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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9889 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Maximum Internet Ltd - AS9889 members: 123.100.64.0/18^18-29, 124.198.128.0/18^18-29, 202.89.32.0/19^19-29, 203.89.160.0/19^19-29, 114.134.160.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 114.134.176.0/21^21-29, 119.47.112.0/21^21-29, 202.189.160.0/21^21-29, 113.197.64.0/22^22-29, 122.102.108.0/22^22-29, 210.55.100.0/22^22-29, 210.55.104.0/22^22-29, 117.53.150.0/23^23-29, 202.49.88.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 210.54.142.0/23^23-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 202.6.5.0/24^24-29, 202.27.8.0/24^24-29, 202.27.204.0/24^24-29, 202.36.70.0/24^24-29, 202.36.227.0/24^24-29, 202.37.72.0/24^24-29, 202.37.162.0/24^24-29, 202.37.181.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.150.102.0/24^24-29, 203.12.15.0/24^24-29, 203.97.42.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.13.0/24^24-29, 210.55.169.0/24^24-29, 210.55.214.0/24^24-29, 210.55.230.0/24^24-29, 203.167.219.56/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)maxnet.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20081219 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9889 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Maximum Internet Ltd - AS9889 members: 123.100.64.0/18^18-29, 124.198.128.0/18^18-29, 202.89.32.0/19^19-29, 203.89.160.0/19^19-29, 112.109.64.0/20^20-29, 114.134.160.0/20^20-29, 119.47.112.0/20^20-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 112.109.80.0/21^21-29, 114.134.176.0/21^21-29, 202.189.160.0/21^21-29, 113.197.64.0/22^22-29, 122.102.108.0/22^22-29, 210.55.100.0/22^22-29, 210.55.104.0/22^22-29, 117.53.150.0/23^23-29, 202.49.88.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 210.54.142.0/23^23-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 202.6.5.0/24^24-29, 202.27.8.0/24^24-29, 202.27.204.0/24^24-29, 202.36.70.0/24^24-29, 202.36.227.0/24^24-29, 202.37.72.0/24^24-29, 202.37.162.0/24^24-29, 202.37.181.0/24^24-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.150.102.0/24^24-29, 203.12.15.0/24^24-29, 203.97.42.0/24^24-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.54.13.0/24^24-29, 210.55.169.0/24^24-29, 210.55.214.0/24^24-29, 210.55.230.0/24^24-29, 203.167.219.56/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)maxnet.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090212 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 10 Feb '09

10 Feb '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS42 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by PCH1 - AS42 members: 192.36.148.0/24^24-29, 194.146.106.0/24^24-29, 194.146.107.0/24^24-29, 194.146.108.0/24^24-29, 199.7.77.0/24^24-29, 199.7.64.0/24^24-29, 204.61.210.0/24^24-29, 204.61.210.0/23^23-29, 204.61.212.0/23^23-29, 204.61.216.0/23^23-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: scg(a)pch.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050302 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS42 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Packet Clearing House - AS42 members: 74.80.64.0/18^18-29, 199.249.112.0/20^20-29, 204.61.216.0/23^23-29, 198.182.167.0/24^24-29, 199.7.64.0/24^24-29, 199.7.77.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)pch.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090211 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Nominations for APNIC Executive Council closes soon
by Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi 05 Feb '09

05 Feb '09

_______________________________________________________________________ Nominations for APNIC Executive Council closes soon _______________________________________________________________________ Nominations for four positions open for election on the APNIC Executive Council (EC) will close on 13 February 2009 (17:30 UTC+10). Nominees do not have to be representatives of members, but only APNIC members may nominate and vote for candidates. The EC positions up for reelection are Kuo Wei Wu, Kusumba Sridhar, Mao Wei, and Ming-Cheng Liang. Nominations must be made using the online nomination form: http://meetings.apnic.net/elections/nominate.html The election will be held at APNIC 27 on Friday, 27 Febrary 2009. For more information on nominations received, proxy registration, current EC members, and the role of the EC, please refer to: http://meetings.apnic.net/elections/about/index.html Nominees should note that positions on the APNIC EC are currently voluntary and that APNIC may not be able to reimburse EC members all expenses associated with EC duties. Where possible, however, APNIC will reimburse actual expenses for attendance at APNIC meetings, providing that these fall within budget and cash flow constraints. If you have any questions, please contact the APNIC Secretariat at: secretariat(a)apnic.net Regards, -------------------------------------------------------------------- Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi email: sunny(a)apnic.net External Relations Manager, APNIC sip: sunny(a)voip.apnic.net http://www.apnic.net ph/fx: +61 7 3858 3100/99 ____________________________________________________________________ * Join us for APNIC 27 in Manila, 23-27 February 2009! * A fun week of workshops, seminars, and policy discussion awaits! * * For more information, see: http://meetings.apnic.net ____________________________________________________________________

