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23 September
by Richard Naylor 22 Sep '08

22 Sep '08

Tomorrow is 23 September and TVNZ 7 and InternetNZ have their ICT Debate scheduled to start at around 9pm, after the news. While you wait for this exciting event to start, you can watch the Tawa Schools Music Festival, live from the Michael Fowler Center in Wellington. http://www.r2.co.nz/20080923 starting at 7:30pm and running for around 2 hours. On 4 Oct 1994, our first public webcast, was the Tawa Schools Music Festival, so the webcast tomorrow is for us a trip down memory lane. Its also a fun event. You can see the 1994 event at http://www.r2.co.nz/19941004 In 1994, the MFC was connected to the Internet by fiber via WCC, which was connected to VUW by 2Mbps microwave. The concert webcast had 16 viewers in 12 countries. It impressed then Mayor Fran Wilde so much that she wrote about it in her weekly column in the Evening Post. So maybe a question for the politicians in the debate is - why after 14 years are people still debating whether we need fiber ? Why is it all taking so long ? But maybe its just better to drink beer and enjoy the concert. Cheers - Richard

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MTUs on internet transit and peering
by Alastair Johnson 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

Hi, I was wondering if anyone has seen a general trend to supporting >1500B MTUs on Internet transit and peering sessions? I recall from years ago that AGC/ANC/PacNet supported interface-default MTUs, meaning that ATM connected customers had 4470B MTU. Obviously these days with most people running GE or XE in their networks with MPLS and 802.1Q you are looking at networks capable internally of jumbograms, but is anyone running this across network boundaries? Are there any plans for the NZ IXs to be jumbo-capable? I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who is jumbo-enabled on their transit connections, and particularly interested in hearing if they are seeing any significant number of packets that are >1500B on the Internet. aj

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Auckland IPv6 Internet Exchange
by Andy Linton 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

We've been working on changes to the IPv6 exchange so that we have a process for IPv6 that is similar to that for IPv4. There's a new web page at http://v6ix.nzix.net/ape6/ with more info. For those who are current peers (http://v6ix.nzix.net/ape6/peers.html) you'll be able to request changes in the same way as you can for IPv4 using this page http://v6ix.nzix.net/cgi-bin/ape6/ChangeRoutes.cgi You'll also be able to see what's going on at the Looking Glass at http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi?router=rs1-v6.ape.net.nz and http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi?router=rs2-v6.ape.net.nz We'll be adding a second IPv6 route server rs2-v6.ape.net.nz very shortly. Changes to IPv6 route announcements will come to the nznog list as they currently do for IPv4. If you're not already peering with IPv6 see the link to the application form at http://v6ix.nzix.net/ape6/

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: aut-num: AS23755 as-name: NZRR-AS23755 descr: CityLink descr: DPE peering at '218.100.23.3' descr: see Citylink RT job #1927 descr: WIX peering at '202.7.0.7' descr: see Citylink RT job #4541 descr: APE peering at '192.203.154.5' descr: see Citylink RT job #4541 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS24384 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24384 announce AS23755 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23755 import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS23755 import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS23755 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060222 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: aut-num: AS23755 as-name: NZRR-AS23755 descr: CityLink remarks: DPE peering at '218.100.23.3' remarks: see Citylink RT job #1927 remarks: WIX peering at '202.7.0.7' remarks: see Citylink RT job #4541 remarks: APE peering at '192.203.154.5' remarks: see Citylink RT job #4541 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS24384 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24384 announce AS23755 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23755 import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS23755 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- NEW OBJECT CREATION: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES6:AS24021 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by Tui Gateway - AS24021 mp-members: 2402:6000:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64, 2406:E000:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: nward(a)daork.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 source: NZRR --- NEW OBJECT CREATION: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES6:AS17435 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by WorldxChange - AS17435 mp-members: 2001:E20:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: gsmith(a)wxc.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080911 changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 source: NZRR --- NEW OBJECT CREATION: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES6:AS18119 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by LinuxNet - AS18119 mp-members: 2001:4428:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: lincoln(a)acsdata.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080911 changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 source: NZRR --- NEW OBJECT CREATION: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES6:AS4770 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by ICONZ - AS4770 mp-members: 2001:F50:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64, 2405:6000:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: john.johnston(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080911 changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 source: NZRR --- NEW OBJECT CREATION: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES6:AS24005 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by SafeNZ - AS24005 mp-members: 2407:1000:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: tonyw(a)safenz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 source: NZRR --- NEW OBJECT CREATION: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES6:AS23710 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by ISC - F Root - AS23710 mp-members: 2001:500:2f::/48 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: tonyw(a)safenz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 source: NZRR --- NEW OBJECT CREATION: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES6:AS9896 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by SDS-Net - AS9896 mp-members: 2001:4403:DEAD:0:0:0:0:0/48^48-64 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: david.robb(a)team.telstraclear.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 source: NZRR --- NEW OBJECT CREATION: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES6:AS23754 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by CityLink - AS23754 mp-members: 2001:4410:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64 mp-members: 2001:470:1f01:3795::/64 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080922 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [nznog] Net outage last night?
by Dave Green 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

