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Re: Dean's Wireless Walkabout
by Dean Pemberton 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

HAHAHAHA ROFLMAO Choccie Fish for Joe here. Yes of course I mean 802.11 hahaha - I'm still laughing at that cock up. So how many people were worried that I could see their Vlans from the street? Dean On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:48:38PM +1200, Joe Lewis wrote: > > Hi, umm feel free to shoot me down but don't you mean 802.11(b)? > > --- > Joe Lewis > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Dean Pemberton wrote: > > > > > Hi all; > > > > Yes this might be a first, I'm going to drag the topic BACK to something network related. > > > > I happen to be in Auckland today. Flew in for customer chit chat which will happen tommorow. > > Had a spare afternoon and no one to see so I thought I might do the geek thing and see how little old Auckland was getting along with it's wireless networking. > > > > SO, I slapped the 802.1Q card into the laptop and strapped the GPS onto the outside of my backpack and went for a walk. > > > > I walked down Queen Street from the top to the water, and then back up to Albert St to Wellesley then back up Symonds to my hotel. > > > > Well. Auckland sure is brimming with wireless. But the concern (and I spose the reason that I posted this at all) was that most of it is insecure. > > > > Now I'm a good guy. I don't want to get access to anything, god knows I see enough internet as it is. I just wanted to see how many places had embraced the 802.1Q fad. > > > > So all in all 29 networks jumped out and grabbed me as I was walking past. only 4 of them were using WEP. > > Now because I didn't actually try to gain access to any of them, I have no idea what the internal security of them is like. But I'm not expecting much. > > > > I don't think I sniffed anything off the sky tower, I was only using the small antenna on the card. > > > > So if you run a wireless network in the center of Auckland and you were using the strategy of "Oh it will never make it down to the street" Then you are wrong and you might like to put some more security on. > > > > I thought about mailing my networklist out as well. But I decided against it. Mainly because it has exact GPS locations and network names. It would make easy pickings for anyone who wanted to gain access. > > If you want to mail me privatly with your network name and/or card MAC address then I will give you a yes or no answer. > > > > Dont feel alone though. I've done the same in North Sydney and come up with similar numbers. > > > > Next week wellington. > > > > Have fun > > > > Dean > > --------- > > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > where the body of your message reads: > > unsubscribe nznog > > > --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Proposed Change to Acceptable Use Policy
by Donald Neal 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

NZNOG People, It is not always obvious, but this list does have an acceptable use policy. Here it is: ---------- NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. ---------- This has served us well enough for a number of years. I now propose the following addition: 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Votes on this change to me (not the list!) by midday, Friday 10 August, please. In the interim, I intend to proceed as I outlined previously. I shall issue formal warnings for irrelevant or abusive postings, and shall act to block postings as soon as a third warning within thirty days is issued to any individual. To avoid any appearance of retrospective action, I shall start counting warnings only from the appearance of this posting to the list. NB: This wiping of the slate excludes persons who have during the last week threatened me with legal action or have threatened to approach my employers to get them to influence my issuing of warnings for inappropriate posting. I consider that those involved have received far more warning than most people already. If a majority of votes cast support the change, this will become permanent practice, and the list will switch in the near future to accepting postings only from addresses supplied in advance. If the majority oppose it, we shall return to relying on people's goodwill. Unless someone else has a better idea? Donald --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: IP Address Management software.
by Steve Lang 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

Hiya. > Solarwinds (solarwinds.net) have a pretty cool suite of tools > that include > among others, IP management tools. They cost, but if you have > real buisiness > needs they are more cost effective than other commercial > solutions (Ci$co > included), and will quickly justify the cost. I had found them as well. Useful, and not that expensive when compared with others. > Network Address Recovery (This pings all IP address ranges > that you tell it > on a predetermined regular period (default 4 Hours), and > reports on the last > time an IP address was seen on the network) > There is a sample screen shot @ > http://solarwinds.net/Tools/Network_Discovery/Network_Address_ > Recovery/NetAd > Rec-1.gif I tested this, it looked quite good, but it's insistence at pinging things was annoying. > DHCP Scope Monitor (Requires Micro$soft DHCP and SNMP with > obviously NOT > public as the community string) Eeek. That would be interesting. Cheers and thanx. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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IP Address Management software.
by Steve Lang 02 Aug '01

02 Aug '01

Hiya all. 'Been lurking here for a while now, and actually have something worth saying now! I'm looking into IP Address Management packages. I've grazed through google, and a few others, and found pointers to many. It seems that there are a few packages that purport to allow people to manage IP Address space, but many of them focus on the integration of DHCP/DNS. Now, for what I'm after at the moment, this isn't an issue, and all I really want is something that can document allocations and what they're used for. There are some packages that don't exist now, and a couple that have changed hands within the last few years. An understanding of VLSM/CIDR etc. is required, although maybe not an understanding, but an allowance to docuement super/subnets. What do you, the contributors to this list use? And yes, I've done the spreadsheet thing to death... Cheers - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Lang Telephone: +64-9-309-7918 Consultant DDI: +64-9-307-5584 Optimation New Zealand Limited. Mobile: +64-25-864-653 P.O.Box 106104 Fax: +64-9-309-7919 Auckland E-mail: steve.lang(a)optimation.co.nz New Zealand Web: www.optimation.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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M1122 --- spontaneously corrupting flash
by Chris Wedgwood 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

