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NZNOG 2003 - Last Call for Votes
by Donald Neal 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Days since I asked people who expect to attend to express a preference: 19 Preferring UniForum: 10 Preferring Waikato: 8 Will attend either, not worried: 3 Volunteering to help: 2 The University of Waikato expect an attendance from them which is about five higher if the Waikato option is chosen. I don't see a clear outcome here. but if we're going to anything a decision of some sort is needed. Could I please have any further expressions of interest by noon (NZDT) on Thursday, 30 January? People who liked the idea of doing both UniForum NZ in July 2003 and Waikato in February 2004: 2 - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: NZNOG 2003 - Last Call for Votes
by Donald Neal 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Chris, When I first floated the idea of what became last year's face to face gathering, I got 22 responses. Asking people without quoting dates, prices or a programme will tend, I think, to produce less interest than a specific proposal. - Donald Neal > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Hellberg [mailto:odysseus(a)soa.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 12:50 > To: Donald Neal > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: NZNOG 2003 - Last Call for Votes > > > I hope this isn't a guage of the interest for NZNOG 2003 - 23 people. > The calibre of last year's event was pretty impressive and no > doubt that this year will be just as good; I know I'm looking > forward to it. > > It would be a real shame to miss out on the best event of its > type in NZ for lack of support. I'm sure there are more out there who > have heard of IP or 2day.com-sponsored bar tabs. > > Hopefully I got enough superlatives in ;) > > Cheers, > > Chris > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[OT] 19" Coms Rack Cabinet...
by Dan Clark 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Hi all, Sorry for the OT but would anyone out there have any spare 19" Coms Rack Cabinets surplus/for sale? Especially in the Dunedin area. We are in need of a 1/2 height (24U ish). Please contact off list. Kind Regards, Dan Clark Network Manager Scarfies.Net Ltd

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worldwide DDOS (sql server fun)
by Joe Abley 25 Jan '03

25 Jan '03

http://www.nextgenss.com/advisories/mssql-udp.txt Time to start applying some filters at your edges. This has taken some big networks off the air in the US (and at least one in NZ). term deny-dos { from { packet-length 404; protocol udp; destination-port 1434; } then { count codered-4; discard; } } term allow-rest { then accept; } - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: worldwide DDOS (sql server fun)
by Ewen McNeill 25 Jan '03