Justin Cook wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Dave Green <dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz > <mailto:dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz>> wrote: > > Simon Lyall wrote: > > >Seriously, we've had people complaining about Orcon continuously for > >months here, if it's bad enough then there must be a few other > companies > >willing to take your money. Obviously it's not putting any > pressure on > >Orcon to fix it. > > > > > FWIW ... I use a supposedly 1Mbps Orcon sattelite service and, using > Youtube as my download test, find I can get .7-1.5Mbps sustained > download rates early morning ~4am-7am but only 200-300kbps most > evenings. I've checked with consumerspeedtest.org.nz > <http://consumerspeedtest.org.nz> at times when the > download is really slow and it tells me that I still have ~1Mpbs > download rate so not sure where the bottleneck is. Given that Orcon or > others seem to be pushing cheap sattelite service out to rural areas I > don't expect performance to improve any time soon. > > Dave > > > Simon obviously outlined the proper steps to take here, but if you're > going to ghettotest it, try using speedtest.net > <http://speedtest.net>. At least then you can try testing against > remote locations. Yes, tried that. Remote speedtest locations give similar poor results 200-300kbps, while consumer gives ~1Mbps measured at the same time of day. I'd be interested to know where the consumer test is run from, it uses Ookla as do many of the other test sites and I don't know if Ookla hosts the tests or provides an app to be used by the test provider. Dave

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Hamilton Internet Exchange
by Andy Linton 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

We've been working with Velocity Networks (http://www.velocitynetworks.co.nz/) to provide a peering exchange in Hamilton. They provide the network infrastructure and CityLink handles the management of the route servers. There's a new web page at http://nzix.net/hix/ with more info. At present a couple of people have signed up - see http://nzix.net/hix/peers.html You'll also be able to see what's going on at the Looking Glass at http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi?router=rs1.hix.nzix.net and http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi?router=rs2.hix.nzix.net

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Some commentary on network neutrality.
by Nicholas Lee 20 Sep '08

20 Sep '08

Some of the commentary on network neutrality. The same arguments apply equally well to neutral peering. Given government fiber investment might be an issue promises for the forthcoming election, it good be to informed. http://angry-economist.russnelson.com/network-neutrality-4.html "Price differentiation, and indeed, service differentiation only makes sense in a market with choices."

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Kingston st space available
by Peter Mott 19 Sep '08

19 Sep '08

If anybody is looking for rack space with or without Internet transit (including APE) in Citylink's Kingston St data centre, please email me off list. regards Peter Mott Swizzle | Wholesale Hosted Servers +64 21 279 4995 -/-

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Joe Stewart is out of the office until 22 september2008
by Joe.Stewart＠dia.govt.nz 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

I will be out of the office starting 19/09/2008 and will not return until 22/09/2008. Please call Karmyn on 04 494 0628, she will assist you. Regards joe I will be viewing my emails. Thanks Joe stewart ==== CAUTION: This email message and any attachments contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this message or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error please notify us immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Thank you. ====

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Re: [nznog] Net outage last night?
by Dave Green 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

Barry Murphy wrote: > Hi, > > >> Yes, tried that. Remote speedtest locations give similar poor results >> 200-300kbps, while consumer gives ~1Mbps measured at the same time of >> day. I'd be interested to know where the consumer test is run from, it >> uses Ookla as do many of the other test sites and I don't know if Ookla >> hosts the tests or provides an app to be used by the test provider. >> > > <friday rant> > Yes they host the files at the provider, however that aside, I'm not too > concerned about DSL or satalite connections, I'm talking about a server > sitting in their data center connected over ethernet, so nothing between > (satalites, dslams, switches) that could be causing the bottleneck. Through > these residential mediums one would pay around $1 a GB, we however pay > about $4 per GB for business grade bandwidth, this is my rant. > > Yes, I was digressing somewhere loosely on topic. Dave <returns to lurking in the shadows of the ghetto>

