Does this include PIPE International?, which is a separate business to PIPE.. -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 7:49 p.m. To: nznog Subject: [nznog] FW: Soul/TPG buying Pipe ... FYI to NZNOGers ...Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? -----Original Message----- From: ausnog-bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 5:44 PM To: ausnog(a)ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Soul/TPG buying Pipe ... All, I'm quite disappointed in this move.... yes, it is just my little opinion, but it is mine to give. TPG's takeover of Soul, the way they run their network operations - from experience and the feedback of quite a few Soul staff, does not inspire me with any confidence with what will happen to Pipe. TPG basically gutted Soul in several areas and I can't see how, unless they've changed the way they do things, that this will be any good at all for Pipe. Pipe, driven by Bevan and Steve have been amazing for this industry, building it, supporting it and making what it is today... I have never ever experienced TPG caring at all for the industry as a whole... sponsoring anything industry related or supporting it in other ways... if they have, I would like to be corrected. Now Wholesale. I've been a big advocate of Pipe as a wholesale provider over anyone else - simply because of how much they've given the industry and my love for the guys.... but as a wholesale provider they never competed with ISP's in any real way. TPG is a retail based ISP primary.. Soul does other things, but again they shut down their wholesale business of DSL and other things very quickly after the takeover by TPG. What will happen to Pipe? Wholesale shutdown - prices up.. peering killed off? One question I would really like to ask is 'Why Bevan why?'... I realise you guys together only had 27% - but did you have no choice? I am sure I am not the only one asking 'How could you do this to us?' Is it just about the money? In the end.. whatever happens, we will adapt.... you never really do know how things will turn out. This might be a good thing... not that I can see how at the moment. If they leave Pipe alone and let it do what it does best... great... if they gut it and integrate... sad panda for all. I see things like Pipe drinks disappearing, AUSNOG sponsorship disappearing, and amazing industry innovation - like PPC1 - things like that not happening anymore. I remember Bevans' speech at the Pipe Xmas part in 2008... about being here for the small guy... What happened. ...Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there?
-----Original Message----- From: ausnog-bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog- bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 4:58 PM To: ausnog(a)ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] Soul/TPG buying Pipe ...
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=01009869
I'd cut and paste, but it's been disabled.
Have a read. How does the world change?
MMC -- Matthew Moyle-Croft Peering Manager and Team Lead - Commercial and DSLAMs Internode /Agile
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