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Re: [nznog] Whois Server
by Craig Spiers 13 May '07

13 May '07

yeah, i didnt think they would be.. any idea what the limit is set to? I dont mind say querying 1 domain every hour (extreme limit) but time is not critical with what im using it for. Just want to update billed until date in our database every month or so. I dont care if it takes all month to run over ~ 200 domains, as long as there's a date in there :) Cheers _____ From: Tim John - Domainz [mailto:tim.john(a)domainz.net.nz] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:26 AM To: Craig Spiers Subject: RE: [nznog] Whois Server Hi Craig, If you use the public whois or the lookup utility on the DNC site, there is a rate limit applied if a certain number of queries are attempted in a short space of time. If you happen to be an authorised Registrar, then you should connect via the XML gateway where rate limiting is not applied (or at least it's set a lot higher). I don't think the NZRS are interested in a conversation to increase this threshold on the public site. Been there, done it, got the T-shirt ! Tim From: Craig Spiers [mailto:craig(a)spiers.gen.nz] Sent: Monday, 14 May 2007 10:20 a.m. To: 'nznog' Subject: [nznog] Whois Server Hi All, I've been doing whois lookups against whois.srs.net.nz for a few domains we host at work, mainly to look at the billed until date. However, small problem.. query 10 domains and suddenly they block you. Has anyone else come across this? if so who do you talk to to get the limit increased? Cheers, Craig - Solarix

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Re: [nznog] Whois Server
by Craig Spiers 13 May '07

13 May '07

Yeah, unfortunatly we arent a registrar. We just host a lot of domains, and use enlighten as our registrar. Just trying to query for the billeduntil date - it's a legitimate purpose - we are just trying to build ourselves a notification system to warn us when domains are due to expire etc. I'll try contact nzrs Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Sam Sargeant [mailto:sam.sargeant(a)gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:25 AM To: Craig Spiers Subject: Re: [nznog] Whois Server On 5/14/07, Craig Spiers <craig(a)spiers.gen.nz> wrote: > I've been doing whois lookups against whois.srs.net.nz for a few > domains we host at work, mainly to look at the billed until date. > However, small problem.. query 10 domains and suddenly they block you. If you're a registrar it's recommended you use the XML api to the SRS for queries like this. The folks at NZRS (www.nzrs.net.nz) might be able to tweak their whois blacklisting if that's not an option for you. Sam.

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New Zealand IP Range
by bigalownz 13 May '07

13 May '07

does any one have a list of New Zealand IP Range ??

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Re: [nznog] New Zealand IP Range
by Ian Henderson 12 May '07

12 May '07

Drew Broadley <mailto:drew(a)broadley.org.nz> wrote on Sunday, 13 May 2007 12:03 PM: > Maxnet Nationalroute list > BGP feed on APE > BGP feed on WIX > Global Gateway NZ routing list 'wget ftp://ftp.apnic.net/pub/stats/apnic/delegated-apnic-latest; grep NZ delegated-apnic-latest' may also be useful. -- Ian Henderson, CCIE #14721 Senior Network Engineer, iiNet Limited

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Geoff Huston and Tony Hain align - This is bad.
by Nathan Ward 12 May '07

12 May '07

http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/ Those of you who are giving out or selling CPEs (or is the plural CPE?), would be wise to ensure that they currently, or with a software upgrade can, support IPv6. http://search.dse.co.nz/search.php? site=&w=IPv6&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&submit=Go -- Nathan Ward