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Wellington IPv6 Internet Exchange
by Andy Linton 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

We've been working on changes to the IPv6 exchange so that we have a process for IPv6 that is similar to that for IPv4. There's a new web page at http://v6ix.nzix.net/wix6/ with more info. For those who are current peers (http://v6ix.nzix.net/wix6/peers.html) you'll be able to request changes in the same way as you can for IPv4 using this page http://v6ix.nzix.net/cgi-bin/wix6/ChangeRoutes.cgi You'll also be able to see what's going on at the Looking Glass at http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi?router=rs1-v6.wix.net.nz and http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi?router=rs2-v6.wix.net.nz We've added a second IPv6 route server rs2-v6.wix.net.nz (202.7.0.8) and anyone who has an existing peering session with rs1-v6 should set that second session up soon. You'll also be able to see what's going on at the Looking Glass at http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi?router=rs1-v6.wix.net.nz and http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi?router=rs2-v6.wix.net.nz Changes to IPv6 route announcements will come to the nznog list as they currently do for IPv4. Similar changes for the APE6 exchange will follow soon. If you're not already peering with IPv6 see the link to the application form at http://v6ix.nzix.net/wix6/

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Net outage last night?
by Chris Hodgetts 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

Good Morning, At approx. 2:30am on 4th September 2008 we experienced a very odd outage, that Orcon support knows nothing about. Just wanted to see if anyone else experienced a similar issue. I, who live north of the bridge, could get to the orcon data centre, but could not get to our queen street office. Other admin who lives south of the bridge could get to queen street office, but not to the datacentre. Unsure if this only effected Orcon or other providers as well. Be good to hear others experiences, or even an explanation if someone has one. Thanks, and kind regards.

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Interest in Sysadmin event at NZNOG 09 ?
by Simon Lyall 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

As in previous years we [1] are thinking about having a Sysadmin event on one of the streamed days before the main NZNOG 09 days. This post is to gauge interest in this. Could you please email me directly (not the list): 1. If you would probably attended 2. Things you could talk about? 3. Specific content you would like to see? 4. If you have other comments? [1] - Andrew, Ewen and me. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS45279:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: Route set advertised to AS45279 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: neil.fenemor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080918 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS45279:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS45279 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: neil.fenemor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080918 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Remote monitoring and alerts to email/txt
by Paul Adshead 16 Sep '08

16 Sep '08

Just wondering if any users are aware of, or offer, regular remote monitoring services (- e.g. ping etc) to a specified host(s), then alerting of non-communication, to email/txt?Payment in beer/$$s is an option. Replies off-list are fine. Thanks, Paul.

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Optus NOC
by Bill Walker 16 Sep '08

16 Sep '08

Does anyone have a contact number for the Optus NOC? Have emailed them and tried normal support number, but I'm not getting anywhere fast. Google is failing me too :( Cheers, Bill -- Bill Walker Senior Network Engineer Snap Internet Limited

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ICT Ministers Debate - Tuesday 23 September
by Keith Davidson 16 Sep '08

16 Sep '08

All, Pardon the slight intrusion. InternetNZ and TVNZ7 are running an ICT Ministers Election Debate on Tuesday 23 September, for information see www.debate.net.nz There are remaining spaces available in the studio audience at Avalon. If you would like to be in the studio then let Richard Wood from InternetNZ (richard at internetnz.net.nz) know as soon as possible. If you are going to be at home (or at work) that evening then be sure to join in the streamed video and IRC chat accessible through the website. Participation will allow for the real-time firming up of questions to be put to the Ministers during this debate. Many from the NZNOG community participated in the INZ debate leading up to the last general election, and I hope many more can participate this time. To keep on topic, there will be beer at Avalon for the studio audience (hosted by TVNZ) Cheers Keith Davidson Executive Director - InternetNZ

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APE
by James Spenceley 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

Hi Guys, Can someone tell me how many participants are connected to APE ? Thanks, -- James

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IPv6 Penetration Survey: Seeking global input
by Sunny 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