25 Jan '03

In message <005701c2c4b1$165b1a80$0c01a8c0(a)saarinen.org>, "Juha Saarinen" writes: >Joe Abley <jabley(a)automagic.org> wrote: >> http://www.nextgenss.com/advisories/mssql-udp.txt > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2693925.stm >Although I remain dubious about this claim: >"Unlike viruses, the worm exists only in memory, so it cannot be detected by >traditional anti-virus scanners." I'm not sure which bit you're dubious about: the "only in memory" or the "cannot be detected by traditional anti-virus scanners". The only in memory has been identified by various people starting to disassemble it. Various useful links (that have come through Bugtraq): >From "Jay D. Dyson" <jdyson(a)treachery.net>: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/370308 http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/399260 http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/484891 >From H D Moore <sflist(a)digitaloffense.net>: http://www.digitaloffense.net/worms/mssql_udp_worm/ (which contains some disassembly screen shots, and a unannotated disassembly) >From cstone <cstone(a)pobox.com> http://www.boredom.org/~cstone/worm-annotated.txt (which contains an annotated disassembly) >From what I can tell it's just a worm, spreading itself as fast as it can. Presumably the vulnerable hosts thus identified are then prime targets for something else to come in as a second wave. There's nothing in the annotated disassembly that indicates writing/sending data anywhere other than the Internet, hence "only in memory". Various people report that the infection can be cleared by stopping SQL server and/or rebooting -- with the obvious caveat that if it's not disconnected/firewalled from possible sources, it'll be reinfected quickly. As for "cannot be detected by traditional anti-virus scanners", that's probably a fall out of not writing anything to disk (which could be scanned), and memory protection in modern OS (which means the "memory scan" phase of DOS-based virus scanners is limited to the memory space the anti virus scanner is running in, without kernel support). Presumably a debug API or similar could be used to scan all memory, but I don't recall seeing that type of technique in (m)any anti-virus programs. Ewen - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: 2LD Review for *.nz ?
by Frank March 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Although this matter is off-topic for this list, it might pay for me to clarify matters here. InternetNZ has a clearly laid out set of procedures for reviewing policies relating to .nz administration - please see the Domain Name Commissioners website at http://www.dnc.org.nz/ for more information. Included in these is the process for determining and reviewing policies and procedures. Briefly the review process requires the establishment of a review committee whose task it is, inter alia, to carry out a process of wide public consultation. In this case, the review committee composition has been discussed with the InternetNZ Council who have delegated final membership determination to the .nz Oversight Committee. It should be noted that the notice (and accompanying press release) went out on 13 December which is, even by the relaxed NZ standards at this time of the year, a reasonable time before Christmas/New Year. The review terms of reference have yet to be decided but will be wide (see http://www.dnc.org.nz/story/30064-35-1.html) The public consultation, apart from online discussions, will involve at least one forum session of some type, probably co-incident with a broader discussion of other InternetNZ matters of public interest, to be organised late in the first half of this year. Unfortunately, I cannot be more specific about dates and location as this is a matter for the InternetNZ Council and the new Executive Director to sort out. Best wishes, Frank March Chair, .nz Oversight Committee --- Frank March Senior Specialist Adviser, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Phone (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax (+64 4) 474 2659; Mobile (+64) 21 042 9205 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Brislen [mailto:Paul_Brislen(a)idg.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 13:26 To: Mark Foster Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: 2LD Review for *.nz ? I would be interested to hear from anyone who has applied as well - I thought the nomination process was a bit quick, especially with the Christmas/New Year/Holiday of your choice season smack in the middle of it. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: 2LD Review for *.nz ?
by Paul Brislen 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Sadly, it's too late - nominations/applications closed first week of January... Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net>@list.waikato.ac.nz on 23/01/2003 12:03:11 Sent by: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz cc: Subject: 2LD Review for *.nz ? http://www.idg.co.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/E021027AAA37CF2DCC256CB6000704F1!open… (Apologies for any offtopicness, but I know there will be people here very interested in this...) Anyone going to volunteer? - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: 2LD Review for *.nz ?
by Paul Brislen 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has applied as well - I thought the nomination process was a bit quick, especially with the Christmas/New Year/Holiday of your choice season smack in the middle of it. Let me know off list if you like - I'm as far off topic as I like to get. Cheers, Paul PS - yes, I'm the reporter for IDGNet. Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> on 23/01/2003 13:36:03 To: "Paul Brislen" <Paul_Brislen(a)idg.co.nz> cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: 2LD Review for *.nz ? "The nominations for interest in being involved have closed and InternetNZ's oversight committee will meet in early February to select the four other participants." Oops.. Maybe ill rephrase. Anyone involved with NZNOG involved with this? The implications will impact alot of us here, I imagine. Thanks Paul, Mark. At 11:53 23/01/2003 +1300, Paul Brislen wrote: >Sadly, it's too late - nominations/applications closed first week of >January... - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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2LD Review for *.nz ?
by Mark Foster 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

http://www.idg.co.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/E021027AAA37CF2DCC256CB6000704F1!open… (Apologies for any offtopicness, but I know there will be people here very interested in this...) Anyone going to volunteer? - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The green green grass of home...
by Dean Pemberton 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

Hi all; I've been overseas for almost 5 years now, and it's time to come back home to New Zealand. I do however need a job. I've spoken to my current employer about this of course. While they acknowledge that it is technically possible for me to get a transfer to NZ, they can not see it happening in the near future. This is unfortunate, but does nothing to dampen my desire to return home. SO; If anyone out there has a position they need filled, or know of someone else who does, then can you drop me a line. My preference is for permanent work in Wellington, but I'm also happy to consider contract work and other locations. I'm also open to negotiation regarding salary, so don't worry about that to begin with. I'm basically keeping an open mind. So if you have something pass it on. I have a current CV at http://deanpemberton.com/cv/ Feel free to pass it along to anyone who might be interested. Thanks Dean - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Talk about 'Network Measurements at Sprint, AS 1239'
by Nevil Brownlee 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

