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Re: Thanks to all who attended the Conference
by Dean Pemberton 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

The story I heard was thata Vixie wanted wireless to his room. Now we all know how likely that is to happen in NZ. Geek Conference or no Geek conference =) The other 100 people there had no problem getting email over the wireless that was around. Dean On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 08:23, Joe Abley wrote: > > On Saturday, July 13, 2002, at 10:48 , Joe Abley wrote: > > > ... and the mysterious absense of 802.11b wireless access in the > > important areas of the hotel (lobby, bar, conference rooms). > > Having heard the subsequent thanks to you for providing 802.11b gear, > perhaps I misunderstood the criticism (maybe it was "transit through > telecom sucks", or "jetstream is wildly unsuitable for use in a > conference full of geeks attached at 11M"). > > Vixie apparently found it more efficient to travel back to Peter's house > on the north shore and get his mail there, for example, than to do so in > the hotel. > > Anyway, congratulations on getting something off the ground. I wish I > had been there :) > > > Joe > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Thanks to all who attended the Conference
by Ewen McNeill 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

In message <Pine.WNT.4.44.0207151423220.2740-100000(a)den2>, Juha Saarinen writes: >On 15 Jul 2002, Dean Pemberton wrote: >> The story I heard was thata Vixie wanted wireless to his room. > >I gather it was his modem that didn't like the hotel switchboard (or the >other way round, really). I'm not sure which hotel he was staying in when having trouble (for complicated reasons conference attendees ended up in two different hotels) -- I was able to dial out of the Hotel Grand Chancellor, but only with a very long timeout (over 60 seconds) to allow the modem negotiation to work. Got about 28K8 connections IIRC. The Centra hotel appeared to have analogue POTS lines into the rooms, but I didn't try dialing out there. The wireless OTOH was very handy -- thanks to those who arranged it. (Even if the ADSL did occassionally have problems it all mostly worked, and was very handy.) The wireless definitely worked as far as the chairs outside the bar, as I saw someone using it there; inside the bar I don't know, but it was close enough it probably should have worked. >But, seeing that most hotels (outside NZ at least) offer a bedside >Ethernet port, something should've been arranged IMO. You must have a very different definition of "most" to the one I use. I've never actually seen this, even in hotels that advertise it. (Comment from reception at one hotel when I'd booked into a room advertising this "oh, we don't do that". No, I wasn't pleased.) Ewen - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Thanks to all who attended the Conference
by Mike Savory 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

Yeah Thanks to everyone that was involved in organising it Rodger volunteered to run one next year (probably in Auckland) as well as being elected as vice president on Saturday night. Start thinking of topics now... Mike Savory On Sunday, July 14, 2002, at 12:22 PM, Andy Linton wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Dean Pemberton wrote: > > > Just wanted to say a quick thanks to everyone who attended the > conference. > I'm sure much more will be posted about specific subjects later. > > I hope you all enjoyed the sessions that you attended. > I'm sorry I couldn't stay around longer > > I'd also like to thank Dean, Donald and all the others who made the > conference possible. I too am sorry I couldn't stay around longer but > I'd > guess from what I saw on Thursday that another of these would be a good > idea. > > andy - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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More thanks ...
by Tim John 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

I had a great few days and would also like to thank everyone involved in the organisation AND everyone who attended. It was good to put a face to some of the names that appear on the list. The speakers were excellent and if the same caliber can be attracted next and subsequent years, I think it could be a start of something successful. Unfortunately, I missed the evening entertainment so didn't have a chance to drink with folk or dent 2Day.com's bar tab ! However, Thursday Night Curry in Wellington could be on the cards for that ... Thanks again all. Tim Domainz. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Uniforum 2002 Conference
by Mark Foster 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

