From: Peter Mott [mailto:peter(a)2day.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 12:13 AM To: isocnz-l(a)isocnz.org.nz Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: .nz zone only in fair condition! Looks like many of us received an unsolicited commercial email from DOMAINZ promoting a little Windows based tool that checks the health of your zone. I downloaded and ran it against .nz and here is what it told me:- THE ZONE IS IN A FAIR CONDITION You should be aware of these issues: * The delegation information for the zone is incorrect. The name server "dns1.clear.net.nz." is only listed in delegation data The name server "dns2.clear.net.nz." is only listed in delegation data The name server "ns1.clear.net.nz." is not listed in delegation data The name server "ns2.clear.net.nz." is not listed in delegation data The name server "ns1.waikato.ac.nz." is not listed in delegation data A dot is possibly missing in the host name "ns2.clear.net.nz.nz." A dot is possibly missing in the host name "ns1.clear.net.nz.nz." The A record "ns1.clear.net.nz." is duplicated The A record "ns2.clear.net.nz." is duplicated The A record "ns99.waikato.ac.nz." is duplicated The A record "rata.vuw.ac.nz." is duplicated The A record "gorgon.xtra.co.nz." is duplicated OK, so playing with toys aside, did anybody note the dispensation given to DOMAINZ by ISCONZ that allows it to use the .nz technical contact data to promote a commercial product? ISOCNZ WHOIS POLICY FORBIDS "Using any information contained in the WHOIS query output to attempt a targeted contact campaign with any person, or any organisation, using any medium." The policy clearly needs to state, except DOMAINZ, who may send not just a short message with a link to a web site to all and sundry, but yes a full page of hype for your enjoyment. We have a number of DNS products we promote to our New Zealand customers, but we dont use UCE to do it, nor do we use the WHOIS contact data as a source for sales promotions. Shame on Domainz! regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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.nz zone only in fair condition!
by Peter Mott 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

Looks like many of us received an unsolicited commercial email from DOMAINZ promoting a little Windows based tool that checks the health of your zone. I downloaded and ran it against .nz and here is what it told me:- THE ZONE IS IN A FAIR CONDITION You should be aware of these issues: * The delegation information for the zone is incorrect. The name server "dns1.clear.net.nz." is only listed in delegation data The name server "dns2.clear.net.nz." is only listed in delegation data The name server "ns1.clear.net.nz." is not listed in delegation data The name server "ns2.clear.net.nz." is not listed in delegation data The name server "ns1.waikato.ac.nz." is not listed in delegation data A dot is possibly missing in the host name "ns2.clear.net.nz.nz." A dot is possibly missing in the host name "ns1.clear.net.nz.nz." The A record "ns1.clear.net.nz." is duplicated The A record "ns2.clear.net.nz." is duplicated The A record "ns99.waikato.ac.nz." is duplicated The A record "rata.vuw.ac.nz." is duplicated The A record "gorgon.xtra.co.nz." is duplicated OK, so playing with toys aside, did anybody note the dispensation given to DOMAINZ by ISCONZ that allows it to use the .nz technical contact data to promote a commercial product? ISOCNZ WHOIS POLICY FORBIDS "Using any information contained in the WHOIS query output to attempt a targeted contact campaign with any person, or any organisation, using any medium." The policy clearly needs to state, except DOMAINZ, who may send not just a short message with a link to a web site to all and sundry, but yes a full page of hype for your enjoyment. We have a number of DNS products we promote to our New Zealand customers, but we dont use UCE to do it, nor do we use the WHOIS contact data as a source for sales promotions. Shame on Domainz! regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Rex Croft...
by Chris Wedgwood 28 Nov '99

28 Nov '99

Out of interest, can anyone clue me in on specifically where Rex has gone and what he is doing? -cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Zone file build -- Monday 29-Nov-99
by Patrick O'Brien 28 Nov '99

28 Nov '99

List members, cc: nznog list Waikato are experiencing some technical difficulty this evening in relation to the nightly .nz zone file build. This means that new name registrations, changes and cancellations will not be "live" on the DNS by 6:00 pm this evening. Waikato have indicated that this issue could take some hours to resolve. This means that the primary zone files will may not be reloaded until some time tomorrow morning. I will update you using these lists as I am aware of progress. My apologies for any inconvenience that this may cause. My regards, PATRICK J O'BRIEN Fax: (04) 473-4569 Voice: (04) 473-4567 Mail: P.O.BRIEN(a)DOMAINZ.NET.NZ Web: http://www.DOMAINZ.NET.NZ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FYI: a channelized E1 problem(Answer)
by Dennis Su 28 Nov '99