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 10 May '07

10 May '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9889 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Maximum Internet Ltd - AS9889 members: 123.100.64.0/18^18-29, 202.89.32.0/19^19-29, 203.89.160.0/19^19-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.189.160.0/21^21-29, 210.55.100.0/22^22-29, 210.55.104.0/22^22-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 202.6.5.0/24^24-29, 202.6.116.0/24^24-29, 202.27.204.0/24^24-29, 202.36.70.0/24^24-29, 202.36.227.0/24^24-29, 202.37.72.0/24^24-29, 202.37.162.0/24^24-29, 202.37.181.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.150.102.0/24^24-29, 203.12.15.0/24^24-29, 203.97.42.0/24^24-29, 210.54.13.0/24^24-29, 210.54.142.0/24^24-29, 210.55.169.0/24^24-29, 210.55.214.0/24^24-29, 210.55.230.0/24^24-29, 203.167.219.56/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)maxnet.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070410 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9889 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Maximum Internet - AS9889 members: 123.100.64.0/18^18-29, 202.89.32.0/19^19-29, 203.89.160.0/19^19-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.189.160.0/21^21-29, 210.55.100.0/22^22-29, 210.55.104.0/22^22-29, 202.6.116.0/23^23-29, 192.138.251.0/24^24-29, 202.6.5.0/24^24-29, 202.27.204.0/24^24-29, 202.36.70.0/24^24-29, 202.36.227.0/24^24-29, 202.37.72.0/24^24-29, 202.37.162.0/24^24-29, 202.37.181.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 202.150.102.0/24^24-29, 203.12.15.0/24^24-29, 203.97.42.0/24^24-29, 210.54.13.0/24^24-29, 210.54.142.0/24^24-29, 210.55.169.0/24^24-29, 210.55.214.0/24^24-29, 210.55.230.0/24^24-29, 203.167.219.56/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)maxnet.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070511 source: NZRR

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Re: [nznog] Xtra
by Craig Whitmore 10 May '07

10 May '07

----- Original Message ----- From: "Geraint Jones" <g.jones(a)fmf.net.nz> To: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: [nznog] Xtra > Can someone from xtra please contact me offlist > Someone I know has a Dialup Xtra Account, so they are from Xtra. Good enough? Xtra is a large place..different people look after different things who may or may not be on this list. Dialup problem? Mail Problem? DNS Problem? Something else problem... too many to name. Being Serious now.. This mailing lists isn't for "please can someone contact me". There are other more official and better ways of contacting people who can help you. You could try: http://xtra.co.nz/help/0,,14395,00.html which seems to be the official ways of contacting them. Craig..

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Telstra Cable contact
by Nick Larsen 09 May '07

09 May '07

Hi, Could a Telstra Cable (or DSL) network engineer please contact me off-list (if emailing, use the email address in my signature). It's with regards to Telstra Cable and DSL customers experiencing issues with HTTP on the IP range: 202.174.6.0/23 Cheers, -- Nick Larsen ZeroOne Operations 04 471 4447 nick(a)zeroone.co.nz

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451 error from Freeparking mail server
by Michael Fincham 07 May '07

07 May '07

Hi everyone, Is anyone else experiencing this error delivering mail to freeparking hosting customers: <address removed>: host mta.hosts.net.nz[210.48.108.65] said: 451-Unable to validate michael(a)unleash.co.nz with the MX mailserver for 451 unleash.co.nz (in reply to RCPT TO command) We've been getting this message for several weeks when we attempt to deliver mail to Freeparking hosted customers. It doesn't seem like postmaster@ is being monitored, certainly I haven't received a reply from the several e-mails I've sent, and Freeparking's phone support people weren't any help. Any suggestions? -- -Michael Fincham <michael(a)unleash.co.nz> Unleash Technology Solutions

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Re: [nznog] Xtra
by Nathan Ward 07 May '07

07 May '07

Additionally, can Steve Phillips <steve(a)focb.co.nz> please contact me offlist. On 8/05/2007, at 12:04 PM, Geraint Jones wrote: > Can someone from xtra please contact me offlist > > Ta > > Geraint Jones > Systems Administrator > French Maid Foods > Tel + 64 4 568 2687 > Fax + 64 4 568 2345 > Mob + 64 21 739 240 > > > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > !DSPAM:22,463fbf378171548713350! > >

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Xtra
by Geraint Jones 07 May '07

07 May '07

Can someone from xtra please contact me offlist Ta Geraint Jones Systems Administrator French Maid Foods Tel + 64 4 568 2687 Fax + 64 4 568 2345 Mob + 64 21 739 240

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NZNOG 08 - Call for SIG / Miniconf / Tutorials
by Simon Lyall 03 May '07

03 May '07

The NZNOG 08 conference will be held on 23-25 January 2008 in Dunedin. The first day of the conference will again be a workshop and tutorial day. It is usually run as one or more parallel 'interest group' streams and practical or interactive workshops of interest to Network Operators. This is a call for papers and activities for the first day of conference. Examples of past activities workshops include 'MPLS and fixed access networks for beginners', 'Mikrotik RouterOS Training', 'APNIC Internet Resource Management Essentials', and a System Administrators mini-conference which included talks on 'Using Debian packages for system administration' and '42 hosts in 1U: Using virtual machines'. A further call for presenters for the remainder of the conference (a single stream of general networking topics) will be made in due course. Please contact prog08 @ nznog.org if you are interested in organising an event on this day or if you have a suggestion about an event that could be included.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 02 May '07

