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Re: Details
by bgreene＠cisco.com 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

Please see the attached file for details.

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Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation
by Michael Hallager 24 Aug '03

24 Aug '03

Hello, That is what you think. You are entitled to your opinion. I have checked my list and there are at least 3 OC3 modules all well under $3,000 NZD. I have had several emails about this today. I am really not interested in getting into a debate with, or answer time-consuming support questions, with people who clearly have no intention of actually buying anything and/or aren't actually trying to learn anything of technical value. I have already been stuffed around this week by an overseas list member, who got me to order in several hundred dollars worth of stuff especially for him, and then as soon as I had done this, he disappeared. I am very happy to assist list members with quick questions or if they want to buy anything. However, like every other business in the NZ computer industry, there is limits. Michael Hallager Networkstuff Limited > Em, not oc3 michael... You wont even get a card for under 10k ! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)networkstuff.co.nz] > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:14 PM > > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > > > > > Not at all. I can offer a Cisco solution that would likely > > leave change out of $5K or $6K. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Michael Hallager > > Networkstuff Ltd > > > > > Oooooh, your clients are in for a bit of a shock. ATM and > > > > low cost do > > > > > not go in the same sentence together. ISPs who have bought Cisco > > > equipment capable of ATM have spent 10s of thousands for > > > > the correct > > > > > ATM card and the modular chassis to go with it. > > > > > > On the other hand, if you are prepared to be a bit experimental you > > > may be able to use a PC installed with Linux and a > > > > supported PCI ATM > > > > > card. I've never seen anyone try it though. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > RH. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > Michael Hallager > > Managing Director > > Networkstuff Limited > > > > URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz > > Networkstuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used > > networking equipment. > > E-Mail: michael @ networkstuff.co.nz > > > > Member of the NZ Open Source Society. > > Member of the Auckland VHF Group. > > Amateur radio callsign: ZL1VMH. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nznog mailing list > > Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog -- Michael Hallager Managing Director Networkstuff Limited URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz Networkstuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment. E-Mail: michael @ networkstuff.co.nz Member of the NZ Open Source Society. Member of the Auckland VHF Group. Amateur radio callsign: ZL1VMH.

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New ADSL products.
by Simon Lyall 22 Aug '03

22 Aug '03

Released: http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=2915&page=index Talk about disapointing. Twice the speed of Jetstart with the download limits and pricing of Jetstream. -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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Prefix-List Update for Net4U Limited (AS23746)
by Sahil Gupta - NET4U LIMITED 22 Aug '03

22 Aug '03

Hi, Could ISP's currently peering with Net4U at APE kindly add the below listed network to the net4u's current prefix-list: 202.147.35.128/25 A full prefix-list is attached. Regards, Sahil Gupta Senior Account Manager NET4U LIMITED Phone: 0508-263-848 Fax: 07-8582659 Mobile: 029-366-6375

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TelstraClear DNS/Routing issues?
by Dan Clark 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Hi All, Is anyone else seeing no international availability and only some domestic on TelstraClear's Frame / Tempest type circuits? Can someone confirm if indeed their name servers are also dead/unreachable? 203.97.33.1 and 203.97.37.1 Even www.clear.net.nz and www.xtra.co.nz are unavailable from our side, however some domestic is? www.nzoom.com is. Regards Dan Clark Network Manager Wickliffe Ltd Scarfies.Net Ltd

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New ADSL products.
by jfp 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Fellow nznog'ers, I think we have now fully covered the "New ADSL products are a joke", however funny. Time to move on to more technical and relevant issues. jfp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jean-Francois Pirus <jfp(a)clearfield.com> Clearfield Software Ltd Phone (+64-9) 358 2081 4th Floor 8-10 Whitaker Place Fax (+64-9) 358 2083 P O Box 2348 Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [nznog] New ADSL products.
by Richard Parkinson 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. " I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb, just running my normal business activities. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Poole [mailto:matt(a)p00le.net] Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 4:39 p.m. To: Juha Saarinen Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] New ADSL products. On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Juha Saarinen wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Matthew Poole wrote: > > "500MB should be enough for everyone." > Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. Everyone knows that. RIANZ probably helped Telecom come up with the pricing model (I wouldn't be surprised, actually) </TONGUE-IN-CHEEK> > As JSR said, you chew through more just trying to keep Windows up-to-date. > And we still get to pay extra for all the traffic generated by the little Windows greeblies. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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RE: [nznog] New ADSL products.
by Richard Naylor 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

