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Apologies
by Ray Taylor 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

I must apologise to the group. I have been a long time subscriber but don't post. Mailing list technology is a bit before my time so I was not exactly sure how I was to keep replies within the same thread / branch on the list archive. I was assuming if I forward to the list, it would place it in the correct thread much like a support ticketing system based on subject. Of course I was forwarding a few emails one after the other with responses and didn't see the particular email was sent to me off list. I shall go and find a how-to wiki on this mailing list stuff next time I need to post. With regards to my issue, I have our IP block / ASN advertised on our behalf by our upstream provider as we don't peer using BGP. The NOC at vocus replied to me and said somewhere along the chain there is an issue and they were most helpful in passing a message to whoever is responsible. As predicted by those who responded to my query, they were very fast in their response. Jonathan Brewer has quite rightly reminded me this is one of the woes of tier 7 bandwidth..something I should look at changing. Anyhow, thanks for the help Ray Taylor Taylor Communications ray(a)ruralkiwi.com Ph 021-483-280 Network status 06-929-9082 Description: header_logo

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Re: [nznog] Vocus Contact
by Ray Taylor 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

I think it was more a BGP issue with our upstream's upstream. So hoping it isn't a vocus issue and something closer to us. Ray Taylor Taylor Communications <mailto:ray(a)ruralkiwi.com> ray(a)ruralkiwi.com Ph 021-483-280 Network status 06-929-9082 Description: header_logo From: Liam Farr [mailto:liamfarr(a)me.com] Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2014 8:29 p.m. To: Ray Taylor Subject: Re: [nznog] Vocus Contact Craig Spiers is the most cluefull console wielding guy at Vocus, if there is a real problem with their BGP routing there's a good chance it will eventually make its way to him. He's also not a dick :) Craig Spiers <craig.spiers(a)vocus.co.nz> -- Kind Regards Liam Farr liamfarr(a)me.com +64-22-610-7884 On 18/02/2014, at 5:02 pm, Ray Taylor <ray(a)ruralkiwi.com> wrote: Have we someone here within Vocus? I have an issue with our ip range not being routed correctly through vocus' network. Thanks. Ray Taylor Taylor Communications <mailto:ray(a)ruralkiwi.com> ray(a)ruralkiwi.com Ph 021-483-280 Network status 06-929-9082 <image001.png> _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list <mailto:NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz <http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Vocus Contact
by Ray Taylor 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

Have we someone here within Vocus? I have an issue with our ip range not being routed correctly through vocus' network. Thanks. Ray Taylor Taylor Communications ray(a)ruralkiwi.com Ph 021-483-280 Network status 06-929-9082 Description: header_logo

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Change of Trustee and Thank you
by Jamie Baddeley 17 Feb '14

17 Feb '14

HI Folks, Little bit of housekeeping on behalf of the NZNOG Trustees for those of you who missed the conference in Nelson this year. Shame you missed it, it was a beauty. As mentioned at the end of the Conference, Richard Nelson from the WAND group at Waikato University is the latest victim/trustee to join the fray. Thanks to Richard for saying yes. Also, this means that a self described "grey-haired, cantankerous old bastard living in Canada" is now able to spend more time doing what ever it is that he does when he's not being grey and cantankerous. I am of course talking about Joe Abley. He's no longer a trustee. For those of us who've been around a bit, and believe me Joe has, you'll know that he's contributed a great deal to the NZ Internet (and more!) over the years, even if most of it was last century. Well maybe not that long ago. So, with that, thanks Joe, and thanks Richard. cheers jamie

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NTP reflection used for world's largest DDoS
by Juha Saarinen 16 Feb '14

16 Feb '14

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/372033,worlds-largest-ddos-strikes-us-europe.… Amplification factor: 58.5. -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen

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Cisco Memory Issues
by Alexander Neilson 14 Feb '14

14 Feb '14

I saw alerts about this on AUSNOG but hadn’t seen anything on NZNOG yet so I posting it to make sure people know. http://www.itnews.com.au/News/372345,cisco-stung-by-switch-memory-glitch.as… http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/memory.html Regards Alexander