02 May '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9733 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Netspace Services Limited - AS9733 members: 210.4.208.0/21^21-29, 203.118.134.64/26^26-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: operations(a)netspace.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070116 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9733 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Netspace Services Limited - AS9733 members: 210.4.208.0/21^21-29, 203.118.134.64/26^26-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: gerard(a)netspace.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070503 source: NZRR

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InternetNZ Governance Positions
by Keith Davidson 01 May '07

01 May '07

Please pardon the intrusion of this somewhat off-topic post to this list, and I promise to buy beer for anyone who takes offence, at next years NOG meeting... InternetNZ is recruiting directors to sit on the Board of its subsidiary company, New Zealand Domain Name Registry Ltd (trading as .nz Registry Services or "NZRS"); and members to sit on the .nz Oversight Committee ("NZOC"), which has stewardship of the .nz domain name space. These positions provide an exciting opportunity to contribute to the good governance of the .nz domain name space. Company directors and those with general governance skills are encouraged to apply for the appropriate positions. The retiring incumbents are eligible for reappointment. More information on the Domain Name Commission can be found at www.dnc.org.nz and about NZRS at www.nzrs.net.nz and a summary of the vacancies is available at <www.internetnz.net.nz/vacancy/index.html> Please send applications to vacancy(a)internetnz.net.nz by 5pm on Wednesday 9 May. Regards Keith Davidson Executive Director - InternetNZ

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 01 May '07

01 May '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Ltd - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 203.99.0.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.167.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.174.160.0/24^24-29, 203.86.200.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.1.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29, 210.55.180.128/26^26-29, 210.55.193.64/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: thomas.salmen(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070111 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Limited - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 203.99.0.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.167.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.174.160.0/24^24-29, 203.86.200.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.1.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29, 210.55.180.128/26^26-29, 210.55.193.64/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: ricky.tipper(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070502 source: NZRR

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IPv6 WIX Route Server being upgraded
by Dylan Hall 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

The IPv6 WIX route server will be disappearing for a short time this afternoon while it is upgraded. The upgrade fixes a couple of quagga bugs, gives us a newer OS/Kernel, and adds support for MD5 auth (passwords) and 4-byte ASN's. If anyone is interested in testing the new features please drop an email to: tech <at> citylink.co.nz. If anyone has any issues with the route server after the upgrade, please drop an email to: faults <at> citylink.co.nz. or call the usual fault numbers. Thanks, Dylan

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Notice of maintenance work on ns1.dns.net.nz
by DNS 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Please note we will be doing some maintenance work on the machine that serves ns1.dns.net.nz between 06:00 and 10:00 on Sunday 29th of April. During this time ns1.dns.net.nz may not be available. Throughout this period the other six .nz zone servers (ns2 - ns7) will be available. Please contact me if you have any questions. Dave Baker .nz Registry Services support(a)nzrs.net.nz

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Reminder for 2.3Ghz BWA comments
by Paul Horak 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Just a reminder for anyone with an interest in using 2.3Ghz for Broadand Wireless Access - comments on the proposed Auction/Managed Park have to be in by 5pm tommorrow (27th April). Full details are on the MED site here: http://www.rsm.govt.nz/auctions/auction09/index.html Cheers, Paul NetSmart Ltd http://www.netsmart.co.nz/, Level 2, Regency House, 1 Elizabeth Street, P O Box 15020, Tauranga, New Zealand Tel: 07 5711367 Fax: 07 5711372

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Re: [nznog] Traffic shaping
by Jonathon Exley 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Try mastershaper (www.mastershaper.org) I haven't used it but it looks pretty Jonathon Exley ------------- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:54:30 +1200 (NZST) From: "Michael Fincham" <michael(a)unleash.co.nz> Subject: [nznog] Traffic shaping To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Hello Everyone, What're people using for traffic shaping and prioritisation these days? I'm trying to find if there is a viable alternative to the old standard of tc and qdiscs like htb and cbq which are a pain (and a half) to maintain. -- -Michael Fincham Unleash Technology Solutions

