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[off-topic] OpenBSD 2.7
by Joe Abley 06 May '00

06 May '00

Hey, OpenBSD 2.7 will be released on CD some time in the next few weeks. OpenBSD is a free unix-like operating system derived from NetBSD, and actively developed with a focus on security, stability and anal- retentive correctness-of-approach. For details see http://www.openbsd.org/ Since there's no local distributor (and, last time I checked, the Australian distributors wouldn't ship to NZ since the CDs contain strong crypto) the recommended method of obtaining CDs is to order them direct from the Computer Store of Calgary at US$30 + postage each. However, there is a 40% discount available for orders of more than 20 CDs. If anybody is interested in getting hold of a discounted copy, please drop me a line privately -- if there is enough interest, I'll do a bulk order and redistribute at cost. [there are bulk discounts on T-shirts too, so be sure to mention if you want some of those] Details at http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html -- the mid-year release is usually frozen on May 19, which is Theo's birthday. 2.7 beta releases suitable for a network install are available for download from the following local mirror: ftp://ftp.nz.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/ Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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APOLOGIES was Re: Spammers in our midst.
by PhoneNet 06 May '00

06 May '00

My apologies to all concerned... I am the owner of 203.97.144.41 - our consultants assured me this site had been secured when it was originally set up and they have again told me it is secure following the spamming attack of the third and fourth of May. I will be contacting them again today to get it remedied URGENTLY. At 21:13 6/05/00 +1200, you wrote: > >Hey Phil, > >Why is it that ORBS can't verify this host when every other site in the >world can? > >Nice bit of RBL fodder, really.... > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 18:58:04 +1000 >From: tom minchin <tom(a)interact.net.au> >To: blocked-tests(a)orbs.org >Subject: SMTP relaying, previously not >Resent-Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:09:05 +1200 (NZST) >Resent-From: ORBS blocked relay catcher <obs-blok(a)manawatu.co.nz> >Resent-To: alan(a)manawatu.gen.nz >Resent-Subject: SMTP relaying, previously not > >Hi, > 203.97.144.41 is vulnerable to the rcpt to: <"blah"> trick. Sample >spam below. > >tom(a)asiaonline.net > >Return-Path: <stupidgrl(a)loveable.com> >Received: from C12.local.domain (cousins-cl41.netlink.net.nz [203.97.144.41]) > by orange.interact.net.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e468hjG08743 > for <puckdefender(a)interact.net.au>; Sat, 6 May 2000 18:43:46 +1000 (EST) >Message-Id: <200005060843.e468hjG08743(a)orange.interact.net.au> >From: <stupidgrl(a)lovable.com> >To: <puckdefender(a)interact.net.au> >Subject: Mark, Heres the software site you need!! >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 20:38:26 > >Hi Mark > >This site has over 1200 programs with all major titles and the latest versions. >Prices are, in most cases, over 90% off 'normal' retail prices. >There is NO other site like this on the net!! > >http://www.liftware.am > >If you have any queries, feel free to email me > >enjoy >Susie >stupidgrl(a)lovable.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >. > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >This message was sent by an individual using an unregistered >copy of a shareware mailer. >Registering will remove this message and entitle the user to >a fully functional program with Stealth Capabilities, and a >FREE Resellers Web Site! > >--e468hmG08747.957602628/orange.interact.net.au-- > > >--e468hmH08747.957602635/orange.interact.net.au-- > >----- End forwarded message ----- > >--------- >To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >where the body of your message reads: >unsubscribe nznog > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Spammers in our midst.
by Alan Brown 06 May '00

06 May '00

Hey Phil, Why is it that ORBS can't verify this host when every other site in the world can? Nice bit of RBL fodder, really.... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 18:58:04 +1000 From: tom minchin <tom(a)interact.net.au> To: blocked-tests(a)orbs.org Subject: SMTP relaying, previously not Resent-Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:09:05 +1200 (NZST) Resent-From: ORBS blocked relay catcher <obs-blok(a)manawatu.co.nz> Resent-To: alan(a)manawatu.gen.nz Resent-Subject: SMTP relaying, previously not Hi, 203.97.144.41 is vulnerable to the rcpt to: <"blah"> trick. Sample spam below. tom(a)asiaonline.net Return-Path: <stupidgrl(a)loveable.com> Received: from C12.local.domain (cousins-cl41.netlink.net.nz [203.97.144.41]) by orange.interact.net.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e468hjG08743 for <puckdefender(a)interact.net.au>; Sat, 6 May 2000 18:43:46 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200005060843.e468hjG08743(a)orange.interact.net.au> From: <stupidgrl(a)lovable.com> To: <puckdefender(a)interact.net.au> Subject: Mark, Heres the software site you need!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 20:38:26 Hi Mark This site has over 1200 programs with all major titles and the latest versions. Prices are, in most cases, over 90% off 'normal' retail prices. There is NO other site like this on the net!! http://www.liftware.am If you have any queries, feel free to email me enjoy Susie stupidgrl(a)lovable.com . -------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by an individual using an unregistered copy of a shareware mailer. Registering will remove this message and entitle the user to a fully functional program with Stealth Capabilities, and a FREE Resellers Web Site! --e468hmG08747.957602628/orange.interact.net.au-- --e468hmH08747.957602635/orange.interact.net.au-- ----- End forwarded message ----- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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None
by None 05 May '00

