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RE: [nznog] nznog 2003. Possible clash
by Donald Neal 16 Feb '03

16 Feb '03

> > -----Original Message----- > > From: Simon Lyall [mailto:simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz] > > Sent: Friday, 14 February 2003 10:34 > > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Subject: [nznog] nznog 2003. Possible clash > > > > > > Can someone confirm the date for nznog 2003? According to > this email: > > > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2003-January/005754.html > > > > it's on the 10th to 12th of July. > > Yes, those are the planned dates. > > > just I notice that this appears to clash with the Netsafe > conference: > > > > http://www.netsafe.org.nz/conferences/conferences default.asp > > > > I'm not sure how much the overlap of people is but it might > > affect some. I've heard back from one person that this is likely to affect them. If there isn't anyone else, I don't think we'll be doing anything about this. - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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FW: APEC TEL IPv6 Workshop
by Frank March 14 Feb '03

14 Feb '03

Forwarded for your information. I am not aware of any NZers attending and would be very interested to hear from anyone thinking of going. --- Frank March Senior Specialist Adviser, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Phone (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax (+64 4) 474 2659; Mobile (+64) 21 042 9205 -----Original Message----- From: Crick, Gabrielle [mailto:Gabrielle.Crick(a)dcita.gov.au] Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:40 To: 'apectel-poc(a)lists.dcita.gov.au' Subject: APEC TEL IPv6 Workshop Dear colleagues The organisers of the APEC TEL IPv6 workshop invite APEC member economies to participate in the APEC TEL IPv6 workshop being held in Bangkok, Thailand on 20-21 March 2003, just prior to APEC TEL27 in Malaysia. The workshop will cover: Issues surrounding the current standard of Internet Protocol version 4 (IPv4) and how it limits the number of Internet Protocol (IP) addresses available globally. This lack of potential access will threaten all other efforts to bridge the digital divide. The need for policy makers, regulators, and decision makers in APEC economics to be familiar with issues in moving from IPv4 to IPv6 including transition, operation, financial impact, applications, security, and quality of service issues. Risks and benefits of adopting IPv6. For further information on the workshop and registration details please read the attached documents or go to www.totacademy.com. If you require additional information please contact either: Dr. Jack Treuhaft e-mail: treuhaj(a)algonquincollege.com Dr. Pongthiti Pongsilamanee e-mail: ppongs01(a)tot.co.th Kind regards Ms Gabrielle Crick Office of the APEC Telecommunications and Information Working Group Chair Department of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts Level 1, 38 Sydney Ave, BARTON GPO Box 8771 Canberra 2601 AUSTRALIA Ph +61 2 6271 1296 Fax +61 2 6271 1800 _________________________________________________________________________ The information transmitted is for the use of the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, disclosure, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may result in severe penalties. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Security Adviser of the Department of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts, telephone (02) 6271-1880 and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. _________________________________________________________________________ http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer.

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RE: [nznog] nznog 2003. Possible clash
by Donald Neal 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Lyall [mailto:simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Friday, 14 February 2003 10:34 > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [nznog] nznog 2003. Possible clash > > > Can someone confirm the date for nznog 2003? According to this email: > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2003-January/005754.html > > it's on the 10th to 12th of July. Yes, those are the planned dates. > just I notice that this appears to clash with the Netsafe conference: > > http://www.netsafe.org.nz/conferences/conferences default.asp > > I'm not sure how much the overlap of people is but it might > affect some. Could anyone affected by this please speak up NOW. - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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My apologies to the list for the auto responder, the problem has been rectified.
by Gavin Palmer 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

Cheers Gavin Palmer

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nznog 2003. Possible clash
by Simon Lyall 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

Can someone confirm the date for nznog 2003? According to this email: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2003-January/005754.html it's on the 10th to 12th of July. just I notice that this appears to clash with the Netsafe conference: http://www.netsafe.org.nz/conferences/conferences_default.asp I'm not sure how much the overlap of people is but it might affect some. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz Ihug Ltd, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz

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Re: [nznog] Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week
by Lin Nah 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Joerg Micheel wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 03:52:24PM +1300, Nevil Brownlee wrote: > > > I'm pleased to announce that Vinton Cerf will give a public lecture on "The > > > Internet: its future and the opportunities it presents", at the University of > > > Auckland campus from 6pm to 7pm on Thursday 20 February 2003. (Venue: U of Auckland City Campus, Library Building Basement B28) Many Thanks to Nevil for giving us the information... > So everyone can safely attend Christophe's talk on Tuesday there, > without missing out on Vint Cerf :-) And the talk is on a Thursday! Would anyone be interested in a meal of Curry and Beer after the talk? We can make a booking at one of the restaurants in the city ( eg there's 2 or 3 in Lorne St - down the hill from campus ) if people are interested. Possibly make the reservation for 7:30pm with a warning to the restaurant that we may be late due to attending a lecture on campus. What do you think? Expressions of interest either to invite(a)auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com or me please. lin ps Also curry tomorrow night at Sitar restaurant, Mt Eden Rd, 7:30pm.