________________________________________________________________________ IPv6 Penetration Survey: Seeking global input ________________________________________________________________________ The American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN), in cooperation with the Cooperative Association for Internet Data Analysis (CAIDA), is conducting a new survey to gather data regarding current and future use of IPv6. We have expanded the scope of the survey to seek IPv6 penetration data from around the world. We cordially invite and encourage all organizations in the AfriNIC, APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, and RIPE NCC regions to participate in the survey so we can establish a comprehensive view of present IPv6 penetration and future plans for IPv6 deployment. The survey will open on 8 September and remain available until 17:00 EDT on 1 October. The results of the survey will be presented and discussed at the ARIN XXII Public Policy and Members Meeting to be held in Los Angeles, CA, 15-17 October 2008. Additionally, the summary results will be shared with all the RIRs for further distribution within their respective regions. The survey data will support ongoing research. The survey is composed of 22 questions that can be answered in a few minutes. This is a secure survey and all data will be presented in summary form only, and kept confidential between ARIN and CAIDA. When you complete the survey you will be entered in a drawing for prizes, one raffle per RIR region. You must provide your contact information to win. Please take a few moments to complete the survey located at: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=loMM8qu18yFoKyi0rTUpQg_3d_3d Regards, Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9338 descr: Route set for AS9338 members: 192.122.171.0/24, 210.55.131.0/24 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20031030 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9338 descr: advertised to AS9439 by National Library of New Zealand - ASAS9338 members: 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: networks(a)natlib.govt.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080916 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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ICT Debate
by Richard Naylor 14 Sep '08

14 Sep '08

Hi Folks, I'm helping InternetNZ with the arrangements for their ICT debate next week. They'd like a few folks from outside the bigger cities to ask questions - sort of live. How it works is that you Skype me, using a webcam. I record the call to tape and the tape gets played at the appropriate time. Hopefully you get your question answered. So if anyone from outside of AKL, WLG CHC etc is interested, please drop me an email and we can arrange a time. If needed I can supply a few questions...... Tks - Richard

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 14 Sep '08

14 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES6:AS23754 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by CityLink - AS23754 mp-members: 2001:4410:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080911 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES6:AS23754 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by CityLink - AS23754 mp-members: 2001:4410:0:0:0:0:0:0/32^32-64 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080915 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Backhaul to New Plymouth
by Craig Spiers 14 Sep '08

14 Sep '08

Hi Guys, Anyone know of any providers with backhaul between Auckland and new Plymouth? Cheers

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Sep '08

11 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080905 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080912 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 11 Sep '08

11 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080905 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080912 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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IP assignment to end users
by Nathan Ward 11 Sep '08

11 Sep '08

Hi all, If you have customers connected to you and you are doing IP address assignment with IPCP (ie. over PPP), or with DHCP, can you please let me know how your network does it? I'm especially interested in whether you have local address pools on access routers, or if you have centrally managed address pools and then inject IPv4 /32 routes in to your IGP, or a combination of the two (ie. dynamic customers on local pools, static customers on RADIUSed addresses). Also please let me know if you have a single LNS/NAS, or multiple, if they exist in multiple cities, etc. We had some interesting discussion the other day in the Auckland IPv6 workshop, and I wanted to get some background info to feed recommendations I'm putting in to a public 'How to do IPv6 to ADSL/ etc. subscribers' document I'm thinking of doing, with a focus on the NZ last mile environment. Offlist replies preferable. -- Nathan Ward

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: aut-num: AS23754 as-name: NZRR-AS23754 descr: CityLink descr: WIX peering at '202.7.0.32' descr: see Citylink RT job #7338 descr: WIX peering at '202.7.0.34' descr: see Citylink RT job #6072 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS23754 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23754 import: from AS24385 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385 announce AS23754 import: from AS7657 accept {0.0.0.0/0} export: to AS7657 announce AS23754 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23754 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23754 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070402 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: aut-num: AS23754 as-name: NZRR-AS23754 descr: CityLink remarks: WIX peering at '202.7.0.32' remarks: see Citylink RT job #7338 remarks: WIX peering at '202.7.0.34' remarks: see Citylink RT job #6072 remarks: WIX6 peering at '2001:7fa:3:ca07::6' remarks: see Citylink RT job #10000 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS23754 import: from AS9439 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9439 announce AS23754 import: from AS24385 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS24385 announce AS23754 import: from AS7657 accept {0.0.0.0/0} export: to AS7657 announce AS23754 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: asjl(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080911 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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New (2-byte) ASN Allocation for RIPE NCC
by Leo Vegoda 09 Sep '08

