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RE: [nznog] NZ IP-Range
by Kerry Milestone 30 Jun '05

30 Jun '05

Hi there, but from the top of that file it grabs it states: # # Note that this is *not* an definitive guide, and does not cover all of the # APNIC ranges. (see whois.apnic.net) is there a definitive guide? Kerry. ________________________________ From: Barry Murphy [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 9:30 a.m. To: James J. Guidera; NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] NZ IP-Range I got this script from Paul of linuxsystems, grabs the APNIC IP database and compiles a list of NZ ip ranges: #!/usr/local/bin/php <?php $in_file = "ftp://ftp.apnic.net/pub/apnic/dbase/data/country-ipv4.lst"; // $in_file = "country-ipv4.lst"; $out_file = "nzipranges.txt"; $handle_input = @fopen($in_file,"r") or die("Unable to open $in_file\n\n"); $handle_output = fopen($out_file, "w"); $now = date ("r"); fwrite ($handle_output,"# Generated: $now\n\n"); while (!feof($handle_input)) { $buffer = fgets($handle_input); if ( ereg ( "nz", $buffer) ) { // echo $buffer; $this_range = trim(preg_replace ( "#([\d\.]+) \- [\d\.]+ : [\d\.]+(\/\d+) .+#","$1$2", $buffer )); fwrite ($handle_output,"\n" . $this_range); } } fclose($handle_input); fwrite ($handle_output,"\n"); fclose($handle_output); ?> ----- Original Message ----- From: James J. Guidera <mailto:james(a)miracle.co.nz> To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: [nznog] NZ IP-Range Just a quick question, Is there a singular complete list of NZ ip range?? I am wanting to allow only NZ traffic access to servers. Thanks James Guidera Systems Engineer Miracle Electronics Ltd Ph:+64-4-385-1293 Cel: +64-21-705-614 ________________________________ _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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RE: [nznog] NZ IP-Range
by Kerry Milestone 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

I know what I asked, 'tis why I did. I have often wondered about the fact that the internet can _be_ definitive only for the moment its queried. -----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 4:27 p.m. To: Steve Phillips Cc: Kerry Milestone Subject: Re: [nznog] NZ IP-Range Steve Phillips wrote: > Think of what you ask. The simple answer is "no" Oh gowon... I know you've got it. Let Kerry have your definitive NZIP guide now, and don't be so mean.

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police mail tech
by jamie.baddeley＠vpc.co.nz 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Can someone from NZ Police please contact me offlist. thanks jamie

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RE: [nznog] NZ IP-Range
by James J. Guidera 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Cheers for the warning, -----Original Message----- From: Russell Fulton [mailto:r.fulton(a)auckland.ac.nz] Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 11:40 a.m. Cc: James J. Guidera; NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] NZ IP-Range Steve Phillips wrote: > > Just be aware that these solutions will give you a list of "NZ IP > Ranges" but may not be New Zealand based netwise. > > If you are looking for traffic originating in NZ and not traversing any > international links then thats an entirely different story and only your > ISP can provide you with this. > > If this is a bill saving exercise then it may pay to be a little prudent. > I echo Steve's warning. It really depends how relaible you need the data to be. Back in the days when everything went throug NZGate at Waikato they kept lists of NZ addresses based upon the BGP tables. These contain quite a few small blocks of non NZ addresses -- mainly belonging to large multination companies and Telcos. I imagine it has got worse not better. If accuracy is crucial then you really need something based on the routing tables that gets updated frequently. Russell

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NZ IP-Range
by James J. Guidera 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Just a quick question, Is there a singular complete list of NZ ip range?? I am wanting to allow only NZ traffic access to servers. Thanks James Guidera Systems Engineer Miracle Electronics Ltd Ph:+64-4-385-1293 Cel: +64-21-705-614

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Re: [nznog] Technical Announcement
by Webmaster 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

> Have you considered multicast as an option, and if so, what stopped you > from deploying it? Client support or Network support? Multicast is only usefull for live streams (which we are still working on rights issues for). I remember hearing a lot about Multicast at the NAB coference in 1997. The website is still there (http://www.ipmulticast.com/). For ISPs who peer with us in NZ, we'd certainly look at enabling it (subject to some solid testing being done of course). cheers, Richard

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RE: [nznog] NZ IP-Range
by James J. Guidera 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Thanks for the script Paul, might have look into the software and IP2location for the windows based machines, and script for linux. James ________________________________ From: Barry Murphy [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 9:30 a.m. To: James J. Guidera; NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] NZ IP-Range I got this script from Paul of linuxsystems, grabs the APNIC IP database and compiles a list of NZ ip ranges: #!/usr/local/bin/php <?php $in_file = "ftp://ftp.apnic.net/pub/apnic/dbase/data/country-ipv4.lst"; // $in_file = "country-ipv4.lst"; $out_file = "nzipranges.txt"; $handle_input = @fopen($in_file,"r") or die("Unable to open $in_file\n\n"); $handle_output = fopen($out_file, "w"); $now = date ("r"); fwrite ($handle_output,"# Generated: $now\n\n"); while (!feof($handle_input)) { $buffer = fgets($handle_input); if ( ereg ( "nz", $buffer) ) { // echo $buffer; $this_range = trim(preg_replace ( "#([\d\.]+) \- [\d\.]+ : [\d\.]+(\/\d+) .+#","$1$2", $buffer )); fwrite ($handle_output,"\n" . $this_range); } } fclose($handle_input); fwrite ($handle_output,"\n"); fclose($handle_output); ?> ----- Original Message ----- From: James J. Guidera <mailto:james(a)miracle.co.nz> To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: [nznog] NZ IP-Range Just a quick question, Is there a singular complete list of NZ ip range?? I am wanting to allow only NZ traffic access to servers. Thanks James Guidera Systems Engineer Miracle Electronics Ltd Ph:+64-4-385-1293 Cel: +64-21-705-614 ________________________________ _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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RE: [nznog] NZ IP-Range
by Mark Karena 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Not sure if there is a single list within the community but there are places that sell IP<-> location software that pulls info from APNIC, ARIN etc. Here is one place. http://www.ip2location.com/?AfID=23224 HTH, ------------------------------------------- Mark Karena Administrator ENLIGHTEN HOSTING (07) 853 6060 (021) 141 3792 _____ From: James J. Guidera [mailto:james(a)miracle.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2005 9:00 a.m. To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] NZ IP-Range Just a quick question, Is there a singular complete list of NZ ip range?? I am wanting to allow only NZ traffic access to servers. Thanks James Guidera Systems Engineer Miracle Electronics Ltd Ph:+64-4-385-1293 Cel: +64-21-705-614