05 May '00

by kithrup.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19931 for <user(a)kithrup.com>; Sat, 6 May 2000 02:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spamtest(a)cousins.in-newzealand.com) Received: from dante.mail-abuse.org (dante.mail-abuse.org [204.152.184.35]) by cousins.in-newzealand.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA06164 for <"user(a)kithrup.com">; Sat, 6 May 2000 22:36:03 +1200 Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 22:36:03 +1200 To: user(a)kithrup.com From: nobody(a)cousins.in-newzealand.com Subject: test for susceptibility to third-party mail relay Message-Id: <rlytest-957605401-16129(a)dante.mail-abuse.org> Sender: iverson(a)dante.mail-abuse.org X-Envelope: <spamtest(a)[203.97.144.41]> -> <"user(a)kithrup.com"> This is a test of third-party mail relay, generated by the MAPS LLC RSS relay protection system. Target host = 203.97.144.41 Test performed by <iverson(a)dante.mail-abuse.org> ==== That's the MAPS RSS tester, less than an hour ago. And the host _is_ reachable from hosts other than the ORBS testers. The manual ORBS netblock entries kick in around midnight. I suggest you run host -t ns(and soa) relays.orbs.org to see where the zone SOA is and who secondary it. AB --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Telstra heading for MAPS RBL
by Alan Brown 04 May '00

04 May '00

http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ev/203.44.57-24.txt for details of one /24 already there. It's likely that Telstra will end up fully RBLed before much longer due to their spam-tolerant policy statements. AB --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Another networking position....
by Steve Lang 04 May '00

04 May '00

Yes, we too are looking for an networking guru/internet god(ess). Senior Network Engineer/Manager An enthusiastic and self-motivated Senior Network Engineer/Manager required to work in a very busy, friendly and focused telecommunications environment from our central Auckland headoffice. Responsibilities; - overall management of internel Cisco systems - ensure excellent levels of client support - good interpersonal and communication skills - commitment to effective project management - contractual reporting ability - highly organised with sound judgement Qualifications; - Need to be an expert with Cisco router management, maintenance and configuration; Cisco soho router configuration; Cisco PIX Firewall configuration; Cisco AS5300; BGP4, OSPF; LAN (Ethernet, FastEthernet, Switches); WAN (G.703, X.21, V.35, DDS, MDDS, DEDW, Stacked E1) and Linux - Need to have experience with Newbridge 46020 Network management station, and 3600 TDM's. - Preferable knowledge of DNS, Sendmail/SMTP, FTP, Apache, Radius, Perl, Shell, Pop3 - tertiary qualifications well acknowledged - An acknowledged expert in their field If there's any interest out there, drop me a line. Cheers - --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[apops] Filtering: APNIC Policy changes (fwd)
by Joe Abley 03 May '00

03 May '00

For those who prefer to protect their networks against remote outages by route filtering, this may be of interest. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 11:14:28 +1000 (EST) From: APNIC Secretariat <secretariat(a)apnic.net> To: apnic-announce(a)lists.apnic.net, nanog(a)merit.edu, ripe-list(a)ripe.net, eof-list(a)ripe.net, apops(a)lists.apnic.net Subject: [apops] Filtering: APNIC Policy changes ** Apologies for duplicate messages ** Important Public Announcement CHANGES IN APNIC ADDRESS POLICY If you ingress filter on any of the following APNIC address ranges - 61/8, 202/7, or 210/7 - then please note the following important changes to APNIC address policy which were approved at the recent APNIC Member Meeting in March, in Seoul, Korea. * APNIC will lower its initial minimum allocation from a /19 to a /20 (this will apply across all address ranges held by APNIC). * APNIC will begin making allocations from network 61/8 as routine allocations from its total address pool. These policy changes will take effect three months from this announcement, on 4 August 2000. This email is intended to allow the ISP community sufficient advance notice to make any necessary filtering changes. For more detailed information on these proposals and decisions, or other discussion items, copies of presentations and discussion papers are available on the APNIC web site at http://www.apnic.net/amm2000/ . With best wishes, Anne Lord Manager Member Services -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + APNIC Secretariat <secretariat(a)apnic.net> Tel: +61-7-3367-0490 Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Ltd Fax: +61-7-3367-0482 Level 1, 33 Park Road, PO Box 2131, Milton, QLD 4064, Australia + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + * APOPS: Asia Pacific Operations Forum * * To unsubscribe: send "unsubscribe" to apops-request(a)apnic.net * --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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cisco AS5200 with V.90 modems...
by Russell Street 03 May '00

03 May '00

We are considering upgrading the modem firmware in our cisco AS5200 to support V.90 connections. Anyone had any bad experiences with the combination? Russell --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Major router outages
by James Bell 02 May '00

02 May '00

I understand that just before 12 oclock, various ISPs and network providers suffered problems with core routers - specifically, huge memory ulitisation. Is anyone able to confirm/deny if this happened to their network, and provide any further information as to a suspected cause? --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Consultation on International Charging for Internet Connectivity (Long)
by Frank March 02 May '00