Just a quick note to say thanks to all those NZNOG'rs whos efforts helped make the Uniforum/NZNOG Conference a success. Nice to put faces to some of the names which crop up here from time to time. Off the top of my head and by no means officially, but thanks are owed to some NZNOG-Specific folks who helped us out: Citilink (802.11 gear, which was well used) Dean - for helping arrange the above. Nathan Mercer, Microsoft NZ - The use of a Data Projector. Steve Philips, ICONZ - The use of a Data Projector, and also the Packeteer (For the record, we did 1.1GB for the 4 day period, so that wasnt so bad on a JS1200 connection was it. :) The packeteer most certainly helped keep utilisation reasonable. Roger De Salis / Cisco, for getting Paul Vixie out. He certainly kept everyones attention and is a fairly easy speaker to listen to. Martin Kealey - for organising the whole thing. Probably also need to thank Peace Software for letting him do so much during work hours :) Lin Nah - for much needed motivation and assistance in the logistics side. + Any others who I havnt mentioned. See you all at the next one. :) Mark Foster - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Thanks to all who attended the Conference
by Dean Pemberton 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

Just wanted to say a quick thanks to everyone who attended the conference. I'm sure much more will be posted about specific subjects later. I hope you all enjoyed the sessions that you attended. I'm sorry I couldn't stay around longer Dean - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Heads up to Xtra and people receiving mail from Xtra
by Simon Byrnand 10 Jul '02

10 Jul '02

Hi All, Just noticed this morning, that Xtra seem to be sending mail from some "new" mailserver ip addresses recently, which include: 210.86.15.144 210.86.15.145 210.86.15.147 (and probably others) Unfortunately that whole /24 seems to be blacklisted by several different spamlists as either a "dialup range" or as a source of spam. See http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi?addr=210.86.15.144 for one example. (Note: slow link) So if you use any ip address based spam blocking you may not be receiving mail from xtra anymore until you allow that range..... :) Regards, Simon Byrnand iGRIN Internet - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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video at uniforum
by Joe Abley 10 Jul '02

10 Jul '02

Is anybody recording any of the nznog track sessions at uniforum, in some digital fashion? If so, and anybody needs/wants a US mirror for the resulting data, let me know. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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(Fwd) The operator of the largest IX in NZ
by Sue Leader 09 Jul '02

09 Jul '02

Greetings If anyone is interested would they get in touch direct with Kyoko. chrs Sue ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: "Kyoko Day" <kyoko(a)apia.org> To: <exe.dir(a)internetnz.net.nz> Subject: The operator of the largest IX in NZ Date sent: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:37:33 +1000 Dear Sue Leader, As continuation from the last APRICOT, Philip Smith of Cisco, Akira Kato of NSPIXP2/6 of WIDE Project, and I are organizing a meeting of IX operators during the next IETF in Yokohama and would like to know if one of the IX operators in NZ can attend our meeting. The below is a proposed list of agenda for the upcoming IX Operators Meeting in Yokohama on 16 July, 2002. Paul Vixie of former PAIX in place of Stephen Stuart, Bill Manning, Bill Woodcock, and other operators and the major vendors will be attending the meeting. This will be a gathering of the major IX *operators.* In this meeting, we are also expecting the other major IXs in AP regions such as JPIX, TWIX, TWNAP, KT, KIX, and Dacom, etc. Date/Time: July 16, 2002 -7:30am - 9:00am Place: Room 513, Pacifico Conference Center, Yokohama, Japan Purpose: 1) to form a close relations among the operators of the critical IX infrastructure, 2) to find an efficient and effective way to coordinate and collaborate among the operators, especially in the area of security, 3) to exchange information, share experiences, and try to find a solution to the common problem, and 4) to receive your input about our future activities. Participants: IX operators of the major IXs that are critical to the Internet infrastructure and individuals whose expertise and IX related activities go across the continents. Proposed Agenda: 1. Open the meeting - Background and the purpose of the meeting 2. Introduction of the participants 3. Agenda Bashing 4. Presentation and Discussion Items (a) A list of known IX operators and newly established IXs (b) IX Status Report by the participants (c) Discussion of future activities 5. Any Other Business 6. Close the meeting We welcome your ideas and suggestions for the upcoming meeting. In the event you will not be able to attend the meeting, please feel free to let us know by email to kato(a)wide.ad.jp or kyoko(a)apia.org. The information is also available at http://www.apia.org. Thank you in advance, and please let me know if someone from the largest IX in NZ can participate. We look forward to hearing from you soon. Regards, Akira Kato - WIDE Project/University of Tokyo Kyoko Day - APIA ______________________________________ Kyoko Day - Secretary General Asia & Pacific Internet Association (APIA) http://www.apia.org ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- Sue Leader - Executive Director InternetNZ Voice: +64-4-472-1600 Fax: +64-4-472-1207 Level 4, Economous Building, 4 Bond Street (P.O.Box 11-881) Wellington http://www.internetnz.net.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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CUG
by Philip D'Ath 06 Jul '02

