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Call for Presentations - NZNOG '05
by Donald Neal 15 Aug '04

15 Aug '04

Call for Presentations NZNOG '05 The next conference of the New Zealand Network Operators' Group is to be held in Hamilton between February 2nd and 4th 2005. Our hosts are the University of Waikato's WAND Network research group. NZNOG meetings provide opportunities for the exchange of technical information and discussion of issues relating to the operation of network services, with particular emphasis on New Zealand. NZNOG invites presentations on relevant topics. Suitable topics include, but are not limited to: Carrier IP network architecures; Internet exchange activities; VoIP deployment; IP Routing theory or practice; Peering policy; Access technologies including mobile and other wireless; Network and service management tools and practices; Other software relevant to network operation. Presentations from researchers and from practitioners are welcomed. Presentations don't need to fit any particular fixed length. Possible formats range from day-long tutorials to very short presentations floating an idea or reporting on a discovery in a less formal manner. Suggestions for topics for presentations or discussions are also welcome. Prospective presenters should in the first case send email to talks(a)nznog.org describing their intended presentation topic, and giving some idea of the level of detail and length of presentation which would suit them. We'd prefer to receive offers to present sooner rather than later, but there is a timetable: By 22 October 2004: All offers to present received By 31 October 2004: All acceptances of presentations notified. By 24 December 2004: Draft presentation slides received By 9 January 2005: Final presentation slides received A limited number of presentation slots may be available after the closing date for topics of unusual timeliness or importance. Further information, as it becomes available, will be posted at http:// www.nznog.org/ . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 15 Aug '04

15 Aug '04

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. The update causing these changes had the following mail headers: - From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)citylink.co.nz> - Cc: - Subject: - Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:38:51 +1200 (NZST) - Msg-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408161337520.14428(a)jennings.citylink.co.nz> NZRR Database Notification Department --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: Route set for Citylink to WIX members: 203.118.144.0/24, 198.48.0.0/22^22-24, 202.8.44.0/22^22-24, 203.97.231.224/28, 210.48.103.0/28, 210.48.103.144/28, 210.48.103.136/29, 203.109.148.24/29, 202.7.4.32/28 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040112 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040303 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040322 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040407 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040525 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040617 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040622 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040629 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040813 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: Route set for Citylink to WIX members: 203.118.144.0/24, 198.48.0.0/22^22-24, 202.8.44.0/22^22-24, 203.97.231.224/28, 210.48.103.0/28, 210.48.103.144/28, 210.48.103.136/29, 203.109.148.24/29, 203.79.85.80/29, 202.7.4.32/28 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040112 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040303 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040322 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040407 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040525 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040617 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040622 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040629 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040813 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040816 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 15 Aug '04

15 Aug '04

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: aut-num: AS4831 as-name: NZRR-AS4831 descr: BDT Ltd descr: initially peering at '202.7.1.3' descr: see Citylink RT job #956 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS4831 notify: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: matt(a)nzcity.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040816 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route: 202.36.76.0/23 descr: Route for BDT Ltd - AS4831 origin: AS4831 notify: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: matt(a)nzcity.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040816 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route: 210.48.127.0/24 descr: Route for BDT Ltd - AS4831 origin: AS4831 notify: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: matt(a)nzcity.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040816 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS4831 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by BDT Ltd - AS4831 members: 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 210.48.127.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: matt(a)nzcity.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040816 source: NZRR

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Telecom UBS "not the service recommended by the Commission"
by Juha Saarinen 13 Aug '04

13 Aug '04

No, not unlimited beer service, but the wholesale DSL thing. In case you've missed it, have a read of these two: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/UNID/16FA6ACE360C15CACC256EEF003360DD http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3584222 I received a media release late yesterday as well, which isn't up on the ComCom Web site yet. Here's a snippet from it: 'Current UBS not the service recommended by the Commission The Commerce Commission is advising businesses that the Unbundled Bitstream Service (UBS) currently being offered commercially by Telecom New Zealand differs significantly from the regulated bitstream service, recommended by the Commission in its unbundling report to the Minister of Communications, and due to come into force shortly. The Commission has become aware that the service being currently offered by Telecom has more limited characteristics than the bitstream service recommended by the Commission. "I would be concerned if telecommunications industry participants signed up to the current Telecom commercial offer under the impression that it was a proxy for the regulated service." said Telecommunications Commissioner Douglas Webb. ' The Commission's bitstream service isn't modelled on the Jetsurf 1GB plan or any Telecom retail plan. Looking at the service description, the commission requires a max upstream of 128Kbit/s and must "have an average of not less than 256Kbit/s" for the downstream, with a throughput rate for end users that mustn't be less than 32Kbit/s. -- Juha

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. The update causing these changes had the following mail headers: - From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)citylink.co.nz> - Cc: - Subject: - Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:23:25 +1200 (NZST) - Msg-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408131522270.3688(a)jennings.citylink.co.nz> NZRR Database Notification Department --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: Route set for Citylink to WIX members: 203.118.144.0/24, 198.48.0.0/22, 202.8.44.0/22^22-24, 203.97.231.224/28, 210.48.103.0/28, 210.48.103.144/28, 210.48.103.136/29, 203.109.148.24/29, 202.7.4.32/28 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040112 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040303 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040322 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040407 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040525 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040617 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040622 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040629 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: Route set for Citylink to WIX members: 203.118.144.0/24, 198.48.0.0/22^22-24, 202.8.44.0/22^22-24, 203.97.231.224/28, 210.48.103.0/28, 210.48.103.144/28, 210.48.103.136/29, 203.109.148.24/29, 202.7.4.32/28 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040112 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040303 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040322 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040407 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040525 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040617 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040622 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040629 changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040813 source: NZRR