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Traffic shaping
by Michael Fincham 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Hello Everyone, What're people using for traffic shaping and prioritisation these days? I'm trying to find if there is a viable alternative to the old standard of tc and qdiscs like htb and cbq which are a pain (and a half) to maintain. -- -Michael Fincham Unleash Technology Solutions

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Hotmail
by Simon Garner 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Has anyone else here encountered issues where email to Hotmail is just silently discarded? Hotmail's servers accept the email for delivery, but then it never appears in the inbox, nor the Junk folder. I have been trying to work through this problem with a customer for the last couple of weeks and it's got me stumped. The domain (simpleas.co.nz) of the server the customer is sending from has SPF and SenderID records, and mail to other sites works fine (Gmail for example shows "PASS" for the SPF records). I am offering free beer for the first person with a working solution. PS: I'd ask Hotmail, but it seems like it's not worth the effort: http://davesource.com/Bugs/hotmail.1.html Cheers, -- Simon Garner Technical Director <sgarner(a)expio.co.nz> EXPIO Communications Ltd <http://www.expio.co.nz>

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Network changes at Xtra ...
by Tim John - Domainz 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Hi, We're having a number of customers complain about email not being delivered over the Xtra network. Error messages being submitted to us are similar to: Apr 24 00:00:37 web1 postfix/smtp[14312]: 999977E99E: to=<xx(a)xtra.co.nz>, orig_to=<les(a)xx.co.nz>, relay=mta.xtra.co.nz[210.54.141.1], delay=7174, status=deferred (host mta.xtra.co.nz[210.54.141.1] said: 421 Message rejected (in reply to end of DATA command)) We know Xtra have recently being changing setting on firewall/router combination as we had a similar issue last week .... It looks like they are doing it again ! What really takes the biscuit is that customers who call Xtra are told that it's a fault of someone else i.e ours !! We're happy to take calls from these customers, but we would like to give them the right information, unlike Xtra is doing ! Could someone Xtra contact me off list, please. Sorry if this is off topic, but it's mighty frustrating as this is a continuous battle .. Thanks, Tim

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[Fwd: IPv6 Type 0 Route Header Design Flaw]
by Juha Saarinen 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Apropos the recent discussions about IPv6: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: IPv6 Type 0 Route Header Design Flaw Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:09:19 +0200 From: Marc Balmer <mbalmer(a)openbsd.org> Organization: The OpenBSD Project To: security-announce(a)openbsd.org IPv6 type 0 route headers can be used to mount a DoS attack against hosts and networks. This is a design flaw in IPv6 and not a bug in OpenBSD. This problem has been fixed in the OpenBSD CVS repository in the -current and -stable branches. The -current snapshots of OpenBSD contain these fixes as well. It is recommended that users of OpenBSD update their kernel asap using cvs or manually apply the source code patches listed below. A source code patch for OpenBSD 4.0-stable can be downloaded from ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.0/common/012_route6.patch. A source code patch for OpenBSD 3.9-stable can be downloaded from ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/3.9/common/022_route6.patch. -- Juha Saarinen * Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur * www.geekzone.co.nz/juha

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NZNOG 2008 - Where, When, WIC
by Donald Neal 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

WIC New Zealand Ltd ( http://www.wic.co.nz/ ) have stepped forward to host next year's NZNOG conference on 23-25 January 2008 in Dunedin. "I've consulted a map, and while Dunedin isn't in Auckland or Wellington, it does appear to be part of New Zealand", said Jonny Martin, chair of the organising committee. "This announcement represents an opportunity for those intending to come to next year's conference to think about arranging travel more than two or three days before the event." Look out for more information, including a Call For Presentations, by mid-May. - Donald Neal For the Organising Committee Donald Neal | Joe Abley Rules! Alcatel-Lucent | http://www.iab.org/ Support Engineer | Technology Operations | HTC, Caro Street, Hamilton +--------------------------------- This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by Cafenet CHC - AS23754 members: 198.48.3.64/28^28-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: simon(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070402 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Citylink - AS23754 members: 198.48.0.0/22^22-29, 202.8.44.0/22^22-29, 202.7.6.0/23^23-29, 97.64.46.0/24^24-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 202.7.5.0/24^24-29, 203.118.144.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: simon(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070423 source: NZRR

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Jabley selected as Executive Director for Internet Architecture Board.
by jamie baddeley 22 Apr '07

22 Apr '07

http://www.iab.org/ I for one, welcome our new Internet overlord. Congrats Joe. Jamie

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Backlog of email to Xtra
by Glen Eustace 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

We currently have a growing queue of email to xtra.co.nz on all of our mail servers. According to Xtra's website, there are no issues. Is this just our problem or is this a little more of a generic problem ? We are just getting lost of "421 Message rejected (in reply to end of DATA command)" errors. Glen.