06 Jul '02

I'm thinking about forming a Cisco Users Group (CUG) in Auckland, and modelling it after other CUGs such as http://www.cisco-users.org/. I know I will have the support of Cisco Systems, and Cisco's distributors. What I'm not sure about is how much interest there is out there for such an idea among the Cisco populous. I'm not aware of anything like this currently in NZ. Is anyone else aware of such a usergroup? I would like the CUG to be for engineering people, not sales people. Based on other CUGs, common things that the CUG would do are: * Technology presentations (e,g. Understanding IPSec, Queueing Options, etc) * Study groups, for people seeking Cisco Qualifications * Solutions that people have found to problems that take more than 30s to describe * Discussion groups (perhaps IP in NZ, peering, APE, etc). * Demos of new products (the kind where your allowed to touch the boxs). I would like the meetings to be once a month, and I'll probably ask a different distributor/Cisco/vendor/reseller to sponsor coke/beer/pizza each time. I can probably manage to do a lot of presentations myself to get things going, but I don't profess to being an expert in every field, and I'd hate to think I was preaching to people who knew more than myself (which I would be if no one offered me any support). So what do you think. Would I be wasting my time? Philip D'Ath, BCMS, MCP, CCNA, CCDA. http://www.ifm.net.nz/

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Conference Schedule clash
by Mike Savory 06 Jul '02

06 Jul '02

Hi all I noticed that the Citylink presentation has been scheduled at the same time as the DDoS one. (Wacking the Moles) vs (Distributed Denial of Service: The current state and counter measures) Any chance of changing this (the conference looks pretty full though...) Mike - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Advance notice: Invitation to join NZ delegation to APEC TEL26 & associated Security Workshop and Training events
by Frank March 04 Jul '02

04 Jul '02

This message is being distributed to the following mailing lists: GOVIS, Internetnz-members, Ecommerce-contacts, NZNOG. [Apologies for any duplications] I will send follow-up messages on this topic only to anyone who registers interest by replying directly to frank.march(a)med.govt.nz As someone interested in the development of ecommerce, the Internet and related technologies, you are invited to join the New Zealand official delegation to the 26th meeting of the APEC Telecommunications and Information Working Group (TEL26) which will be held in Moscow, Russia from 19 to 23 August 2002. Information about the meeting will be available later on a dedicated website but in the meantime there is some information available on the main APEC TEL website at http://www.apectelwg.org/apec/main.html. The meeting programme will be held in conjunction with a number of associated seminars and workshops (on 19 an 20 August) which increase opportunities for making contacts and bilateral discussions. Of possible wide interest, there are at two security events timed to coincide with TEL26. A two-day workshop on training to combat cyber terrorism and crime, to be hosted and funded by USA, will take place following TEL26 and a two-day meeting between representatives of the European Electronic Signatures Standards Initiative (EESSI) and the TEL e-Security Task Group is proposed to take place prior to TEL26 (this meeting will be funded by EESSI). APEC TEL is one of the most productive APEC working groups and has a very strong private sector presence. It is very active in promoting electronic commerce as well as fostering projects in online security and PKI, telecommunications policy and regulation, broadband dissemination and take-up, research and educational projects and many other relevant areas. The New Zealand delegations to previous meetings of the TEL have included a number of private sector members as well as officials from government agencies. Please note that there is no registration fee for APEC TEL meetings, and the cost of at least some meals are met by sponsors, however delegates are expected to meet their own travel and accommodation costs. The delegation reports from TEL23, TEL24 and TEL25 may be found at along with other information about APEC activities at http://www.ecommerce.govt.nz/international/index.html Please contact me if you are interested in joining the delegation or if you would like any further information. And please pass this information on to anyone else you think might be interested. Frank March Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658 Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Anybody heard of these guys ?
by Simon Byrnand 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