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New IANA IPv4 allocations and bogon updates
by Rob Thomas 13 Feb '03

13 Feb '03

Hi, NZNOG listfolk. [ Apologies to those of you who have seen this post in other fora. ] IANA has allocated 222/8 and 223/8 to APNIC as of February 2003. The sundry bogon projects have been updated to reflect these allocations. You will find the catch-all Bogon Reference Page here: http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html This includes links to the Secure IOS Template, Secure Juniper Template, bogon monitoring, and other associated references. Both 222/8 and 223/8 were withdrawn from the bogon route-server as of 13 FEB 02:01:00 US CST. Thanks! Rob, for Team Cymru. -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);

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Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week
by Centurion Computer Technology Ltd 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

You will need to notify the US Embassy in advance if you want to attend the Tuesday talk. I will copy the PDF file I received from the Embassy to anyone emailing me direct for further information. Can I get the pdf please? Thanks -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technolgy Limited Ph: (04) 565 1344 (025) 374 387 email: centurion(a)paradise.net.nz

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DNS Zone Push Review
by Nick Griffin 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

The current number of DNS Zone Pushs being executed is 2 per day (11am and 7pm). I am currently reviewing this and am proposing that the number is increased to a maximum of 6 per 24 hour period with the following timetable 3am, 7 am, 11am, 3pm, 7pm, and 11pm. As apart of the review I am seeking feedback from registrars, stakeholders and interested parties: a) If there are any reasons that should be considered that would stop this from occurring. b) If there is a lead time to update your systems to cater with such a change, and what that lead might be. c) if there is a timetable that is prefered over that proposed. When doing the review I shall be taking into account the above when deciding the Zone Push timetable and roll out schedule. The timetable that I will be working to is: 28 February Receipt of comments 7 March Announcement of Zone push timetable and implementation schedule This notice will also be published on the NZRS website, DNC website, the SRS newsletter and the NZNOG. Cheers Nick Nick Griffin Registry Manager .nz Registry Services PO Box 24361 Wellington New Zealand e nick.griffin(a)nzrs.net.nz <mailto:nick.griffin(a)nzrs.net.nz> m 64 21 505 229 p 64 4 931 6977 f 64 4 931 6979 w www.nzrs.net.nz <http://www.nzrs.net.nz> CAUTION : This Email message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this Email in error, please notify me immediately and delete all material pertaining to this Email. Thank you. -- Nick Griffin Registry Manager .nz Registry Services PO Box 24361 Wellington New Zealand e nick.griffin(a)nzrs.net.nz <mailto:nick.griffin(a)nzrs.net.nz> m 64 21 505 229 p 64 4 931 6977 f 64 4 931 6979 w www.nzrs.net.nz <http://www.nzrs.net.nz> CAUTION : This Email message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this Email in error, please notify me immediately and delete all material pertaining to this Email. Thank you.

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ISDN performance
by Michael Hallager 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Hello, Can anyone please inform me *From first hand experience only* what the average latency is across a Centrex Auckland BRA ISDN? Best regards, Michael Hallager michael at comsolve.net.nz -------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [nznog] FW: APEC TEL IPv6 Workshop
by Mike Clark 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

some good ones linked to from vint cerfs site: http://www.worldcom.com/global/resources/cerfs_up/issues/ -----Original Message----- From: Andy Linton [mailto:asjl(a)lpnz.org] Sent: Thursday, 13 February, 2003 16:02 To: 'nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz' Subject: Re: [nznog] FW: APEC TEL IPv6 Workshop I spotted these on the ISOC site recently: Waiting for IP version 6 by Geoff Huston (http://ispcolumn.isoc.org/2003-01/Waiting.html) and Response by IPv6 Forum to "Waiting for IP version 6" by Latif Ladid and Jim Bound (http://www.isoc.org/pubs/isp/ipv6response.shtml_ _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Re: [nznog] FW: APEC TEL IPv6 Workshop
by Ewen McNeill 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

In message <C031BD7C-3EF7-11D7-B971-00039312C852(a)automagic.org>, Joe Abley writes: >On Wednesday, Feb 12, 2003, at 21:00 Canada/Eastern, Frank March wrote: >>[APEC workshop will cover] >> Issues surrounding the current standard of Internet Protocol version 4 >> (IPv4) and how it limits the number of Internet Protocol (IP) addresses >> available globally. > >Someone should tell these people that we are not running out of IPv4 >addresses any time soon They actually only talk about IPv4 limiting the number of addresses available -- which is true. There are only 2**32 of them :-) But it's not quite the point. However people outside the network-core could be forgiven for believing that there's a dire shortage of IP addresses. When only a few years ago a business connection would often have a /24 or greater address space, often one which was "portable" (in theory, but perhaps not in practice), these days plenty of business connections are given a single (gateway) IP address, and it is strongly suggested they use NAT -- even when hosting multiple servers requiring incoming connections. (In at least one instance I've seen multiple connections installed primarily "to get another IP address". When they started in on adding a few more hosting servers, and ordering their third connection "to get another IP address" I put my foot down, and they have finally applied for a /28, which will already be > 50% filled simply properly numbering the existing servers.) >and that the real pressing issue is how you make the routing system >scale (an issue which IPv6 does not attempt to address). This is the flip side to the "one address, or maybe a few more if you beg lots". You end up lots of very long prefixes. To be sure many of those couldn't care less about routing, and CIDR works well for them. But you end up with a certain percentage that have a legitimate need to do their own routing, for redundancy or otherwise, and still have fairly long prefixes. Even if they go through the (non-obvious to those outside the core networking arena) process required to get a /24, that still gives you a lot of /24s floating around to deal with routing. I tend to agree with you that by and large IPv6 will just shuffle this problem around some, and still leave basically the same issue with "how do we deal with all these routes". (The address space will be larger, and in theory will be more hierachically allocated, but there'll still be the same people, and the same portion of them will want/need to do their own routing, etc.) I'd be happy to see IPv6 deployed to get rid of some of the worst excesses of NAT I see (particularly the "traffic in to one IP address splits off to N internal servers in difficult to keep track of fashions") but other than that I don't think it's going to solve all that much by itself. Ewen

