Remember the reason that Telecom and Telstra are doing this is that they believe that they will make more money in the long-term. They believe that one way to do this is to increase their revenue on National traffic. It would seem to me that the best way to convince T&T otherwise is to reduce their revenue by making them less attractive as wholesale providers. I've compiled a short list below of larger NZ companies and organizations that (IMHO) should be able to afford to peer at the main peering points (and would probably save money doing so) but don't appear to be doing so right now. Under interconnect pricing not only will they be paying to send traffic to other NZ companies but by picking a dodgy National provider (ie one that doesn't peer) they will be costing other NZ Internet users money. I would suggest that people strongly review sending traffic ( or advertising network ) from/to the following companies across paid links. They might especially want to review their access to free (especially high bandwidth) resources such as FTP mirrors. I would hope that at least a few of the below companies will look at peering within NZ and bypassing Telecom & Telstra's charging. If you are working for one of the companies then I'm sure there are plenty of people around to advise you on making the step and how you'll almost certainly save some money. NOTE: There may be some errors in the list (some people on WIX are probably missed) , but it's probably a good starting point. I suspect the loss of a few of these accounts will cancel out the income that Telstra and Telecom hope to make from charging extra for National. 129.222.0.0/15 UNISYS 129.222.0.0/14 UNISYS 130.195.0.0/16 Victoria University of Wellington 151.135.0.0/16 Opus International Consultants 153.111.0.0/16 Christchurch City Council 165.84.0.0/16 Christchurch Polytechnic Institute of Technology 166.65.0.0/16 transpower 170.9.56.0/21 Keystone International 192.54.130.0/24 Wellinton City Council 192.88.190.0/24 Wellington Regional Council 192.94.169.0/24 GP Print Limited 192.105.10.0/24 Ministry of Education 192.148.221.0/24 Canterbury Regional Council 192.207.143.0/24 Far North District Council 202.14.20.0/22 Fletcher Challenge and everything else announced by Datacomm AS10022 130.217.0.0/16 Waikato University 130.216.0.0/16 Auckland University 130.123.0.0/16 Massey University 202.27.252.0/24 Lion Nathan Limited 202.37.64.0/23 Auckland City Council 139.80.0.0/16 University of Otago 156.62.0.0/16 Auckland University of Technology 203.99.64.0/20 Wilson & Horton Ltd 203.98.58.0/24 TVNZ 202.36.33.0/24 TVNZ 210.54.224.0/24 NZ Stock Exchange 162.112.0.0/16 AIR New Zealand 202.27.76.0/23 NZ Government 203.98.9.0/24 Auckland regional Council (and others) 210.55.180.0/24 ASB Bank 202.7.34.0/24 Westpac 203.57.240.0/23 BNZ 202.73.192.0/20 Vodafone 203.9.176.0/21 Carter Holt Harvey 202.12.105.0/24 F&P 210.55.51.0/24 foodtown and others 143.96.0.0/16 Unisys including Fonterra -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.