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Telstra Fibre Outage?
by Chris Hodgetts 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Anyone else experiencing any issues with Telstra Clear fibre?

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Looking for Cisco1841 Rack Ears.
by Dean Pemberton 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Hi all. Does anyone have a set of rack ears which would fit a Cisco1841. Willing to exchange for cash or beer (see this post is AUP compliment now too). Thanks Dean

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Wellington Power Outage
by Joel Wiramu Pauling 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Just to show some solidarity, there is a power outage currently in parts of Wellington. NEC house (Manners/Taranaki) and the WCC/Library building are affected. The information I have just states it was cut due to a Transformer issue and are stating up to 4 hours before it is restored. -JoelW

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Widespread Auckland Power Outage 2009-02-03
by Jonathan Brewer 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Hi Folks, Starting around 13:06 this afternoon, a number of parts of Auckland lost power. At a glance, I saw some of our monitored subscribers with unprotected (or underprotected) devices go down in: Ellerslie Mt. Richmond Newmarket Otahuhu Parnell Penrose Westfield Regards, Jon

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- NEW OBJECT CREATION: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9733 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Netspace Services - AS9733 members: 210.4.208.0/21^21-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: gerard(a)netspace.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090204 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [nznog] Widespread Auckland Power Outage 2009-02-03 (fwd)
by Mark Foster 02 Feb '09

02 Feb '09

Mind your reply-to's, Joel :) Forwarded as intended for the list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:59:45 +1300 From: Joel Wiramu Pauling <aenertia(a)aenertia.net> To: Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> Subject: Re: [nznog] Widespread Auckland Power Outage 2009-02-03 Out of curiosity how many people on this list have Sustainable UPS collection/top up schemes in place in parts of their networks. I.e Solar/Wind feeders to battery units? I know diesel generators are the norm, but I have also seen solar array powered gear work pretty well (NZ Wireless I believe have Solar fed battery arrays on their Somes Island AP). -JoelW 2009/2/3 Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net>: > > > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Patrick Jordan-Smith wrote: > >> >> On 3/02/2009, at 3:43 PM, Nicholas Lee wrote: >> >>> You would think that Transpower would learn not do work to critical >>> systems in the middle of a hot day when it would be a peak. >> >> Personally I'd prefer to have the time when there is risk of power >> cuts during the day - at least there is a big light in the sky (most >> days.) Much easier than trying to find the candles when the power cuts >> out at 10pm and it all goes dark. Much easier to deal with traffic >> issues. >> > > Yes, and people are at work to deal with the ramifications, instead of > being on callback/overtime and delayed to respond... > > After all, UPS is just brownout protection, right? > > :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 01 Feb '09

01 Feb '09

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. It consists of the subscribers to this mailing list. The group is intended to facilitate discussion among operators of networks in New Zealand on matters relevant to network operators as described in the list's Acceptable Use Policy. That policy appears later in this posting. Conference See http://2009.nznog.org/ for details of the conference just finished. The plan is that next year's conference will be further south than Auckland. Discussions are now being held with prospective hosts, so if you have a burning desire to host New Zealand's only technical networking conference, now would be the time to speak up. Other Meetings See http://thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=6 for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.nzix.net/ for details of exchanges in operation. About This Mailing List This list has around 1000 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of APN Online, Citylink, and The University of Waikato. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ . Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins -- Donald Neal | "Careful design and strict discipline are Research Officer | necessary to prevent this sort of mess WAND | from escaping the development laboratory The University of Waikato | and infesting the production environment." | - D. Russell