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APRICOT 2014 - Remote Participation Registration
by Elly Tawhai 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Hi NZNOG Community, I hope you are all looking forward to APRICOT 2014 which will start next week. The Workshops are from Tuesday, 18 to Saturday, 22 February 2014 and the Conference is from Monday, 24 to Friday, 28 February 2014. If you are unable to attend in person, you can still join the conference remotely. Some of the conference sessions will be broadcasted live. Please refer to the program for more information. http://2014.apricot.net/program Please note: Registration is now *mandatory* to watch the live webcast and participate remotely. Registration is free and you can register now to receive your login details https://apnic.ungerboeck.com/prod/emc00/register.aspx?OrgCode=10&EvtID=5824… I hope to see you all in person or online at APRICOT 2014. Regards APNIC Secretariat

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Re: [nznog] Validating resolvers for DNS and DNSSEC
by Pete Mundy 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Straight after the conference, I enabled validation on a resolver that handles in excess of 2 million queries/day. So far I have no negative impact to report either :) I support Andy & Dean's comments. Just turn it on already! Pete Mundy Wearer of Many Hats On 11/02/2014, at 12:20 PM, Dean Pemberton <nznog(a)deanpemberton.com> wrote: > Dave Mill (Inspire) stood up at NZNOG and clearly said that for them > that never happened. > > Just turn it on. > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Nathan Ward <nznog(a)daork.net> wrote: >> [SNIP] >> I've been talking about this with one of my customers recently, and there's >> a concern by some that turning on validation will trip false positives - >> which for an ISP is a bad thing to do - all the customer sees is that you >> 'don't work' while the other ISP does. >> >> Is there public data available re. this? Does it likely vary much for NZ? >> [SNIP] >> Nathan Ward

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Technical Advisor, Harmful Digital Communications Bill
by Susan Chalmers 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Hello NZNOG, I am developing InternetNZ's submission to the Justice and Electoral Committee on the Harmful Digital Communications Bill. I'd like to ask this list for some feedback on one issue in the Bill, in particular. Clause 15 of the Bill reads: Technical advisers - (1)A District Court or the High Court, as the case may be, may appoint a technical adviser to assist it in considering and determining an application for an order under section 17 or any appeal under section 72 of the District Courts Act 1947. (2)The duties of a technical adviser are-- - (a)to sit with the court; and - (b)subject to subsection (3), to act in all respects as an extra member of the court. (3)The court must appoint a technical adviser if the court is considering an application for an order under section 17(2)(a) or (b) or (3)(a). (4)The Judge may give any weight to the technical adviser's advice that the Judge thinks fit, and the Judge alone must determine the application or appeal. (5)The Minister must maintain a panel of persons who may be appointed under this section as technical advisers, and only persons named on the panel may be appointed under this section as technical advisers. (6)The chief executive must pay technical advisers the remuneration and allowances determined from time to time by the Minister. - For reference, the remedies referred to in cl 15(3) are: takedown of content/disabling access thereto; identification of an anonymous author; and, somewhat strangely, making an order against parties not before the court. *What I am after in the first instance relates to the advice of the technical advisor. * *If the advisor were to issue a report of some sort to the judge, explaining the impact - economic, administrative, technical - of a takedown order on the intermediary, what do you think that advice should cover? * How can this advice, if it were published, serve as evidence for policymakers in the future, helping them avoid making remedies (takedown orders, etc) that are a burden to intermediaries or have a negative technical impact? FWIW, I think that 17(2)(c) and (d) orders - publishing corrections and providing rights of reply - should also be considered in technical advice. There are of course, many different flavours of intermediaries. The OECD has categorised intermediaries in the following way: 1. ISPs (carriers) 2. hosting providers 3. search engines 4. e-commerce intermediaries 5. Internet payment systems, and 6. participative web platforms http://www.keepeek.com/Digital-Asset-Management/oecd/science-and-technology… For the purposes of the Bill, we can consider intermediaries in two broad categories - content hosts and IPAPs (functionally - the IPAP language is not in the Bill, but I believe that IPAPs (meaning carriers in their IP-matching function) could be read into the current definition of "online content host" in the interpretation section). Thanks to those interested for your time and consideration, and please pose questions if you have them. I'd be grateful for your feedback by COB Friday. Sincerely, Susan -- --- Susan Chalmers Senior Policy Advisor susan(a)internetnz.net.nz

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References/Recommendations for IP & VoIP in USA
by Christoph Berthoud 12 Feb '14

12 Feb '14

Morning all, We have an office in the US (Los Angeles) and I'm having issues with our current internet provider and are looking to change. Does anyone from NZNOG have any references/recommendations they could give me for a supplier in LA that can provide decent IP & SIP trunk services? Replies off-list much appreciated :) -- Thanks Christoph

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