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Re: [nznog] Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week
by Lin Nah 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Joerg Micheel wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 03:52:24PM +1300, Nevil Brownlee wrote: > > > I'm pleased to announce that Vinton Cerf will give a public lecture on "The > > > Internet: its future and the opportunities it presents", at the University of > > > Auckland campus from 6pm to 7pm on Thursday 20 February 2003. (Venue: U of Auckland City Campus, Library Building Basement B28) Many Thanks to Nevil for giving us the information... > So everyone can safely attend Christophe's talk on Tuesday there, > without missing out on Vint Cerf :-) And the talk is on a Thursday! Would anyone be interested in a meal of Curry and Beer after the talk? We can make a booking at one of the restaurants in the city ( eg there's 2 or 3 in Lorne St - down the hill from campus ) if people are interested. Possibly make the reservation for 7:30pm with a warning to the restaurant that we may be late due to attending a lecture on campus. What do you think? Expressions of interest either to invite(a)auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com or me please. lin ps Also curry tomorrow night at Sitar restaurant, Mt Eden Rd, 7:30pm.

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New IANA IPv4 allocations and bogon updates
by Rob Thomas 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

Hi, NZNOG listfolk. [ Apologies to those of you who have seen this post in other fora. ] IANA has allocated 222/8 and 223/8 to APNIC as of February 2003. The sundry bogon projects have been updated to reflect these allocations. You will find the catch-all Bogon Reference Page here: http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html This includes links to the Secure IOS Template, Secure Juniper Template, bogon monitoring, and other associated references. Both 222/8 and 223/8 were withdrawn from the bogon route-server as of 13 FEB 02:01:00 US CST. Thanks! Rob, for Team Cymru. -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);

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Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week
by Centurion Computer Technology Ltd 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

You will need to notify the US Embassy in advance if you want to attend the Tuesday talk. I will copy the PDF file I received from the Embassy to anyone emailing me direct for further information. Can I get the pdf please? Thanks -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technolgy Limited Ph: (04) 565 1344 (025) 374 387 email: centurion(a)paradise.net.nz

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DNS Zone Push Review
by Nick Griffin 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

The current number of DNS Zone Pushs being executed is 2 per day (11am and 7pm). I am currently reviewing this and am proposing that the number is increased to a maximum of 6 per 24 hour period with the following timetable 3am, 7 am, 11am, 3pm, 7pm, and 11pm. As apart of the review I am seeking feedback from registrars, stakeholders and interested parties: a) If there are any reasons that should be considered that would stop this from occurring. b) If there is a lead time to update your systems to cater with such a change, and what that lead might be. c) if there is a timetable that is prefered over that proposed. When doing the review I shall be taking into account the above when deciding the Zone Push timetable and roll out schedule. The timetable that I will be working to is: 28 February Receipt of comments 7 March Announcement of Zone push timetable and implementation schedule This notice will also be published on the NZRS website, DNC website, the SRS newsletter and the NZNOG. Cheers Nick Nick Griffin Registry Manager .nz Registry Services PO Box 24361 Wellington New Zealand e nick.griffin(a)nzrs.net.nz <mailto:nick.griffin(a)nzrs.net.nz> m 64 21 505 229 p 64 4 931 6977 f 64 4 931 6979 w www.nzrs.net.nz <http://www.nzrs.net.nz> CAUTION : This Email message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this Email in error, please notify me immediately and delete all material pertaining to this Email. Thank you. -- Nick Griffin Registry Manager .nz Registry Services PO Box 24361 Wellington New Zealand e nick.griffin(a)nzrs.net.nz <mailto:nick.griffin(a)nzrs.net.nz> m 64 21 505 229 p 64 4 931 6977 f 64 4 931 6979 w www.nzrs.net.nz <http://www.nzrs.net.nz> CAUTION : This Email message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this Email in error, please notify me immediately and delete all material pertaining to this Email. Thank you.