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Outage at iPrimus Datacentre - 55 King St, Melbourne
by Skeeve Stevens 31 Jan '09

31 Jan '09

Hey all, Little detail at present... but the iPrimus DC in 55 King St Melbourne seems to have had a complete failure. Power, UPS and Generator have apparently all failed. Anyone else have more detail, feel free to follow up. ...Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve -- NOC, NOC, who's there? Disclaimer: Limits of Liability and Disclaimer: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. eintellego Pty Ltd and each legal entity in the Tefilah Pty Ltd group of companies reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Any reference to costs, fee quotations, contractual transactions and variations to contract terms is subject to separate confirmation in writing signed by an authorised representative of eintellego. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, we cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or compatible with your systems and do not accept any liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced.

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG streams...
by Richard Naylor 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

At 11:06 a.m. 28/01/2009, Neil Gardner wrote: >OK, you've all got a lot uglier and the format of the conference is >significantly different this year... > >I don't for example, recall anyone leading conference speakers around >in a ring while they were dressed in horse costumes. > >Additionally, the discussion on BGP for resilient services sounded a >lot more like a horsie auction than I expected. Classic !!! I confess - we recycle URLs. The NZNOG streams will be sorted tonight after we finish setting up and the bandwidth works. The horses are actually live on another 2 streams. NZNOG will have 4 and a test link to Manila has one. and as of 10:30 this morning, the Reserve Bank has another one. So let me apologise in advance if the NZNOG opening ceremony is a little less than expected. At 0900 when RBNZ announce a new cash rate, I'm live switching the feed from the van at NZNOG. I could either get this right or horribly wrong..............

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NZNOG streams...
by Neil Gardner 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

OK, you've all got a lot uglier and the format of the conference is significantly different this year... I don't for example, recall anyone leading conference speakers around in a ring while they were dressed in horse costumes. Additionally, the discussion on BGP for resilient services sounded a lot more like a horsie auction than I expected. Are the NZnog streams up anywhere? Yes I followed the links on the NZnog site... http://2009.nznog.org/streaming Cheers - N

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 24
by Jeff Sutton - AKBREW 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