At 04:51 p.m. 22/08/2003 +1200, Richard Parkinson wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C36869.12A01D26" >Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message > >" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and >copyright infringement. " > >I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb, just >running my normal business activities. I also disagree. I encode and transcode video for people. I can create 5 GB a night which I have to bring in to town (server) on a hard disk. It would be nice to be able to copy it over dsl from my home, but not pay International rates for the privilege. All the video is copyright to its owner who I do the work for ie original content. Current pricing holds (tiny) business back. rich

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viruses
by Barry Murphy 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Anyone else picking up alot of viruses? Between 2am - 11:13am my personal mail server has picked up 119 viruses, anyone else being hit really bad? The virus was reported to be: the W32/Bugbear.b(a)MM virus !!! Barry

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A dampened route..?
by nward＠esphion.com 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Can someone confirm for me that the following prefix is being dampened around the place? 202.6.75.0/24 Nathan Ward

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Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation
by robbie_gernandt＠wilsonandhorton.co.nz 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

ok, sorry let me re-phrase that, what link speed or bandwidth does your solution support? We implemented an ATM (34M) connection to Telecom and worked closely with all the local (NZ) vendors and it was not a cheap solution robbie My solution suits local conditions. > just curious, does your Cisco ATM solution support E1 or E3? > > robbie > > > > > > Michael Hallager <michael(a)comsolve.net.nz> > 22/08/2003 13:12 > Please respond to michael > > > To: richard(a)kcbbs.gen.nz > cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, (bcc: Robbie > Gernandt/IT/AKLWHG/WHNZ) Subject: Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation > > > Not at all. I can offer a Cisco solution that would likely leave change > out of > $5K or $6K. > > Kind regards, > > Michael Hallager > Networkstuff Ltd > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 07:42:12AM +1200, Neil Fincham wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I have a client that has asked me to recommend a router > > to connect > > > > their Ethernet network to Telecoms ATM system. I don't know all that > > > much about ATM, and I told them that but I thought I would ask you > > guys. > > > > What would you recommend as a low-cost entry ATM device? > > Better yet > > > > has anyone got something suitable that they want to sell on for cheep? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Oooooh, your clients are in for a bit of a shock. ATM and low cost > > do not go in the same sentence together. ISPs who have bought > > Cisco equipment capable of ATM have spent 10s of thousands for > > the correct ATM card and the modular chassis to go with it. > > > > On the other hand, if you are prepared to be a bit experimental > > you may be able to use a PC installed with Linux and a supported > > PCI ATM card. I've never seen anyone try it though. > > > > > > Regards, > > RH. > > _______________________________________________ > Nznog mailing list > Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > > *************************************************************************** > This may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for > the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient > of this message, any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of > this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those > of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of > APN News & Media NZ Ltd. > For more information on APN News & Media NZ Ltd please visit our > web site at http://www.apn.co.nz > ***************************************************************************

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List Management Change
by Donald Neal 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

NZNOG People, To date I have been manually checking mail sent to this list from addresses which are not subscribed and accepting mail which looks relevant. The volume of spam or virus email sent to the list address has gone in the past week from dozens of messages per week to dozens per day. Since the number of relevant postings is now below 2% of those sent to the list from non-subscribed addresses, I intend shortly to cease to check such postings and to set the list to reject all of them. You are free to subscribe an address and set it not to receive mail if you wish to post from an address which is not your usual one. Donald Neal | "The way we do quality of Technical Specialist | service in the Internet Operations Engineering | today is don't drop Integration & Services Divn. | any packets." Alcatel NZ Ltd | - Barry Ravendran Greene ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation
by robbie_gernandt＠wilsonandhorton.co.nz 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