28 Nov '99

FYI, in case someone could come across this problem again. The answer is the pinout of NTU and router cable. We made a RJ-45 cable that cross-wires pin 1&2 to 4&5, and vice versa. It worked straightaway. The pinouts on Cisco router and Telecom NTU are all fixed. You would think they are pretty much standard but apparently not. Regards, Dennis > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Lang [mailto:steve.lang(a)attica.co.nz] > Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 4:51 PM > To: Dennis Su; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: RE: a channelized E1 problem > > > Hiya Dennis. > > > We are having a mysterious problem with a channelized E1. I am > > wondering if > > you have any clue. Any input would be very much appreciated. > > > > We have been trying to commission a new 512K leased circuit but not > > successful. At the central end the NTU(CSU/DSU) is connected to a > > Synchronous serial port on AS5200 via X21. At the branch > end the NTU is > > connected to a Balanced Channelized E1 port on 3620 via G.703 > > RJ-45. We have > > done loopback test and located the source of problem. It's > > between the 3620 > > and NTU at branch. We brought back the 120-Ohm RJ-45 cable > and checked the > > cable OK. And Telecom has double-checked the circuit as well. It > > seems that > > the router is not talking to NTU at all. I have listed the router > > config and > > the output of show controller etc. The IOS is 11.3(3). > > Hmmm. My suspicion would be NTU Config. Perhaps the NTU isn't > speaking CRC4 > framing? If it's a Telecom cct, then they'll possibly have an > OpenTel NTU on > it, and you can specify all sorts of things through the > cryptic menuing > system, inlcuding possibly the linecode as well. > > The other thing that I've seen before is that the correct > timeslots aren't > mapped through to the x.21 card in the NTU. All things that > relate back to > the NTU, and how it's configured that may not be able to be confirmed > remotely by the Telco network management stations. > > Just an idea, mind. Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong. > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: [ISOCNZ-L] Whois server appears?
by 2Day Operations 25 Nov '99

25 Nov '99

Domainz has announced whois access to the .nz registry at whois.domainz.net.nz http://www.domainz.net.nz/reference/whois.htm Unfortunately it says:- a) Its a trial b) DOMAINZ cannot guarantee accuracy of data I'll ignore the terms of use for the time being. It appears as its a trial, it may be removed without notice. The query results may not be accurate, and there is no way of telling when they are or not The silly thing is that DOMAINZ say the definitive source is the web site CGI which probably is reading the same dataset. We are not interested in a trial that may return bad data. We want a real whois. How can industry have confidence in ISOCNZ when this is all they can come up with? regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[Fwd: Fwd: FCC Approves Line Sharing 11/18/1999]
by Roger De Salis 25 Nov '99

25 Nov '99

It is worth considering this story, in the light of the communications regimen NZ currently finds itself in. I have (almost - lets not get too excited) enjoyed the rational, and carefully worded proposals from David Farrar, Rick Shera and Jim Higgins on how the Internet Society might evolve. I would personally love to perhaps redirect some of the effort being poured into administrative minutiae, to try to get some politicians to understand the implications of the knowledge economy, and how the easy access to the knowledge economy is incredibly important to areas of the country that find themselves significantly disadvantaged (eg the decline of the rural economy). David - persuade one politician a day...... This country needs to build a very high speed, low cost communications network with Universal access in the same way that it needed to build railways in the last century, and roads and airports in this. Then where you develop idea's, software, written material and interleectual property does not matter one iota. -- \_ Roger De Salis Cisco Systems NZ Ltd </' +64 25 481 452 L3, 117 Customhouse Qy /) +64 4 473 4912 Wellington, New Zealand (/ roger(a)desalis.gen.nz rdesalis(a)cisco.com `

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a channelized E1 problem
by Dennis Su 25 Nov '99