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Re: [nznog] Unbudled Bitstream
by J S Russell 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Dave - Dave.net.nz wrote: > not really wanting to say this but... thats assuming that you use it > 24hrs a day, the average user(not my average use, or probably yours > but...) doesnt use their net connection 24hrs a day, assuming the > average user does 8 hrs a day(a fairly high average I'd have throught), > thats 12kbytes a second, which is just about fine. I'd have throught the > average user would be somewhere nearer to 4 or maybe 6 hours a day, but > anyway. Well, see now, my home machines actually tend to keep doing things via the internet, even when I'm not physically sitting in front of them and looking at stuff in a browser. In fact, I (and most of the people reading this list) tend to be use _less_ traffic at home than "power users" - because all our personal high-bandwidth p2p apps and audio/video streams and suchlike live on servers which tend to be connected to ISP core networks, or live in ISP co-location space. 12K/sec is "fine"? Great! I think I'd like to listen to Twisted Radio's high-quality web stream, and also .... oh, wait, I was going to talk about some other common internet stuff there, but I've pretty much already used up most of 12K/sec. Well, perhaps I'll turn all that stuff off, plunk myself down on the couch, fire up the xbox and pull up one of r2's high-quality video streams to watch on ... oh, no, I guess I sure as hell won't be doing that. And neither will anyone else at 256Kbits/sec, flat rate or not-flat rate. Because 256Kbits/sec is obscenely slow. A key point here is not to think about what most people currently do with their internet connection, it's to think about what they _could_ be doing if they had _real_ broadband. The lost opportunities from this lack of connectivity is the thing that people ought to really be mad about. A 256Kbits/sec bit rate, of which you will be allowed to sustain a fraction thereof, on a service which can do _8Mbits/sec_ is frankly, a load of ass. There are test residential FTTP installations in prodution elsewhere_right now_. True optical to the home - not science fiction, if you live in the right place you can just Go Buy One. I can see that from Telecom if it gets here - 10GBits/sec to the home, and you get a full 10Gbits/sec if you connect to Telecoms content server domains or gaming realms, and if you go anywhere else ... well, as you've pointed out, 12K/sec is "fine" isn't it? Speaking of which, I must point out yet again, The Telecom ADSL product somehow can do a full 8Mbits/sec speed flat-rate _FREE_ connection to one national platform (Jetstreamgames) yet somehow is "not provisioned" to do more than 10GB/month to another national platform (Any Non-Telecom ISP). Hell, TCNZ, I'll just run some optical cable over to wherever your JSG servers are, and .. oh, no, can't do that either. Why? "Policy", last time I asked. As I said in an earlier post to NZNOG, it's just Business As Usual. And you can't blame Telecom for it, they're just trying to protect their stock price and dividend, it's what they're legally obliged to do! It is, however, the job of the government to point at corporate interests and say "Oi! You're in a monopolistic position with regards to this resource, and we're _ordering_ you to do something that you naturally wouldn't do and open it up to others!" That didn't happen, though, did it? I am beginning to agree with other users on this thread. Let's put some alternate infrastructre in place and get some competition going. Woosh wireless manage to offer a flat-rate 256Kbits/sec connection over _cellular_ equipment for chrissakes! No cables AND it's portable! ICONZ Wireless on Waiheke offers 2Mbits/sec symmetical wireless connections, the largest of which offer 10GB of _international_ access for less than $99/month and throws in free totally unmetered line-speed flat-rate domestic access and that's _RETAIL_, not a pretend wholesale product. Sod this ADSL thing - it's damage - route around it. JSR -- John S Russell | Big Geek | Doing geek stuff.

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Telecom a Joke
by Terence 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Three weeks ago I put an order in for Jetstream, for our Richmond Office. Just thought I would call to find out what was happening with the connection. Xtra said that they have run out of ports at the exchange and that I am in a waiting queue for one to come available. They will give no time or date, or if they are going to upgrade the exchange. How much profit did they make last year ?. What about some re investment. Disclaimer : These figures could be wrong 795 mil profit 4 mil people. Annoyed Terence Blyth Managing Director Computer Technologies Ltd 19 Alma Street Box 584, Nelson New Zealand Phone ++ 643 545 9001 Fax ++ 643 545 9002 www.ctec.co.nz PRIVILEGED - PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information, which is confidential or privileged. If you receive this email and you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the email to the addressee), please disregard the contents of the email, delete the email and notify the author immediately.

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Re: [nznog] Unbudled Bitstream
by Hamish MacEwan 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

Hurrah JSR! > A key point here is not to think about what most people currently do > with their internet connection, it's to think about what they _could_ > be doing if they had _real_ broadband. The lost opportunities from > this lack of connectivity is the thing that people ought to really be > mad about. Exactly. I've met a number of people who deny they have even a Claytons broadband connection in ADSL, since they are unable to use it for fear of exceeding their capacity to enrich Telecom. The 10GB cap on the leisurely 256K we are to be doled out amounts to about a 14% duty-cycle. And I'm bemused as to the location of the "unbundling" in UBS? It looks more and more like it it well and truly bundled to avoid the inconvenience of competition for Telecom. > I am beginning to agree with other users on this thread. Let's put some > alternate infrastructre in place and get some competition going. You ever disagreed with that? Hope truly springs eternal... > Sod this ADSL thing - it's damage - route around it. <grin>, a line from a Digital Strategy response I'm working on: "The Internet was designed for resilience and its ability to route around damage is legend. This ability has often been interpreted to indicate that whatever the Internet routes around is damage, as in the classic, "The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." The Internet may provide a way to route around the legacy "Last mile," and the closed proprietary Central Office." > JSR Hamish. -- The world isn't worse. It's just that the news coverage is so much better.

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Unbudled Bitstream
by Steve Schmidt 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

I heard that TCNZ have changed the details of the UBS service and that now it will be a capped 10gb service. Anyone else know anything about this. Regards Steven Schmidt. CAUTION: This e-mail and any attachment(s) contains information that is intended to be read only by the named recipient(s). It may contain information that is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. This information is not to be used by any other person and/or organisation. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise us immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. Do not use any information contained in it.