Just to change the topic momentarily away from conference registrations etc to more technical matters.... :-) A while back I remember a bit of discussion about a "personal firewall" program that automatically sent out abuse(a)domain emails whenever it detected "intrusion attempts" that was really starting to get up the nose of system admins everywhere.... Yesterday I got a strong sense of Deja Vu when I received the following email to abuse@ (details xxx'ed to protect the innocent :) -------------------8<--------------------- Complaint ID: [securepipe.com #xxxxxx] The following is a complaint against an IP or domain which appeared in our logs, indicating possible network abuse. If you have received this report in error, please forward it to the appropriate party or let us know. A user, apparently from your network, probed port 139 (NETBIOS) on the IP appearing in the log except below. The port in question is commonly used for Windows networking, and thus the probe may represent a misconfigured client or an active attempt to gain unauthorized access to the target. All timestamps below are in UTC -0000 (Greenwich Mean Time) Jul 3 03:14:56 ca-gw kernel: Packet log: inpETH2 DENY eth2 PROTO=6 x.x.x.x:1026 x.x.x.x:139 L=48 S=0x00 I=64034 F=0x4000 T=103 SYN (#25) Jul 3 03:14:59 ca-gw kernel: Packet log: inpETH2 DENY eth2 PROTO=6 x.x.x.x:1026 x.x.x.x:139 L=48 S=0x00 I=547 F=0x4000 T=103 SYN (#25) Jul 3 03:15:05 ca-gw kernel: Packet log: inpETH2 DENY eth2 PROTO=6 x.x.x.x:1026 x.x.x.x:139 L=48 S=0x00 I=4643 F=0x4000 T=103 SYN (#25) Jul 3 03:15:17 ca-gw kernel: Packet log: inpETH2 DENY eth2 PROTO=6 x.x.x.x:1026 x.x.x.x:139 L=48 S=0x00 I=11811 F=0x4000 T=103 SYN (#25) We appreciate your assistance in resolving this matter. -- SecurePipe Incident Response Team Tel: +1 608 294 6940 Fax: +1 608 294 6950 (attn: IRT) incident.response(a)securepipe.com -------------------8<--------------------- Now I don't know about anyone else, but this email looks like an automatically generated report if I ever saw one...although this time comming from a linux firewall log. The question is should I be taking this seriously, or ignoring it. The fact that the "complaint" had an ID number suggested they may have a system like spamcop where you can quickly log in and address the issue on their website. Unless I'm blind, they don't have anything like that on their site, only lots of promotional material for their companys products/services. (Does that make this email effectively unsolicited advertising ? :) Then there is the question of severity - I'd be interested to know where most sysadmins draw the line between accidental and harmless connections and outright mallicious activity. IMHO a single connection attempt to port 139 doesn't fall into the category of mallicious, and could indeed be totally accidental. I can think of a number of actions in windows that will inadvertently cause it to try to make a netbios connection to a remote host - sometimes you have to go out of your way to STOP the stupid thing from doing that...(netbios hostname resolution anyone?) I'm definately not trying to downplay the importance of security, but I can see a lot of nuisance value if we get to the point where any connection to a non-desired port is automatically considered mallicious, and every man and his dog has their firewall automatically firing off emails every time somebody tries to connect to them on a port they weren't expecting connections on... Anyway, I'd be interested in hearing from anyone else who has dealt with "securepipe.com", or just peoples opinions on the matter of automated firewall abuse emailing in general... Regards, Simon Byrnand iGRIN Internet - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Beer!!!!!!
by Dean Pemberton 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

In the spirit of Networking and Beer (Yep it's in the AUP), I'd just like to invite anyone who is in Wellington on Thursday along to Curry. A few of the networking people around town have been doing Thursday night curries for a few weeks now (ever since I flew in, maybe a bit before) and it's become a bit of a thing. If anyone wants to join us for Curry/Chat/Beer on Thursday, then get yourself to ThursdayNightCurry.com, check out the rules etc and we'll see you there. Dean - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Uniforum registration
by Tim John 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