02 May '00

Folks: Once again, I ask for your indulgence. As a result of excellent feedback from my previous posting to these two groups, we have developed the following consultation document which is intended for a non-technical (managerial) audience. Some of the wording may apprear hauntingly familar to some of you. It has been sent by snail mail to Vodafone, Telecom, Clear, Telstra-Saturn and Clear already. We are keen to canvass other feedback, espacially from the ISPs. Please refer to senior management, or alternatively, I will snail mail or fax a formatted copy on letterhead etc in response to email suggestions. I have attached an rtf format document which can just be printed out and passed on if necessary (apologies to those objecting to the MS pseudo standard). I have asked for feedback by 15 May (contact details at the end). <<Internet charging.rtf>> Frank March Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658 Consultation on International Charging for Internet Connectivity Purpose of this Document In preparation for a meeting of APEC Telecommunications/IT Ministers to be held 22-26 May, the Ministry of Economic Development wishes to consult with interested parties in order to help establish a New Zealand Government position on charging for Internet connectivity across the Pacific. This question has arisen because the way that Internet charges are settled between service providers internationally is quite different from the settlement regime used traditionally for international telephony. The topic has been under study within the APEC Telecommunications Working Group since late 1998, with a number of APEC member economies taking the view that the present charging arrangements are unfair. New Zealand has not yet taken a formal position on the topic. We have twice circulated information on the study to the New Zealand Network Operators group. The Issue International telephone traffic charges are settled between national telecommunications providers on the basis of interconnection agreements where the carrier terminating a call within its network charges the other. The costs are met by the subscriber originating the call. This is readily achieved because the telephone system uses circuit switching where the originator of the call and its duration are readily determined. Since the subscriber placing the call chooses to do so, it is assumed that the value of the transaction is captured by that person. Internet traffic is quite different in nature. Because it uses packet switching, neither the source and destination (the end users) of the traffic flow, nor the duration (or quantity) of traffic within the 'transaction', can be measured readily. It is also much more difficult to make assumptions about who obtains the value from the traffic flow. Charging for Internet traffic is conducted quite differently from traditional telephone calls. New Zealand ISPs typically rent bandwidth capacity (a 'pipe') from an international carrier so that a New Zealand client ends up paying indirectly for the full costs of the international traffic in both directions. This can be perceived as being a net subsidy by the New Zealand client to a peer in North America as any benefit to either party is paid for only by the New Zealand user. It has been inferred as a result that Internet development is being held back unfairly in New Zealand (and other non-North American countries) because users subsidise the US and Canadian costs of connectivity. (Note, however, that there is no evidence of slow take up of the Internet in New Zealand which, along with Australia and similarly 'disadvantaged' nations such as Finland and Sweden, is in the top 10 countries in terms of Internet use. Most of the other OECD countries are well behind in terms of Internet take up but, of course, these are well ahead of the 2nd and 3rd world. Slow take up in these countries may be attributed to other factors, especially local connection costs and heavily regulated markets, as well as the availability of content in non-English languages.) The Question Does the New Zealand Internet industry perceive there to be a problem over the present international Internet charging regime, in terms of the current and future impact on ISPs or their end users? The arguments outlined below and the tentative conclusions drawn have been consolidated from feedback received from members of the New Zealand Network Operators Group and members of the Internet Society of New Zealand. These groups are taken to include many, if not most, of the technically aware people in New Zealand who are concerned with Internet issues. This paper is intended to test the opinions of a wider group in order to better inform New Zealand Government policy on the matter. The Arguments A number of APEC member economies favour a requirement for international Internet traffic costs to be shared on a negotiated or mandated basis, on the grounds of 'fairness'. The arguments against and in favour of this could be summarised as follows. Against: Government mandated allocation of costs based on traffic flows would be potentially detrimental to the growth and functioning of the Internet. There is no basis for government intervention at this time because: * International charging arrangements are only one element in the total costs and value exchange of international Internet interconnection. A recent APEC study has shown that for the APEC economies costs to Internet end users are attributed roughly as 90% to the local loop, 7% to national trunk and only 3% to international trunks. The international trunk costs for New Zealand end users are not known but are expected to be a much higher percentage than this because the relative cost of the local loop is less in New Zealand than in many other APEC economies. The costs to a New Zealand ISP may be in the region of 30% and those to an end user some fraction of this. * There are many factors which impact on growth and take-up of Internet services, other than the costs of the international element of carriage. Important among these are: the level of the economy's domestic telecommunications market liberalisation and competition, foreign investment restrictions, the effect of local as well as international cost/price structures on the actual cost to end users, the impact of compliance/regulatory requirements on the development and availability of the Internet, roll-out of domestic infrastructures and the availability of bandwidth, the amount of local Internet content, consumer confidence in the case of e-commerce, and open market access for ISPs * The Internet is a new, dynamic industry where business models are developing rapidly in response to market conditions. Present charging arrangements have resulted in rapidly falling prices for international bandwidth. * The Internet is fundamentally different from traditional telephony networks. Although gross measurement of Internet traffic is possible, in general it is much more difficult to attribute use of capacity (and the value arising from it) to individual users than is the case with voice telephony. The Internet allows much more varied styles of remote interaction, which greatly enhances the ability for groups of people to work together despite being located in different economies. * Much traffic between non-US countries crosses the US networks. In the case of Pacific rim countries, this averages 71% of non-US traffic. It could be argued therefore that non-US countries are benefiting from this traffic for which the US carriers are not recovering costs. * There is a high level of competition in the provision of trans-Pacific telecommunications regardless of present interconnection arrangements as exemplified by the current Southern Cross project. The current international Internet market is highly competitive. In nations where there are high prices for Internet consumers, these appear to be associated with the comparative lack of competition and the level of pricing for connection in domestic markets. * Any intervention by governments to regulate or impose an international settlements regime will be costly and will introduce rigidities and restrict service development. The outcome, far from benefiting the economies affected by the present imbalance of costs, is likely to increase the costs of Internet access and limit innovation and opportunities for exploitation of the benefits of electronic commerce. In Favour: There is concern that, although the costs to Internet end users may be relatively small, and the present regime is competitively neutral as far as ISPs are concerned, overall effects on the economy may be very significant, especially in the long term. * The impact of voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) needs to be taken into account. Within five years it is expected that international trunks will be carrying most voice traffic over IP networks. This development will lead to a much closer balance in net traffic flows than is the case at present. * Some Web hosting business is already lost to overseas hosting companies because of the international traffic costs and some New Zealand-based ISPs are reluctant to host internationally popular websites for the same reason. * The overall concern, from a national perspective, is that we are subsidising consumers and businesses in North America, not just service providers and telecommunications carriers, but across the entire economy. Our Conclusions * Although we do not know what the optimum growth of the Internet might be, there seems little if any evidence of market failure to date. * Even if that were the case, there are many factors which impact on growth and take-up of Internet services, other than the costs of the international element of carriage. * Nevertheless, as international Internet use grows and new services such as voice over IP become important, we would want to ensure that the New Zealand economy was not placed at a disadvantage relative to those in North America because of historical developments in Internet services producing long term market distortions. * At the same time, we would not want to see any arrangements that imposed unjustified compliance costs or that endeavoured to mandate negotiations that would subject Internet traffic to similar costing regimes as traditional voice telephony. In particular we would want to avoid outcomes where the cost of measurement or monitoring exceeds the cost/value involved. APEC Recommendations The present text of the recommendations to be submitted to APEC Ministers is: Recommended International Charging Arrangements for Internet Services 1. Where measurement tools are available and acceptable, charging arrangements should be based on traffic flow patterns for each type of service, taking into account which side has generated the traffic. 2. In the absence of efficient measurement tools, charging arrangements for international links should be based on the ratio of inbound to outbound traffic flow. 3. Where agreeable to both parties, the cost of international transport link capacity should be shared on a 50/50 basis. APEC Principles on Internet Interconnection 1. Internet connectivity is an integrated element of the public telecommunications infrastructure, including private sector initiatives that should be encouraged to strengthen the Asia-Pacific Information Infrastructure. 2. Governments need not intervene in private business agreements achieved in a competitive environment, but where there are dominant players or de facto monopolies governments have a role in promoting the principle of fairness until effective competition can be demonstrated. 3. Internet charging arrangements between providers of network services should reflect: a) The contribution of each network to the communication; and b) The use by each party of the interconnected network resources. 4. Sustainable and equitable financing arrangements for the development of high-bandwidth connectivity will be supported by: a) Internet charging arrangements that distribute returns on investment according to fair market principles; and b) Application of the APEC Principles on Interconnection to packet-switched data services. Comment Sought Your comments on this issue would be welcomed as a contribution towards establishing a New Zealand position, not only for the APEC Telecommunications Ministerial meeting, but also for the International Telecommunications Union's study group which is proposing similarly prescriptive recommendations on international traffic costs. Please send your comments to Frank March, Specialist Advisor, IT Policy, by Monday, 15 May 2000. Contact details as follows: telephone (04) 474 2908; fax (04) 473 8949 or (preferred) email: frank.march(a)med.govt.nz. Mike Lear Deputy Secretary, Resources and Networks