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RE: [nznog] Unbudled Bitstream
by Seeby Woodhouse 11 Aug '04

11 Aug '04

Although the 'new' UBS DSL deal is not as good as the original deal, nor as flexible, I should point out that the traffic limit of 10GB that Telecom has imposed is an AGGREGATE traffic limit across all the users, not a 10GB limit PER user. Currently our JetStream Starter customer base does not use anywhere near 10GB of traffic on average, so hopefully this isn't something that we'll have to worry about. (crosses my fingers that we don't ever go over our limit, and that the overage fees don't get set at 20c/meg) Cheers Seeby -----Original Message----- From: Keith Davidson [mailto:keith(a)wise.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:32 PM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Unbudled Bitstream Certainly appears to be the case. See www.orcon.co.nz/company/press/54318/ text follows below. Keith Davidson ________________ "11th August 2004 - New Bitstream plans to remain unchanged On the 27th of July 2004, Orcon released a new, truly affordable 256k Flat rate residential broadband service for $49.95/mth based on the released 'Bitstream' wholesale DSL specification from Telecom. Two week's after Orcon's product release, Telecom have decided to change the specification by imposing a 10GB average traffic limit per user, and an agreement not to promote static IP addresses with the service. Orcon will honor the initial plans offered to customers at our cost, despite the changes that have been made. Orcon is currently the second largest provider of JetStream DSL in NZ, and was the first company to negotiate a Wholesale Services Agreement (WSA) with Telecom for a broad range of services. Orcon has been eagerly awaiting the wholesale DSL portion of the WSA to be finalised, as we believe that we can offer the consumer significantly better deals than are currently available. The moment Telecom told us of their planned Wholesale DSL (UBS) product in early July, we created pricing plans for our own DSL product (based on the Wholesale DSL components we would purchase from Telecom) and set about launching an advertising campaign based on these initial figures - taking a bet that Telecom's final wholesale pricing to us would either be the same or better than the initial figures. The supposed 'final' UBS specification was released by Telecom on 26th July, and as we had guessed, was slightly better than their initial proposal. Our ads for flat rate 256k DSL with a static IP address at the all-inclusive price of $49.95 started to come out a day later. As far as we were concerned, Telecom had finalised the wholesale deal for DSL that they would offer to us, and we had successfully launched our product. After a couple of weeks, with many thousands of advertising dollars already spent, and several hundred new DSL customer signed up, Telecom told us that the UBS specification they had come up with was going to be changed. Specifically, the 'flat-rate' nature of the product and the ability to advertise static IP addresses. We don't know whether the fact that Orcon came out with our flat-rate and static IP address product had anything to do with Telecom changing the specification to withdraw these capabilities, however no other ISPs had come out with any other offering, and therefore our product was seen as a 'reference' product in the market. However - As a champion for affordable broadband, Orcon has decided to wear the 10GB excess traffic charges at our cost so that we can continue to offer a flat rate product, and we will also honor the static IP address for users who have already signed up from an existing promotion wherever possible. We believe that it should the ISPs choice whether to offer Static IP addresses or provide a truly flat-rate service. Seeby Woodhouse MD Orcon Internet Limited" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Schmidt" <sschmidt(a)compass.net.nz> To: "nznog" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: [nznog] Unbudled Bitstream > > I heard that TCNZ have changed the details of the UBS service and that > now it will be a capped 10gb service. Anyone else know anything about > this. > > Regards > Steven Schmidt. > _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Orcon Internet Prefix List Updaet (2004-08-11)
by Craig Whitmore 10 Aug '04

10 Aug '04

For all those peering with Orcon Internet (AS17746) nationally, please update your prefix lists with the following networks (also in attached file). Added: ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 60.234.0.0/16 le 24 Regards, Craig Whitmore Orcon Internet Network Operations

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6509 Chassis
by J S Russell 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

Does anyone on this list have access to a bare Cisco 6509 chassis (preferably also with at least one 240V PSU module installed if possible, but it's not necessary) which they'd be willing to part with in exchange for some combination of dollars and/or a populated Cisco 5513 chassis (Sup2, three 24x10/100 planes, spare Sup1) and/or a lot of beer? If you have one, or could help me at all, please do let me know. JSR -- John S Russell | Big Geek | Doing geek stuff.

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nzWireless peering update
by Andrew Tipton 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

For those peering with us on WIX, we have added a new prefix (203.110.28.0/23). Full list: ip prefix-list nzwireless description nzWireless WIX prefixes <andrew.tipton(a)nzwireless.co.nz> ip prefix-list nzwireless seq 10 permit 210.54.151.0/24 le 29 ip prefix-list nzwireless seq 20 permit 203.110.28.0/23 le 29 -- Andrew Tipton Network Engineer nzWireless Ltd (04) 471-0905 (0211) 595-561

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RE: [nznog] APE Funnys - ISC Peering
by Craig Spiers 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

Yep, we do.. They requested we configure it about two months ago.. Actually, That about fits the picture.. Don't think it happened before the passwords were configured.. -----Original Message----- From: Simon Lyall [mailto:simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2004 1:08 p.m. To: Craig Spiers Subject: Re: [nznog] APE Funnys - ISC Peering Do you have md5 passwords setup? or perhaps they think you do? On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Craig Spiers wrote: > Anyone else seeing these errors? Happens every few minutes. Has been for a > couple of months now.. (ISC is the only peer I see these with - both > connections) > > > .Aug 10 12:42:51.304 +1200: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 192.203.154.99 Down > BGP Notification sent > .Aug 10 12:42:51.304 +1200: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor > 192.203.154.99 4/0 (hold time expired) 0 bytes > .Aug 10 12:43:23.328 +1200: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 192.203.154.99 Up > > Cheers > > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > -- Simon J. Lyall. | Very Busy | Mail: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: aut-num: AS24111 as-name: NZRR-AS24111 descr: NZwireless descr: initially peering at '202.7.1.69' descr: see Citylink RT job #929 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS24111 notify: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: andrew.tipton(a)nzwireless.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040810 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route: 203.110.28.0/23 descr: Route for NZwireless - AS24111 origin: AS24111 notify: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: andrew.tipton(a)nzwireless.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040810 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route: 210.54.151.0/24 descr: Route for NZwireless - AS24111 origin: AS24111 notify: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: andrew.tipton(a)nzwireless.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040810 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS24111 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by NZwireless - AS24111 members: 203.110.28.0/23^23-29, 210.54.151.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: andrew.tipton(a)nzwireless.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)wix.net.nz 20040810 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. The update causing these changes had the following mail headers: - From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)citylink.co.nz> - Cc: - Subject: - Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 10:56:55 +1200 (NZST) - Msg-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408101055140.13273(a)jennings.citylink.co.nz> NZRR Database Notification Department --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9872 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by Actrix - AS9872 members: 202.27.48.0/21^21-24, 202.49.152.0/21^21-24, 202.154.128.0/19^19-24, 203.96.16.0/20^20-24, 203.96.48.0/20^20-24 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: mikej(a)connections.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040809 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9872 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by Actrix - AS9872 members: 202.154.128.0/19^19-24, 203.96.16.0/20^20-24, 203.96.48.0/20^20-24 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: mikej(a)connections.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040809 changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040810 source: NZRR