09 Sep '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is to confirm that the IANA has allocated one 2-byte ASN block to the RIPE NCC: 48128-49151 Assigned by RIPE NCC whois.ripe.net 2008-09-09 A note of the allocation has been made at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.xml http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.xhtml http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.txt Thank you and best regards, Leo Vegoda leo.vegoda(a)icann.org ******************************************* Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 Marina del Rey, CA 90292 Phone: +1-310-823-9358 Fax: +1-310-823-8649 ******************************************* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIx9suvBLymJnAzRwRAgnkAKDDxJCilYy0aErDQtQQFEcsCKG/QwCgi+Ao 029EI3Ful4LKPXMJEUGKs3g= =7EeD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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World Exchange unreachable
by Peter Mott 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

Looks like xnet.co.nz is unreachable via IP (which includes their phones). Is there anybody nearby who can knock on the door and offer beer to turn their stuff back on? I am thinking NZNOG needs to incorporate, mount a challenge for .nz and use the income to fund an ISP that we call all own. One that stays running even on Father's day. regards Peter Mott Swizzle | Wholesale Hosted Servers Tel. +64 21 279 4995 -/-

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 203.119.56.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080903 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080905 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 203.119.56.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080903 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080905 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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IPv6 route servers at WIX
by Andy Linton 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

I'm in the process of automating the configuration of the IPv6 route servers at the WIX. Currently those who peer are only peering with one server, rs1-v6.wix.net.nz. I've added a second server, rs2-v6.wix.net.nz, and those who currently peer with the existing server have been added to the config of that. If you are an existing peer can you connect to the other server so that we can test our autobuilt config for it please. You can see a looking glass for that server at: http://nzix.net/cgi-bin/lg.cgi?protocol=IPv6&router=rs2-v6.wix.net.nz Once we've got this process refined we'll be happy to take more peers. (:-) We'll also roll out similar changes to the APE.

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Re: [nznog] 6to4 on the APE
by Richard Hulse 03 Sep '08

03 Sep '08

With all this talk about IPV6, I was wondering if there is any interest in having some content servers in the V6 space? Richard Radio NZ

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6to4 on the APE
by Jasper Bryant-Greene 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

As those of you who read the NZRR database notifications (or am I the only one?) will have noticed, we've updated filters with the intent to advertise the 6to4 prefix (192.88.99.0/24) on the APE shortly. This will put the closest 6to4 server for NZers on peering ISPs in Auckland, as opposed to Chicago (the current closest in all the tests I did, anyway). I'm sure many people will be interested in the level of traffic we receive, and the nature of that traffic, so I will be doing some analysis and will post details after it's been live a while. At this stage it looks like we will be announcing the prefix some time between now and Wednesday. Cheers, -- Jasper Bryant-Greene Network Engineer, Unleash p: +64 21 129 9458 e: jasper(a)unleash.co.nz w: http://www.unleash.co.nz/

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 203.119.56.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080812 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 203.119.56.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080903 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 203.119.56.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080812 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.160.116.0/22^22-29, 202.124.106.0/23^23-29, 202.160.114.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 124.248.140.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 203.119.56.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080903 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Air New Zealand / ECN
by Daniel Lawson 01 Sep '08

01 Sep '08

Hi, I'm seeing TCP ECN issues on the final hop to www.airnewzealand.co.nz. If there's someone from Air NZ on this list, you might want to look into it. I can provide traceroute / testing information if required. As an aside, I thought the "some routers break packets with ECN enabled" bug went away ages ago. Is anyone else seeing ECN related brokenness, or is it now SOP to disable ECN and leave it off? Daniel

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DNS Cache Poisoning
by Andy Linton 01 Sep '08

01 Sep '08

At the APNIC meeting in Christchurch last week Sam Sargeant gave a nice talk on this. See http://www.apnic.net/meetings/26/program/apops/ for his slides. Leo Vegoda from ICANN pointed to this tool: http://recursive.iana.org/ which would be an interesting one for service providers to point out to their customers (unless of course they run the DNS for them and their servers are not right). A number of organisations in New Zealand have still not upgraded their software and many more are running servers that are recursive and authoritive at the same time. Time to get with the program!