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Places to buy routers
by Rob Isaac 02 May '00

02 May '00

Hi folks. Might seem like a silly question (they usually are), but does anyone have some positive (or negative) experiences to share on the subject of purchasing cisco boxes and support contracts for the same? I'm doing some work for a company that has an over-abundance of routers, but an under-abundance of clue. What I'm looking for is an organisation either with national service or based in Auckland who can do 'full service', almost retail router sales and support, and who offer service contracts, hot swap spares, and stuff like that. I have this vague mental picture that Anite in Auckland used to offer this sort of service, but I'm open to any other suggestions. The objective, in case it isn't obvious, is to connect my current employer to someone who can compensate for their lack of clue in exchange for large bundles of cash. Any thoughts on who to talk to (and perhaps who to avoid) would be welcome. If there's sufficient interest, I'm happy to post the consensus back to the list, in case any of you find yourselves in a similar situation. Regards, Rob. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Notorious hacker "Venomous" now working at a NZ ISP.
by Alan Brown 01 May '00

01 May '00

This is a heads-up for those who care about such things. "Venomous" - real name Jodi Jones - is now working at Netbyte in Auckland. People tracking him will recall that the last ISP he worked for (Dayrom in Australia) was used as a base for hacking and DoS attacks. You may wish to firewall accordingly. Yes Netbyte are aware of his history - they claim they believe in giving second chances. Funnily enough that's the exact same claim Dayrom made... AB --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 01 May '00

01 May '00

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has neither a king, a president nor a formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. At last count the list had around 140 subscribers, with the count growing slightly each month. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Telecom NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations (nor the administrator) is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ To search the archive, see http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/search.html (and remember to select nznog). Subscribing to the List To subscribe to the NZNOG list, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, where the body of the message reads subscribe nznog There are at present no restrictions on who may subscribe to the list, or even on who may post to the list. Digest Mailing List If you don't wish to receive postings as they are sent, you can instead subscribe to the nznog-digest mailiing list, on which all postings are sent out in a single "digest" every couple of days. Other Activities NZNOG does not at present have other regular activities than this mailing list, though some Auckland subscribers have been known to meet over beer. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: NZ MBONE Nominations
by Richard Naylor 30 Apr '00

30 Apr '00

At 03:29 PM 4/24/00 -0700, Josh Bailey wrote: >On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Josh Bailey wrote: > >> I thank James Tyson, Roger de Salis, Rich Taylor, Andy Linton, > >Of course, I meant to type, Naylor. My apologies, Rich, especially in >light of your assistance. > no probs. I;ve been meaning to follow the MBONE up. Our offer is for rack space in BOTH APE and WIX. We will also provide tech support and are looking at bandwidth (with a probable yes). We plan on Roger's router at one point and a Linux box at the other. Zebra suports DVMRP and I'm looking for something for PIM on Linux boxes. rich richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz This mail message contains information that is confidential and which may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, distribute or copy this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and erase this mail. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Cisco router value
by David Zanetti 30 Apr '00