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ISDN performance
by Michael Hallager 12 Feb '03

12 Feb '03

Hello, Can anyone please inform me *From first hand experience only* what the average latency is across a Centrex Auckland BRA ISDN? Best regards, Michael Hallager michael at comsolve.net.nz

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RE: [nznog] Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week
by Frank March 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

AFAIK, yr friendly USG. The US Embassy is certainly acting as v close minder for the visit. --- Frank March Senior Specialist Adviser, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Phone (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax (+64 4) 474 2659; Mobile (+64) 21 042 9205 -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gardner [mailto:andy(a)navigator.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2003 14:45 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week At 1:50 PM +1300 2/12/03, Frank March wrote: >For those not already in the loop, Vint Cerf, one of the original developers >of TCP/IP and currently Chair of the ICANN Board is visiting NZ to speak at >the Knowledge Wave Forum in Auckland Thursday next week. He will also be >speaking at two public fora in Wellington. Who's paying for Vint's trip? Cheers, -- Andrew P. Gardner barcelona.com stolen, stmoritz.com stays. What's uniform about the UDRP? We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare? Get active: http://www.tldlobby.com _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer.

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None
by Nevil Brownlee 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

Hi again: Sorry, I failed to send the second paragraph of the announcement about Vint's Auckland talk, the one telling *where* it's happening. Here it is.. > I'm pleased to announce that Vinton Cerf will give a public lecture on "The > Internet: its future and the opportunities it presents", at the University of > Auckland campus from 6pm to 7pm on Thursday 20 February 2003. > > I have booked Library room B28 (capacity 419) for this event. I have also > booked an overflow room (with videolink) that will handle an additional 269 > people. My University is now preparing a press release. Cheers, Nevil ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Director, Technology Development Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 ITSS, The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7021 Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through University of Auckland http://www.auckland.ac.nz/

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Vint Cerf visiting NZ next week
by Frank March 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

For those not already in the loop, Vint Cerf, one of the original developers of TCP/IP and currently Chair of the ICANN Board is visiting NZ to speak at the Knowledge Wave Forum in Auckland Thursday next week. He will also be speaking at two public fora in Wellington. Monday 17 February, 5:30 pm. National Library Auditorium, Molesworth St, Wellington, "Towards and Information Society for All" Tuesday 18 February, 11:45 (for noon). US Embassy, 29 Fitzherbert St, Wellington, "E-mail, how its changed busienss and where it is going" You will need to notify the US Embassy in advance if you want to attend the Tuesday talk. I will copy the PDF file I received from the Embassy to anyone emailing me direct for further information. I understand that Vint is also going to give a public talk in Auckland later in the week but at this stage do not know the details. --- Frank March Senior Specialist Adviser, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Phone (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax (+64 4) 474 2659; Mobile (+64) 21 042 9205 http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer.

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U.S. Congress and ICANN
by Andy Linton 11 Feb '03

11 Feb '03

I won't be able to get to the talk given by Vint Cerf at the National Library next week but I think there's some questions about US policy in relation to ICANN that someone should ask him. Attached find some material about the Senate Communications Subcommittee and ICANN. It seems that the US view may be that just like Iraq and its oil the Internet belongs to them and that they have the right to remove this body as they please even though other national entities have signed up to the process. Perhaps Vint could comment? [Note the reference to root name servers and DOS attacks which make this message of operational significance! (:-)] --- [Jan 15, 2003] U.S. Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.) announced his top priorities for his chairmanship of the Senate Communications Subcommittee during the 108th legislative session. ICANN Reform STRENGTHENS AND SECURES THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE INTERNET Sen. Burns will take aim at the organization's persistent half-hearted efforts at internal reform. The lack of accountability of this quasi-governmental organization poses serious problems for American national security. The recent "denial of service" (DOS) attack on nine of the 13 Internet "root servers" in October highlights these concerns. Constitutional issues are also troubling, including whether the Commerce Department was within its rights to grant such a huge responsibility to ICANN in the first place, potentially violating the nondelegation clause [of the U.S. Constitution]. This issue demands immediate oversight. Sen. Burns will hold a hearing on ICANN Reform in the spring to address potential legislation to authorize ICANN's continued existence.