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TCL -> Callplus/Slingshot issues
by Steve Biddle 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

All day yesterday I was unable to see any of the Callplus/Slingshot network from my TCL cable connection (obviously due to the Telecom problems). This issue was resolved last night but is now occuring again. I've given up trying to ring the TCL helpdesk (wait times listed as 90 mins despite no known network issues) so am at least hoping somebody reading this may be able to look into the issue if they're not already. All other internet sites from TCL are working fine so it appears to be some sort of routing issue somewhere..

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List archives somewhere peered?
by Jonathan Brewer 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Hi Folks, Does anyone keep a list archive somewhere not affected by the current outage? Cheers, Jon

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Re: [nznog] Temporary IP tunnel to Digiweb
by Stephen Sheehan 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Yup It all back up now, have a vodafone card in laptop as back up :-) --- Criggie <criggie(a)criggie.dyndns.org> wrote: > Try again now - should be all fixed for you. > > > > Stephen Sheehan wrote: > > The tunnel through Jasper fell through, can anyone > > else help? > > > > Thanks > > > > Stephen > > Chillisoft ltd > > > > --- Stephen Sheehan <axpunix(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT) > >> From: Stephen Sheehan <axpunix(a)yahoo.com> > >> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> Subject: [nznog] Temporary IP tunnel to Digiweb > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Is anyone able to provide an IP tunnel to bypass > the > >> telstra clear outage, 128k will be fine. We need > >> access to our extranet based at digiweb in > >> christchurch. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Stephen > >> Chillisoft Ltd > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >> protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NZNOG mailing list > >> NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NZNOG mailing list > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > > -- > Criggie > > http://criggie.dyndns.org/ > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [nznog] Temporary IP tunnel to Digiweb
by Stephen Sheehan 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

The tunnel through Jasper fell through, can anyone else help? Thanks Stephen Chillisoft ltd --- Stephen Sheehan <axpunix(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: Stephen Sheehan <axpunix(a)yahoo.com> > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [nznog] Temporary IP tunnel to Digiweb > > Hi, > > Is anyone able to provide an IP tunnel to bypass the > telstra clear outage, 128k will be fine. We need > access to our extranet based at digiweb in > christchurch. > > Thanks > > Stephen > Chillisoft Ltd > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Temporary IP tunnel to Digiweb
by Stephen Sheehan 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Hi, Is anyone able to provide an IP tunnel to bypass the telstra clear outage, 128k will be fine. We need access to our extranet based at digiweb in christchurch. Thanks Stephen Chillisoft Ltd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Email to SMS gateway
by Clark Mills 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Hi all. I read this on one of our internal mailing lists, thought it might be of interest / use. We use something like this for server monitoring but it's not so good if your email server / network is down, aside from the potential lagginess [SP?] that sometimes occurs with the SMS service. Still, it may have some value to you. Of course if any information below is wrong, please let me know. Cheers... Clark ================================================================================= [forwarded & edited] If you are on Vodafone, you can 'register' you phone by texting the letter R to the number 901. You should then get back a 'you are registered etc' welcome message. Once your phone is registered anyone/thing can send you a txt by using an email address such as: 6421123456(a)sms.vodafone.net.nz Where your mobile number is presumed to be 021-123456. As far as I know, there is no charge for this service.

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Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway
by Stewart Fleming 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

We use the Psychic Hotline. When anything is about to go down, they give us a call and we can get it fixed before it causes a problem. -- -- Tel: 03 474 2100 Cell: 021 993 125 Web: www.wic.co.nz Co-location and Web hosting. Dunedin-wide wireless. Independent Internet Service Provider.