I actually went ahead and enrolled my colleague yesterday anyway, but was happily surprised that for the three days, the total was only $628. Much appreciated ! C U there ... Tim -----Original Message----- From: martin(a)kurahaupo.gen.nz [mailto:martin(a)kurahaupo.gen.nz] Sent: Thursday, 4 July 2002 5:32 a.m. To: tim.john(a)domainz.net.nz Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Uniforum registration I've fixed the problem with the descriptive text (some days ago now, but I thought I'd better let people know). We've also had a re-think about the pricing, and have decided to continue a discounted rate for a while: Until midnight Monday the rate is $399 for two days and $157 for each addition day, including lunch but not dinner or accommodation. A few people booked at the "full" rates earlier this week; you're welcome to re-book at the reduced rate -- but use the same booking reference number or we'll wind up charging you for both! -Martin On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Donald Neal wrote: > The rates now being advertised on the web site are not early bird > rates. Those ceased to be available once the first fifty registrations > were in. I believe work to be under way at present to fix the text on > the web site. Tim John" <tim.john(a)domainz.net.nz, on 07/01/02 11:20 wrote: > I'm trying to register a friend for the Uniforum next week and, > according to the website, there are still 'earlybird' places left, but > to register for three days cost's nearly $1,000. > > I registered a few weeks back and it came to a third of that. Was that > at a 'really, really, really earlybird discount' ? -- "War against Terror" is an oxymoron - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Uniforum registration
by Donald Neal 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

Tim, The rates now being advertised on the web site are not early bird rates. Those ceased to be available once the first fifty registrations were in. I believe work to be under way at present to fix the text on the web site. - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal Special Operations Network Delivery Telecom New Zealand Ltd >>> "Tim John" <tim.john(a)domainz.net.nz> 07/01/02 11:20 >>> I'm trying to register a friend for the Uniforum next week and, according to the website, there are still 'earlybird' places left, but to register for three days cost's nearly $1,000. I registered a few weeks back and it came to a third of that. Was that at a 'really, really, really earlybird discount' ? Tim - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Maxnet
by Juha Saarinen 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Geoff wrote: > Hi Juha, > > Abuse and postmaster(a)maxnet should work.. I see... they do work, at maxnet.co.nz, but not maxnet.net.nz. Oh well. :-) > however if you gimme the details I'll suss it out for you. Cheers, will do. -- Juha Saarinen - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Maxnet
by Juha Saarinen 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Could someone from there contact me with an admin address that I could use? One of Maxnet's customers has come down with W32/Yaha.E. Furthermore, it'd be cool if Maxnet could add a couple of aliases, such as: hostmaster postmaster abuse -- Regards, Juha C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. This posting, or one like it, is sent to all subscribers each month. NZNOG 2002 HURRY! HURRY! MAKE REGISTRATION FAST! Sorry, got a bit carried away there. A strong NZNOG programme makes up much of the content of the UniForum NZ conference to be held next week at the Auckland Airport Centre hotel. You can read the full programme and register at http://www.uniforum.org.nz/ . Yes, you could read the programme there and not register, but surely you wouldn't. Overseas speakers appear thanks to Cisco, Ericsson, Juniper and The University of Waikato. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators rather than by most customers. Auckland Peering Exchange See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering Exchange and those connected there. About This Mailing List This list has around 340 subscribers, a number currently more or less static. You may only post to the list from an address subscribed to one of the lists described below. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Telecom NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations, nor the administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrator remains happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. Subscribing to the List To subscribe to the NZNOG list, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, where the body of the message reads subscribe nznog Digest Mailing List If you don't wish to receive postings as they are sent, you can instead subscribe to the nznog-digest mailiing list, on which all postings are sent out in a single "digest" every couple of days. Post-only Mailing List An address from which you wish to post, but which will not receive messages from the list, may be subscribed to nznog-postonly. You will presumably want to have another address subscribed to the main nznog list. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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OT: Wanted: Data Projectors for Uniforum
by Mark Foster 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Hi folks, apologies for the offtopic nature of this post. We're in need of a couple of Datashow units for the Uniforum conference this year. The rates ive obtained for rental units so far arent particularly brilliant - ive managed to get one, we ideally would like to have three for the entire period Thursday-Sunday.. If anyone on this list is in a position to assist, im authorised to use a free conference registration as a bargaining chip :) Thats around $400 value for the four days worth. Note that two days are a weekend also. :) If anyone has a unit they could possibly loan us for the duration of the conference, please contact me directly either via email (offlist) or call me directly on 021 499 368. Auckland area preferred, and im happy make any other delivery arrangements. Thanks, Mark Foster Uniforum 2002 Conference Committee - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Uniforum registration
by Tim John 30 Jun '02