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TEST - PLEASE IGNORE
by J S Russell 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

I've suddenly realised that I haven't seen any NZNOG posts for some time. So this is a test. Please ignore. JSR -- John S Russell | Big Geek | Doing geek stuff.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9872 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by Actrix - AS9872 members: 202.27.48.0/21^21-24, 202.49.152.0/21^21-24, 202.154.128.0/19^19-24, 203.96.16.0/20^20-24, 203.96.48.0/20^20-24 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: mikej(a)connections.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040809 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. The update causing these changes had the following mail headers: - From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)citylink.co.nz> - Cc: - Subject: - Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:08:39 +1200 (NZST) - Msg-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408091401400.8879(a)jennings.citylink.co.nz> NZRR Database Notification Department --- OBJECT BELOW DELETED: aut-num: AS4768 as-name: NZRR-AS4768 descr: University of Auckland descr: initially peering at '192.203.154.114' descr: see Citylink RT job #752 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS4768 notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: c.ashwal(a)auckland.ac.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040731 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW DELETED: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS4768 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by University of Auckland - AS4768 members: 130.216.0.0/16^16-24 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: c.ashwal(a)auckland.ac.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040731 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW DELETED: route: 130.216.0.0/16 descr: Route for University of Auckland - AS4768 origin: AS4768 notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: c.ashwal(a)auckland.ac.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040731 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 08 Aug '04

08 Aug '04

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: aut-num: AS9431 as-name: NZRR-AS9431 descr: University of Auckland descr: initially peering at '192.203.154.114' descr: see Citylink RT job #752 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS9431 notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: c.ashwal(a)auckland.ac.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040809 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route: 130.216.0.0/16 descr: Route for University of Auckland - AS9431 origin: AS9431 notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: c.ashwal(a)auckland.ac.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040809 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9431 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by University of Auckland - AS9431 members: 130.216.0.0/16^16-24 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: c.ashwal(a)auckland.ac.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)ape.net.nz 20040809 source: NZRR

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Accessing www.symantec.com
by Paul Adshead 04 Aug '04

04 Aug '04

Is anyone else having access problems accessing www.symantec.com? Does anyone know if there is any DOS in progress? Thanks, Paul Adshead.

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 04 Aug '04

04 Aug '04

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. Meetings We're now working towards our next annual conference, to be hosted by The WAND group in Hamilton on February 2nd to 4th, 2005. See http://www.nznog.org/ for details of this year's conference, which drew something over 120 participants. Also see http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering Exchange and those connected there. See http://www.wix.net.nz/ for the Wellington Internet Exchange. About This Mailing List This list has around 690 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink and ihug Ltd. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins Donald Neal |Diplomacy - Look what Technical Specialist |the university gave me. Operations Engineering | Integration & Services Division +----------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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IANA IPv4 allocations and bogon update: 71/8, 72/8
by Rob Thomas 03 Aug '04

03 Aug '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, team. [ Apologies to those of you who receive this note in multiple forums. ] The numerous Team Cymru bogon projects have been updated as of 02 AUG 2004 to reflect the following IANA allocation made on 02 AUG 2004: 71/8 Aug 04 ARIN 72/8 Aug 04 ARIN IANA allocations change over time, so please check regularly to ensure you have the latest filters if you are not using the bogon BGP feed(s). We do announce updates to the bogon projects to sundry lists, such as the bogon-announce list. We can not stress this point strongly enough - these allocations change. If you do not adjust your filters, you will be unable to access perhaps large portions of the Internet. Worse yet, you may end up blocking access for people who transit through you. Please do not apply any filters or blocks to your network without carefully considering the ramifications of doing so. As a point of reference, the Team Cymru master Bogon Reference Page can be found here: <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/> A quick summary of the documents and projects that have been updated include the following: HTTP The Bogon List - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html> The Text Bogon Lists - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-bn-nonagg.txt> - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-bn-agg.txt> Secure BIND Template - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bind-template.html> Secure IOS Template (Cisco) - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-ios-template.html> Secure BGP Template (Cisco) - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bgp-template.html> Secure JUNOS Template (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-template.htm> Secure JUNOS BGP Template (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-bgp-template.htm> Ingress Prefix Filter Templates, Loose and Strict (Cisco) - <ftp://ftp-eng.cisco.com/cons/isp/security/Ingress-Prefix-Filter-Templates/> Ingress Prefix Filter Template, Loose (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-isp-prefix-filter-loose.htm> Ingress Prefix Filter Template, Strict (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-isp-prefix-filter-strict.htm> BGP Bogon route-server for AUTOMATED updates of bogon filters - All bogon route-server peers have already received the appropriate BGP prefix updates. - <http://www.cymru.com/BGP/bogon-rs.html> RADb fltr-unallocated fltr-martian fltr-bogons - <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html#radb> RIPE NCC fltr-unallocated fltr-martian fltr-bogons - <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html#ripe> DNS Bogon (bogons.cymru.com) zone - <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html#dns> Monitoring Bogon prefix monitoring - <http://www.cymru.com/BGP/robbgp-bogon.html> Bogus ASN monitoring - <http://www.cymru.com/BGP/asnbogusrep.html> Please feel free to contact Team Cymru <team-cymru(a)cymru.com> with any comments, questions, or concerns. Thanks! Rob, for Team Cymru. - -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty); -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 iQCVAwUBQQ/hFlkX3QAo5sgJAQEV6gP+PRRJozjAEJ180JTE9KQD+kFsd0n2tQOX TNpOiE4BtjaTfwsZhzgKNYtzRsYdAwL1/zLpWOyjK3J+tllUasxQ+lsDKqGjTVii wATUj+2/JV9VGb14AVkkMz4mSEiNw1rNJxDvy+P40yyECPegWS93Em75DQjrUm3X o5SD7dgJPbI= =2ydr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: [nznog] NTP weirdness
by Eustace, Glen 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