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NZNOG 2003 - Suggestions for Content
by Donald Neal 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

People, I'd be interested in receiving suggestions of subjects people would like to see covered at this July's gathering in Auckland. To me directly, please, not to the list. Offers to present are also, of course, welcome. - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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freebsd iso
by Mark Frater 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Anyone know where in NZ I can get the latest freebsd stable release ISO? nz.ftp.freebsd.org seems flakey and last time I connected, didn't have anything later than v4.5 Mark

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Achieving Protection and Security in an OnLine World - Free semin ar
by Frank March 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

Please distribute this information to anyone you think might be interested. Seminar sponsored by AOEMA and supported by Ministry of Economic Development Date & Venue: Monday 3rd March Christchurch Convention Centre Conference Room 1&2 95 Kilmore Street CHRISTCHURCH Wednesday 5th March Centennial Convention Centre Main St PALMERSTON NORTH Speakers: Michael Baker, Yuichi Tosaki, John Thackray, Tony Krzyzewski, Michael Wigley Cost: Free Register: REGISTRATIONS Please email your attendance to: Michael Baker Executive Director, AOEMA Michael.baker(a)aoema.org Or contact: Jim Higgins 04 939 2800 or 021 963 268 Copies of the full programme available by emailing frank.march(a)med.govt.nz Further information available at http://www.nzecommerce.co.nz/default.aspx?page=showevent&id=25 --- Frank March Senior Specialist Adviser, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Phone (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax (+64 4) 474 2659; Mobile (+64) 21 042 9205 http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer.

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Re: [nznog] freebsd iso
by Dan Langille 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

On 3 Feb 2003 at 18:06, "Mark Frater" <mfrater(a)quicks wrote: > On 4 Feb 2003 at 11:52, Mark Frater wrote: > > > Anyone know where in NZ I can get the latest freebsd stable release > > ISO? > > FWIW, there is a copy: > > http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.0/ I'm sorry, I misread. Take the other link. You do not want the above. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/

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Spammer: spametropolis.co.nz.
by Simon Lyall 30 Jan '03

30 Jan '03

Anyone at Xtra going to do anything about this crowd? I've already sent in two complaints to abuse(a)xtra (and got nice letters back even) and they just sent me another spam with a promise of another to come. I notice they even spam IDG: http://www.idg.net.nz/webhome.nsf/printdoc/BEA9EAEA8C0900DACC256C7B0077ACE4… I've blocked them now but I'd really prefer that Xtra was a little more.... -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz

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NZNOG 2003 - Final Vote Count
by Donald Neal 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

Three weeks ago, I asked NZNOG subscribers who expect to attend to express a preference for a conference with UniForum broadly similar to last year's on one hand, or a lower-cost gathering hosted by The University of Waikato. In counting votes, I have ignored those received from UniForum members who are not subscribed to this list. The envelope, please ... Preferring UniForum: 16 Preferring Waikato: 13 Will attend either, not worried: 6 Volunteering to help: 3 I'm inclined to conclude from this that we do not have a clear majority for either option, or more positively that we have quite a bit of interest in both. The three volunteering to help were two who favoured the UniForum option and one who would attend either. Partly for that reason, partly in the interests of getting an event under away sooner rather than later, and partly because it worked last time, I believe we should proceed with the UniForum option. It is also clear that we have significant interest in an alternative, and I believe that should be followed up, possibly for February 2004. One longer-term question would be whether 2004 could support two events, one at Waikato and another jointly with UniForum in the Wellington region. Unless I hear significant numbers of complaints soon, I'll seek to follow up who's doing what with UniForum's convenor, Roger De Salis, and those who've volunteered; and myself contact The University of Waikato with a view to working out some details for a later conference. One of my aims here is to have decisions about the conference after next made not later than during the next conference. - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Mailing List Software Migration
by Donald Neal 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

The NZNOG mailing list has run since the mid-90's (yes, it has been that long) using Majordomo list management software. The list will shortly be migrating to using the rather more current mailman v2.1 instead. The address to which mail for the list is to be sent will not change. Archive collection will continue as before, though with minor changes to the layout of the web pages generated. The process for subscribing or unsubscribing will change, and will in future use a password. These are to be generated automatically in the first case, and sent out to subscribers as the migration proceeds later today. One significant change affecting a few people is that the nznog-postonly list will cease to exist. Instead, it will be possible to subscribe an address to the main nznog list and specify that that address is not to receive mail. This is to be done automatically for the addresses now subscribed to nznog-postonly. An unfortunate result of the automatic process used is that each address will have a different initial password assigned. I suspect you'll cope. OK, Colin, take it away ... - Donald Neal List Administrator/Muggins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: [nznog] anyone else getting Welcome messages?
by Ewen McNeill 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

NOTE: Sent to nznog in the hope of stemming the tide of "meeee tooooo" posts; Please do not respond on the list. In message <3E383197.32604.79198938(a)localhost>, "Dan Langille" writes: >I just got a welcome to the list message... but I've been subscribed >for quite some time.... That would have something to do with this announcement: -=- cut here -=- From: "Donald Neal" <Donald.Neal(a)telecom.co.nz> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:57:43 +1300 Subject: Mailing List Software Migration [....] The list will shortly be migrating to using the rather more current mailman v2.1 instead [.....] These [passwords] are to be generated automatically in the first case, and sent out to subscribers as the migration proceeds later today.[....] -=- cut here -=- So receiving a welcome message is perfectly normal. If you didn't get one and didn't get this message either you should probably contact the list adminstrator....[0] Ewen [0] Yes, this is a joke.