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. It consists of the subscribers to this mailing list. The group is intended to facilitate discussion among operators of networks in New Zealand on matters relevant to network operators as described in the list's Acceptable Use Policy. That policy appears later in this posting. Conference We hold New Zealand's only technical networking conference. Our next conference is to be hosted by FX Networks in Auckland on 28-30 January 2009. See http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=4 for details of conferences from 2004 to 2008. Other Meetings See http://thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland or Wellington (or Hamilton?) Operators' Contact List See http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=6 for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.nzix.net/ for details of exchanges in operation. About This Mailing List This list has between 900 and 1000 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of APN Online, Citylink, and The University of Waikato. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ . Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins -- Donald Neal | "Careful design and strict discipline are Research Officer | necessary to prevent this sort of mess WAND | from escaping the development laboratory The University of Waikato | and infesting the production environment." | - D. Russell

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS38477 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by Unleash Connection 1 - AS38477 members: 116.90.128.0/21^21-29, 202.6.116.0/23^23-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: jasper(a)unleash.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080428 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS38477 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Unleash - AS38477 members: 116.90.128.0/21^21-29, 202.6.116.0/23^23-29, 192.88.99.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: jasper(a)unleash.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080901 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Xtra and port 110
by Don Stokes 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

We just had a customer on the phone unable to connect to our POP3 server from an Xtra DSL address; pop3s (995) and SMTP submission (587) worked fine, but no port 110 packets arrived at all. A quick squiz at the logs suggest that there has been rather less port 110 activity from Telecom DSL addresses than I would expect, but I don't have a lot of data. Is something going on? -- don

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Intl transit providers
by Nathan Ward 30 Aug '08

30 Aug '08

This is not an RFP. Who transits packets over southern cross? - Asia Netcom - AS703 (I don't know what to call them, MCI/UUNet/Verizon/etc.) - Telecom NZ Global Gateway - Reach (?) - Sprint (?) Anyone else? Can someone confirm the last two? -- Nathan Ward

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APNIC 26 Meeting Report
by Sunny 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

_______________________________________________________________________ APNIC 26 Meeting Report _______________________________________________________________________ 25-29 August 2008 Christchurch, New Zealand Thank you to everyone who attended or contributed to APNIC 26. APNIC 26 attendance statistics ------------------------------ Total number attending: 237 Economies represented: 33 APNIC member organisations represented: 70 APNIC 26 also staged two remote participation events where delegates in Hanoi and Manila could take part in the Policy SIG and APNIC Member Meeting via video conference. Number of Hanoi delegates: 25 Number of Manila delegates: 20 To read, watch or listen to archives from the meeting, go to: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/26/ Number Resource Organization (NRO) Number Council ------------------------------------------------- During the APNIC Member Meeting (AMM) in Christchurch on Friday, 29 August 2008, an election was held for a regional representative to the Number Resource Organization (NRO) Number Council (NC). Congratulations to the successful candidate Naresh Ajwani: Naresh Ajwani is President of Sify Technologies Limited, one of the pioneering leaders in the provision of eCommerce and Internet services in India. He is an Executive Council Member with ISPAI (Internet Service Providers Association of India) and brings over 25 years of core operational experience to this position. Election details are available at: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/26/election/ Meeting outcomes ---------------- Policy SIG Nine policy proposals were discussed in the Policy SIG. The following proposals reached consensus and were subsequently approved at the APNIC Member Meeting. These proposals are now subject to a 'last call' for comments: * prop-055: Global policy for the allocation of the remaining IPv4 address space * prop-061: Autonomous System Numbers (ASN) for documentation purposes * prop-062: Use of final /8 * prop-064: Change to assignment policy for AS numbers * prop-065: Format for delegation and recording of 4-byte AS numbers * prop-066: Ensuring efficient use of historical IPv4 resources The following proposal will be returned to the Policy SIG mailing list for further discussion: * prop-063: Reducing timeframe of IPv4 allocations from twelve to six months The following proposal will be returned to its author and mailing list for continued discussion: * prop-050: IPv4 resource transfers The following proposal will be revised by its author: * prop-060: Change in the criteria for the recognition of NIRs in the APNIC region APNIC Community Request for ICANN to Sign DNS Root The APNIC community considered ICANN's initiatives toward operational readiness for DNSSEC signing and informed ICANN that the Asia Pacific community supports efforts to sign the root of the DNS and called on ICANN to resolve these issues and to sign the root of the DNS as soon as is realistically possible. MoU (Memorandum of Understanding) APNIC signed two MoUs (Memorandum of Understanding). One with AusNOG, the other with NZNOG. These MoUs strengthened the relationship between the three organizations as they agreed to collectively work together, share information, and facilitate the development of the Internet in Australia and New Zealand. Meeting sponsors ---------------- APNIC offers its deepest thanks to the sponsors of APNIC 26, whose invaluable contributions allowed APNIC to offer a meeting program of a very high standard: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/26/sponsors/ Upcoming APNIC meetings ----------------------- APNIC 27 18-27 February 2009, Manila, Philippines APNIC 28 24-28 August 2009, Beijing, China APNIC 29 24 February - 5 March 2010, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Regards Sunny ____________________________________________________________________ Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi email: sunny(a)apnic.net External Relations Manager, APNIC sip: sunny(a)voip.apnic.net http://www.apnic.net ph/fx: +61 7 3858 3100/99