Just an FYI, I seem to have fixed our problem. I have added restrict 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 nopeer nomodify notrust notrap Which probably should have been there all the time. Win 2k3 is announcing itself in such a way that before the 'restrict' we tried peering with it. Not sure why this wasn't an issue with 4.1.1 Now we simply reply and take no further action. 16:13:30.023910 202.50.245.234.2823 > 130.123.2.99.ntp: v3 sym_act strat 0 poll 17 prec -6 16:13:30.023960 130.123.2.99.ntp > 202.50.245.234.2823: v3 sym_pas strat 2 poll 17 prec -17 (DF) [tos 0x10] -- .*. | Glen Eustace, Infrastructure Development Engineer /V\ | Information Technology Services PN460, Turitea, (/ \) | Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand. ( ) | Ph: +64 6 356 9099 x 81005, Fax: +64 6 350 5607, Mob: +64 27 450 0321 ^^-^^ |------------------------------------------------------------

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NTP weirdness
by Glen Eustace 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

Hi all, I am need of some help with our public ntp setup. We upgraded our servers from RH7.3 ->FC1 (ntp4.1.1->4.1.2) last week and I have now had several reports of people who are seeing our servers apparently port scanning them :-( I didn't change the config for ntp but can confirm that after their server first asks for the time, we start sending them packets on high UDP ports. The complaints that I have been investigating are Windows servers but that may be a red-herring. I have previously treated ntp as a black-box but am obviously going to have to understand things better. Any help would be appreciated. Glen -- .*. | Glen Eustace, Infrastructure Development Engineer /V\ | Information Technology Services PN460, Turitea, (/ \) | Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand. ( ) | Ph: +64 6 356 9099 x 81005, Fax: +64 6 350 5607, ^^_^^ | Mob: +64 27 4 500 321 ------+-----------------------------------------------------

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Fw: ISP Details for inclusion inside DSE ADSL Manuals
by Dan Clark 01 Aug '04

01 Aug '04

This may be of interest to some ADSL operators on here. Kind Regards Dan Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Day" <chris.day(a)dse.co.nz> To: <adsl(a)lists.unixathome.org> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:10 PM Subject: ISP Details for inclusion inside DSE ADSL Manuals > Hi all. > > We are in the process of updating the user manuals and quick start guides for our DSE branded ADSL products. If you are an ISP reselling Telecom's (PPPoA) ADSL services and you would like details to be published in our manuals, please respond to chris.day(a)dse.co.nz with the following information: > > Sales Email: > Sales Phone: > Support Email: > Support Phone: > Weblink: > Company Name: > Primary DNS: > Secondary DNS: > Incoming Mail Server: > Outgoing Mail Server: > > As this this data will eventually be reprinted in all DSE branded ADSL Modems, Routers and Filters, we will also need authorization to redistribute it to consumer market. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Chris Day > Senior Buyer - DSE(NZ)Ltd > email: chris.dau(a)dse.co.nz > Physical: 221 Bush Rd, Albany, Auckland, New Zealand > Postal: Private Bag 102-903, N.S.M.C., Auckland, NZ. > Phone: +64-9-414-2844 - Fax: +64-9-414-2801 - Cell: +64-21-745-411 > > -- > This message is part of the NZ ADSL mailing list. > see http://unixathome.org/adsl/ for archives, FAQ, > and various documents. > To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo(a)lists.unixathome.org > with "unsubscribe adsl" in the body of the message > >

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ConceptNET Limited Peering Update
by Craig Spiers 01 Aug '04

01 Aug '04

To all those peering with ConceptNET Nationally over APE - we have updated our prefix list. Changes: Added 203.21.31.0/24 Full Prefix List: ip prefix-list conceptnet description ConceptNET Domestic Routes <craig(a)concept.net.nz> ip prefix-list conceptnet seq 5 permit 202.150.96.0/20 ip prefix-list conceptnet seq 10 permit 202.127.8.0/22 ip prefix-list conceptnet seq 15 permit 203.97.44.0/24 ip prefix-list conceptnet seq 20 permit 202.49.250.0/24 ip prefix-list conceptnet seq 25 permit 202.50.176.0/24 ip prefix-list conceptnet seq 30 permit 203.21.31.0/24 Regards, Craig Spiers ConceptNET Limited

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[nzlug] Problems connecting to Telstra Broadband service in
by Jo 30 Jul '04

30 Jul '04

Matthew could you reply back to me re your post in nz.general. Have something to same which cant be done publicly. Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. ---Confucius

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Update to ihug prefix list.
by Simon Lyall 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Ihug has updated the list of networks we are advertising across APE and elsewhere. We have added several new networks today. The complete prefix list and the changes are below, they are also available from: http://www.ihug.net/ihug-prefix-list Current Prefix list is: ip prefix-list ihug-networks description ihug peering prefix-list contact: noc(a)ihug.co.nz : Updated 2004-07-29 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 192.107.113.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.21.130.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.21.136.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.36.44.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.36.94.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.37.136.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.37.182.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.37.187.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.46.160.0/20 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.33.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.46.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.48.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.59.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.63.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.88.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.144.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.148.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.176.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.178.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.180.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.186.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.240.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.249.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.50.84.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.50.103.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.50.188.0/22 le 22 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.50.255.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 203.96.192.0/19 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 203.109.128.0/17 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 203.118.128.0/18 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 203.173.128.0/17 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 210.55.110.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 210.55.184.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 210.55.202.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 210.55.248.0/21 le 24 The following networks were added on 2004-07-29: ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.33.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.46.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.48.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.63.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.49.178.0/24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 202.50.188.0/22 le 22 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 203.96.192.0/19 le 24 ip prefix-list ihug-networks permit 210.55.110.0/24 -- Simon Lyall <simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz> Senior Engineer, Ihug Ltd, Auckland, NZ

