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Upcoming Webcasts on R2.co.nz
by Richard Naylor 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

After a hectic few weeks of webcasts, heres whats coming, so that you can be prepared. Saturday 26 March - a wedding in Carterton. Not expected to cause any major traffic flows. But I'm sure they'll drink beer at the reception (just to keep this on topic). Theres lots of video of the past few events going up at the moment. We hope this will include footage of the 30minute "World of Bendon" dance routine from Girl's Day Out. (is that in our terms of reference ? do I get extra bonus points ?) rich

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Re: Re: [nznog] telecom planning to break VoIP over its network?
by Ian McDonald 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

> So why would Telecom behave any different in a LLU world? Because they would have to. > Sure, pick a > metric and we'll be a modest percentage better off, however people will still > be complaining, and we still won't have what we really want. > Depends what you mean by modest percentage. The whole point of LLU is that other companies can start using their own equipment - and they do. Witness the growth in Australia, USA and the UK where LLU along with a heavy regulation environment is seeing much higher speed delivered to users then here in NZ. > Spend the time, effort and money on building networks, not chasing, > implementing and then fighting to actually get something useful from LLU. > I'm an observer, not an ISP but understand what you are saying here. I agree we won't be the same as other countries due to our geography but at least we would achieve real results in Auckland.... (which is not where I live). > Cheers, > Jonny. > > I'll stop here now before it goes (any further) into a flame war. Ian

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Re: Re: [nznog] telecom planning to break VoIP over its network?
by Jonny Martin 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

> Of course Telecom will object against LLU as it DOES hurt their bottom > line and they are owned by shareholders. It really has to be a policy > decision by the government. So why would Telecom behave any different in a LLU world? Sure, pick a metric and we'll be a modest percentage better off, however people will still be complaining, and we still won't have what we really want. Spend the time, effort and money on building networks, not chasing, implementing and then fighting to actually get something useful from LLU. Cheers, Jonny.