just curious, does your Cisco ATM solution support E1 or E3? robbie Michael Hallager <michael(a)comsolve.net.nz> 22/08/2003 13:12 Please respond to michael To: richard(a)kcbbs.gen.nz cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, (bcc: Robbie Gernandt/IT/AKLWHG/WHNZ) Subject: Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation Not at all. I can offer a Cisco solution that would likely leave change out of $5K or $6K. Kind regards, Michael Hallager Networkstuff Ltd > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 07:42:12AM +1200, Neil Fincham wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I have a client that has asked me to recommend a router to connect > > their Ethernet network to Telecoms ATM system. I don't know all that > > much about ATM, and I told them that but I thought I would ask you guys. > > > > What would you recommend as a low-cost entry ATM device? Better yet > > has anyone got something suitable that they want to sell on for cheep? > > > > Thanks > > Oooooh, your clients are in for a bit of a shock. ATM and low cost > do not go in the same sentence together. ISPs who have bought > Cisco equipment capable of ATM have spent 10s of thousands for > the correct ATM card and the modular chassis to go with it. > > On the other hand, if you are prepared to be a bit experimental > you may be able to use a PC installed with Linux and a supported > PCI ATM card. I've never seen anyone try it though. > > > Regards, > RH. _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog *************************************************************************** This may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of APN News & Media NZ Ltd. For more information on APN News & Media NZ Ltd please visit our web site at http://www.apn.co.nz ***************************************************************************

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Fwd: Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation
by Michael Hallager 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Not at all. I can offer a Cisco solution that would likely leave change out of $5K or $6K. Kind regards, Michael Hallager Networkstuff Ltd > Oooooh, your clients are in for a bit of a shock. ATM and low cost > do not go in the same sentence together. ISPs who have bought > Cisco equipment capable of ATM have spent 10s of thousands for > the correct ATM card and the modular chassis to go with it. > > On the other hand, if you are prepared to be a bit experimental > you may be able to use a PC installed with Linux and a supported > PCI ATM card. I've never seen anyone try it though. > > > Regards, > RH. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Michael Hallager Managing Director Networkstuff Limited URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz Networkstuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment. E-Mail: michael @ networkstuff.co.nz Member of the NZ Open Source Society. Member of the Auckland VHF Group. Amateur radio callsign: ZL1VMH.

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ATM Recommendation
by Neil Fincham 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Hi All, I have a client that has asked me to recommend a router to connect their Ethernet network to Telecoms ATM system. I don't know all that much about ATM, and I told them that but I thought I would ask you guys. What would you recommend as a low-cost entry ATM device? Better yet has anyone got something suitable that they want to sell on for cheep? Thanks -- Neil Fincham <neil(a)integrals.co.nz>

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Re: [nznog] Prefix-List Update for Net4U Limited (AS23746)
by Michael Hallager 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

Its only local stuff (Net4U). It's not like you are handling a zillion routes for NZ ISP peering. What is the problem? Michael Hallager Networkstuff Limited > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Sahil Gupta - NET4U LIMITED wrote: > > Hi, > > Could ISP's currently peering with Net4U at APE kindly add the below > > listed network to the net4u's current prefix-list: > > > > 202.147.35.128/25 > > I'm curious how many places will actually accept a /25. > > Best practice is usually not to allow anything more specific than a /24. > > --David > > _______________________________________________ > Nznog mailing list > Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog ------------------------------------------------------- -- Michael Hallager Managing Director Networkstuff Limited URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz Networkstuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment. E-Mail: michael @ networkstuff.co.nz Member of the NZ Open Source Society. Member of the Auckland VHF Group. Amateur radio callsign: ZL1VMH.