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[nzlug] Problems connecting to Telstra Broadband service in Wellington via a DSE XH1151 Broadband Router? (fwd)
by Matthew Poole 22 Jul '04

22 Jul '04

This is fairly OT, but I figure that the likelihood of someone on here being able to help him is higher than the other lists he posted to. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:13:00 +1200 From: Chris Day <chris.day(a)dse.co.nz> Reply-To: nzlug(a)linux.net.nz To: adsl(a)lists.unixathome.org, broadband(a)lists.unixathome.org, nzlug(a)linux.net.nz Subject: [nzlug] Problems connecting to Telstra Broadband service in Wellington via a DSE XH1151 Broadband Router? Over the last couple of weeks we have seen an increase in customer calls regarding the use of the DSE XH1151 Broadband Router with the Telstra Wellington Broadband service. For some unknown reason some routers are suddenly dropping the connection. In almost all cases the customer indicates the router has been working fine. It seems to us the properties of the service has somehow changed and we are trying to contact Telstra to resolve the issue but have been unsuccessful in making any meaningful contact. If you work for Telstra or know of anyone in a position of authority that can help us, it would be most appreciated if you could contact ross.hamblin(a)dse.co.nz We are eager to work with Telstra and our manufacturers to resolve this issue. Kind regards, Chris Day Senior Buyer DSE(NZ)Ltd ------------------------------------------------------------------- To remove yourself from this list, email nzlug-request(a)linux.net.nz with "unsubscribe" in the body of the message.

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RE: [nznog] Jetstreamgames Realm Ips?
by NZNOG＠neilnz.com 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

Thanks for the prompt replies guys... To summarise: - Yes, there is more than one IP and I now have them so my original idea should work. - I could use DNAT on one or both routers to fix it all at my end. - I wasn't wanting to do transfers between the 2 routers, only between each router and the JSG realm. - I was planning a multithread (2-3 threads per router) FTP DL of a large file, simultaneously from both routers, while measuring speed, error rates, retrains etc from both, then switching ADSL lines and repeating to see if one line is better than the other. A couple of iterations should allow me to factor out line differences. Thanks to all respondents for ideas. Cheers - Neil G

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Jetstreamgames Realm Ips?
by jfp 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

> Now, I can only find one IP address for this, and was hoping > someone might be able to tell me if it's available over 2 > different Ips so I can use a host based static route to get > one file through one NIC (and ADSL router #1) and another > file through the other NIC (and ADSL router #2) If one of the routers does DNAT you could use the same ip, just use the translated IP on the router that allows it. jfp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jean-Francois Pirus <jfp(a)clearfield.com> Clearfield Software Ltd Phone (+64-9) 358 2081 4th Floor 8-10 Whitaker Place Fax (+64-9) 358 2083 P O Box 2348 Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Jetstreamgames Realm Ips?
by NZNOG＠neilnz.com 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

Hi guys - I think this is appropriate here... I have been asked to arrange a head to head speed test for a new product with an existing competitor product (ADSL routers) and I'd like to use the JSG realm for this... However, I'd like to use one PC for side by side testing and graphing (Yes, we have marketing people that want to see this, and to show it off to visitors). This would be easy with Jetstream but our test accounts are only tiny traffic ones, so the obvious choice is JSG. Now, I can only find one IP address for this, and was hoping someone might be able to tell me if it's available over 2 different Ips so I can use a host based static route to get one file through one NIC (and ADSL router #1) and another file through the other NIC (and ADSL router #2) If we can't do this then we need to do a Router A THEN Router B and the marketing people just aren't excited about that. (Also, using one machine at the same time elimiates PC differences) (Yes, I know there are other issues, NIC cards, ADSL line differences etc - Marketing doesn't care) Cheers - Neil G

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RE: [nznog] Voyager national routing
by Gordon Smith 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

Well, looks like that router isn't managed from here... Good news is that the MCI rep here is passing all this on to their Ops Manager in Sydney. He'll also let them know that the domain info is no longer valid, and to update their contact info :-) I had hoped that they'd have someone on this list.......

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Voyager national routing
by Gordon Smith 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

Does anyone have any contact info for whoever has taken over the management of the Voyager peering router on APE? Failing that, is it still carrying any legitimate traffic? It's leaking international traffic, which makes it a bit too convenient for handing off DoS attacks - national peering links being larger than intl.... Anything from that router has an international return path. Anyone seeing any route advertisements from there? BTW, all the domain contact info for them is invalid - the phone number listed in the Domainz record is for a sheetmetal shop on the Nth Shore!! Cheers, Gordon

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Re: Domain Registry of America at it again
by Dominic O'Hare 17 Jul '04

17 Jul '04

The Internet Name Group are back too trading under "domainnames.com.au" using an eNom reseller account. ----- Original Message ----- From: <nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> To: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: NZNOG Digest, Vol 19, Issue 14 > Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to > nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Domain Registry of America at it again (Juha Saarinen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:11:06 +1200 > From: Juha Saarinen <juha(a)saarinen.org> > Subject: [nznog] Domain Registry of America at it again > To: NZ NOG <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <40F898CA.3000009(a)saarinen.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Had a "DOMAIN NAME EXPIRATION NOTICE" in the PO box today, and I suspect > many others in NZ will receive similar letters as well, from the > infamous domain name registration slammers. > > Those of you providing registration services may want to warn your > customers about this -- again. > > Interesting diagram charting the operators behind the scam and their > outfits here: > > http://chesley-rafferty.whatsinaname.com.au/slammers/ > > -- > Juha > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > End of NZNOG Digest, Vol 19, Issue 14 > ************************************* > >

