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FW: Update to "Code Red" Worm. Its a date bomb, not time.
by Greg Clare 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

>-----Original Message----- >From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:marc(a)eeye.com] >Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 8:55 a.m. >To: BUGTRAQ >Subject: Update to "Code Red" Worm. Its a date bomb, not time. > > >Thanks to Eric from Symantec for tossing us a note about the >worm being Date >based and not Time based. > >We made an error in our last analysis and said the worm would start >attacking whitehouse.gov based on a certain time. In reality >its based on a >date (the 20th UTC) which is tomorrow. > >If the worm infects your system between the 1st and the 19th >it will attempt >to deface the infected servers web page or try to propogate >itself to other >systems. On the 20th all infected threads will attempt to attack >www.whitehouse.gov. This seems to continue until the worm is >removed from >the infected system. > >Any new infection that happens between the 20th and 28th will >most likely be >someone "hand infecting" your system as all other worms should >be attacking >whitehouse.gov. If for some reason you are infected between >the 20th and the >28th then the worm will begin attacking whitehouse.gov without >trying to >infect other systems. This attack will continue indefinitly. > >The following are rough numbers, but we felt that it was important to >illustrate the affects this worm can _possibly_ have. > >The worm has a timeline like this: > >day of the month: >1-19: infect other hosts using the worm >20-27: attack whitehouse.gov forever >28-end of month: eternal sleep > >Presumably, this could restart at any point in a new month again. > >Also, some stats for the attack: > >Each infection has 100 threads >Each thread is going to send about 100k, a byte at a time, >which means you >have a (40 for ip + 1 for each byte) which means you have 4.1 >megs of data >per thread >100 threads * 4.1megs = 410 Megabytes >This will be repeated again every 4.5 hours or so > >Remember, each host can be infected multiple times, meaning >that a single >host can send 410MB * # of infections. > >We have had reports between 15 thousand and 196 thousand unique hosts >infected with the "Code Red" worm. However, there has been >cross infection >and we have heard reports of at least 300+ thousand >infections/instances >(machines with multiple infections etc..) of this worm. > >If there are 300 thousand infections then that means you have >(300,000 * 410 >megabytes) that is going to be attempted to be flooded against >whitehouse.gov every 4 and a half hours. If this is true and >the worm "works >as advertised" then the fact that whitehouse.gov goes offline >is only the >begining of what _can_ possibly happen... > >---- > >I am actually writing this part of the eMail about 45 minutes after the >first part because our Internet connection here in california >has been going >up and down. We have also heard reports of internet >connectivity going down >in parts of northern california and new york. > >Signed, >eEye Digital Security >T.949.349.9062 >F.949.349.9538 >http://eEye.com/Retina - Network Security Scanner >http://eEye.com/Iris - Network Traffic Analyzer >http://eEye.com/SecureIIS - Stop known and unknown IIS vulnerabilities > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: Full analysis of the .ida "Code Red" worm.
by Tony Wicks 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

-----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 10:12 AM To: tony.wicks(a)telstrasaturn.co.nz Subject: RE: Full analysis of the .ida "Code Red" worm. Well, Tony, to be quite frank, you annoy me even more. Who the fuck appointed you as the content-cop on NZNOG, and told you to stalk me with rude replies each time I post something? Nobody else complains about my posts, and I bet you haven't got the courage to be rude to anyone else. -- Juha :: -----Original Message----- :: From: Tony Wicks [mailto:tony.wicks(a)telstrasaturn.co.nz] :: Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 10:07 :: To: Juha Saarinen :: Subject: RE: Full analysis of the .ida "Code Red" worm. :: :: :: Well, it's a bit rich, you posting back to the list telling :: me to cut a few :: lines out of a posting when you send so many useless posts :: there. Quite :: frankly, that annoyed me quite a bit ! :: :: -----Original Message----- :: From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] :: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 9:59 AM :: To: tony.wicks(a)telstrasaturn.co.nz; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz :: Subject: RE: Full analysis of the .ida "Code Red" worm. :: :: :: Don't exaggerate Tony. :: :: -- :: :: Juha :: :: :: -----Original Message----- :: :: From: Tony Wicks [mailto:tony.wicks(a)telstrasaturn.co.nz] :: :: Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 09:57 :: :: To: Juha Saarinen; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz :: :: Subject: RE: Full analysis of the .ida "Code Red" worm. :: :: :: :: :: :: Ok, tell you what, I'll trim my posts if you cut your posts :: :: to just relevant :: :: stuff, not 10-20 mails a day of off topic drivel, hows that :: :: for a deal. :: :: :: --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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SPAM/SCAM alert
by Michael Newbery 19 Jul '01