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RE: [nznog] anyone else getting Welcome messages?
by Dan Langille 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

On 30 Jan 2003 at 14:02, Lindsay Druett wrote: > > I just got a welcome to the list message... but I've been subscribed > > for quite some time.... > > Yes you have indeed... > You have been subscribed for over ten minutes now -- according to > Mailman... Woo hoo! Thanks. You and about 8 others have told me about the message I deleted without reading. If I have no time to read them, I just delete them. I'm glad I'm not the only one to have missed it. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/

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[Fwd: anyone know who is using this address block?]
by Russell Fulton 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

I some how doubt that a six year old address @student.canterbury.ac.nz will be much use. Anyone know of a contact -- one address in this block is infected with slammer worm... Russell Whois: inetnum: 202.37.124.0 - 202.37.125.255 netname: ISHOP-NZ country: NZ descr: Internet Shop Home Networking Expt (January 1996) Internet Connected BBS (March 1996) Internet Provider (May 1996) admin_c: JT5-NZ tech_c: JT5-NZ remarks: mnt_by: MAINT-NULL changed: sandy(a)waikato.ac.nz 960109 status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE source: APNIC notify: NIC(a)WAIKATO.AC.NZ J.Tew(a)student.canterbury.ac.nz -- Russell Fulton, Computer and Network Security Officer The University of Auckland, New Zealand "It aint necessarily so" - Gershwin -- Russell Fulton, Computer and Network Security Officer The University of Auckland, New Zealand "It aint necessarily so" - Gershwin - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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CAIDA skitter in New Zealand
by Joerg Micheel 29 Jan '03

29 Jan '03

Cheers everyone, this is a request for help in the interest of research / community. For the past four years the WAND network research group at the University of Waikato has been hosting the only skitter system in the South Pacific rim. http://www.caida.org/tools/measurement/skitter/ The system measures and displays a number of important network properties on a global scale and tracks changes on short, medium and long time scales. Waikato has been the beacon on the map, making sure NZ shows up on the radar screen of the Internet (research) community. The problem in running a skitter system is with the amount of traffic generated, it can easily exceed 1 GByte per day, and with traffic charging in place, this adds up to something like NZ$50,000 per annum for us. We have been coping with a mix of external and internal funding, but those sources have finally dried out. The sad result is that we had to shut down the system last week. No backup solutions so far. This note to you to explore if any of you have an idea on alternative placements, preferably with no volume charging in place at all, or, with a nominal fee. There is little chance we can keep operating a machine here in NZ if the amount of funding required is going to be substancial. Thanks. Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: <joerg(a)nlanr.net> NLANR MNA at SDSC/UCSD Page: <joerg(a)vodafone.net.nz> The University of Waikato, CompScience Phone: +64 7 8384794 Private Bag 3105 Fax: +64 7 8585095 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: PMA, TINE and the DAG's - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Uniforum 03 Student discounts
by Matthew Lamb 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Someone mentioned a discount for students attending, anyone know anything about them / where I can find some more info? Thanks Matt Lamb NZPages.Net - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Last Call for 2U cases
by Mark Frater 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Hi List, I'm ordering 2U 19" wide by (only) 19" deep cases from Taiwan direct from manufacturer. These shallow cases are ideal for 600mm deep cabinets. Takes standard ATX moboWe have deployed both P4 and Athlon boards in these cases already and they have been fine. Here is a PDF cad drawing. http://www.quicksilver.net.nz/272-dia.pdf. Made by Comix International. $US200 for case, 400W PSU and 3xPCI Riser card. PLUS freight, gst and handling. Total cost worked out at NZ$612.88/case last time after shipping, customs charges and GST were added. This time might be slightly better with more cases and a better exchange rate. Realistically, about 3-4 weeks delivery ( ie 1 week to get deposits, 1 week for Comix to process order, 1 week for airfreight, 1 week for NZcustoms clearance. Pickup from Quicksilver Internet, Textile Centre, Kenwyn St, Parnell, or for a small fee we could arrange for a courier from here. I'd like to get a deposit of say NZ$400 per case off people before placing the order. Make out cheques to Mercury Telecommunications Ltd and send to: Attn: Mark Frater, Mercury Telecommunications Ltd P.O.Box 99856 New Market Contact me off list TODAY if you are interested. Mark Frater Quicksilver Internet ph 9160300 - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZNOG 2003 - Last Call for Votes
by Donald Neal 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Days since I asked people who expect to attend to express a preference: 19 Preferring UniForum: 10 Preferring Waikato: 8 Will attend either, not worried: 3 Volunteering to help: 2 The University of Waikato expect an attendance from them which is about five higher if the Waikato option is chosen. I don't see a clear outcome here. but if we're going to anything a decision of some sort is needed. Could I please have any further expressions of interest by noon (NZDT) on Thursday, 30 January? People who liked the idea of doing both UniForum NZ in July 2003 and Waikato in February 2004: 2 - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: NZNOG 2003 - Last Call for Votes
by Donald Neal 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Chris, When I first floated the idea of what became last year's face to face gathering, I got 22 responses. Asking people without quoting dates, prices or a programme will tend, I think, to produce less interest than a specific proposal. - Donald Neal > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Hellberg [mailto:odysseus(a)soa.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 12:50 > To: Donald Neal > Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Re: NZNOG 2003 - Last Call for Votes > > > I hope this isn't a guage of the interest for NZNOG 2003 - 23 people. > The calibre of last year's event was pretty impressive and no > doubt that this year will be just as good; I know I'm looking > forward to it. > > It would be a real shame to miss out on the best event of its > type in NZ for lack of support. I'm sure there are more out there who > have heard of IP or 2day.com-sponsored bar tabs. > > Hopefully I got enough superlatives in ;) > > Cheers, > > Chris > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[OT] 19" Coms Rack Cabinet...
by Dan Clark 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Hi all, Sorry for the OT but would anyone out there have any spare 19" Coms Rack Cabinets surplus/for sale? Especially in the Dunedin area. We are in need of a 1/2 height (24U ish). Please contact off list. Kind Regards, Dan Clark Network Manager Scarfies.Net Ltd