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updated .nz graphs / stats
by Blair Harrison 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Hi Folks, I've made a new set of graphs from the .nz statistics. xls and html versions are available at : http://jedi.school.nz/nzdg.html There seems to be an issue with viewing the html version in some versions of Firefox, so please try another browser or use the .xls if you can't open the html version. As usual, any feedback appreciated. Cheers, Blair

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NZNOG '09 Conference Announcement
by Dean Pemberton 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Well it's that time of year again. Time to announce the next NZNOG conference The NZNOG Conference Committee is pleased to announce that FX Networks will be hosting NZNOG'09 in Auckland from: Wednesday 28th to Friday 30th January 2009. Venue details are being finalised and will be sent to the list once complete. So put these dates in your calenders (.ics attached to make it easier) and keep an eye out for more details and a Call for Papers in the near future. See you all there. Dean

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NZNOG - APNIC MoU
by Jonny Martin 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

Hi All, APNIC have approached a number of the NZNOG'09 organising committee and mailing list maintainers about signing a Memorandum of Understanding to solidify the valuable support they provide the NZNOG community each year. Those of you who have attended NZNOG conferences will know that this takes the form of sponsorship, staff time and expertise, and general participation on this mailing list. The MoU is nothing more than an acknowledgement that collectively we should continue to work together, share information, and facilitate training. Simon Blake and myself, on behalf of the mailing list maintainers and NZNOG conference organising committees, will be signing this on Friday during the APNIC26 Annual Members Meeting. This has been discussed extensively by these two groups and people are comfortable with this. Dates and location for NZNOG'09 will also be announced at this time. I won't spam the list with the complete document - ping me if you would like to see a copy, or discuss. We'll pop a copy of the MoU up on the NZNOG website once the deed is done. Cheers, Jonny.

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Remote participation for APNIC 26
by Elly Tawhai 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

Hi, You may be aware that APNIC 26 has started. You can participate remotely in discussions, ask the presenter questions, and voice your opinion. For more information on webcast, podcast, Jabber chat, and live transcript services please see: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/26/remote/ Some of the exciting topics being covered include: * IPv4 in 2015 * ICANN Consultation * Internet governance hui * IPv6: Does it work for you? * Many policy proposals in policy SIG For more information about the agenda please see: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/26/program/ Kind regards, Elly APNIC

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Charging for IPv6
by Philip D'Ath 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

Initially those transit providers and ISPs that do offer IPv6 transit will be able to charge for this service as it will be a premium value add. However I can't see this business model being able to last for more than 6 years (through to 2012), and possibly only three years. After this point in time I expect IPv6 deployment will be standard, and will no longer be a premium service offering - it will be the standard offering, like IPv4 is today. Once IPv4 has become exhausted and you can't actually give a customer an IPv4 address then you definitely wont be able to charge more for IPv6 - otherwise the customer will walk. So do providers start implementing slowly now, and recoup some of their investment while they can, or wait till they are forced to do the upgrades and are not able to recoup any of their "new" investment. Rhetorical question.

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China Netcom gets a case DNS cache poisoning
by Juha Saarinen 21 Aug '08

21 Aug '08

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/netw/96ECA39DC47E6603CC2574AC006C4506 Thought the article might be of interest. -- Juha www.techsploder.com

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