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Domain Registry of America at it again
by Juha Saarinen 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Had a "DOMAIN NAME EXPIRATION NOTICE" in the PO box today, and I suspect many others in NZ will receive similar letters as well, from the infamous domain name registration slammers. Those of you providing registration services may want to warn your customers about this -- again. Interesting diagram charting the operators behind the scam and their outfits here: http://chesley-rafferty.whatsinaname.com.au/slammers/ -- Juha

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WorldxChange Peering
by Gordon Smith 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

Hi all, WorldxChange is now peering at APE. Would anyone wishing to peer with us directly please email peering(a)wxnz.net, and include AS number, prefix list, and router IP. Our details are: AS 17435 Prefix list: ip prefix-list wxnz-networks permit 202.182.192.0/19 le 20 Router IP: 192.203.154.108 If you're already peered with the APE route-servers, you should be seeing our route advertisements. BTW, we're seeing quite a bit of garbage originating nationally, which we're dropping. Seems to be a mixture of worms and exploits. The 2 main sources are Woosh and Voyager. Woosh - looks to be virus traffic; not a big deal, but it did show that the range 202.74.192.0 - 202.74.223.255 is missing reverse DNS Voyager - Really weird stuff. You guys need to add outbound filters. I'm seeing traffic from you claiming to be from Latin America and Level3 Networks. If you want a copy of logs, etc. give me a shout Cheers, Gordon Smith CCNA IP Services Manager WorldxChange Communications Ltd.

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CallPlus prefix list update
by Steve Hawken 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

Hi, For networks peering with CallPlus AS 9790 please add the following to your prefix list, full prefix list attached. ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.36.232.0/24 Cheers, Steve Steve Hawken Senior Network Engineer DDI ++ 64 9 919 6038 Mobile ++ 64 21 778 891 Email steveh(a)callplus.co.nz <mailto:steveh(a)callplus.co.nz>

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System Admin Wanted
by Lamar - LH Web Services 11 Jul '04

11 Jul '04

My apologies if this is a slightly off-topic post. 02.Net Internet Services (Nelson based full ISP) will have an open job position for a system administrator (and also a couple of helpdesk staff) within the next 1 to 6 months. Duties would include managing Windows 2000, 2003 and Linux servers (mainly web, mail, radius, dns, etc). Cisco knowledge would be good too. Applicants must either be in Nelson or willing to relocate to Nelson. If your interested, feel free to contact me off list for more information and full duties, etc can be provided. -- Lamar Hargreaves :: Director :: 02.Net Internet Services :: LH Web Services Phone - 03 548 7474 (Ext 204) :: Fax - 03 548 4090 :: Email - lamar(a)02net.co.nz Postal Address - P.O Box 8020, Victory, Nelson, New Zealand This e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. Any opinions, advice or views contained in this e-mail may not reflect on the views of 02.Net Internet Services or LH Web Services.

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Catalyst IT prefix update
by David Zanetti 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

For the people who peer with Catalyst IT (AS 23959) over WIX, we've got a new block behind us. Please update your filters as you feel appropriate. :) Full list follows: ip prefix-list catalyst description Catalyst IT netadmin(a)catalyst.net.nz ip prefix-list catalyst seq 10 permit 202.46.190.0/24 ip prefix-list catalyst seq 20 permit 202.49.159.0/24 ip prefix-list catalyst seq 30 permit 202.20.6.0/24 ip prefix-list catalyst seq 40 permit 202.36.119.0/24 Thanks. -- David Zanetti <david.zanetti(a)catalyst.net.nz> Team Leader, Systems Administration +64-4-8032233 +64-21-402260

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TNZ Network Issues.
by Drew_Collins＠apn.co.nz 07 Jul '04

07 Jul '04

I just had the following emailed to me from Global Gateway (it may help). Upstream Provider Initial Outage Notification Australia Global-Gateway Internet is currently experiencing service disruption which began on 8th July 1400hrs You are likely to experience intermittent packet loss on your Australian service until this problem is resolved. The problem will be resolved by Australian provider early tomorrow morning. GGIS apologises for any inconvenience to you or your customers. Logged by Maurice Wilkinson on Thu Jul 8 17:34:13 2004 Drew Collins Group Communications Manager Group IT Services NZ APN Holdings NZ Ltd My DDI: +64 9 373 9573 My Mobile +64 21 823268 My Fax: +64 9 373 6411 Ph: +64 9 379 5050 My eMail: drew_collins(a)apn.co.nz Website: www.apn.co.nz *************************************************************************** This eMail may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of APN News & Media NZ Ltd. For more information on APN News & Media NZ Ltd please visit our web site at http://www.apn.co.nz ***************************************************************************

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Slow access to NZ sites
by rod_christie＠wilsonandhorton.co.nz 06 Jul '04

06 Jul '04

Anyone else getting reports of slow access to their sites from international locations. Connected to both "T"s, but suspect "Telstra" as they were screwing with their international cache yesterday. Cheers Rod APNNZ Rod Christie Network Consultant APN Holdings NZ Limited E-Mail: rod_christie(a)apn.co.nz Mobile: (64) 21 636 909 DDI: (64) 9 373 9571 Fax: (64) 9 373 6411 *************************************************************************** This eMail may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of APN News & Media NZ Ltd. For more information on APN News & Media NZ Ltd please visit our web site at http://www.apn.co.nz ***************************************************************************

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Woosh\Walker Wireless Prefix List Update
by Beatty Lane-Davis 06 Jul '04

06 Jul '04

Hullo again, we are advertising a new prefix to our valued peers at APE & WIX: 202.21.16.0/20 So we will now be advertising: ip prefix-list Woosh seq 5 permit 202.74.192.0/19 le 20 ip prefix-list Woosh seq 10 permit 202.21.16.0/20 Cheers, b Beatty Lane-Davis blanedavis(a)woosh.com Woosh Wireless +64.21.544.716

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Telstra peering pricing.
by Simon Lyall 06 Jul '04