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worldwide DDOS (sql server fun)
by Joe Abley 25 Jan '03

25 Jan '03

http://www.nextgenss.com/advisories/mssql-udp.txt Time to start applying some filters at your edges. This has taken some big networks off the air in the US (and at least one in NZ). term deny-dos { from { packet-length 404; protocol udp; destination-port 1434; } then { count codered-4; discard; } } term allow-rest { then accept; } - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: worldwide DDOS (sql server fun)
by Ewen McNeill 25 Jan '03

25 Jan '03

In message <005701c2c4b1$165b1a80$0c01a8c0(a)saarinen.org>, "Juha Saarinen" writes: >Joe Abley <jabley(a)automagic.org> wrote: >> http://www.nextgenss.com/advisories/mssql-udp.txt > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2693925.stm >Although I remain dubious about this claim: >"Unlike viruses, the worm exists only in memory, so it cannot be detected by >traditional anti-virus scanners." I'm not sure which bit you're dubious about: the "only in memory" or the "cannot be detected by traditional anti-virus scanners". The only in memory has been identified by various people starting to disassemble it. Various useful links (that have come through Bugtraq): >From "Jay D. Dyson" <jdyson(a)treachery.net>: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/370308 http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/399260 http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/484891 >From H D Moore <sflist(a)digitaloffense.net>: http://www.digitaloffense.net/worms/mssql_udp_worm/ (which contains some disassembly screen shots, and a unannotated disassembly) >From cstone <cstone(a)pobox.com> http://www.boredom.org/~cstone/worm-annotated.txt (which contains an annotated disassembly) >From what I can tell it's just a worm, spreading itself as fast as it can. Presumably the vulnerable hosts thus identified are then prime targets for something else to come in as a second wave. There's nothing in the annotated disassembly that indicates writing/sending data anywhere other than the Internet, hence "only in memory". Various people report that the infection can be cleared by stopping SQL server and/or rebooting -- with the obvious caveat that if it's not disconnected/firewalled from possible sources, it'll be reinfected quickly. As for "cannot be detected by traditional anti-virus scanners", that's probably a fall out of not writing anything to disk (which could be scanned), and memory protection in modern OS (which means the "memory scan" phase of DOS-based virus scanners is limited to the memory space the anti virus scanner is running in, without kernel support). Presumably a debug API or similar could be used to scan all memory, but I don't recall seeing that type of technique in (m)any anti-virus programs. Ewen - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: 2LD Review for *.nz ?
by Frank March 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Although this matter is off-topic for this list, it might pay for me to clarify matters here. InternetNZ has a clearly laid out set of procedures for reviewing policies relating to .nz administration - please see the Domain Name Commissioners website at http://www.dnc.org.nz/ for more information. Included in these is the process for determining and reviewing policies and procedures. Briefly the review process requires the establishment of a review committee whose task it is, inter alia, to carry out a process of wide public consultation. In this case, the review committee composition has been discussed with the InternetNZ Council who have delegated final membership determination to the .nz Oversight Committee. It should be noted that the notice (and accompanying press release) went out on 13 December which is, even by the relaxed NZ standards at this time of the year, a reasonable time before Christmas/New Year. The review terms of reference have yet to be decided but will be wide (see http://www.dnc.org.nz/story/30064-35-1.html) The public consultation, apart from online discussions, will involve at least one forum session of some type, probably co-incident with a broader discussion of other InternetNZ matters of public interest, to be organised late in the first half of this year. Unfortunately, I cannot be more specific about dates and location as this is a matter for the InternetNZ Council and the new Executive Director to sort out. Best wishes, Frank March Chair, .nz Oversight Committee --- Frank March Senior Specialist Adviser, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, New Zealand Phone (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax (+64 4) 474 2659; Mobile (+64) 21 042 9205 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Brislen [mailto:Paul_Brislen(a)idg.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 13:26 To: Mark Foster Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: 2LD Review for *.nz ? I would be interested to hear from anyone who has applied as well - I thought the nomination process was a bit quick, especially with the Christmas/New Year/Holiday of your choice season smack in the middle of it. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog http://www.govt.nz - connecting you to New Zealand central & local government services Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Economic Development. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: 2LD Review for *.nz ?
by Paul Brislen 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