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Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway
by Phill Mckenna 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

We use a combination of SMS messages sent via a Wavecom GSM Modem for server and network link and services monitoring, and our main alarm system connects via xml to a "datashed" gateway which gives us handset availability notification, automatic escalation and fallback to a Telecom CDMA modem for backup. In addition we send a test message once an hour to a remote site, if the message isn't heard, it triggers a timer that eventually triggers a voice dialer. Telecom paging was our previous provider, however as they keep continuing to threaten to phase this out, we moved over to SMS some time ago. Phill Mckenna Operations Technology Manager Kapiti Coast District Council Operations Centre DDI: +64 4 296 4753 Fax: +64 4 296 4733 Mobile: +64 027 555 5753 E mail: phill.mckenna(a)kapiticoast.govt.nz -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Johnson [mailto:aj(a)sneep.net] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:30 a.m. To: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway Erin Salmon - Unleash wrote: > We actually use a Nokia cellphone and a data cable. I'm not aware of a > method which guarantees delivery. We are in the CBD and I note sometimes > when all those nightclubbers are frantically messaging each other messages > occasionally don't make it to the recipient. Best solution to my mind is > just to send a message periodically until a reply is sent to the system to > dismiss the notification. That is a reasonably practical solution. It has the nice side effect of ensuring that even if the message does get delivered, whoever is on call isn't ignoring it. I looked at this a while ago, and used an external mail-to-SMS provider (Bulletin Wireless) which worked fine. Obviously having an out-of-band path to them is also handy. As someone else mentioned, Telecom's analog paging service is also reliable and easy to automate. Pagers tend to work when out of cell coverage or in deep dark basements. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog ##################################################################################### This e-mail message and any attached files may contain confidential information, and may be subject to legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete. Unless formally stated, this e-mail and any attachments do not necessarily reflect the views of the Kapiti Coast District Council. The Council takes extensive precautions with the aim of detecting and removing any virus or defects from its e-mail system but accepts no liability for loss or damage should this e-mail not be virus or defect free or should there be any errors in transmission. #####################################################################################

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Vodafone Peering
by Philip D'Ath 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Does Vodafone peer with anybody in NZ? I've been playing with an HSPDA card, and every traceroute (even to IHUG!) always go directly to the US. I would thought they would at least peer with the other two major Telco's in NZ.

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Re: [nznog] Save your money and hassle
by John ＠ netTRUST 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

> [Reply] > > John, > > What do you use to drive it? I see the ActiveXperts software is another > US$395 .... > > Must be a simpler way. SMS link http://smslink.sourceforge.net/ Pro's works well once setup and tuned. Has support for MySQL Supports all major SMS modems though I'm unsure of the support for Nokia or any cellphone. Con's - slow to process send / receive (as is most software because the msgs get stored on the SIM card first) Good for low traffic, unsuited to bulk send/receive. Note to the person suggesting using a cellphone. SMS modems use a pretty standardised AT command set and you talk to them just like you would to a modem. Cellphones AFAIK usually have proprietory interfaces.

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Save your money and hassle
by John ＠ netTRUST 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

We exclusively use SMS modems here. The Wavecom is the best you can buy and only slightly dearer then the cheaper models. http://www.itx.co.nz/index.php?cPath=29 is a company I've dealt with before and they are allright.

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Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway
by Philip D'Ath 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Actually, SMS does offer "guaranteed" delivery. It doesn't matter if the phone is off, an error occurs in communication, a data circuit goes down ... However there are limits. If the message cannot be delivered (such as end device failure) then you can request a receipt to get notification of this. I don't recall ever noticing a lag of hours for SMS delivery (I don't ever recall a TXT taking more than 60s to be delivered) but I guess different TXT processing systems use different methods for getting the TXT into the network for delivery. -----Original Message----- From: Jasper Bryant-Greene [mailto:j(a)digiweb.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:15 a.m. To: Philip D'Ath Cc: Samuel Collinson; Dan Clark; NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Email to SMS gateway On this - we have found SMS to be a bit unreliable lately, with messages being delivered hours late or not at all. I am aware that SMS does not provide "guaranteed delivery" - what methods are others on this list using to send alerts reliably? Cheers Jasper

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Affordable Voltage Monitoring over Ethernet?
by Dan Clark 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Gidday, Just wondering if any network operators etc here are using or have seen any kind of device that can measure voltage/current out there somewhere on a network and we can interrogate it remotely and may even send alerts etc if drops below threshold etc? Would have to be resonably affordable, and in simple kit form or off the shelf. If nothing available that anyone can think of I may develop something along these lines, cheap, simple, ethernet, and probably 12V Open for discussion if anyone remotely interested. Regards Dan

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MP3 streaming data usage
by John ＠ netTRUST 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

Anyone have any idea how much data would be consumed each day streaming MP3 at 128kbps audio stream rate? Thanks.