30 Apr '00

I have someone who's looking to sell their now-surplus Cisco 1603, but has no idea what it's worth. (And neither do I..) So what's one worth these days 2nd hand? -- David Zanetti <dave2(a)earthling.net> | "It doesn't matter a damn what the Moderator, nz.politics.announce | [ISOCNZ] members think or say" #include <geek/unix.h> | Jim Higgins, (then) ISOCNZ chairman --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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MX for domainz.net.nz points to a CNAME (illegal)
by Joe Abley 29 Apr '00

29 Apr '00

Hello, Just out of interest -- has anybody noticed any problems sending mail to Domainz, due to the fact that the MX for domainz.net.nz points to mail2.actrix.gen.nz, which is itself a CNAME for mercury.actrix.gen.nz? It's not the best MX for the zone, and hence might never get used anyway. [MX to a CNAME is illegal, in case I'm not making myself obvious] Just interested in whether this has had any operational impact. Whilst simultaneously poking fun at Domainz and Actrix for their trivial DNS misconfiguration, obviously :) jabley(a)tardis[129]$ dig mx domainz.net.nz ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> mx domainz.net.nz ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 56161 ;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 2, Auth: 3, Addit: 3 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; domainz.net.nz, type = MX, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: domainz.net.nz. 4835 MX 20 mail2.actrix.gen.nz. domainz.net.nz. 4835 MX 10 mail.actrix.gen.nz. ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: domainz.net.nz. 86400 NS ns1.actrix.gen.nz. domainz.net.nz. 86400 NS ns2.actrix.gen.nz. domainz.net.nz. 86400 NS ns1.waikato.ac.nz. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ns1.actrix.gen.nz. 86400 A 203.96.16.35 ns2.actrix.gen.nz. 86400 A 203.96.16.36 ns1.waikato.ac.nz. 86400 A 140.200.128.13 ;; Total query time: 47 msec ;; FROM: tardis to SERVER: default -- 203.97.2.226 ;; WHEN: Sun Apr 30 15:55:37 2000 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 32 rcvd: 201 jabley(a)tardis[130]$ dig a mail.actrix.gen.nz ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> a mail.actrix.gen.nz ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 58816 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 2, Auth: 2, Addit: 2 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; mail.actrix.gen.nz, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: mail.actrix.gen.nz. 60 A 203.96.16.107 mail.actrix.gen.nz. 60 A 203.96.16.108 ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: actrix.gen.nz. 43200 NS ns1.actrix.gen.nz. actrix.gen.nz. 43200 NS ns2.actrix.gen.nz. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ns1.actrix.gen.nz. 43200 A 203.96.16.35 ns2.actrix.gen.nz. 43200 A 203.96.16.36 ;; Total query time: 77 msec ;; FROM: tardis to SERVER: default -- 203.97.2.226 ;; WHEN: Sun Apr 30 15:55:57 2000 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 36 rcvd: 149 jabley(a)tardis[131]$ dig a mail2.actrix.gen.nz ; <<>> DiG 2.2 <<>> a mail2.actrix.gen.nz ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62610 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 2, Auth: 2, Addit: 2 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; mail2.actrix.gen.nz, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: mail2.actrix.gen.nz. 43200 CNAME mercury.actrix.gen.nz. mercury.actrix.gen.nz. 43200 A 203.96.16.37 ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: actrix.gen.nz. 43200 NS ns1.actrix.gen.nz. actrix.gen.nz. 43200 NS ns2.actrix.gen.nz. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ns1.actrix.gen.nz. 43200 A 203.96.16.35 ns2.actrix.gen.nz. 43200 A 203.96.16.36 ;; Total query time: 51 msec ;; FROM: tardis to SERVER: default -- 203.97.2.226 ;; WHEN: Sun Apr 30 15:56:09 2000 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 37 rcvd: 156 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: More on DDOS Attacks
by Donald Neal 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:47:46 +1300 From: Chris Wedgwood <cw(a)f00f.org> In-Reply-To: <s8b3a585.032(a)groupwise.telecom.co.nz>; from Donald.Neal(a)telecom.co.nz on Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 09:16:40AM +1300 X-No-Archive: Yes > Speaking of the stablity of different IOS versions, we have a 3640 > with 12.0(4)T on it that needs rebooting after about 7 weeks of > uptime. Starts spamming the console port with memory allocation > failures, although still manages to route stuff. > > It's not a particullarly odd setup, just routing between a couple > of FE ports, but we are using dynamic packet filtering on it, ala > "permit ... reflect outbound". > > Ring any bells for anyone? Couldn't see anything that jumped out at > me in the later release notes, and wasn't keen on an upgrade just > to "try it out".. Sure, 12.0x is really immature right now and full of bugs. Try the most recent 12.0x release and see if that makes your problems go away. Experience says release start to get usable around about '10 and stable about '16 or so -- so you still have a while to wait. -cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Domainz system change
by Peter Mott 26 Apr '00

26 Apr '00

Does anybody here know an exact date and time for when domainz will switch off the UoW registration system (comprising domainz.waikato.ac.nz and whois server)? I dont recall it being published anywhere as yet. Regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: Wireless Internet Training Program Development
by Frank March 25 Apr '00