-----Original Message----- From: nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:07 a.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: NZNOG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 24 Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz You can reach the person managing the list at nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Juniper J2320, rate limit based on bgp community (national/international) (Truman Boyes) 2. Re: Juniper J2320, rate limit based on bgp community (national/international) (Barry Murphy) 3. Vendor reception at NZNOG - Open to all (Nathan Ward) 4. Re: Vendor reception at NZNOG - Open to all (Neil Gardner) 5. Re: Vendor reception at NZNOG - Open to all (Nathan Ward) 6. NZRR Route Registry Update (NZRR Database Notifications) 7. NZRR Route Registry Update (NZRR Database Notifications) 8. NZNOG IRC Channel (Mark Foster) 9. Re: NZNOG IRC Channel (Scott Howard) 10. NZNOG streams... (Neil Gardner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:56:25 +1100 From: Truman Boyes <truman(a)suspicious.org> Subject: Re: [nznog] Juniper J2320, rate limit based on bgp community (national/international) To: Craig Spiers <Craig.Spiers(a)staff.solarix.co.nz> Cc: Nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <85A47E88-60DA-40BA-8DDE-9DF52A11142E(a)suspicious.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hey there, What you want is destination class policing / source class policing based on destination class usage (DCU) This allows you to have policing based on BGP communities instead of managing prefix lists. This is supported on J-series since 8.5R1. Basically you want to: 1. apply bgp communities to routes learned from specific peers (international tag, domestic tag, etc). 2. write a policy that matches on tagged routes, and has an action of 'then destination-class INTERNATIONAL' etc... 3. apply the policy as as export policy to the forwarding-table. 4. configure accounting for destination-class-usage on interfaces that you wish to collect account for ... 5. configure a firewall filter that matches on destination-class and polices traffic to the correct rate. I can unicast you some configs once I dig them up from back in the day. DCU/DCP is a highly scalable way to provide differentiated accounting / policing for specific aggregate services. I have seen this deployed with 40+ regional zones. Cheers, Truman Boyes On 22/01/2009, at 2:21 PM, Craig Spiers wrote: > Hi All.. > > To try and better explain what barry is trying to do.. hes trying to > traffic shape certain IP addresses on his network based on the BGP > community a specific route is a member of.. > > Eg domestic traffic is a member of community 100 and international is > 200 > > Eg 1.2.3.4 on his network communicating with a route dest in community > 100 = 128k > Eg 1.2.3.4 on his network communicating with a route dest in community > 200 = 64k > > I do this on our cisco's using BGP with ip-qos-map's and a service > policy on the interface.. hes looking for the juniper equivalent.. > > Any ideas? > > > Kind Regards, > > Craig Spiers - Network Manager > Solarix Limited > DDI: +64 9 974 4753 | FAX: +64 9 523 8057 FAULTS: 0800 89 41 42 > MOB: +64 21 857 183 | email: craig.spiers(a)staff.solarix.co.nz > The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential > and > intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient > you > are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or > make > > use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy > this > email and contact the sender immediately. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Murphy [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz] > Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 3:42 p.m. > To: Nznog > Subject: [nznog] Juniper J2320,rate limit based on bgp community > (national/international) > > Hey Guys, > > Hope this fits in with the AUP, however I'd hope so as not many forums > show > how to rate-limit based on national/international traffic as they > don't > bill accordingly, however in NZ this is standard practice so hoping > someone > with juniper knowledge can assist me here. > > Basically I want to allow all traffic to/from national without > rate-limit, > then restrict international, for eg 128k. > > icepick(a)NCCORE01# show firewall > policer 128k { > if-exceeding { > bandwidth-limit 128k; > burst-size-limit 4500; > } > then discard; > } > filter 128k { > term 1 { > from { > forwarding-class assured-forwarding; > } > then accept; > } > term 2 { > from { > forwarding-class best-effort; > } > then { > policer 128k; > accept; > } > } > } > > > > icepick(a)NCCORE01# show policy-options policy-statement Orcon-Primary- > In > term 1 { > from community [ Orcon-Local Orcon-National Orcon-Peering > Orcon-Telstra > Orcon-Telecom ]; > then { > local-preference 110; > forwarding-class assured-forwarding; > accept; > } > } > term 2 { > from { > route-filter 0.0.0.0/0 upto /24; > } > then { > local-preference 110; > forwarding-class best-effort; > accept; > } > } > term 3 { > from { > route-filter 0.0.0.0/0 exact; > } > then { > local-preference 120; > accept; > } > } > term 4 { > then reject; > } > > > icepick(a)NCCORE01# show interfaces ge-0/0/1 unit 55 > description "Test interface"; > vlan-id 55; > family inet { > filter { > input 128k; > output 128k; > } > address 113.21.x.x/29; > } > > > The problem I'm running into is all traffic is being rate-limited at > 128k, > rather than just the international. I was able to find one example > located > at > http://archives.devshed.com/forums/networking-100/policer-based-on-commu > nity-2015343.html > however this describes the use of destination-class where I only have > forwarding-class so I'm not sure if this has been depreciated or > renamed > or > not supported by J2320. > > I understand this may be a question for JTAC, however I'd like to hear > from > users here in NZ that have managed to get this going with junos. To > keep > the list sane, please reply offlist, if many people are interested > I'll > post the working solution after being tested for archive purposes. > > Public holiday for Aucklanders next monday, extra long weekend of > beer, > mmmmm > > Thanks > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:02:09 +1300 From: Barry Murphy <barry(a)unix.co.