19 Jul '01

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Problems accessing sites in china
by Lin Nah 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

HI all I wonder if anyone here has had complains from their customers/helpdesk regarding inability to access certain chinese websites. For example the last 5 hops of a trace to www.china.com shows it disappearing after 201.176.155.238 15 hkt.ser4-0.core1.sun.cais.net (63.216.17.73) 245.372 ms 240.922 ms 237.96 0 ms 16 202.84.249.29 (202.84.249.29) 236.565 ms 235.41 ms 234.18 ms 17 207.176.97.134 (207.176.97.134) 245.263 ms 235.18 ms 238.485 ms 18 f5-1.tmh12.hkt.net (205.252.128.238) 245.80 ms 239.694 ms 243.223 ms 19 210.176.155.238 (210.176.155.238) 244.516 ms 246.827 ms 235.416 ms 20 * * * There's also been problems with some other sites ( can't remember names but perhaps one of them is cn.yahoo.com) Any ideas? regards Lin --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: IPv6...Fact or Fiction?
by Gavin Cato 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

>> NAT is a broken idea, as are firewalls. Just because it works, >> doesn't change this. I wouldn't call it broken. A band-aid solution perhaps but not broken. It does what it intended to do quite well. Gav --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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This list, or an alternative? was RE: Julian Angelo - Conclusion
by Frank March 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

I am not a network operative, yet I lurk here (with intent, since I v occasionally post). I have always considered that off-topic posts (like, I suppose, this one) come into the permissible area, as allowed for in the mention of beer in the AUP. I have always had an excellent range of helpful responses from NZNOG subscribers when I have posed policy related questions to this list even though they are unrelated to beer. I find being on this list extremely useful. At the same time, a point made in another post in the parent thread by Matt Camp about a non-operational companion list could be considered although I dont think the noise level is that serious. Frank March Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean Pemberton [SMTP:dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz] > Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2001 11:43 > To: Matt Camp > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: Julian Angelo - Conclusion > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 11:22:41AM +1200, Matt Camp wrote: > > > > > thirteen in the second. Removing from the count people I believe not > to > > > be staff of network operators, and the subscriber who expressed both > > > > Hrm... good point here. I know I don't have an official sig on this > email > > address, so might have been placed in the 'not a network op' basket > > here... yet I am. > > And I'm not - if anyone thinks that this makes me unsuitable for inclusion > by the 'network operator elite' then let me know and I'll unsubscribe. > > > Dean > --------- > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Could this be why your 827s are retraining?
by Juha Saarinen 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121relnt /800/800yb/rn800yb.htm Resolved Caveats for Release 12.1(5)YB1 This section describes possibly unexpected behavior by software releases prior to Release 12.1(5)YB1 that have been resolved in Release 12.1(5)YB1 and above. CSCdt19816 A router retrains when an LOM is detected-a critical condition message is sent out, resulting in an unnecessary reboot. A LOM alone is not sufficient to require a critical condition message or router reset. This problem is fixed in Cisco IOS Software Release 12.1(5)YB1 My version is: ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.1(1r)XB1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) ROM: C820 Software (C820-Y6-M), Version 12.1(5)YC, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1 -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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unsubscribe nznog
by Melanie McAllister 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