Sadly, it's too late - nominations/applications closed first week of January... Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net>@list.waikato.ac.nz on 23/01/2003 12:03:11 Sent by: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz cc: Subject: 2LD Review for *.nz ? http://www.idg.co.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/E021027AAA37CF2DCC256CB6000704F1!open… (Apologies for any offtopicness, but I know there will be people here very interested in this...) Anyone going to volunteer? - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: 2LD Review for *.nz ?
by Paul Brislen 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has applied as well - I thought the nomination process was a bit quick, especially with the Christmas/New Year/Holiday of your choice season smack in the middle of it. Let me know off list if you like - I'm as far off topic as I like to get. Cheers, Paul PS - yes, I'm the reporter for IDGNet. Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> on 23/01/2003 13:36:03 To: "Paul Brislen" <Paul_Brislen(a)idg.co.nz> cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: 2LD Review for *.nz ? "The nominations for interest in being involved have closed and InternetNZ's oversight committee will meet in early February to select the four other participants." Oops.. Maybe ill rephrase. Anyone involved with NZNOG involved with this? The implications will impact alot of us here, I imagine. Thanks Paul, Mark. At 11:53 23/01/2003 +1300, Paul Brislen wrote: >Sadly, it's too late - nominations/applications closed first week of >January... - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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2LD Review for *.nz ?
by Mark Foster 22 Jan '03

22 Jan '03

http://www.idg.co.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/E021027AAA37CF2DCC256CB6000704F1!open… (Apologies for any offtopicness, but I know there will be people here very interested in this...) Anyone going to volunteer? - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The green green grass of home...
by Dean Pemberton 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

Hi all; I've been overseas for almost 5 years now, and it's time to come back home to New Zealand. I do however need a job. I've spoken to my current employer about this of course. While they acknowledge that it is technically possible for me to get a transfer to NZ, they can not see it happening in the near future. This is unfortunate, but does nothing to dampen my desire to return home. SO; If anyone out there has a position they need filled, or know of someone else who does, then can you drop me a line. My preference is for permanent work in Wellington, but I'm also happy to consider contract work and other locations. I'm also open to negotiation regarding salary, so don't worry about that to begin with. I'm basically keeping an open mind. So if you have something pass it on. I have a current CV at http://deanpemberton.com/cv/ Feel free to pass it along to anyone who might be interested. Thanks Dean - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Talk about 'Network Measurements at Sprint, AS 1239'
by Nevil Brownlee 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

Hi Jamie: > Have you come across a similar project by RIPE? > http://www.ripe.net/test-traffic/ > > Are the two trying to achieve the same objectives with different approaches > in terms of scale and distribution? (Though to me RIPE has the edge as is > appears to measure IPDV) Yes. RIPE test traffic provides data about Internet links between their 'test boxes;' RIPE NCC offer it as a (charged for) service to ISPs who are RIPE members. I agree, it's an interesting project - their web pages http://www.ripe.net/ttm/index.html are well worth a look. The Sprint work is concerned with measuring and understanding the way traffic behaves in their backbone, and how that information can be used to imnprove backbone behaviour, for example by using it to tune IS-IS link weights. > Nevertheless, some very interesting statistical information found at > http://ipmon.sprint.com Cheers, Nevil ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Director, Technology Development Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 ITSS, The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7021 Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through University of Auckland http://www.auckland.ac.nz/ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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more on the PDP-11
by Richard Naylor 21 Jan '03

21 Jan '03

I should have mentioned its not small. The basic 2 disk machine is a 1.2m rack. I normally stack the 3rd disk and floppy on top, making a 5 foot rack. In my box of bits there maybe some MicroVax cpus as well. Theres also a few backplanes, so you can probably build a 2nd or 3rd machine. There is also a real DEC VT100 And for those of you who think "in car computers" (&MP3 players) are cool, I had an in car PDP-11 probably before you were born. rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Anyone looking to 2U cases ?
by Mark Frater 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Hi List, I've tried getting 2U 19" wide by (only) 19" deep cases from Procase, but they don't have any and can't get them. Unless anyone knows a NZ source for these, I am intending to get some from Taiwan. US$200 including 400W PSU. Takes standard ATX mobo, comes with 3PCI riser card. We have some units in production already and they have been fine. Contact me off list if you are interested and we can split the shipping and import charges. Mark Frater Quicksilver Internet ph 9160300 - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Reporting NZNOG activities at APRICOT
by Philip Smith 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

Hi, Apologies for non-operational content, but I was wondering if anyone from New Zealand would be going to APRICOT 2003 in Taipei (www.apricot2003.net) If you don't already know, APRICOT is the Asia Pacific's annual Internet Operations conference, tutorial and workshop event; it is also hosts APNIC's open policy meeting, as well as the meetings of many other AP internet related organisations. I'm co-chair of APOPS (www.apops.net) the AP region's operator mailing list (intended to work along the same lines as NANOG, AfNOG, and EOF). The APOPS meeting will be held as part of APRICOT on Wednesday 26th, and I think it would be great if someone from the New Zealand Internet community could give a short (max 15 minutes) presentation on local Internet activities. I'm not looking for anything fantastically detailed, just a general FYI style overview of what's going on. If anyone is interested in helping with this, and is going to APRICOT, please let me know. thanks a lot! philip -- - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: [Xinqu] Re: [was-Xinqu] Re: more on the PDP-11
by Richard Naylor 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