25 Nov '99

Hi, We are having a mysterious problem with a channelized E1. I am wondering if you have any clue. Any input would be very much appreciated. We have been trying to commission a new 512K leased circuit but not successful. At the central end the NTU(CSU/DSU) is connected to a Synchronous serial port on AS5200 via X21. At the branch end the NTU is connected to a Balanced Channelized E1 port on 3620 via G.703 RJ-45. We have done loopback test and located the source of problem. It's between the 3620 and NTU at branch. We brought back the 120-Ohm RJ-45 cable and checked the cable OK. And Telecom has double-checked the circuit as well. It seems that the router is not talking to NTU at all. I have listed the router config and the output of show controller etc. The IOS is 11.3(3). -------------------------- controller E1 1/0 framing crc4 linecode hdb3 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-8 description Channelized E1 interface Serial1/0:0 ip address XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX 255.255.255.252 no ip mroute-cache bandwidth 512 priority-group 1 -------------------------------- #sho controllers e1 E1 1/0 is down. Applique type is Channelized E1 - balanced Description: Channelized E1 Transmitter is sending remote alarm. Receiver has loss of signal. Framing is CRC4, Line Code is HDB3, Clock Source is Line. Data in current interval (804 seconds elapsed): 0 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations 0 Slip Secs, 804 Fr Loss Secs, 0 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins 0 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 804 Unavail Secs Total Data (last 24 hours) 1 Line Code Violations, 0 Path Code Violations, 0 Slip Secs, 86254 Fr Loss Secs, 1 Line Err Secs, 0 Degraded Mins, 1 Errored Secs, 0 Bursty Err Secs, 0 Severely Err Secs, 86254 Unavail Secs ---------------------------------------------------- Tauranga>sho int serial 1/0:0 Serial1/0:0 is down, line protocol is down Hardware is DSX1 Internet address is XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/30 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 512 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec, rely 252/255, load 1/255 Encapsulation HDLC, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) Last input 02:31:00, output 02:31:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 02:15:20 Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: priority-list 1 Output queue: high 0/20/0, medium 0/40/0, normal 0/60/0, low 0/80/0 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 270 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 4 carrier transitions Timeslot(s) Used:1-8, Transmitter delay is 0 flags Regards, Dennis --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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by None 24 Nov '99