Hi Jamie: > Have you come across a similar project by RIPE? > http://www.ripe.net/test-traffic/ > > Are the two trying to achieve the same objectives with different approaches > in terms of scale and distribution? (Though to me RIPE has the edge as is > appears to measure IPDV) Yes. RIPE test traffic provides data about Internet links between their 'test boxes;' RIPE NCC offer it as a (charged for) service to ISPs who are RIPE members. I agree, it's an interesting project - their web pages http://www.ripe.net/ttm/index.html are well worth a look. The Sprint work is concerned with measuring and understanding the way traffic behaves in their backbone, and how that information can be used to imnprove backbone behaviour, for example by using it to tune IS-IS link weights. > Nevertheless, some very interesting statistical information found at > http://ipmon.sprint.com Cheers, Nevil ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Director, Technology Development Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 ITSS, The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7021 Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through University of Auckland http://www.auckland.ac.nz/ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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more on the PDP-11
by Richard Naylor 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

I should have mentioned its not small. The basic 2 disk machine is a 1.2m rack. I normally stack the 3rd disk and floppy on top, making a 5 foot rack. In my box of bits there maybe some MicroVax cpus as well. Theres also a few backplanes, so you can probably build a 2nd or 3rd machine. There is also a real DEC VT100 And for those of you who think "in car computers" (&MP3 players) are cool, I had an in car PDP-11 probably before you were born. rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Anyone looking to 2U cases ?
by Mark Frater 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Hi List, I've tried getting 2U 19" wide by (only) 19" deep cases from Procase, but they don't have any and can't get them. Unless anyone knows a NZ source for these, I am intending to get some from Taiwan. US$200 including 400W PSU. Takes standard ATX mobo, comes with 3PCI riser card. We have some units in production already and they have been fine. Contact me off list if you are interested and we can split the shipping and import charges. Mark Frater Quicksilver Internet ph 9160300 - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Reporting NZNOG activities at APRICOT
by Philip Smith 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

Hi, Apologies for non-operational content, but I was wondering if anyone from New Zealand would be going to APRICOT 2003 in Taipei (www.apricot2003.net) If you don't already know, APRICOT is the Asia Pacific's annual Internet Operations conference, tutorial and workshop event; it is also hosts APNIC's open policy meeting, as well as the meetings of many other AP internet related organisations. I'm co-chair of APOPS (www.apops.net) the AP region's operator mailing list (intended to work along the same lines as NANOG, AfNOG, and EOF). The APOPS meeting will be held as part of APRICOT on Wednesday 26th, and I think it would be great if someone from the New Zealand Internet community could give a short (max 15 minutes) presentation on local Internet activities. I'm not looking for anything fantastically detailed, just a general FYI style overview of what's going on. If anyone is interested in helping with this, and is going to APRICOT, please let me know. thanks a lot! philip -- - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: [Xinqu] Re: [was-Xinqu] Re: more on the PDP-11
by Richard Naylor 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

At 02:53 p.m. 20/01/2003 +1300, Bruce Hoult wrote: I don't know why anyone would think that it was kosmos. Kosmos quite clearly announced itself as VAX/VMS when you logged in and *that* isn't going to run on a PDP-11. agreed <sigh> >You didn't answer my questions about what sort of physical ethernet >interface it has (thick or thin), whether it talks TCP/IP, or whether >you've got a Unix for it. And I'll add to that a question about RSTS... it has AUI. the real ethernet. Sorry no *ix for it, nor RSTS. I mainly did real time stuff and that meant RSX or RT-11 (which is what MS-DOS was modelled on, not to confuse with the IBM-360-DOS, or the many other DOS's out there in those days. Add TSX to RT-11 and you have a good clone of RSTS. It has a similar multi login thingy per terminal like Linux . Oh theres more... DRV-11 - parallel interface - if you like building stuff or doing nuclear device testing Analog devices isolated input A/D converter several serial devices (synch) several serial devices (asynch) with modem controls. And no, I'm not parting with my industrial-11 (aka PDP-11/05) front panel with the flashing lights. there were only two of those in NZ if that. rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: [Xinqu] Re: more on the PDP-11
by Richard Naylor 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