Anyone out there inflicted with an M1122? I am, and for the second time to me, and third time in total (once at my old work) have had these modem die completely... Investigation (via console) has shown, in every single case, the flash has gotten corrupted or something, as image.exe (the firmware that is booted from ROM) is either corrupt or deleted. The worst thing is, the console refused to respond, which really sucks, as it means I can't revert to the previous image or put a new one on it. To make life even more interesting, the phone lines here are pretty spectacular, modems barely work and when they do, they drop about every 10 minutes or so even when you lock the modulation to v34 in an attempt to make things more reliable. --cw --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Crap
by Donald Neal 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

>>> "Matt Camp" <gargoyle(a)noise.net.nz> 08/01/01 08:55 >>> >I'd like to ask that this list is immediatly changed to drop non-member >submissions, and that Joe and Jeff are removed. >There is off topic conversation, and then there is pointless, induced, >drivel. NZNOG People, I'm not willing to get involved in a process of deciding for myself that one poster's five postings are cause for blocking, and someone else's are not. And the balance of the (admittedly small) number of emails I got on the subject last month was against restricting postings. On the other hand, I'm not at all happy with this list's s/n ratio. I have this morning sent to a number of posters requests not to send further inappropriate postings to this list. If these result in much improved behaviour, well and good. If not, I plan to move to a practice familiar to followers of cricket. Friendly warnings for misbehaviour may be given. Formal warnings follow. Too many formal warnings and you are asked to retire from the match. And yes, that would mean a move to restricting postings to addresses previously supplied, if not necessarily subscribed. Comments on that plan to the list, please. If it seems to me necessary to implement it I plan to put it to a vote as a set of additions to the AUP. When that might happen depends on postings. - Donald Neal List Administrator -- Donald Neal Mobility & Calling Platforms Network Delivery Telecom New Zealand Ltd --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Code Red Early warning for SANS
by Jeff Williams 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

All, For your interest on Code Red Worm... See: http://www.digitalisland.net/codered/ for hour to hour reports... I also have an Eradicator if anyone is interested... Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 118k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com Contact Number: 972-447-1800 x1894 or 214-244-4827 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Dean's Wireless Walkabout
by Dean Pemberton 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

Hi all; Yes this might be a first, I'm going to drag the topic BACK to something network related. I happen to be in Auckland today. Flew in for customer chit chat which will happen tommorow. Had a spare afternoon and no one to see so I thought I might do the geek thing and see how little old Auckland was getting along with it's wireless networking. SO, I slapped the 802.1Q card into the laptop and strapped the GPS onto the outside of my backpack and went for a walk. I walked down Queen Street from the top to the water, and then back up to Albert St to Wellesley then back up Symonds to my hotel. Well. Auckland sure is brimming with wireless. But the concern (and I spose the reason that I posted this at all) was that most of it is insecure. Now I'm a good guy. I don't want to get access to anything, god knows I see enough internet as it is. I just wanted to see how many places had embraced the 802.1Q fad. So all in all 29 networks jumped out and grabbed me as I was walking past. only 4 of them were using WEP. Now because I didn't actually try to gain access to any of them, I have no idea what the internal security of them is like. But I'm not expecting much. I don't think I sniffed anything off the sky tower, I was only using the small antenna on the card. So if you run a wireless network in the center of Auckland and you were using the strategy of "Oh it will never make it down to the street" Then you are wrong and you might like to put some more security on. I thought about mailing my networklist out as well. But I decided against it. Mainly because it has exact GPS locations and network names. It would make easy pickings for anyone who wanted to gain access. If you want to mail me privatly with your network name and/or card MAC address then I will give you a yes or no answer. Dont feel alone though. I've done the same in North Sydney and come up with similar numbers. Next week wellington. Have fun Dean --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Code Red (Take Two)
by Thomas Salmen 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

A little less of an impact this time then, huh? We've had two customers infected, both installs of which were less than a few days old. Seems that most admins (in NZ at least) have been rather better prepared this time round. Don't know if I can say the same for our friends overseas - many of the IPs that I have logged originate in Asia. Some in the States and Europe, but not as many. A few illegal, unpatched IIS installs, maybe... Must say, though, it was rather funny reading about the 'Code Red no-show' in the news this morning... Regards, Thomas Salmen System Administrator Radionet Ltd. 1/72 Paul Matthews Road Albany, Auckland, New Zealand Ph: +64 9 414 0300 ext 718 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Salmen [mailto:thomas(a)radionet.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2001 2:12 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Code Red (Take Two) Just curious... have many people been affected by the second round of Code Red infections? We have seen plenty of inbound traffic here (well, the odd bit, anyway) but very few of our customers web servers have been hit - not like last time... Regards, Thomas Salmen System Administrator Radionet Ltd. 1/72 Paul Matthews Road Albany, Auckland, New Zealand Ph: +64 9 414 0300 ext 718 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Code Red (Take Two)
by Thomas Salmen 01 Aug '01

01 Aug '01

Just curious... have many people been affected by the second round of Code Red infections? We have seen plenty of inbound traffic here (well, the odd bit, anyway) but very few of our customers web servers have been hit - not like last time... Regards, Thomas Salmen System Administrator Radionet Ltd. 1/72 Paul Matthews Road Albany, Auckland, New Zealand Ph: +64 9 414 0300 ext 718 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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