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ISDN performance
by Michael Hallager 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Hello, Can anyone please inform me *From first hand experience only* what the average latency is across a Centrex Auckland BRA ISDN? Best regards, Michael Hallager michael at comsolve.net.nz -------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [nznog] FW: APEC TEL IPv6 Workshop
by Mike Clark 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

some good ones linked to from vint cerfs site: http://www.worldcom.com/global/resources/cerfs_up/issues/ -----Original Message----- From: Andy Linton [mailto:asjl(a)lpnz.org] Sent: Thursday, 13 February, 2003 16:02 To: 'nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz' Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: APEC TEL IPv6 Workshop I spotted these on the ISOC site recently: Waiting for IP version 6 by Geoff Huston (http://ispcolumn.isoc.org/2003-01/Waiting.html) and Response by IPv6 Forum to "Waiting for IP version 6" by Latif Ladid and Jim Bound (http://www.isoc.org/pubs/isp/ipv6response.shtml_ _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Re: [nznog] FW: APEC TEL IPv6 Workshop
by Ewen McNeill 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

In message <C031BD7C-3EF7-11D7-B971-00039312C852(a)automagic.org>, Joe Abley writes: >On Wednesday, Feb 12, 2003, at 21:00 Canada/Eastern, Frank March wrote: >>[APEC workshop will cover] >> Issues surrounding the current standard of Internet Protocol version 4 >> (IPv4) and how it limits the number of Internet Protocol (IP) addresses >> available globally. > >Someone should tell these people that we are not running out of IPv4 >addresses any time soon They actually only talk about IPv4 limiting the number of addresses available -- which is true. There are only 2**32 of them :-) But it's not quite the point. However people outside the network-core could be forgiven for believing that there's a dire shortage of IP addresses. When only a few years ago a business connection would often have a /24 or greater address space, often one which was "portable" (in theory, but perhaps not in practice), these days plenty of business connections are given a single (gateway) IP address, and it is strongly suggested they use NAT -- even when hosting multiple servers requiring incoming connections. (In at least one instance I've seen multiple connections installed primarily "to get another IP address". When they started in on adding a few more hosting servers, and ordering their third connection "to get another IP address" I put my foot down, and they have finally applied for a /28, which will already be > 50% filled simply properly numbering the existing servers.) >and that the real pressing issue is how you make the routing system >scale (an issue which IPv6 does not attempt to address). This is the flip side to the "one address, or maybe a few more if you beg lots". You end up lots of very long prefixes. To be sure many of those couldn't care less about routing, and CIDR works well for them. But you end up with a certain percentage that have a legitimate need to do their own routing, for redundancy or otherwise, and still have fairly long prefixes. Even if they go through the (non-obvious to those outside the core networking arena) process required to get a /24, that still gives you a lot of /24s floating around to deal with routing. I tend to agree with you that by and large IPv6 will just shuffle this problem around some, and still leave basically the same issue with "how do we deal with all these routes". (The address space will be larger, and in theory will be more hierachically allocated, but there'll still be the same people, and the same portion of them will want/need to do their own routing, etc.) I'd be happy to see IPv6 deployed to get rid of some of the worst excesses of NAT I see (particularly the "traffic in to one IP address splits off to N internal servers in difficult to keep track of fashions") but other than that I don't think it's going to solve all that much by itself. Ewen

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ISDN performance
by Michael Hallager 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Hello, Can anyone please inform me *From first hand experience only* what the average latency is across a Centrex Auckland BRA ISDN? Best regards, Michael Hallager michael at comsolve.net.nz

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RE: [nznog] Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week
by Frank March 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

AFAIK, yr friendly USG. The US Embassy is certainly acting as v close minder for the visit. --- Frank March Senior Specialist Adviser, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Phone (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax (+64 4) 474 2659; Mobile (+64) 21 042 9205 -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gardner [mailto:andy(a)navigator.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2003 14:45 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week At 1:50 PM +1300 2/12/03, Frank March wrote: >For those not already in the loop, Vint Cerf, one of the original developers >of TCP/IP and currently Chair of the ICANN Board is visiting NZ to speak at >the Knowledge Wave Forum in Auckland Thursday next week. He will also be >speaking at two public fora in Wellington. Who's paying for Vint's trip? Cheers, -- Andrew P. Gardner barcelona.com stolen, stmoritz.com stays. What's uniform about the UDRP? We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare? Get active: http://www.tldlobby.com _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer.