24 Nov '99

KAA05223 for <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:37:40 +1300 Received: (from deanp(a)localhost) by slave.ascend.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) id IAA21800; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:36:36 +1100 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:36:35 +1100 From: Dean Pemberton <dp(a)lucent.com> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fwd: FCC Approves Line Sharing 11/18/1999] Message-ID: <19991125083635.F19605(a)slave.ascend.com.au> References: <EDFD920FC713D31186FF0008C7731C0E717310(a)WNANT21.moc.govt.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <EDFD920FC713D31186FF0008C7731C0E717310(a)WNANT21.moc.govt.nz>; = from Frank March on Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 02:22:09PM +1300 X-confirm-reading-to: "Dean Pemberton" <dp(a)lucent.com> X-files: Trust No One [I've cut down the distribution list bacause I don't subscribe to isocnz = and crossposting is bad M-kay] On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 02:22:09PM +1300, Frank March wrote: >=20 > I do have some problems with what Josh Bailey has to say. Who is paying = for > the Cisco in the pizza parlour? I doubt if it is a government initiative;= be > it Californian or Federal. There has been some interesting stuff put = out by > Paul Budde recently (see the most recent 'Friday Fryup' from Russell = Brown) > about the impact (or lack) of NZ's telecommunications competition policy = and > has some bearing on the comment about the cost of 64K circuits in NZ. > (Albeit, these comments are not really accepted in the place that I = work.) Who's paying for it is not the point that Josh is trying to make. The point is that it's being done. > Note that 64K circuits have never cost US$30K/m in NZ ... China had, and > still has, some way to do to catch up, frankly. >=20 Catch up to who? I have actually spent time in China both installing and maintaining their Internet backbone and I can say for sure that it's miles ahead of the infrastructure in place in NZ. They have fibre links to places so far-flung and disgusting I wouldn't = build a toilet there (although to be fair, neither did they =3D) ) In fact I can think of 3 other Asian countries that I have working relationships with who have latched onto the `Net' and sped ahead of NZ. = How many years has NZ had at this? I'm no historian but it's more than 15. = Some of these other countries have only been at this for 2-3 years and they are miles ahead. New Zealand can languish back and blame the small population or lack of government involvement or space aliens from mars. But at the end of the = day it's just whinging. Get on with it. > In commenting on the 'aisle' of Ciscos observed in Korea: it is perhaps > possible that Telecom NZ has such as facility, I do not know. I am not > aware of a serious lack of overseas data capacity for New Zealand at = present > (I would be very interested to know if there is in fact such a lack of > capacity). The future seems reasonably secure with the prospect of the > Southern Cross cable opening next year (increasing present overseas data > carrying capacity by a factor of 100, I believe). For what NZ'ers use it for sure. Why do you think other countries are installing OC-48 links everywhere? It's not just because they have more = users. In many cases it is because they have a different model to work from. In NZ you are encouraged to use the net with one hand and slapped on the = wrist with the other. It's frowned upon. ``You used over your free quota'' ``You are a high bandwidth user''=20 ``You downloaded too much'' ``Ohhh That high speed link is very expensive'' etc This sort of attitude stunts growth. =20 I have seen startup companies overseas doing things that would be = impossible with the telecommunications infrastructure in NZ, just because of this attitude. If you don't have the capacity then upgrade. =20 Hell I know a company not too far away from where I'm sitting that could provide a shit kicking infrastructure for NZ, just on the yearly profit of = a major NZ telco. I'm sure Roger knows one too. Contrast this attitude with the following examples Texas - ISDN is flatrate India - Government moving towards providing free ISDN installs and usage = to promote internet use. NZ - bleeding every last cent out of it's population for even adaquate = access. >=20 > There are serious bandwidth users in NZ. While I do not personally wish = to > carry any particular flame for Telecom NZ, I do know that Peter Jackson = has > had very good co-operation in having his on and off shore needs for very > large bandwidth met by them (no doubt at a cost!). >=20 See Above. But I'm sure that TNZ would be more than happy to lease me a pair of dark = fibre if I were on a movie making budget. Thats not really the point is it? = The point is not really how much bandwidth there is it's how accessable this bandwidth is to the everyday person. > The Internet in NZ has (& is) expanded (ing) very quickly. NZ has one = of > the top 10 Internet penetrations in the world (ahead of Australia, all = of > middle and southern Europe and miles ahead of Korea and the rest of = Asia). Sometimes penetration is not a very accurate measure of things. Imagine a small island in the South Pacific which has a population of ten people. Six of them have Internet access. WOW thats 60%, best we call = this country the most developed on the planet due to it's Internet penetration. Just because a third of the country has cellphones doesn't mean that NZ is = on the leading edge of cellular technology (Telecom is still dragging itself = out of the analog world for heavens sake). Similarly, just because a large percentage of the population has Internet access does not mean that they are doing anything greater with it than = reading email and looking at the web. How many houses do you think host their own content in NZ? How many stream video? How many on sell value added net services? How many (outside Wellington) have all their services (Phone, net, TV) = provided on a single digital feed? These are the sort of stats that tell the real story. I'd be interested in a statistic that measured how much bandwidth the = average person in a country had access to for the average wage. MAN! NZ wouldn't = be in the top ten of that one. > I am also very > concerned about the apparent denigration of the need to develop and = focus on > post industrial economic models for NZ (ie the knowledge economy) by = both > politicians and media commentators in the current election campaign. > Because the public doesn't care. This goes back to what Josh was saying = about the culture being different in NZ. A Political party who stood up and = said that they would give free Internet to every home in NZ would only be = talking to a fringe factor slightly larger than if their stance was to abolish the = student loan debt. Huge chunks of the public really don't give a toss. Take Coronation Street off the air for a couple of days on the other = hand... =20 > But, Josh, if you really have a concern it has to be better directed and > expressed than the comments you make in your post. I don't think he cares really. He just had something to say. I don't = think he's running for office, although anyone can be a Congressman these days = =3D). Don't get me wrong in all this. I'm proud to be a Kiwi. I promote NZ in = a favourable way everywhere I go in the world. I just think that in this = case they are lagging behind. Dean --=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dean Pemberton - dp(a)lucent.com Escalation Engineer with the Company Formally Known As Ascend Lucent Technologies - Lvl 38, 55 Collins St, Melbourne 3000, Australia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- =20 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZNOG Administrator's Note
by Donald Neal 24 Nov '99

24 Nov '99

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