At 10:41 a.m. 20/01/2003 +1300, Lin Nah wrote: >IS this machine one of those used for the wcc freenet? NO. its my own private family PDP-11 >I seem to remember some talk about kosmos being given to someone >who would appreciate it etc but I could be mistaken Sorry - I wasn't in WCC IT when Kosmos was decomm'd rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: more on the PDP-11
by Richard Naylor 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

At 10:41 a.m. 20/01/2003 +1300, Lin Nah wrote: >IS this machine one of those used for the wcc freenet? > >I seem to remember some talk about kosmos being given to someone >who would appreciate it etc but I could be mistaken No - this is my own home machine. Kosmos was actually 3 different machines. The first was a Vax 750 from the MED (We merged MED and WCC data centers - thats when the fiber got started), the second was a MicroVaxII (later a small cluster) and finally a MicroVax 3400. While I closed CityNet down, I didn't dispose of the gear, I was working in Economic Development by then and it wasn't my issue. I know it stayed active for some time as it was the main dial in box for WCC staff rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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OT: Surplus equipment available
by Richard Naylor 18 Jan '03

18 Jan '03

Howdy all, I have some mature equipment available. 1x PDP 11/73 (also 11/23 and 11/03 processors) 4 MB RAM (i think - lots of other modules) 8 serial ports (DLV-11J - no modem controls) 2x 8 inch floppy RX-01 (128k I think) 3x RL01 Removable disk drives (5MB each) (lots of cartridges/packs) 1x DEQNA ethernet lotsa other modules, including a unibus tester and Q-bus stalk card (for scoping cards) I also have a Tape drive controller and a card reader, altho VUW currently have the card reader. It currently runs RT-11/TSX and I also have copies of RSX-11M V3.2 or V4. There is word processing (Lex-11) Fortran and Basic and probably others I've forgotten. An old DECUS database manager. And yes it has games like Space Invaders and Adventure (read "Soul of a New MAchine by Tracey Kidder") My kids grew up with it, so theres a classy menu system that asks quiz questions everytime you select something, especially the games. I think theres my old UUCP mail system on it as well as a DECUS one that doesn't network. Its all original DEC kit complete with service manuals and circuit diagrams and diagnostic progs. I used to work for a DEC OEM, so its been well looked after. Any interest ? rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZNOG 2003 - Vote Count So Far
by Donald Neal 16 Jan '03

16 Jan '03

Days since I asked people who expect to attend to express a preference: 8 Preferring UniForum: 8 Preferring Waikato: 8 Will attend either, not worried: 2 Volunteering to help: 1 The University of Waikato expect an attendance from them which is about five higher if the Waikato option is chosen. I don't see a clear outcome here. I think I'll go on holiday. Then again, what if we did both - UniForum NZ in July 2003 and Waikato in February 2004? - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fwd: Message Stopped by: Junk Mail Inbound
by Simon Blake 15 Jan '03

15 Jan '03

Woohoo! A new low, I'm a junkmailer :-). Preemptive apology for prior message being off charter, I guess I won't hold my breath for applications from Safecom users. Cheers Si ----- Forwarded message from admin(a)safecom.co.nz ----- From: admin(a)safecom.co.nz To: simon(a)citylink.co.nz CC: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:24:37 +1300 Subject: Message Stopped by: Junk Mail Inbound The Safecom SMTP Relay has quarantined this email due to the triggering of the Junk Mail policy. The email has been forwarded to the Mail Administrator of the intended recipients company. This Mail Administrator will forward the mail to the recipient should it be deemed as legitimate email i.e not Chainmail, Virus Hoax or Jokes. Message: BB0056338e.00000001.mml From: simon(a)citylink.co.nz To: <deleted>@hpac.govt.nz Subject: Re: NZNOG 2003 This is an automated response. Do not reply to this message. If you have any further questions please contact the intended recipient to confirm whether they received the email. ----- End forwarded message ----- - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: NZNOG 2003
by Simon Blake 15 Jan '03