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by Nevil Brownlee 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Hi again: Sorry, I failed to send the second paragraph of the announcement about Vint's Auckland talk, the one telling *where* it's happening. Here it is.. > I'm pleased to announce that Vinton Cerf will give a public lecture on "The > Internet: its future and the opportunities it presents", at the University of > Auckland campus from 6pm to 7pm on Thursday 20 February 2003. > > I have booked Library room B28 (capacity 419) for this event. I have also > booked an overflow room (with videolink) that will handle an additional 269 > people. My University is now preparing a press release. Cheers, Nevil ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Director, Technology Development Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 ITSS, The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7021 Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through University of Auckland http://www.auckland.ac.nz/

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Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week
by Frank March 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

For those not already in the loop, Vint Cerf, one of the original developers of TCP/IP and currently Chair of the ICANN Board is visiting NZ to speak at the Knowledge Wave Forum in Auckland Thursday next week. He will also be speaking at two public fora in Wellington. Monday 17 February, 5:30 pm. National Library Auditorium, Molesworth St, Wellington, "Towards and Information Society for All" Tuesday 18 February, 11:45 (for noon). US Embassy, 29 Fitzherbert St, Wellington, "E-mail, how its changed busienss and where it is going" You will need to notify the US Embassy in advance if you want to attend the Tuesday talk. I will copy the PDF file I received from the Embassy to anyone emailing me direct for further information. I understand that Vint is also going to give a public talk in Auckland later in the week but at this stage do not know the details. --- Frank March Senior Specialist Adviser, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Phone (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax (+64 4) 474 2659; Mobile (+64) 21 042 9205 http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer.

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U.S. Congress and ICANN
by Andy Linton 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

I won't be able to get to the talk given by Vint Cerf at the National Library next week but I think there's some questions about US policy in relation to ICANN that someone should ask him. Attached find some material about the Senate Communications Subcommittee and ICANN. It seems that the US view may be that just like Iraq and its oil the Internet belongs to them and that they have the right to remove this body as they please even though other national entities have signed up to the process. Perhaps Vint could comment? [Note the reference to root name servers and DOS attacks which make this message of operational significance! (:-)] --- [Jan 15, 2003] U.S. Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.) announced his top priorities for his chairmanship of the Senate Communications Subcommittee during the 108th legislative session. ICANN Reform STRENGTHENS AND SECURES THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE INTERNET Sen. Burns will take aim at the organization's persistent half-hearted efforts at internal reform. The lack of accountability of this quasi-governmental organization poses serious problems for American national security. The recent "denial of service" (DOS) attack on nine of the 13 Internet "root servers" in October highlights these concerns. Constitutional issues are also troubling, including whether the Commerce Department was within its rights to grant such a huge responsibility to ICANN in the first place, potentially violating the nondelegation clause [of the U.S. Constitution]. This issue demands immediate oversight. Sen. Burns will hold a hearing on ICANN Reform in the spring to address potential legislation to authorize ICANN's continued existence.

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NZNOG 2003 - Suggestions for Content
by Donald Neal 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

People, I'd be interested in receiving suggestions of subjects people would like to see covered at this July's gathering in Auckland. To me directly, please, not to the list. Offers to present are also, of course, welcome. - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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freebsd iso
by Mark Frater 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Anyone know where in NZ I can get the latest freebsd stable release ISO? nz.ftp.freebsd.org seems flakey and last time I connected, didn't have anything later than v4.5 Mark

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Achieving Protection and Security in an OnLine World - Free semin ar
by Frank March 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Please distribute this information to anyone you think might be interested. Seminar sponsored by AOEMA and supported by Ministry of Economic Development Date & Venue: Monday 3rd March Christchurch Convention Centre Conference Room 1&2 95 Kilmore Street CHRISTCHURCH Wednesday 5th March Centennial Convention Centre Main St PALMERSTON NORTH Speakers: Michael Baker, Yuichi Tosaki, John Thackray, Tony Krzyzewski, Michael Wigley Cost: Free Register: REGISTRATIONS Please email your attendance to: Michael Baker Executive Director, AOEMA Michael.baker(a)aoema.org Or contact: Jim Higgins 04 939 2800 or 021 963 268 Copies of the full programme available by emailing frank.march(a)med.govt.nz Further information available at http://www.nzecommerce.co.nz/default.aspx?page=showevent&id=25 --- Frank March Senior Specialist Adviser, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Phone (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax (+64 4) 474 2659; Mobile (+64) 21 042 9205 http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer.