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. The update causing these changes had the following mail headers: - From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)citylink.co.nz> - Cc: - Subject: [CityLink #2108] Routing updates for WIX Route Servers (fwd) - Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:22:12 +1300 (NZDT) - Msg-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0503181521560.19063(a)jennings.citylink.co.nz> NZRR Database Notification Department --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS17474 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by ConceptNET - AS17474 members: 202.150.96.0/20^20-29, 203.97.44.0/24^24-29, 202.49.250.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: craig(a)concept.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20040908 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS17474 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Craig Spiers - AS17474 members: 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 203.97.44.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: craig(a)concept.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050318 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. The update causing these changes had the following mail headers: - From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)citylink.co.nz> - Cc: - Subject: [CityLink #2107] Routing updates for APE Route Servers (fwd) - Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:21:36 +1300 (NZDT) - Msg-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0503181521180.19063(a)jennings.citylink.co.nz> NZRR Database Notification Department --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17474 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Craig Spiers - AS17474 members: 202.150.96.0/20^20-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 203.97.44.0/24^24-29, 202.50.176.0/24^24-29, 202.7.6.32/29, 202.7.5.32/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: craig(a)concept.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050314 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17474 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Craig Spiers - AS17474 members: 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 203.97.44.0/24^24-29, 202.7.5.32/29, 202.7.6.32/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: craig(a)concept.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050318 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. The update causing these changes had the following mail headers: - From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)citylink.co.nz> - Cc: - Subject: RE: [CityLink #2105] AutoReply: Routing updates for WIX Route Servers (fwd) - Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:20:32 +1300 (NZDT) - Msg-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0503181520070.19063(a)jennings.citylink.co.nz> NZRR Database Notification Department --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9889 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by Maxnet - AS9889 members: 202.14.217.0/24^24-29, 202.27.204.0/24^24-29, 202.36.70.0/24^24-29, 202.37.72.0/24^24-29, 202.37.181.0/24^24-29, 202.50.167.0/24^24-29, 202.89.32.0/19^19-29, 210.55.29.0/24^24-29, 210.55.100.0/22^22-29, 210.55.104.0/22^22-29, 210.55.110.0/24^24-29, 210.55.155.0/24^24-29, 210.55.169.0/24^24-29, 210.55.214.0/24^24-29, 210.55.230.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: alastair.johnson(a)maxnet.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20041008 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9889 descr: advertised to AS9439 by Maxnet - AS9889 members: 210.55.230.0/24^24-29, 210.55.214.0/24^24-29, 210.55.169.0/24^24-29, 210.55.155.0/24^24-29, 210.55.104.0/22^22-29, 210.55.100.0/22^22-29, 202.37.181.0/24^24-29, 202.37.72.0/24^24-29, 202.36.70.0/24^24-29, 202.27.204.0/24^24-29, 202.89.32.0/19^19-29, 202.6.5.0/24^24-29, 202.49.141.0/24^24-29, 203.89.160.0/19^19-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: david.fox(a)maxnet.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050318 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. The update causing these changes had the following mail headers: - From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)citylink.co.nz> - Cc: - Subject: [CityLink #2103] Routing updates for WIX Route Servers (fwd) - Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:18:45 +1300 (NZDT) - Msg-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0503181518250.19063(a)jennings.citylink.co.nz> NZRR Database Notification Department --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 138.235.0.0/16^16-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.157.0/24^24-29, 202.36.32.0/24^24-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.36.44.0/24^24-29, 202.36.45.0/24^24-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/23^23-29, 202.182.192.0/19^19-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 210.55.253.0/24^24-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: john(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050304 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9439 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 138.235.0.0/16^16-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.157.0/24^24-29, 202.36.32.0/24^24-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.36.44.0/24^24-29, 202.36.45.0/24^24-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.182.192.0/19^19-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: john(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050318 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. The update causing these changes had the following mail headers: - From: Andy Linton <asjl(a)citylink.co.nz> - Cc: - Subject: [CityLink #2102] Routing updates for APE Route Servers (fwd) - Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:18:10 +1300 (NZDT) - Msg-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0503181517410.19063(a)jennings.citylink.co.nz> NZRR Database Notification Department --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9560 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 138.235.0.0/16^16-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.157.0/24^24-29, 202.36.32.0/24^24-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.36.44.0/24^24-29, 202.36.45.0/24^24-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/23^23-29, 202.182.192.0/19^19-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 210.55.253.0/24^24-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: john(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050304 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS4770 descr: advertised to AS9560 by ICONZ - AS4770 members: 138.235.0.0/16^16-29, 192.107.113.0/24^24-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 198.32.66.0/24^24-29, 199.212.93.0/24^24-29, 202.6.84.0/24^24-29, 202.12.70.0/24^24-29, 202.12.248.0/21^21-29, 202.14.100.0/24^24-29, 202.20.6.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.21.136.0/23^23-29, 202.36.155.0/24^24-29, 202.36.157.0/24^24-29, 202.36.32.0/24^24-29, 202.36.36.0/22^22-29, 202.36.44.0/24^24-29, 202.36.45.0/24^24-29, 202.36.76.0/23^23-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.37.136.0/24^24-29, 202.37.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.144.0/21^21-29, 202.37.163.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.37.200.0/22^22-29, 202.37.224.0/21^21-29, 202.37.232.0/24^24-29, 202.37.240.0/23^23-29, 202.37.252.0/23^23-29, 202.37.76.0/24^24-29, 202.37.85.0/24^24-29, 202.41.136.0/22^22-29, 202.41.140.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.62.0/24^24-29, 202.49.89.0/24^24-29, 202.49.249.0/24^24-29, 202.49.159.0/24^24-29, 202.50.87.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.55.96.0/20^20-29, 202.74.224.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.182.192.0/19^19-29, 205.233.128.0/21^21-29, 205.233.136.0/23^23-29, 205.233.243.0/24^24-29, 210.185.0.0/18^18-29, 210.48.0.0/17^17-29, 210.54.136.0/22^22-29, 210.54.140.0/24^24-29, 210.54.160.0/19^19-29, 210.55.182.0/23^23-29, 210.55.24.0/22^22-29, 210.56.32.0/20^20-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: john(a)iconz.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050318 source: NZRR

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Re: RE: [nznog] telecom planning to break VoIP over its network?
by Jonny Martin 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

> NZ needs some competition in the Telco market. I have to disagree with that. There is only one steady state equilibrium in a traditional telco market. We have that already. What we need are more _alternatives_ to telcos. Get out there and build some network. It's not that hard :) Cheers, Jonny.

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Updating the APE and WIX route servers
by Andy Linton 17 Mar '05

17 Mar '05

Can I remind you that when you want us to make changes to the filters which control what you can announce on the exchanges you need to complete the forms at: APE http://ape.nzix.net/cgi-bin/ChangeRoutes.cgi WIX http://wix.nzix.net/cgi-bin/ChangeRoutes.cgi Please note that if you want changes at both exchanges you need to ask explicitly by completing *both* forms. We won't attempt to use telepathy as part of this process.

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