-----Original Message----- From: James Tyson [mailto:james(a)samizdat.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2001 10:13 a.m. To: Juha Saarinen Cc: 'Simon Allard'; 'James Tyson'; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: RE: IPv6...Fact or Fiction? > Yes, yes, but what does that mean? Details, man, details. ;-) > > I have found that with either the Nokia MW1122 and the Cisco 827 plugged > in, my Jetstream connection suffers from "micro outages", usually once a > day. It'd be interesting to discover if these outages are caused by the > adapter or by a fault/flaw in Jetstream. > > Here's what the 827 logs: > > Jul 12 03:00:16 router 23: Jul 12 03:00:16.373 NZ: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: > Interface ATM0, changed state to down > Jul 12 03:00:16 router 24: Jul 12 03:00:16.381 NZ: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: > Interface Virtual-Access1, changed state to down <snip /> Juha, Try "debug atm errors" and email me the output - I'll bet your getting the same thing as me. Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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DNS & email hosting
by Chris Wedgwood 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

I'm looking for a list of people who offer basic DNS and Email hosting. Nothing fancy, basically a service that a few people can use so that <everything>@some.domain.com will end up in their Xtra mailbox. It occurred to me there must be about fifty difference places who can do this, but I've never seen a list of services compiled list who can provide what. Right now, there is no talk of needing mailboxes, web-sites or indeed anything of the sort, but knowing that this is trivially possible is probably worth-while. Does such a list exist? --cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Optical Gig NICs
by Richard Naylor 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

At 10:35 PM 7/17/2001 +1200, Roger De Salis wrote: >Ah, the joys of my favourite and personal network provider..... > >There is one vital fact that has been missed though.... any financial >advantage accrued through the economics espoused above, is completely >negated by the scale of the PC wreckage around Simon's desk. I've >seen it... in fact it run's over two desks....., around the floor >past the aerials, over the carpet.... who needs $25 NIC cards >when you can sidle up to Si's desk and suggest humbly that >"this has been here 6 months.....would you mind if I tested it..." > >Dean can vouch for me, so this email can be seen to vendor >independenet........ Its a part of our policy of encouraging an environment of open experimentation in the area of interoperability, especially between vendors. But to set the record (and the archive) straight we did tidy up - once, when we shifted buildings. richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Optical Gig NICs
by Richard Naylor 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

At 10:35 PM 7/17/2001 +1200, Roger De Salis wrote: >Ah, the joys of my favourite and personal network provider..... > >There is one vital fact that has been missed though.... any financial >advantage accrued through the economics espoused above, is completely >negated by the scale of the PC wreckage around Simon's desk. I've >seen it... in fact it run's over two desks....., around the floor >past the aerials, over the carpet.... who needs $25 NIC cards >when you can sidle up to Si's desk and suggest humbly that >"this has been here 6 months.....would you mind if I tested it..." > >Dean can vouch for me, so this email can be seen to vendor >independenet........ Its a part of our policy of encouraging an environment of open experimentation in the area of interoperability, especially between vendors. But to set the record (and the archive) straight we did tidy up - once, when we shifted buildings. richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Optical Gig NICs
by J S Russell 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Possibly slightly off topic, but does anyone (Hi Richard! Hi Si!) know of a New Zealand source for gigabit nics (optical, not copper) which are (a) not priced at defence department levels, and (b) supported by linux? JSR -- John S Russell | "What the hell is he building in there... Operations Manager | he has a router...and a table saw..." Attica/Callplus NZ | - Tom Waits, Mule Variations --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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IPv6...Fact or Fiction?
by Craig Whitmore 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Hi people.... When do people think we (the Internet) will run out of IPv4 addresses and people will be forced to move over and use IPv6? Or will people use the IPv4 addresses in a much more conservative way? Do you think it will really take off in the near future? Has there really been a standardized IPV6 Format yet? Has anyone actually used it in a production enviornment? Should I "Apply" for some IPv6 addreeses now or will there be plenty of time to implement it? Thanks Craig Whitmore Orcon Internet http://www.orcon.net.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Julian Angelo
by Donald Neal 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

NZNOG People, Just over a year ago, there was discussion on this list of spamming by one Julian Angelo. He has now approached me, asking to have these references removed from the NZNOG archive. It seems that prospective employers who look up his name on the web find these archive entries, a fact which may not be helping his career any. If any network operator has an objection to these entries being removed from the archive, could they please contact me directly. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Administrator --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Optical Gig NICs
by Chris Wedgwood 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 11:11:21PM +1200, Chris Hellberg wrote: is that using that RAW NIC to NIC option in the linux kernel? If you mean Alexey's fastroute stuff, then no. Fast route only makes sense for a router and only works on a very limited number of cards. --cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Optical Gig NICs
by Chris Hellberg 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