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Re: [nznog] freebsd iso
by Dan Langille 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

On 3 Feb 2003 at 18:06, "Mark Frater" <mfrater(a)quicks wrote: > On 4 Feb 2003 at 11:52, Mark Frater wrote: > > > Anyone know where in NZ I can get the latest freebsd stable release > > ISO? > > FWIW, there is a copy: > > http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.0/ I'm sorry, I misread. Take the other link. You do not want the above. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/

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Spammer: spametropolis.co.nz.
by Simon Lyall 30 Jan '03

30 Jan '03

Anyone at Xtra going to do anything about this crowd? I've already sent in two complaints to abuse(a)xtra (and got nice letters back even) and they just sent me another spam with a promise of another to come. I notice they even spam IDG: http://www.idg.net.nz/webhome.nsf/printdoc/BEA9EAEA8C0900DACC256C7B0077ACE4… I've blocked them now but I'd really prefer that Xtra was a little more.... -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz

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NZNOG 2003 - Final Vote Count
by Donald Neal 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

Three weeks ago, I asked NZNOG subscribers who expect to attend to express a preference for a conference with UniForum broadly similar to last year's on one hand, or a lower-cost gathering hosted by The University of Waikato. In counting votes, I have ignored those received from UniForum members who are not subscribed to this list. The envelope, please ... Preferring UniForum: 16 Preferring Waikato: 13 Will attend either, not worried: 6 Volunteering to help: 3 I'm inclined to conclude from this that we do not have a clear majority for either option, or more positively that we have quite a bit of interest in both. The three volunteering to help were two who favoured the UniForum option and one who would attend either. Partly for that reason, partly in the interests of getting an event under away sooner rather than later, and partly because it worked last time, I believe we should proceed with the UniForum option. It is also clear that we have significant interest in an alternative, and I believe that should be followed up, possibly for February 2004. One longer-term question would be whether 2004 could support two events, one at Waikato and another jointly with UniForum in the Wellington region. Unless I hear significant numbers of complaints soon, I'll seek to follow up who's doing what with UniForum's convenor, Roger De Salis, and those who've volunteered; and myself contact The University of Waikato with a view to working out some details for a later conference. One of my aims here is to have decisions about the conference after next made not later than during the next conference. - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Mailing List Software Migration
by Donald Neal 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

The NZNOG mailing list has run since the mid-90's (yes, it has been that long) using Majordomo list management software. The list will shortly be migrating to using the rather more current mailman v2.1 instead. The address to which mail for the list is to be sent will not change. Archive collection will continue as before, though with minor changes to the layout of the web pages generated. The process for subscribing or unsubscribing will change, and will in future use a password. These are to be generated automatically in the first case, and sent out to subscribers as the migration proceeds later today. One significant change affecting a few people is that the nznog-postonly list will cease to exist. Instead, it will be possible to subscribe an address to the main nznog list and specify that that address is not to receive mail. This is to be done automatically for the addresses now subscribed to nznog-postonly. An unfortunate result of the automatic process used is that each address will have a different initial password assigned. I suspect you'll cope. OK, Colin, take it away ... - Donald Neal List Administrator/Muggins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: [nznog] anyone else getting Welcome messages?
by Ewen McNeill 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

NOTE: Sent to nznog in the hope of stemming the tide of "meeee tooooo" posts; Please do not respond on the list. In message <3E383197.32604.79198938(a)localhost>, "Dan Langille" writes: >I just got a welcome to the list message... but I've been subscribed >for quite some time.... That would have something to do with this announcement: -=- cut here -=- From: "Donald Neal" <Donald.Neal(a)telecom.co.nz> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:57:43 +1300 Subject: Mailing List Software Migration [....] The list will shortly be migrating to using the rather more current mailman v2.1 instead [.....] These [passwords] are to be generated automatically in the first case, and sent out to subscribers as the migration proceeds later today.[....] -=- cut here -=- So receiving a welcome message is perfectly normal. If you didn't get one and didn't get this message either you should probably contact the list adminstrator....[0] Ewen [0] Yes, this is a joke.