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Re: [nznog] MP3 streaming data usage
by Richard Naylor 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

At 03:38 p.m. 16/04/2007 +1200, Neil Gardner wrote: >Ergh... Hate to say this, but don't you have that 10 bits to the byte >thing approximately ass-backwards? No. As I said, I come from an Ancient World (TM), where we debugged protocols like DDCMP with a Tek Logic Analayser, scope or logic probe. None of this Ethereal stuff, ethernet hadn't escaped from PARC and Vint was still drawing on envelopes. RS-232 was modern, current loop was till very active (sorry, no pun intended). (Probably Michael Newberry is the only one who will get it anyway, Andy and Sid say they're too young, and the others are looking blank) Each Byte is (or was) a START bit, 8 data bits, PARITY and a STOP or IDLE bit. So we always approximated it to 10 bits. (different devices handle parity bits different ways, it used to be that if there was no parity, no bit was used. LSI USARTS started the trend towards always having a bit used. This is a world where a serial port took up a whole UNIBUS slot (ie a card 400mm by 200mm). As I said, its an approximation for budgeting purposes and comes from an ancient era. Have you found the beer yet ? R

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Re: [nznog] Affordable Voltage Monitoring over Ethernet?
by Richard Naylor 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

At 04:10 p.m. 16/04/2007 +1200, Dan Clark wrote: >Gidday, > Just wondering if any network operators etc here are using or have seen > any kind of device that can measure voltage/current out there somewhere > on a network and we can interrogate it remotely and may even send alerts > etc if drops below threshold etc? >Would have to be resonably affordable, and in simple kit form or off the >shelf. > >If nothing available that anyone can think of I may develop something >along these lines, cheap, simple, ethernet, and probably 12V >Open for discussion if anyone remotely interested. google for a Link-10 or Link-20, I think they now do ethernet, it used to be serial, but you just chucked in a Lantronix thingy

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Re: [nznog] MP3 streaming data usage
by Richard Naylor 15 Apr '07

15 Apr '07

At 02:49 p.m. 16/04/2007 +1200, Neil Gardner wrote: >Dammit - I know we've been asked to stop this, but now something >interesting has happened... you found the beer ? >Richard, you, who I know has great experience in this, have posted >figures that are UNDER my very basic but probably right theoretical >minimums > >How do you fit 3600 seconds at 128kbps into 46MB ? I get 56.25MB... I have this ancient spreadsheet with a few assumptions.... I basically round 10bits to the byte to cover overheads in the packet, etc. So a data rate of say 128kbps is 12.8KB per sec or 0.13Mbps 768KB per minute or 7.68Mbps 46080 KB per hour or 460.9 Mbps or 46.08 MBytes per hour Remembering that you will get silence and various other things (outages, etc) it will always be an approximation. It just gives you a feel for the order of magnitude of the bill :-) Most stations actually have a second stream in reserve for special "promotional" occassions and they kick them into life every now and then, just to muck up the stats. The biggest use of it has been to work out that a 10GB plan is OK for radio stations at 32Kbps streams. Now that 40+GB plans are out, folks are looking at webcams again and it looks like we can stream a camera and stay inside a 40GB plan at 128k video, which isn't too bad looking. I should probably rework the spreadsheet for HD streams at 10Mbps. It looks like 5TB a month. And yes, IPV6 and multicast will solve all our problems, including world hunger and the endless shortage of beer. But I'm showing my age......