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] Juniper J2320, rate limit based on bgp community (national/international) To: Truman Boyes <truman(a)suspicious.org> Cc: Craig Spiers <Craig.Spiers(a)staff.solarix.co.nz>, Nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <42d6b86dda5ad39384980a4346e7b3ce(a)localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Truman, Yes this was how I planned to do it, if you note my second to last paragraph, my J2320 doesn't seem to have destination-class available at the policer level. Thanks Barry On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:56:25 +1100, Truman Boyes <truman(a)suspicious.org> wrote: > Hey there, > > What you want is destination class policing / source class policing > based on destination class usage (DCU) This allows you to have > policing based on BGP communities instead of managing prefix lists. > This is supported on J-series since 8.5R1. > > Basically you want to: > > 1. apply bgp communities to routes learned from specific peers > (international tag, domestic tag, etc). > 2. write a policy that matches on tagged routes, and has an action of > 'then destination-class INTERNATIONAL' etc... > 3. apply the policy as as export policy to the forwarding-table. > 4. configure accounting for destination-class-usage on interfaces that > you wish to collect account for ... > 5. configure a firewall filter that matches on destination-class and > polices traffic to the correct rate. > > I can unicast you some configs once I dig them up from back in the day. > > DCU/DCP is a highly scalable way to provide differentiated > accounting / policing for specific aggregate services. I have seen > this deployed with 40+ regional zones. > > Cheers, > Truman Boyes > > > > On 22/01/2009, at 2:21 PM, Craig Spiers wrote: > >> Hi All.. >> >> To try and better explain what barry is trying to do.. hes trying to >> traffic shape certain IP addresses on his network based on the BGP >> community a specific route is a member of.. >> >> Eg domestic traffic is a member of community 100 and international is >> 200 >> >> Eg 1.2.3.4 on his network communicating with a route dest in community >> 100 = 128k >> Eg 1.2.3.4 on his network communicating with a route dest in community >> 200 = 64k >> >> I do this on our cisco's using BGP with ip-qos-map's and a service >> policy on the interface.. hes looking for the juniper equivalent.. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Craig Spiers - Network Manager >> Solarix Limited >> DDI: +64 9 974 4753 | FAX: +64 9 523 8057 FAULTS: 0800 89 41 42 >> MOB: +64 21 857 183 | email: craig.spiers(a)staff.solarix.co.nz >> The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential >> and >> intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient >> you >> are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or >> make >> >> use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy >> this >> email and contact the sender immediately. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barry Murphy [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz] >> Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 3:42 p.m. >> To: Nznog >> Subject: [nznog] Juniper J2320,rate limit based on bgp community >> (national/international) >> >> Hey Guys, >> >> Hope this fits in with the AUP, however I'd hope so as not many forums >> show >> how to rate-limit based on national/international traffic as they >> don't >> bill accordingly, however in NZ this is standard practice so hoping >> someone >> with juniper knowledge can assist me here. >> >> Basically I want to allow all traffic to/from national without >> rate-limit, >> then restrict international, for eg 128k. >> >> icepick(a)NCCORE01# show firewall >> policer 128k { >> if-exceeding { >> bandwidth-limit 128k; >> burst-size-limit 4500; >> } >> then discard; >> } >> filter 128k { >> term 1 { >> from { >> forwarding-class assured-forwarding; >> } >> then accept; >> } >> term 2 { >> from { >> forwarding-class best-effort; >> } >> then { >> policer 128k; >> accept; >> } >> } >> } >> >> >> >> icepick(a)NCCORE01# show policy-options policy-statement Orcon-Primary- >> In >> term 1 { >> from community [ Orcon-Local Orcon-National Orcon-Peering >> Orcon-Telstra >> Orcon-Telecom ]; >> then { >> local-preference 110; >> forwarding-class assured-forwarding; >> accept; >> } >> } >> term 2 { >> from { >> route-filter 0.0.0.0/0 upto /24; >> } >> then { >> local-preference 110; >> forwarding-class best-effort; >> accept; >> } >> } >> term 3 { >> from { >> route-filter 0.0.0.0/0 exact; >> } >> then { >> local-preference 120; >> accept; >> } >> } >> term 4 { >> then reject; >> } >> >> >> icepick(a)NCCORE01# show interfaces ge-0/0/1 unit 55 >> description "Test interface"; >> vlan-id 55; >> family inet { >> filter { >> input 128k; >> output 128k; >> } >> address 113.21.x.x/29; >> } >> >> >> The problem I'm running into is all traffic is being rate-limited at >> 128k, >> rather than just the international. I was able to find one example >> located >> at >> http://archives.devshed.com/forums/networking-100/policer-based-on-commu >> nity-2015343.html >> however this describes the use of destination-class where I only have >> forwarding-class so I'm not sure if this has been depreciated or >> renamed >> or >> not supported by J2320. >> >> I understand this may be a question for JTAC, however I'd like to hear >> from >> users here in NZ that have managed to get this going with junos. To >> keep >> the list sane, please reply offlist, if many people are interested >> I'll >> post the working solution after being tested for archive purposes. >> >> Public holiday for Aucklanders next monday, extra long weekend of >> beer, >> mmmmm >> >> Thanks >> Barry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NZNOG mailing list >> NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >> _______________________________________________ >> NZNOG mailing list >> NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog >> > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:33:01 +1300 From: Nathan Ward <nznog(a)daork.net> Subject: [nznog] Vendor reception at NZNOG - Open to all To: nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <17CA2F72-294E-4358-BB5E-06FBF51F83BF(a)daork.