25 Apr '00

Please forward within your own networks as seems appropriate. Frank March Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658 > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce W. McConnell [SMTP:mcconnell(a)mcconnellinternational.com] > Sent: Friday, 21 April 2000 07:40 > To: itcoord(a)undp.org > Subject: Wireless Internet Training Program Development > > Dear National IT Focal Points, > > Below I am sending you an announcement from the World Bank announcing > three > paid fellowships to enhance developing country training programs in > wireless > internet technology at the university level. The program is being > supported > by Motorola to help address the worldwide shortage of knowledgable > experts. > The selected applicants would spend four to six months in the United > States > developing a training curriculum and materials to be used in their home > countries. > > The deadline for applications is May 31, 2000. Please send the > announcement > of this opportunity to those who might be interested in participating. > > Regards, > > Bruce W. McConnell > Facilitator, Information Technology Coordination List > for the United Nations Working Group on Informatics > > 1341 G Street, NW - Suite 1100 > Washington, DC 20005 > +1.202.347.7445 > fax +1.202.347.7446 > mcconnell(a)mcconnellinternational.com > > +++++++++++ > > REQUEST FOR APPLICATION > > THE VISITING SCHOLARS FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM > FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT > > infoDev and Motorola University (MU) are pleased to announce that they are > accepting applications for the Visiting Scholars Fellowship Program. > > This Fellowship program seeks to address the shortage of communication > professionals in emerging economies. The program is divided into two > phases: > Phase I - Design and Development will have a university curriculum manager > from an emerging economy work with MU to develop a generic > university-level > educational curriculum focused on communications and IP-based networks > technologies. During the four-month visit, the Scholar will also update > and > improve his/her existing home university curriculum and core materials to > achieve state-of-the-art technology training. > Phase II - Dissemination and Awareness will provide shorter-term > fellowships > to two selected developing country university curricula managers to also > work with MU to adapt and customize the generic curriculum and test the > material and curriculum in the classroom. > > GOALS AND OBJECTIVES > > The objectives of the Visiting Scholars Fellowship Program are to: > · establish new and strengthen existing university-level educational > curricula focused on communications technologies and Internet > Protocol-based > (IP-based) networks; and > · create a "Virtual Curriculum Managers Network" (explained below). > > The ultimate intent is to bridge the gap between existing technologies in > the Scholars' countries and state-of-the-art technologies in > communications > and IP-based, networks curriculum. The Visiting Scholar will be provided > with state-of-the-art training and knowledge, and in turn will be expected > to provide better education to engineering students in their universities. > > PROGRAM STRUCTURE > > To meet these goals, MU will host Visiting Scholars from emerging > economies > at the Motorola corporate headquarters in Schaumburg, Illinois, located > outside of Chicago. The Program will be structured in two phases, with > one > Phase I Scholar visiting for a period of four months, starting after July > 1, > 2000, and two Phase II Scholars visiting later for approximately two > months > each. > Phase I: Design and Development - During this phase, one Visiting Scholar > will structure and develop a generic curriculum, and then a customized one > for their university. First, the Scholar will work with technical > education > and training professionals and Motorola staff to develop a generic > university-level educational curriculum focused on wireless communications > and IP network technologies. The Scholar's efforts will be coordinated > with > ongoing MU efforts in curriculum development. Working under the > supervision > of education and training specialists provided through MU's College of > Technology, the Scholar will design a high-level curriculum, develop > individual course modules, and update existing materials. When necessary, > the Scholar will create new educational materials where none exist to > round > out the generic curriculum. > > The Scholar should plan, if possible, to initiate the effort by utilizing > ex > isting materials brought from their university. Materials and resources, > both knowledge and human, will also be made available through MU and > Motorola. In addition, material from the World Bank will be made > available > to be incorporated into the Program design as appropriate, including the > "infoDev Regulatory Handbook" which is under development. > > The generic curriculum will then be customized to create a new curriculum > for their technical training program in the home country university. This > will involve preparing a customized curriculum and course materials that > fill the gap between existing technologies in the Scholar's country and > cutting edge technologies in communications and IP-based networks > curriculum. > > The Scholar, working together with the infoDev webmaster, will also work > to > establish a Virtual Curriculum Managers Network, to link together > curriculum > managers (involved in wireless communications and IP network technologies) > into an electronic virtual network to share knowledge and best practice in > the development and deployment of such curricula. > > Output from this Phase I will consist of: > (i) both a generic and a customized curriculum focused on communications > and > IP-based networks technologies, > (ii) both generic and customized specific course content, including > materials, lecture notes, texts, reading lists, syllabi, etc., and > (iii) the initial activities related to the Virtual Curriculum Managers > Network, to include selecting the material for the webpage, developing a > listserve of curriculum manager, etc. > > Phase II: Dissemination and Awareness - Building on the work of Phase I, > two > shorter-term Fellowships (approximately two months in residence) will be > made available to selected university curricula managers from emerging > economies. Similar to Phase I, the Phase II Visiting Scholars will work > with MU to adapt and customize the generic curriculum from Phase I. When > they return to their country, they will test the customized material and > curriculum in the classroom. > > infoDev and MU will make the newly developed generic curriculum from Phase > I > widely available through the Internet. The Visiting Scholars website, to > be > created and maintained by the Visiting Scholar and infoDev, will reside on > the infoDev website. The infoDev Webmasters will provide assistance in > making the content available widely on the Internet. Curriculum and > course > materials also will be distributed by infoDev through the infoDev > Symposium, > annual meetings, conferences, etc. The Phase II Scholars will also be > responsible for advancing the Virtual Curriculum Managers Network. > > Phase II should produce: > (i) customized curricula focused on communications and IP-based networks > technologies for the Phase II Visiting Scholars' home country > universities, > (ii) customized course content