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Re: [nznog] IPv6 Incentive
by Scott Weeks 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

--- andy(a)nosignal.org wrote:---------------- ip is a means to an end, I don't craft packets for fun, I do work or have fun, and ip occurs as a way to send my messages from A to B. --------------------------------------------- ding, ding, ding! From the many lists discussing these issues recently, we finally have a winner! Most folk don't care about v4, v6, v8 or v<insert stuff here>. They want to do something and they 'just want it to work'. 99.999% couldn't give less than a crap how that happens. scott BTW 6,525,170,264 x .00001 = 65250 That's this: World — Population: 6,525,170,264 (July 2006 est.) https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/xx.html times one minus five nines 65250 is about how many of there are who do give more than a crap about how that happens. Beer...MMMM... 8-)

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[Fwd: Re: IPv6 Incentive]
by Gerard Creamer 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

On 13/04/2007 4:24 p.m., Craig Whitmore wrote: >> I'm not a porn fan myself, but from other types of media, 10G isn't that >> much. >> Maybe if they put 1TB of porn and 1TB of free tv content from a major >> studio, then we'd have an experiment. >> Would it be better to be Geek TV (Dr Who, Firefly, etc) or Jo Public TV (Lost, Grey's Anatomy, all 500 seasons of Coro St etc)? I think Geek TV would get more drive for it. Like it would happen though. >> > > There is some content at http://www.ipv6porn.co.nz. (If you have IPv6) Looking at http://www.v6.co.nz/ on the 'Who Provides IPv6' there's nothing - is there an NZ provider of IPv6? I know this topic has come up on the list before, and it usually degrades in circular discussions - it would be nice to hear 'Yes, ISP X offers IP6 within NZ'. Without anyone spieling on about the glories of their own wares, of course :^) Gerard

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New Sepctrum Auction
by Paul Horak 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Plans for auctioning the 2.3Ghz band for BWA/WiMAX have been published: http://www.rsm.govt.nz/auctions/auction09/index.html I think there is a real opportunity here for some of us to get access to spectrum. At present the lions share (or possibly all of it) will go to two or three companies to build a nationwide network. There is also a proposal to allocate some spectrum for regional operators under a "Managed Park". I suspect there are quite a few people interested in this who have not yet been in contact with RSM - it is essential that you let RSM know your interest and you respond to this consultation document. If the vast majority of comments come from the large providers wishing to deploy nationwide networks then I suspect there will be little or no regional spectrum available. I would also be grateful if you can contact me off list if you have an interest in obtaining spectrum for regional use. I have some ideas that might help our cause that I would like to share. Cheers, Paul NetSmart Ltd http://www.netsmart.co.nz/, Level 2, Regency House, 1 Elizabeth Street, P O Box 15020, Tauranga, New Zealand Tel: 07 5711367 Fax: 07 5711372

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Re: [nznog] IPv6 Incentive
by Scott Weeks 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

--- steve(a)focb.co.nz wrote: Scott Weeks wrote: > > --- andy(a)nosignal.org wrote:---------------- > ip is a means to an end, I don't craft packets for fun, I do work or > have fun, and ip occurs as a way to send my messages from A to B. > --------------------------------------------- > > ding, ding, ding! From the many lists discussing these issues > recently, we finally have a winner! Most folk don't care about > v4, v6, v8 or v<insert stuff here>. They want to do something > and they 'just want it to work'. 99.999% couldn't give less > than a crap how that happens. : or are you saying that there are only 65,250 clueful IP/IT : engineers in the world or people working in related fields ? This one. Clueful IP engineers in the world that also care about the version of IP used more than leaving a crap. :-) : Feel like citing references for your 99.999% figure ? It was just for fun and to make the point that most people in the world just don't care how stuff moves around the internet. They just want it to get to where they tell it to go. The five nines comes from many marketing-speak droids when telling everyone that their network has 5-nines of uptime. Of course with no more details than just that... <8-0 <== that's a crazy-eyed marketing droid babbling marketing-speak. scott

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Some graphs of .nz domain statistics
by Blair Harrison 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Hi Guys, I took some of the data provided from the DNC website here: http://dnc.org.nz/story/30221-51-1.html and turned it into some graphs. You can check this out in either HTML or XLS format at my website: http://jedi.school.nz/nzdg.html Hope this is interesting viewing for someone :) Cheers, Blair

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IPv6 Incentive
by Andrew Ruthven 10 Apr '07

10 Apr '07

Hey, During the NZNOG conference it was joked that if the next WoW pack required IPv6 then IPv6 would be rolled out by the ISPs (and transit providers) for the next morning. See the attached mail for an experiment that might be cause it to be rolled out for that evening... Cheers! -- Andrew Ruthven, Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | This space intentionally | left blank.

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