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Re: [nznog] Technical Announcement
by Webmaster 28 Jun '05

28 Jun '05

>>> Barry Murphy <barry(a)unix.co.nz> 06/29/05 2:38 PM >>> > For providers not connected to the peering exchanges > will the content be delivered from the USA? Yes, at the 'standard' rate of 16 or 24 kbs. This rate is on a par with other Public Broadcasters. Peering ISPs get higher rates from the local servers. > This would mean those providers will only get the USA > content and wont be allowed to hear the copyright audio? NZ Restricted audio, actually. We use the exchange infrastructure to limit the distribution of some content. At the start there won't be any NZ restricted content (apart from Enzology). We expect demand for the service to be quite high, and don't want to have to sort between help desk calls from consumers who's ISPs do not peer and people who have a genuine problem. R.

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RE: [nznog] Technical Announcement
by Regan Murphy 28 Jun '05

28 Jun '05

>>For providers not connected to the peering exchanges such as telecom and telstra The way I see it is that while these two providers are connected to the one or more exchanges, its just that they don't openly peer with everybody at the exchanges. Therefore they may choose to peer directly with radionz at one of these exchanges thus enabling the content to be provided to their subscribers. -- Regan -----Original Message----- From: Barry Murphy [mailto:barry(a)unix.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 2:38 p.m. To: Webmaster; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Technical Announcement Hi, For providers not connected to the peering exchanges such as telecom and telstra, will the content be delivered from the USA? I'm guessing this is the case so you don't have to purchase domestic links from those providers. This would mean those providers will only get the USA content and wont be allowed to hear the copyright audio? Thanks Barry P.S. www.ispmap.co.nz is backup and running people, sorry the hardware died and took a while to replace. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Webmaster" <Webmaster(a)radionz.co.nz> To: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:24 PM Subject: [nznog] Technical Announcement > Hi, > > Radio New Zealand has recently installed content servers at the > Auckland (APE), Wellington (WIX), and Palmerston North (PNIX) internet > exchanges. We also have a server located in California, USA to serve > content to New Zealanders overseas. > > These servers have been deployed within the R2 infrastructure and will > be used for the soon-to-be-launched on-demand and simulcast audio > service. > There will be a range of on-demand content from programmes broadcast > on both networks, and we are hoping to provide live streams of > National Radio and Concert FM (subject to resolving some outstanding > copyright issues). When the service commences we expect about 60 hours > of new content to be available each week. The servers will also be > used by Radio NZ International for their on-demand and simulcast audio. > > All streams will initially be 16 kbs maximum, and this may increase to > 24 kbs once we have a handle on traffic flows. Everyone will be able > to access content at this rate. > > We have chosen to deploy a multi-homed architecture for the following > reasons: > 1. Greater diversity and redundancy than a single site/provider > architecture. > 2. Reduced network latency for improved streaming performance. > 3. Shortest path for broadband consumers (reducing network congestion > for Operators). > 4. Scalability, allowing us to add servers at new exchanges in the > future. > 5. To minimise national transit costs for the ISP's of customers using > the content. > 6. Lowest cost to serve content. > > The servers have a globally consistent anycast IP address which will > be advertised at each exchange to ensure that the content is delivered > from the nearest server to the consumer. > > As new exchanges are installed throughout the country we intend to > deploy content servers at them, subject to certain minimum criteria > being met. This also includes MUSH style networks outlined in the NZ > Government's Digital Strategy. > > In order to get the best performance we recommend that you peer > directly with the anycast routers at all the exchanges where you have > connectivity. > > For those who wish to peer locally an enhanced service is available > from the NZ exchange-based content servers. Maximum data rates will > increase to 32 or 48 kbs for on-demand content and 48 or 64 kbs for > live streams. The live simulcasts (when available) will be available > in stereo at these rates. > > Where content is limited to NZ for copyright reasons there will be no > international route, meaning customers of non-peering ISPs will not be > able to access the content. This is currently the case with the > Enzology series (www.radionz.co.nz/enzology/). > > Please contact our peering coordinator at peering(a)radionz.co.nz if you > need to establish a peering session with our content servers. > > We will be maintaining a list of peers and a help page on our new > website so that consumers can be informed about how to access the > enhanced service. > > Operators may expect increased help desk activity due to their > customers not being able to access NZ restricted content, or asking > for access to the enhanced service. > > We are publishing our intentions to this list in advance of the launch > so that Operators can prepare for what we expect will be a very > popular service with the 686,000 people who listen each week to > National Radio and Concert FM. > > We expect to go live in 2-3 weeks. > > > regards, > > > Richard Hulse > New Media Manager > Radio New Zealand > > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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