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi all, Wednesday night we are running a "vendor reception", similar to the "gear and beer" evenings at NANOG. Renaissance have generously made a prize available for the evening - an iPod Nano. This will be an open bar, with finger food. Network operators and related parties can attend - even people who are not attending the main conference. Please bring some business cards - one for to go in the prize jar, and one to put in your name tag holder if you are not a conference attendee. Please RSVP to info(a)nznog.org and let us know if you are attending, and also anyone you are bringing with you so we can put you on some kind of list. It would be great to see you here, to get a taste of the NZNOG conference, and a drink or two[1]. -- Nathan Ward [1] or three. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:47:30 +1300 From: Neil Gardner <nznog(a)neilnz.com> Subject: Re: [nznog] Vendor reception at NZNOG - Open to all To: nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <632d599d0901261747n2388b020xdfdb1083b02857a2(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been politely waiting, and mid afternoon on the day before the conference seems like a reasonable time to ask again... What's the deal with streaming of the conference talks / discussions / full and frank exchange of view sessions? Cheers - N ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:34:54 +1300 From: Nathan Ward <nznog(a)daork.net> Subject: Re: [nznog] Vendor reception at NZNOG - Open to all To: nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <58FF2B25-CBDE-4975-8063-5397D65B9B2A(a)daork.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On 27/01/2009, at 2:47 PM, Neil Gardner wrote: > I've been politely waiting, and mid afternoon on the day before the > conference seems like a reasonable time to ask again... > > What's the deal with streaming of the conference talks / discussions / > full and frank exchange of view sessions? R2 are doing streaming, as per usual. I'm pretty sure we've said that on the list already. This will be for the main conference, not the tutorial days. So, Thurs+Fri. We have microphones, plus microphones for anyone asking questions. -- Nathan Ward ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:08:54 +1300 From: NZRR Database Notifications <rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net> Subject: [nznog] NZRR Route Registry Update To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Message-ID: <E1LReJq-0003lj-IU(a)totti.citylink.co.nz> Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9560 by WorldxChange Communications Ltd - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.204.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070824 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9560 by WorldxChange Communications LTD - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.240.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 203.171.223.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090127 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:22:11 +1300 From: NZRR Database Notifications <rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net> Subject: [nznog] NZRR Route Registry Update To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Message-ID: <E1LReWh-0004Pr-B6(a)totti.citylink.co.nz> Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9439 by WorldxChange Communications Ltd - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.204.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070824 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9439 by WorldxChange Communications LTD - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.240.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 203.171.223.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090127 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:36:06 +1300 (NZDT) From: Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> Subject: [nznog] NZNOG IRC Channel To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0901272233100.27157(a)skyhawk.blakjak.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi all A headsup that #NZNOG on the Undernet IRC Network is open for NZNOG'rs to lurk in, and to perhaps provide some means of interaction between those that are here and those that, well, aren't. the DNS aliases us.undernet.org and eu.undernet.org are likely suspects if you dont know any other valid server addresses to try to connect to. See you there, Mark. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:57:20 -0800 From: Scott Howard <scott(a)doc.net.au> Subject: Re: [nznog] NZNOG IRC Channel To: Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Message-ID: <f1dedf9c0901271257l68036743ud3ddbc4521f20393(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> wrote: > the DNS aliases us.undernet.org and eu.undernet.org are likely suspects if > you dont know any other valid server addresses to try to connect to. Or even the far more relevant nz.undernet.org :) (Sure, it's just a CNAME to "us", but that's not the point...) Scott