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update filters for 2day.com
by Joe Abley 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

Peers of 2day.com, If you are peering with AS 17914 at the APE, please add the following entry to your filter: route: 199.212.93.0/24 descr: automagic.org Auckland, New Zealand origin: AS9327 mnt-by: MAINT-AUTOMAGIC changed: jabley(a)automagic.org 20030820 source: ALTDB A complete prefix filter for AS 17914 is now: 202.37.240.0/23 198.32.66.0/24 202.41.136.0/22 199.212.93.0/24 202.41.140.0/24 A complete AS path filter for AS 17914 is now: ^17914$ ^17914_23710$ ^17914_9327$ Regards, Joe

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Xtra filtering ICMP now?
by Juha Saarinen 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

~$ ping alien.xtra.co.nz PING alien.xtra.co.nz (202.27.184.3) from 192.168.1.15 : 56(84) bytes of data. >From v60.XTRAK2-B1.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.149) icmp_seq=14 Packet filtered >From v60.XTRAK2-B1.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.149) icmp_seq=23 Packet filtered >From v60.XTRAK2-B1.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.149) icmp_seq=27 Packet filtered >From v60.XTRAK2-B1.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.149) icmp_seq=30 Packet filtered >From v60.XTRAK2-B1.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.149) icmp_seq=33 Packet filtered --- alien.xtra.co.nz ping statistics --- 35 packets transmitted, 0 received, +5 errors, 100% loss, time 34022ms A Windows worm side-effect? -- Juha Saarinen

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Sale of Domainz
by Tim John 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

Hi, Yesterday afternoon, InternetNZ announced the sale of Domainz Limited to MelbourneIT, who are based in, well ... Melbourne actually ! The sale is still subject to a few conditions being met, but final settlement is expected on the 5th September 2003. With this change in circumstances, Domainz are obliged to write to all it's direct bill customers, so by addressing the list, I hope to prevent comments regarding 'spamming'. The email being sent is not of a marketing nature, but simply an explanation of the current circumstances for those customers who may not be aware of the changes. There is information on the sale on both the Domainz and InternetNZ web sites and we have an email address to receive feedback from the general public - mailto:domainzsale(a)domainz.net.nz. Thank you Tim John IT Manager Domainz Limited E-mail: tim.john(a)domainz.net.nz Web: www.domainz.net.nz Fax: (04) 473 - 4569 Phone: (04) 473 - 4567 DISCLAIMER: The content of this email is confidential and may contain legally privileged information intended only for the individual or entity named above. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that the use, distribution and publication of the above information is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please contact Domainz by returning the email and destroying the original. Thank you.

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Full Prefix-List
by Sahil Gupta - NET4U LIMITED 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

Hi, Sorry missed in last post. Regards, Sahil Gupta Senior Account Manager NET4U LIMITED Phone: 0508-263-848 Fax: 07-8582659 Mobile: 029-366-6375

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RE: [nznog] NZNog archive
by Michael Bordignon 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

> What I'm looking for is a list of NZ owned IP addresses, if I > recall, maxnet has a URL with a list of these. also http://noc.maxnet.net.nz/nationalroutes/

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NZNog archive
by Barry Murphy 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

Howdy, Do you think NZNog archives will ever become searchable? Once before I managed to find something I was looking for by clicking through each thread but this is proving to be more and more difficult as the list gets bigger and bigger. It would be nice if there was a search function on it. What I'm looking for is a list of NZ owned IP addresses, if I recall, maxnet has a URL with a list of these. Any help would be appreciated in locating this link. Thanks Barry

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RE: [nznog] NZNog archive
by Michael Bordignon 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

> Do you think NZNog archives will ever become searchable? Once > before I managed to find something I was looking for by > clicking through each thread but this is proving to be more > and more difficult as the list gets bigger and bigger. It > would be nice if there was a search function on it. you could try http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=barry+site%3Aarchive.nznog.org

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Minicom
by Michael Hallager 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Hi. I have found that it is CTRL-I then Z and then F on version 2.00 (Linux) this is tested. Thanks. Michael Hallager Managing Director Networkstuff Limited URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz Networkstuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment. E-Mail: michael @ networkstuff.co.nz Member of the NZ Open Source Society. Member of the Auckland VHF Group. Amateur radio callsign: ZL1VMH.

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Minicom
by Michael Hallager 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Hello. Does anyone here know how to send a break-signal via Minicom / Linux? This is to get into ROM mode on a Cisco router. Thanks. Michael Hallager Managing Director Networkstuff Limited URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz Networkstuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment. E-Mail: michael @ networkstuff.co.nz Member of the NZ Open Source Society. Member of the Auckland VHF Group. Amateur radio callsign: ZL1VMH.

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