>>> "Chris Wedgwood" <cw(a)f00f.org> 07/17/01 10:41p.m. >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 09:40:01PM +1200, Richard Naylor wrote: Dick Smith. Maybe decent was the qualifer......I think we pay $35 for D-Link. The only D-Link cards I've ever used are 530TX or something. They are not even close to what I call decent. What chipset do the ones you have use? Last time I shifted a file from the edit pc to the server (both on GbE) it took 6 minutes for 1.6 Gig. I wonder if I can get a GbE PC card for the laptop ? Ah.. this is why I say decent card. I expect a 100mbps card to run at 100mbps or very near to it. 1.6G in 6 minutes, that's 4.5 megabytes/s or so? Earlier this year I did some testing or various NICs and could sustain over 12 megabytes/s for several hours, even when this data came off a disk one one machine and onto a disk on another machine. is that using that RAW NIC to NIC option in the linux kernel? <<snipped>> --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Julian Angelo
by Lindsay Druett 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

Read a bit of that... you're not kidding. About 5 pages of it.... Hey ! He forgot to mention to his prayer chain about NZNOG ! :: Would it not suffice for Mr Angelo to publish an apology :: here on NZNOG, thus when prospective employers discover his :: chequered past, they will also discover his contrition. http://www.datasync.com/~mbowie/archive29.html -- read a bit of that... seems the NZNOG archives are the least of Mr Angelo's worries. -- Juha --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Julian Angelo
by david＠farrar.com 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

There seem to be a few lessons one can learn from this. 1) Don't spam 2) Don't spam ISPs 3) In case of 1 or 2 apologise 4) Asking for archives to be removed is a bad idea 5) Asking a group of system admins to remove archives is a *really* bad idea 6) This is because anything that can be found about you will and has been 7) Also because the discussion on your request leads to 30 times as many hits as the original thread 8) Juha does have too much time on his hands 9) Refer to 1 10) There is no 10. DPF Gordon Smith wrote: > Good grief!! > > You know Juha, you really have too much free time... :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of Juha Saarinen > > Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2001 12:33 > > To: 'Hamish MacEwan'; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Subject: RE: Julian Angelo > > > > > > :: Would it not suffice for Mr Angelo to publish an apology > > :: here on NZNOG, thus when prospective employers discover his > > :: chequered past, they will also discover his contrition. > > > > http://www.datasync.com/~mbowie/archive29.html > > > > -- read a bit of that... seems the NZNOG archives are the least of Mr > > Angelo's worries. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Julian Angelo
by Greg Clare 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

Just an observation... In requesting the archive purge, a whole new thread of discussion relating to this topic is currently being created... Therefore, the next request will be for the current discussion to be purged... ad infinitum! This leads to the obvious paradox that the only way to undo history is to travel back in time and not do what should not have been did in the first place! ;) Another observation... An apology post would also be recorded in the archives. Greg > -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2001 12:04 pm > To: 'Michael Newbery'; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: RE: Julian Angelo > > > :: An interesting point. The image of 'Memory Holes' sprang > :: instantly to mind. > :: > :: While the article below is rather extreme > :: (http://www.thefire.org/offsite/data/mcelroy042000.html) it > :: does make > :: the point that an archive is supposed to be, well, an archive. > > Good point. I think that "sanitising" archives might set an > unfortunate > precedent, but ultimately, it's up to the listadmin to decide. > > However, even if the messages referring to Mr Angelo were > expunged from > the archives, haven't they been stored elsewhere? I seem to remember > that Google spiders NZNOG... hang on... yep, so it does. > > In fact, a Google search on "Julian Angelo" reveals plenty more than > just NZNOG... see for yourself. I think he's just going to > have to live > with his fifteen seconds of Internet infamy. > > > -- > Juha > > --------- > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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re: Julian Angelo
by Matthew G Brown 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