including materials, lecture notes, texts, > reading lists, syllabi, etc., and > (iii) an Internet web presence and updated content to advance the Virtual > Curriculum Managers Network, available to curriculum managers for training > of engineers worldwide. > > STIPENDS > > PHASE I: The monthly stipend will be $5,000, providing a total stipend of > $20,000 for the four months residence of the Visiting Scholar. Economy > roundtrip airfare and insurance for the time of the fellowship will also > be > covered. Modest additional funds will be available for training outside > MU, > and for travel connected with the Visiting Scholarship. Office space, > equipment, etc. will be provided by MU while the Scholar is in residence. > > PHASE II: The monthly stipend for each scholar will be $5,000 providing a > total stipend of $10,000 for the two months per Visiting Scholar. Economy > roundtrip airfare and insurance will be covered. Office space, equipment, > etc. will be provided by MU while the Scholar is in residence. > > SELECTION CRITERIA > > The following criteria will be used to select the scholars from among the > applicants: > · Ability of the candidate to develop a strong, generic curriculum > focused > on communica-tions technologies and Internet Protocolbased (IPbased) > networks, and to modify such a curriculum to meet the needs of their > university and country. Qualifications will in-clude teaching and > curriculum development experience as well as expertise in the technology; > · Commitment of the candidate's home institution to adopt and utilize > an > improved curriculum (demonstrated in letters of support, willingness to > equip facilities for students, etc.); > · Improvement in training of students in the candidate's institution > likely > to result from the improved curriculum (innovation, critique of the > current > curriculum, etc.); > · Need (priority will be given to universities in low-income > countries, or > to universities that face special difficulties funding foreign training > for > staff.) > · Importance of the training to be provided via the new curriculum to > social > and economic development in the candidate's country and region (numbers of > students likely to be trained, rank and importance of the institution in > preparing engineers and technical staff for his/her country, likely career > paths of graduates, rate of introduction of wireless technology, etc.). > > QUALIFICATIONS > > There is only one application process for both Phases of the Program. > > Candidates must have responsibility for development and maintenance of an > education curriculum in a technical or engineering university or other > accredited training and education institute in an emerging-economy > country. > The Candidates also must have authority to modify and put into practice a > new education curriculum. In addition, the Candidate must be available to > manage the Virtual Curriculum Managers Network during the Fellowship. > Candidates must have strong English language skills. Phase I Scholars > must > be available to live in residence in Schaumburg for a period of four > months, > starting after early July 2000. > > Applicants should submit a curriculum vita and a typed Statement of > Purpose, > (500-700 words).The Statement of Purpose will describe the applicants: > (i) aims in creating an communications and IP-network based curriculum > for > their home country's university, > (ii) why they feel that participation in the Visiting Scholars Fellowship > Program will help them achieve these objectives, and > (iii) what the applicant feels they can contribute to the Visiting > Scholars > Fellowship Program. > > The applicant should include letters of support from their home > university, > and web sites or other materials that describe the university and its > curriculum. he applicant should also arrange that three reference letters > be sent to infoDev from individuals who can testify to the applicants > professional qualifications, institutional role in the university, and > likelihood to succeed in the creation/reform of the curriculum. > > Deadline for applications is May 31, 2000. > > Please send the completed application form via email to > infodev(a)worldbank.org > > Alternatively, you mail send it via regular mail on diskette to: > > Information for Development Program (infoDev) > Attn: Visiting Scholars Fellowship > The World Bank > F5P-156 > 1818 H Street NW > Washington, DC 20433 USA > > CANDIDATE SELECTION PROCESS > > The applications will be distributed to a panel of three reviewers: one > representative from infoDev, one representative from Motorola, and one > independent reviewer. The three top-rated candidates for the Visiting > Scholars Fellowship Program will be contacted for phone interviews. Each > candidate will receive votes based the ranking given by the panel member: > the top candidate receives three points, 2nd candidate receives two > points, > and 3rd candidate receives one point. The candidate receiving the most > points will be offered the Phases I Visiting Scholar Fellowship. The 2nd > and 3rd candidates will be offered the two Phase II Visiting Scholar > Fellowships. It is expected that candidates will be notified of > Fellowship > awards by the end of June (see calendar below). > > If, after this process, three suitable candidates have not been > identified, > a new call for applications may be issued. > > > RESOURCES > > Curriculum design and course content will be made available by MU, > including > course materials, lecture notes, texts, reading lists, syllabi, etc. Some > of this material contains intellectual property that is confidential and > will not be available for further distribution; any such limitations on a > specific document will be specified by Motorola to the Scholar. It is > planned that an infoDev representative and a MU staff member will visit > Scholars after the training to review progress in the curriculum > development/reform and to learn ways of continuing and expanding the > Program. > > > GUEST LECTURING > > In cooperation with several local universities in the Chicago area, > Visiting > Scholars may be able to offer guest teaching assignments to enhance the > Scholarship Program. Universities that Motorola has relationships with > include: (i) Roosevelt University, School of Science and Technology, (ii) > Illinois Institute of Technology, Department of Electrical and Computer > Engineering, and (iii) University of Illinois's (Chicago) Department of > Electrical Engineering and Computer Science. > > > > THE VISITING SCHOLARS FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS > CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT -- TENTATIVE TIMETABLE > April 12 infoDev officially announces the Motorola Visiting Scholars > Fellowship Program. Applications to the Program being > accepted by > infoDev. > May 31 Deadline for Applications to the Program (6:00 PM EST). > June 16 Completion of preliminary round of evaluations by the > Selection > Committee. Start of the phone interview stage of evaluation > process. > June 23 Completion of final round of evaluations by the Selection > Committee. > Award letters issued jointly by infoDev and > Motorola. > July 1 Deadline for acceptance for Visiting Scholar Program. > After July 1 Phase I of the Visiting Scholars Fellowship Program will > commence. > Phase II will commence immediately after the close of Phase I. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZ MBONE Nominations
by James Tyson 24 Apr '00

