On 12 Mar 2009, at 16:42, Gerard Creamer wrote:
I think Dean was swiping at Jon's comment, not the NZRR updates. The NZRR updates are useful and clearly operational, I don't think anyone would want them discontinued.
I have them procmailed to /dev/null (I don't have access to any routers in NZ these days), so I don't find them objectionable. Before I did that, though, I occasionally wished that there was some kind of reports(a)nznog.org list that things like the NZRR updates (and maybe the various BGP reports, etc) would go to, leaving the main list the exclusive domain of alleged humans (and giving those who are mainly interested in non-robot talk the option of not seeing it). While I'm posting about non-operational meta-nznog nonsense, I might also mention that having a separate list for non-operational meta- nanog nonsense worked quite well, from my perspective, at NANOG. It appeared by accident as fallout from the community uprising that spawned the new NANOG charter, but it turned out to be useful as a general target for non-op chatter about NANOG. All the messages in this thread which are mainly debating whether 143s9 is worth debating could easily happen on such a list, and the operational signal on the main list would increase. It's much easier to accept being told "talk about that thing on this other list" than "stop talking altogether" in my experience. Just thinking aloud. Joe