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RE: [nznog] anyone else getting Welcome messages?
by Dan Langille 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

On 30 Jan 2003 at 14:02, Lindsay Druett wrote: > > I just got a welcome to the list message... but I've been subscribed > > for quite some time.... > > Yes you have indeed... > You have been subscribed for over ten minutes now -- according to > Mailman... Woo hoo! Thanks. You and about 8 others have told me about the message I deleted without reading. If I have no time to read them, I just delete them. I'm glad I'm not the only one to have missed it. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/

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[Fwd: anyone know who is using this address block?]
by Russell Fulton 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

I some how doubt that a six year old address @student.canterbury.ac.nz will be much use. Anyone know of a contact -- one address in this block is infected with slammer worm... Russell Whois: inetnum: 202.37.124.0 - 202.37.125.255 netname: ISHOP-NZ country: NZ descr: Internet Shop Home Networking Expt (January 1996) Internet Connected BBS (March 1996) Internet Provider (May 1996) admin_c: JT5-NZ tech_c: JT5-NZ remarks: mnt_by: MAINT-NULL changed: sandy(a)waikato.ac.nz 960109 status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE source: APNIC notify: NIC(a)WAIKATO.AC.NZ J.Tew(a)student.canterbury.ac.nz -- Russell Fulton, Computer and Network Security Officer The University of Auckland, New Zealand "It aint necessarily so" - Gershwin -- Russell Fulton, Computer and Network Security Officer The University of Auckland, New Zealand "It aint necessarily so" - Gershwin - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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CAIDA skitter in New Zealand
by Joerg Micheel 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

Cheers everyone, this is a request for help in the interest of research / community. For the past four years the WAND network research group at the University of Waikato has been hosting the only skitter system in the South Pacific rim. http://www.caida.org/tools/measurement/skitter/ The system measures and displays a number of important network properties on a global scale and tracks changes on short, medium and long time scales. Waikato has been the beacon on the map, making sure NZ shows up on the radar screen of the Internet (research) community. The problem in running a skitter system is with the amount of traffic generated, it can easily exceed 1 GByte per day, and with traffic charging in place, this adds up to something like NZ$50,000 per annum for us. We have been coping with a mix of external and internal funding, but those sources have finally dried out. The sad result is that we had to shut down the system last week. No backup solutions so far. This note to you to explore if any of you have an idea on alternative placements, preferably with no volume charging in place at all, or, with a nominal fee. There is little chance we can keep operating a machine here in NZ if the amount of funding required is going to be substancial. Thanks. Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: <joerg(a)nlanr.net> NLANR MNA at SDSC/UCSD Page: <joerg(a)vodafone.net.nz> The University of Waikato, CompScience Phone: +64 7 8384794 Private Bag 3105 Fax: +64 7 8585095 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: PMA, TINE and the DAG's - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Uniforum 03 Student discounts
by Matthew Lamb 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Someone mentioned a discount for students attending, anyone know anything about them / where I can find some more info? Thanks Matt Lamb NZPages.Net - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Last Call for 2U cases
by Mark Frater 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Hi List, I'm ordering 2U 19" wide by (only) 19" deep cases from Taiwan direct from manufacturer. These shallow cases are ideal for 600mm deep cabinets. Takes standard ATX moboWe have deployed both P4 and Athlon boards in these cases already and they have been fine. Here is a PDF cad drawing. http://www.quicksilver.net.nz/272-dia.pdf. Made by Comix International. $US200 for case, 400W PSU and 3xPCI Riser card. PLUS freight, gst and handling. Total cost worked out at NZ$612.88/case last time after shipping, customs charges and GST were added. This time might be slightly better with more cases and a better exchange rate. Realistically, about 3-4 weeks delivery ( ie 1 week to get deposits, 1 week for Comix to process order, 1 week for airfreight, 1 week for NZcustoms clearance. Pickup from Quicksilver Internet, Textile Centre, Kenwyn St, Parnell, or for a small fee we could arrange for a courier from here. I'd like to get a deposit of say NZ$400 per case off people before placing the order. Make out cheques to Mercury Telecommunications Ltd and send to: Attn: Mark Frater, Mercury Telecommunications Ltd P.O.Box 99856 New Market Contact me off list TODAY if you are interested. Mark Frater Quicksilver Internet ph 9160300 - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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