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NZNOG IRC Channel
by Mark Foster 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

Hi all A headsup that #NZNOG on the Undernet IRC Network is open for NZNOG'rs to lurk in, and to perhaps provide some means of interaction between those that are here and those that, well, aren't. the DNS aliases us.undernet.org and eu.undernet.org are likely suspects if you dont know any other valid server addresses to try to connect to. See you there, Mark.

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9439 by WorldxChange Communications Ltd - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.204.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070824 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9439 by WorldxChange Communications LTD - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.240.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 203.171.223.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090127 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9560 by WorldxChange Communications Ltd - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.204.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070824 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17435 descr: advertised to AS9560 by WorldxChange Communications LTD - AS17435 members: 58.28.0.0/16^16-29, 118.90.0.0/16^16-29, 202.49.240.0/22^22-29, 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.49.59.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 203.171.223.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: cbarr(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090127 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Vendor reception at NZNOG - Open to all
by Nathan Ward 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hi all, Wednesday night we are running a "vendor reception", similar to the "gear and beer" evenings at NANOG. Renaissance have generously made a prize available for the evening - an iPod Nano. This will be an open bar, with finger food. Network operators and related parties can attend - even people who are not attending the main conference. Please bring some business cards - one for to go in the prize jar, and one to put in your name tag holder if you are not a conference attendee. Please RSVP to info(a)nznog.org and let us know if you are attending, and also anyone you are bringing with you so we can put you on some kind of list. It would be great to see you here, to get a taste of the NZNOG conference, and a drink or two[1]. -- Nathan Ward [1] or three.

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Juniper J2320, rate limit based on bgp community (national/international)
by Barry Murphy 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

Hey Guys, Hope this fits in with the AUP, however I'd hope so as not many forums show how to rate-limit based on national/international traffic as they don't bill accordingly, however in NZ this is standard practice so hoping someone with juniper knowledge can assist me here. Basically I want to allow all traffic to/from national without rate-limit, then restrict international, for eg 128k. icepick(a)NCCORE01# show firewall policer 128k { if-exceeding { bandwidth-limit 128k; burst-size-limit 4500; } then discard; } filter 128k { term 1 { from { forwarding-class assured-forwarding; } then accept; } term 2 { from { forwarding-class best-effort; } then { policer 128k; accept; } } } icepick(a)NCCORE01# show policy-options policy-statement Orcon-Primary-In term 1 { from community [ Orcon-Local Orcon-National Orcon-Peering Orcon-Telstra Orcon-Telecom ]; then { local-preference 110; forwarding-class assured-forwarding; accept; } } term 2 { from { route-filter 0.0.0.0/0 upto /24; } then { local-preference 110; forwarding-class best-effort; accept; } } term 3 { from { route-filter 0.0.0.0/0 exact; } then { local-preference 120; accept; } } term 4 { then reject; } icepick(a)NCCORE01# show interfaces ge-0/0/1 unit 55 description "Test interface"; vlan-id 55; family inet { filter { input 128k; output 128k; } address 113.21.x.x/29; } The problem I'm running into is all traffic is being rate-limited at 128k, rather than just the international. I was able to find one example located at http://archives.devshed.com/forums/networking-100/policer-based-on-communit… however this describes the use of destination-class where I only have forwarding-class so I'm not sure if this has been depreciated or renamed or not supported by J2320. I understand this may be a question for JTAC, however I'd like to hear from users here in NZ that have managed to get this going with junos. To keep the list sane, please reply offlist, if many people are interested I'll post the working solution after being tested for archive purposes. Public holiday for Aucklanders next monday, extra long weekend of beer, mmmmm Thanks Barry

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System Administrators Miniconf draft schedule
by Ewen McNeill 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