06 Jul '04

Little article here by the usual suspect: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/UNID/B67C1AFC59BD060FCC256EC900164A26?O… "According to several ISP sources who did not wish to be named, a month's megabit-per-second-level connection of TelstraClear's Domestic Internet Service will cost $160 plus GST. Purchase of TelstraClear circuits will also be required. " It would be interesting to see at what bandwidth the link will be worth getting, for small ISPs the circuit cost will probably mean it's just cheaper to use either their existing International link or another domestic provider to deliver the bandwidth. Even for larger providers the revenue is only going to be one or two thousand per month each. Not much to compensate for pissing everybody else off. And the larger providers will have plenty of options like sending Telstra customers like Waikato University bills to route their traffic nationally. -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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(no subject)
by Drew_Collins＠apn.co.nz 06 Jul '04

06 Jul '04

This is the formal reply from TCL on a email I sent them two days ago. Last Sunday morning between 0100-0600 during the regular planned maintanance window we upgraded 90% of the IP Networks' access switches to a new version of code. The main reason for this upgrade was to introduce software into the core switches that would support 'hitless upgrades' upon the next release of processor cards. This feature added resiliance to the IP Network in that we could upgrade software on the core switches and customers would not notice any outage. During the course of Sunday day/night there were a number of customers who appeared to have unrelated issues and engineers worked through the evening to resolve these. On Monday morning, when most customers started work, other network faults were reported. Along with some unrelated issues, it also appeared that there were issues with regard to the software upgrade on Sunday morning. About 12% of IP customers were affected with software issues related to the upgrade. After further diagnosis, it was decided to roll back to the previous, known good, software version of code on the core access switches in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch. This was achieved by around 11am Monday morning and appeared to help restore service to affected customers. >From that point on, it was decided to work through all known affected customers with issues and rollback the software on the affected switches that they are connected to. This work carried on through the day on a case by case basis. This process will continue, as required, and engineers will work with any further affected customer. While the above is occuring, engineers are working with suppliers to resolve the issues and then a plan can be devised to complete the upgrade. We regret the impact this has had on customers. Significant steps were taken prior to the software change to avoid this happening. It is important to note that this version of GA (or General availability) code had gone through extensive testing in the TelstraClear IP Lab and had been running successfully online in parts of the Network for several weeks. Russell Prince TelstraClear Business Consultant Drew Collins Group Communications Manager Group IT Services NZ APN Holdings NZ Ltd My DDI: +64 9 373 9573 My Mobile +64 21 823268 My Fax: +64 9 373 6411 Ph: +64 9 379 5050 My eMail: drew_collins(a)apn.co.nz Website: www.apn.co.nz *************************************************************************** This eMail may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of APN News & Media NZ Ltd. For more information on APN News & Media NZ Ltd please visit our web site at http://www.apn.co.nz ***************************************************************************

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RE: [nznog] (no subject)
by Scott Walsh 05 Jul '04

05 Jul '04

> Value their jobs ? It's company policy to NOT advertise major outtages > ? I'm more referring to current outtages, if anything. LET PEOPLE KNOW. I know departments in large provides that have a policy of not advising of planned outages, let alone unplanned (not implying that this is TC's). The techs/helpdesk in companies in companies that do not provide full information they are usual following their company policies or guidelines (or working with what they at the time). If techs/helpdesk doesn't give out information for policy reason, in my view the best people to try and change with this with are your account managers. Thanks Scott Walsh Service Implementation Specialist Logical CSI Level 2, 48 Greys Ave, P.O Box 5379, Wellesley Street, Auckland, New Zealand Tel: +64 9 359 4104 Fax: +64 9 309 3242 Mob: +64 21 307 763 www.nz.logical.com This email communication does not create or vary any contractual relationship between Logical and you. Internet communications are not secure and accordingly Logical does not accept any legal liability for the contents of this message. The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient at the email address to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Logical on 0800 802 729 quoting the name of the sender and the addressee and then delete it from your system. Please note that neither Logical nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any).

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Re: [nznog] (no subject)
by neil gardner 05 Jul '04

05 Jul '04

>>> Drew Broadley <drew(a)corrupt.co.nz> 6/07/2004 4:37:28 p.m. >>> >I'm sure there are quite a few TC technicians on this list, why do none >of them announce it on here ? As has already been commented, I'm damn sure they aren't allowed to comment publically on the issues like this - and this list is actually public. A more reasonable lament would be to wonder why on earth their helpdesk was left to make up excuses when the TC knew about the problem very early and were already working through a plan to resolve the issues. I know that I would have felt MUCh happier with "We have a known problem with some core switches - it doesn't affect everyone but is affecting a lot of people. We're executing a rollback to a known good configuration. I can't give you a specific ETA on return of service for you but we expect to have 95% of the affected customers back online before 3pm", than I was with the "We've got upstream provider problems I think" The only difference between the 2 is a 5 minute email to the helpdesk staff from those in the know. Cheers - N. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesyn Research Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesyn Research.

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Urgent need for a Cisco with async serial port
by David Zanetti 05 Jul '04

05 Jul '04

We require fairly urgently a small Cisco router with at least one X.21 serial interface and Ethernet, for routing some IP. Recommended sources, and/or offers of actual units very welcome! -- David Zanetti <david.zanetti(a)catalyst.net.nz> Team Leader, Systems Administration +64-4-8032233 +64-21-402260

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RE: [nznog] How to get square eyes
by Richard Naylor 05 Jul '04

05 Jul '04

At 06:03 p.m. 5/07/2004 +1200, Regan Murphy wrote: > > 4 TV stations now available - TV-One, TV-2, Shine TV and Maori TV > > > > check out www.r2.co.nz/meta/live.htm > > > >Went to fire up the TV One stream to catch the news but it seems to be >broadcasting TV2 instead? done battle with remotes. Should be all good now. no front panel controls and 3 STBs use the same remote. <sigh> at least I got the weather for next few days. (missed tomorrow, of course) There is some blocking artifacts due to satellite reception at the moment. This is also the cause of the occasional hue. Tomorrow we will try and put up some alternate bit rates for you to try as well as making the web pages a little more coherent. But what you see now is here to stay, so you can tell folks about it. rich

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