24 Apr '00

There are still no maintainers nominated on mbone.samizdat.co.nz. Remember that geography is irrelevant due to the automagical nature of the internet. If you think that you have even the vague skillset neccessary to maintain this system then please visit the site and nominate yourself. Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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an item of interest?
by Bill Manning 19 Apr '00

19 Apr '00

sorry for the broad cross-posting... While waiting for the 2q2000 inverse tree audit to finish, <http://www.isi.edu/~bmanning/in-addr-audit.html> I crunched some numbers on the previous two quarters data. This is only for servers in the in-addr.arpa tree that responded. Servers w/ modified replies to the version query are not included but they are less than a single percent. <http://www.isi.edu/~bmanning/in-addr-versions.html> (Shouts to you folks w/ back level code... tis better to upgrade than not. And hiding your version is no protection.) Comments appreciated. --bill --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Idle hands in Santa Clara?
by Rob Isaac 18 Apr '00

18 Apr '00

Folks, I'm after someone clueful in the Santa Clara, California area to visit a facility, break down a rack with some equipment in it and arrange shipping of that equipment across state to San Jose. Reasonable demands for quantities of cash, travelling expenses, sponsored clothing or alcoholic beverages of your choice will not be refused. If you're in the area, or you know of someone you'd trust who is, please let me know. The alternative is that I have to fly there and do it myself, and a trans-Pacific flight to spend about fifteen minutes arguing with some PSInet monkeys about where my rack is, followed by a flight back again is a pleasure I think I can live without. Regards, Rob. PS: The catch is -- it's a PSI co-location facility, so anyone you suggest is likely to need saint-like patience and speak fluent Idiot. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Introduction of the new Domainz system
by Andy Linton 18 Apr '00

18 Apr '00

A couple of days ago I got mail from Andrew Mason, a consultant acting for Domainz, who posed a set of questions to me about Netlink's readiness to adopt the new system. I have answered that noting a number of reservations including lack of whois server to enable easy checking of existing records and the apparent lack of consensus among many of the industry players about how things should be done. I'm trying to gauge who is happy with the *technical* interface. (I know that many are unhappy with the politico-commercial position.) If everyone else is ecstatically happy I'll accept the judgement of my peers and get on with things, do without the long promised whois server and check all my domains using the web interface. If however you are unhappy about how things are progressing let's put our heads together and go back to ISOCNZ with an open letter requesting them to ensure that Domainz starts acting as a public service organisation and not as a business solely focussed on making money and using its monopoly postion to dictate to the NZ Internet community. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[Fwd: Whois.patho.gen.nz]
by Andy Linton 18 Apr '00

18 Apr '00

John, I'm writing to you as chair of the ISOCNZ committee reviewing Domainz's activities. Will ISOCNZ now instruct Domainz to implement a whois server with data that they are prepared to stand behind before the new system goes on line next month? andy -- jabley(a)automagic.org wrote: > > I have been running a whois server on whois.patho.gen.nz for some > time; this server was running before the Waikato-supplied > whois.domainz.net.nz was made available, and presents its output in a > ripe-181 compatible format, as per the current ISOCNZ policy on whois > for NZ. [whois.domainz.net.nz uses a private format, presumably > invented by Domainz]. > > whois.patho.gen.nz is a service that I run for free, and which, since > 12 March, has attracted an average of just under 240 queries per day > from all round the world. I hear the Waikato-run whois.domainz.net.nz > receives a similar number of hits. > > It's very small and simple, and essentially retrieves a page of HTML > from a UoW-supplied server using HTTP, and re-formats the data as > ripe-181 to be presented via whois. > > <operational-content> > When the Waikato system is turned down next month, whois.patho.gen.nz > will stop working. The new system does not include provision for a > whois service of any kind -- hence, at this time there will be no > whois service for the NZ ccTLD. Anyone who currently depends on > whois.domainz.net.nz, whois.patho.gen.nz or nz.whois-servers.net > (which is a CNAME for tardis.patho.gen.nz) should investigate other > means of obtaining access to the register. > </operational-content> > > Note that I would be more than happy to modify whois.patho.gen.nz to > provide continued service if someone from Domainz or Glazier could > give me some pointers as to how I can pull the same information > currently available at > http://domainz.waikato.ac.nz/cgi-bin/DNZ-REGISTER?domain_name=foo.co.nz > from the new system. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Whois.patho.gen.nz
by jabley＠automagic.org 18 Apr '00

18 Apr '00

I have been running a whois server on whois.patho.gen.nz for some time; this server was running before the Waikato-supplied whois.domainz.net.nz was made available, and presents its output in a ripe-181 compatible format, as per the current ISOCNZ policy on whois for NZ. [whois.domainz.net.nz uses a private format, presumably invented by Domainz]. whois.patho.gen.nz is a service that I run for free, and which, since 12 March, has attracted an average of just under 240 queries per day from all round the world. I hear the Waikato-run whois.domainz.net.nz receives a similar number of hits. It's very small and simple, and essentially retrieves a page of HTML from a UoW-supplied server using HTTP, and re-formats the data as ripe-181 to be presented via whois. <operational-content> When the Waikato system is turned down next month, whois.patho.gen.nz will stop working. The new system does not include provision for a whois service of any kind -- hence, at this time there will be no whois service for the NZ ccTLD. Anyone who currently depends on whois.domainz.net.nz, whois.patho.gen.nz or nz.whois-servers.net (which is a CNAME for tardis.patho.gen.nz) should investigate other means of obtaining access to the register. </operational-content> Note that I would be more than happy to modify whois.patho.gen.nz to provide continued service if someone from Domainz or Glazier could give me some pointers as to how I can pull the same information currently available at http://domainz.waikato.ac.nz/cgi-bin/DNZ-REGISTER?domain_name=foo.co.nz from the new system.

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