30 Jun '02

I'm trying to register a friend for the Uniforum next week and, according to the website, there are still 'earlybird' places left, but to register for three days cost's nearly $1,000. I registered a few weeks back and it came to a third of that. Was that at a 'really, really, really earlybird discount' ? Tim - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: CUG
by robbie_gernandt＠wilsonandhorton.co.nz 30 Jun '02

30 Jun '02

Yip, I'm in We would definitely qualify as a "multi-vendor" customer, but I would be keen to join in any case. regards Robbie Gernandt Network Consultant Wilson & Horton Ltd CCNA, NNCSS *************************************************************************** This may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Wilson & Horton Limited. For more information on Wilson & Horton please visit our web site at http://www.wilsonandhorton.co.nz ***************************************************************************

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RE: CUG
by Allister Clarke 30 Jun '02

30 Jun '02

I suppose I should mention publically that I am interested. CCNP here I come ... :-) Allister BSc CCNA -----Original Message----- From: Philip D'Ath [mailto:pid(a)ifm.net.nz] Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2002 1:24 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Cc: blakjak(a)blakjak.net Subject: RE: CUG The problem I face is that I would need to invest a lot of time initially to make it a success. Once it is running, other people would probably step forward to assist. Ideally SIGs (special interest groups) would form off the main club. I have a lot of experience with Cisco equipment, so I can provide the skills required to make it work. I can't make it happen if people bring along questions about 5 different vendors equipment. -----Original Message----- > > Because I'm passionate about Cisco networking equipment, and I > > think I can get a good sized crowd coming along. > > If I made it a NUG (Network Users Group), then it could swell it > > be something huge. ... Im definately interested in upskilling in this area so Id be in - but id be somewhat cautious if the people coordinating an event were so pro-one-manufacturer that they wound up being anti-the-others, you end up with a rather narrow field of expertise... (Shadows of MCSE? Or is that inappropriate? :P) Im all for it, but id prefer a vendor-neutral concept. Of course theres no reason why Cisco cant feature in a big way - but lets not close the idea off to other vendors. Otherwise anyone who wishes to retain a broader view, needs to find multiple training/user group sources instead of just one. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Klez Virus
by Philip D'Ath 29 Jun '02

29 Jun '02

I made a posting to this group within the last 24 hours, which I don't commonly do. I am now constantly getting copies of the Klez virus emailed to me. I think it is likely that someone on this list has the virus. Could be a coincidence. Philip D'Ath, BCMS, MCP, CCNA, CCDA. http://www.ifm.net.nz/

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RE: CUG
by Malcolm Lockyer 29 Jun '02

29 Jun '02

Personally I think we should model it on what the "CHUG" website has to say... "Group meetings are held on the last Wednesday of every other month. They often consist of a one-hour technical presentation and a brief product update, after which the group splits into several informal discussion groups, allowing members to interact with their industry peers." http://www.chug-info.com/ Malcolm >From: "Philip D'Ath" <pid(a)ifm.net.nz> >To: <jabley(a)automagic.org> >CC: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >Subject: RE: CUG >Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:55:46 +1200 > > Because I'm passionate about Cisco networking equipment, and I >think I can get a good sized crowd coming along. > If I made it a NUG (Network Users Group), then it could swell it >be something huge. > > I have good contacts at Cisco, and the Cisco distributors. I >can arrange to get demo equipment for a night to show people, and to let >people touch. > > I have Cisco qualifications, and can help to get study groups >going. > >-----Original Message----- >On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 01:20:11AM +1200, Philip D'Ath wrote: > > I'm thinking about forming a Cisco Users Group (CUG) in > > Auckland, and modelling it after other CUGs such as > > http://www.cisco-users.org/. > >Just out of interest, if you were going to the effort of organising >something like this, why would you make it vendor-specific? > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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