At 02:53 p.m. 20/01/2003 +1300, Bruce Hoult wrote: I don't know why anyone would think that it was kosmos. Kosmos quite clearly announced itself as VAX/VMS when you logged in and *that* isn't going to run on a PDP-11. agreed <sigh> >You didn't answer my questions about what sort of physical ethernet >interface it has (thick or thin), whether it talks TCP/IP, or whether >you've got a Unix for it. And I'll add to that a question about RSTS... it has AUI. the real ethernet. Sorry no *ix for it, nor RSTS. I mainly did real time stuff and that meant RSX or RT-11 (which is what MS-DOS was modelled on, not to confuse with the IBM-360-DOS, or the many other DOS's out there in those days. Add TSX to RT-11 and you have a good clone of RSTS. It has a similar multi login thingy per terminal like Linux . Oh theres more... DRV-11 - parallel interface - if you like building stuff or doing nuclear device testing Analog devices isolated input A/D converter several serial devices (synch) several serial devices (asynch) with modem controls. And no, I'm not parting with my industrial-11 (aka PDP-11/05) front panel with the flashing lights. there were only two of those in NZ if that. rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: [Xinqu] Re: more on the PDP-11
by Richard Naylor 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

At 10:41 a.m. 20/01/2003 +1300, Lin Nah wrote: >IS this machine one of those used for the wcc freenet? NO. its my own private family PDP-11 >I seem to remember some talk about kosmos being given to someone >who would appreciate it etc but I could be mistaken Sorry - I wasn't in WCC IT when Kosmos was decomm'd rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: more on the PDP-11
by Richard Naylor 19 Jan '03

19 Jan '03

At 10:41 a.m. 20/01/2003 +1300, Lin Nah wrote: >IS this machine one of those used for the wcc freenet? > >I seem to remember some talk about kosmos being given to someone >who would appreciate it etc but I could be mistaken No - this is my own home machine. Kosmos was actually 3 different machines. The first was a Vax 750 from the MED (We merged MED and WCC data centers - thats when the fiber got started), the second was a MicroVaxII (later a small cluster) and finally a MicroVax 3400. While I closed CityNet down, I didn't dispose of the gear, I was working in Economic Development by then and it wasn't my issue. I know it stayed active for some time as it was the main dial in box for WCC staff rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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OT: Surplus equipment available
by Richard Naylor 18 Jan '03

18 Jan '03

Howdy all, I have some mature equipment available. 1x PDP 11/73 (also 11/23 and 11/03 processors) 4 MB RAM (i think - lots of other modules) 8 serial ports (DLV-11J - no modem controls) 2x 8 inch floppy RX-01 (128k I think) 3x RL01 Removable disk drives (5MB each) (lots of cartridges/packs) 1x DEQNA ethernet lotsa other modules, including a unibus tester and Q-bus stalk card (for scoping cards) I also have a Tape drive controller and a card reader, altho VUW currently have the card reader. It currently runs RT-11/TSX and I also have copies of RSX-11M V3.2 or V4. There is word processing (Lex-11) Fortran and Basic and probably others I've forgotten. An old DECUS database manager. And yes it has games like Space Invaders and Adventure (read "Soul of a New MAchine by Tracey Kidder") My kids grew up with it, so theres a classy menu system that asks quiz questions everytime you select something, especially the games. I think theres my old UUCP mail system on it as well as a DECUS one that doesn't network. Its all original DEC kit complete with service manuals and circuit diagrams and diagnostic progs. I used to work for a DEC OEM, so its been well looked after. Any interest ? rich - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZNOG 2003 - Vote Count So Far
by Donald Neal 16 Jan '03

16 Jan '03

Days since I asked people who expect to attend to express a preference: 8 Preferring UniForum: 8 Preferring Waikato: 8 Will attend either, not worried: 2 Volunteering to help: 1 The University of Waikato expect an attendance from them which is about five higher if the Waikato option is chosen. I don't see a clear outcome here. I think I'll go on holiday. Then again, what if we did both - UniForum NZ in July 2003 and Waikato in February 2004? - Donald Neal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fwd: Message Stopped by: Junk Mail Inbound
by Simon Blake 15 Jan '03

15 Jan '03

Woohoo! A new low, I'm a junkmailer :-). Preemptive apology for prior message being off charter, I guess I won't hold my breath for applications from Safecom users. Cheers Si ----- Forwarded message from admin(a)safecom.co.nz ----- From: admin(a)safecom.co.nz To: simon(a)citylink.co.nz CC: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:24:37 +1300 Subject: Message Stopped by: Junk Mail Inbound The Safecom SMTP Relay has quarantined this email due to the triggering of the Junk Mail policy. The email has been forwarded to the Mail Administrator of the intended recipients company. This Mail Administrator will forward the mail to the recipient should it be deemed as legitimate email i.e not Chainmail, Virus Hoax or Jokes. Message: BB0056338e.00000001.mml From: simon(a)citylink.co.nz To: <deleted>@hpac.govt.nz Subject: Re: NZNOG 2003 This is an automated response. Do not reply to this message. If you have any further questions please contact the intended recipient to confirm whether they received the email. ----- End forwarded message ----- - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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