I have also read about this person . If he could come up with a good reason and apology he could have his sentence shortened by the ISP Justice system. Spam is Spam and from what I know he did quite the nice job of it all . Sincere apologies time. Matthew G Brown Wireless Network Specialist Tasman Solutions LTD Http://www.ts.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Who are these at APE?
by Craig Whitmore 16 Jul '01

16 Jul '01

Anyone be able to tell me who these are at ape?? ????.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.7) dts1.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.68) dts2.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.69) ssc.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.76) They are not on the www.ape.net.nz website for contact to peer with? (if they want to is a different question) Thanks Craig Whitmore Orcon Internet http://www.orcon.net.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: IP express
by David Anso 15 Jul '01

15 Jul '01

I take the last bit back. International access seems quite good again. Regards David Anso Systems Administrator - ZIP Internet Email: sysadmin(a)zip.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Anso" <sysadmin(a)zip.co.nz> To: "Chris Wedgwood" <cw(a)f00f.org> Cc: "NZNOG Mailing List" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 3:22 PM Subject: Re: IP express > Clint said that there was a fibre cut between Auckland and Hamilton. > Apparently it's Telecom fibre, not Clear fibre. > > It's seems CLIX and Netgate peer at Waikato, so now I'm getting 600ms ping > times to Netgate connections from CLIX :-( > > That on top of total loss of bandwidth at 13:00, which has now improved to > dog slow international access. :-( > > > Regards > > David Anso > Systems Administrator - ZIP Internet > > Email: sysadmin(a)zip.co.nz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Wedgwood" <cw(a)f00f.org> > To: "J S Russell" <jsr(a)jsr.com> > Cc: "David Robb" <david.robb(a)staff.ihug.co.nz>; "NZNOG Mailing List" > <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: IP express > > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 01:39:56PM +1200, J S Russell wrote: > > > > The Clear Communications operations dude just told us that "some > fibres > > have been cut, somewhere." and that "he didn't have much info at this > > time." > > > > *who* said that? > > > > > > > > --cw > > --------- > > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > where the body of your message reads: > > unsubscribe nznog > > > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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I'm off!
by Phill Groom 11 Jul '01

11 Jul '01

Lunch seems to have gone on a bit longer than normal today and since I am now at home and not at my desk I don't have access to all of the email addresses of the people I would like to personally say goodbye to. A general broadcast to nznog seems like the best way out of this predicament. Apologies to those that don't know me or do know me but don't care! I have left TelstraSaturn and will be returning to Telstra Corp. in Hobart next week. To all of the customers, potential customers, peers and competitors (not necessarily in that order) that I have had the pleasure of working with over the last two years I say thank you. I have learnt truck loads of stuff from all of you and will treasure the friendships I have made. This industry in New Zealand is unique. There are so many cluefull people who are prepared to put competition aside for the good of the general Internet community. I could make lots of Kiwi jokes, but I won't because I may want a job back here one day. Goodbye and good luck. Regards, Phill. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: IP express
by Seeby - Orcon Internet 10 Jul '01

10 Jul '01

Yes we are having problems with our IPExpress cct. we thought that it was just us. we have lodged a fault with Clear they haven't given us an ETA Cheers Seeby Orcon Internet - www.orcon.net.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Lyall" <simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz> To: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:51 AM Subject: ip express? > Looks like it's down going off who has died on APE. Can anyone confirm? > > -- > Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz > Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz > ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz > > --------- > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > where the body of your message reads: > unsubscribe nznog > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Australian Bill - "10 years for hacker toolkits, scanners and virus code."
by Hamish MacEwan 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

I've read some of the discussion at, http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/07/07/0132226 and wonder if anyone has any reassurance to offer about the NZ bill? I'm presuming the practitioners on this list will be in some kind of grey area in this legislation, unless the State wishes to introduce a form of licensing, a la Car Salesmen, Security Guards, Doctor, and Network Operator who is granted specific exemptions regarding the general provisions of the law. The other, supra-legislative, issue that might have an operational impact on the operation of the Internet in NZ is this Hague Treaty expansion, at the behest of the usual beneficiaries, to encompass content law. Is there any concern that NZ ISPs will become liable, if the law is so elsewhere in the world? Hamish. -- The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -- Marcel Proust --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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