The NZNOG 2009 conference starts tomorrow (Wed 2009-01-28) with the tutorial day, including the System Administrators Miniconf. As previously announced the System Administrators Miniconf is being held in more of a BoF style (shorter intro talks, more discussion) with a more flexible schedule than previous years. But for the benefit of those who are hoping to switch back and forth between tutorials, this is approximately what we intend to have in terms of ordering and timing: -=- cut here -=- Intro/Welcome Ewen McNeill: Scaling System and Network monitoring Peter Mott: VMware in a production environment Jonny Martin: PCH VMWare Platform * Morning Tea * Amos Jeffries: Squid web caching Michael Robinsion: Configuration automation (puppet, cfengine, etc) Jonny Martin: ENUM intro -=- cut here -=- About the only thing which is actually fixed is the morning tea (10:30-11:00) and the start (at approximately 09:00). I believe we have the room for at least half a day, and perhaps the full day, so we're open to adding more topics (or a general "problem solving" type BoF) after the things listed above. Ewen

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One room available at the NZNOG venue this week.
by Jonny Martin 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

Hi All, We've had one room become available at the conference venue for this week, it's available for Tuesday through Friday nights. If you still haven't sorted your accommodation out for this week, then you may be in luck. First to reply to me gets it. Cheers, Jonny.

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Xtra DNS Servers
by Jonathan Wood 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

Hi there all, I just got this message from our friends at telecom Dear Customer, On Saturday morning (24 January 2009) an unforeseen technical fault affected some Telecom customers. Broadband and Dial-Up internet connections were working, however you may have had problems accessing Xtra email, as well as some services on the Yahoo!Xtra website. Our technical teams worked swiftly to identify and resolve the problem, and the majority of services were restored by midday. We apologise if you were impacted or inconvenienced by the interruption. Sincerely, The Team at Telecom This email is being sent to you as it is a service related message about products and services you have with Telecom. It is not a promotional email. This email is being sent on behalf of Telecom NZ Ltd by Jericho Ltd. Telecom New Zealand. 8 Hereford Street, Freemans Bay, Auckland 1011, NZ. jonno

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Re: [nznog] Use of .0 and .255 in address pools
by Scott Weeks 25 Jan '09

25 Jan '09

: Curiousity about what people are using as far as : addressing pools these days - lots of /24s (and : excluding the end addresses), or bigger blocks? : More specifically, is anyone handing out the .0 : and .255 addresses, or are there still sufficient : CPE/endpoints out there which cope poorly with : those addresses? :: I've been handing out /23s for years now and have :: had zero problems with the middle 0 and 255. ::: I guess I should qualify my statement. I have ::: been handing out /23s with no problems at all ::: on a eyeball network. Not on a content network. :::: I know Telecom were/are handout out .0 addresses :::: on their 3G connections too. It's a pain Can you elaborate on this? Are you still talking about the 'middle' .0 and .255 IPs of /23s and larger? What troubles have you seen and what kind of mobile devices are you talking about? scott ----------------------------- ----------------------------- -----------------------------

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Re: [nznog] Use of .0 and .255 in address pools
by Scott Weeks 24 Jan '09

24 Jan '09

------ surfer(a)mauigateway.com wrote: ------- ------ ender(a)paradise.gen.nz wrote: -------- Curiousity about what people are using as far as addressing pools these days - lots of /24s (and excluding the end addresses), or bigger blocks? More specifically, is anyone handing out the .0 and .255 addresses, or are there still sufficient CPE/endpoints out there which cope poorly with those addresses? ------------------------------------------ I've been handing out /23s for years now and have had zero problems with the middle 0 and 255. ------------------------------------------- I guess I should qualify my statement. I have been handing out /23s with no problems at all on a eyeball network. Not on a content network. scott ----------------------- ----------------------- -----------------------

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Xtra DNS Servers
by Nick Larsen (ZeroOne Operations) 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

Hi, Is anyone having trouble resolving domains hosted on {alien,terminator}.xtra.co.nz? Xtra's DNS servers seem to have disappeared (at least from the locations I've tried from). Kind regards, Nick Larsen Network Technician DDI +64.4.471.4447 Freephone 0800 ZEROONE Ph +64.4.499.0018 Fax +64.4.499.0019 Address Level 4, United Building. 107 Customhouse Quay, Wellington, New Zealand

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