15 Jan '03

Evening all On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 11:00:26PM +1300, Richard Naylor said: > The other issue is that unless we get Si his helper (yes there is a job > going), then I suspect you get me or Si, but not both. As Richard so subtly alludes, Citylink is hiring, to replace some of Jonny (who's bunked off on his OE) and some of me (who's moving to other projects within Citylink). I prefer not to think of the new role as Si's little helper, rather as a fully functional member of the tech team at Citylink, but well, whatever works. To keep it brief, I'm not going to quote a full job description of what we're after (although rest assured, one does exist), yawl get to guess, based on what you know of what Jonny and I did/do. I will observe a couple of points though: - it's a job in Wellington. There will be the odd trip to Auckland to stare at Level 48, but otherwise, it's Wellington. No whining. - willingness to do (occasional) outside plant work. That means a drivers license, and an ability to cope with ladders/heights. Likewise, the network in Wellington is constrained over a fairly small area, so be emotionally prepared to walk places occasionally as part of your work. - runumeration is flexible - we're a community network, with not a great deal of cash to fling around, but we will pay to get the right person. Other than that, it's a cool place to work, small team (15-20 people), lots of variety and challenge, flexibility, yadayadayada. CV's in *sane* formats to jobs(a)citylink.co.nz by the end of next week (Fri 24 2002). Please feel free to pass this on to whomever may be interested. Cheers Si - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Internet Traffic Report
by Donald Neal 14 Jan '03

14 Jan '03

Dean Pemberton sent this to the list: - - - - - heh - things like this are intersting but you have to be careful who you give them to. MRTG is easy for people to misunderestimate =) Evaluating the whole internet as a number could be so much worse. I love this bit though Australia Total Routers: 7 Now Aus/NZ is small - but thats a bit much =) Dean On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 14:04, Michael Newbery wrote: > THWACK! THWACK! THWACK! > > I meant http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm > > That other is an internal site which you can't see. Pasted the wrong > URL into the email. > > MUMBLE... > -- > Michael Newbery IP Architect TelstraClear Limited ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZNOG 2003 - Vote Count So Far
by Donald Neal 14 Jan '03

14 Jan '03

Days since I asked people who expect to attend to express a preference: 5 Preferring UniForum: 8 Preferring Waikato: 4 Will attend either, not worried: 1 Volunteering to help: 1 On the other hand, The University of Waikato expect an attendance from them which is about five higher if the Waikato option is chosen. My main conclusion so far is that I haven't heard from very many people. - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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24dBi Dish Req.
by Matthew G Brown 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Does anyone out there have a 24-26dBi 802.11 Grid Antenna surpuss. Required for backhaul to customer while Telstra sort out their problems. Best Regards Matthew G Brown Janator & Cleaning Services NZ Wireless LTD Http://www.nzwireless.co.nz Matt(a)NZWireless.co.nz

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Re: prerequisites for NZNOG 2003
by Tony McGregor 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

On 12 Jan 2003, Dean Pemberton wrote: > Can we have printed brochers to hand out to our customers. (I told them > there was a webpage) Sure. Normally either in the bag, or on a literature table. Or on the desks first day. > Can you send us the webpage URL so that we can link to it from our > Events calender (Told them it was coming) Certainly, there will be a web site. C.F. for example the pam2003 one. www.pam2003.org > Can we get the list of attendees and contact details (Yeah right, but > they will ask) Most of the conferences I got to provide attendees and affiliation but not contact details. > Can we put up advertising around the venue, how much and for how long. > etc etc etc etc etc A sponsor could. Tony - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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