On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Joe Abley wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:53:06PM +1300, Juha Saarinen wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Andy Linton wrote:
where's the support for Internet2.
Who needs Internet2?
In case that one disappeared in the general Juha troll filter, I'd like to hear a good answer to that question, too. The basis of Internet2 seems to be that it is possible to build a higher- performing and generally more advanced infrastructure when there are no ROI or market considerations to worry about.
I wasn't thinking of the technical considerations so much as the commercial/political ones. The telcos in NZ seem unlikely to make high bandwidth available unless someone pays (if I'm wrong on this my apologies to those benevolent souls out there). The government's agreement to 9.6k guarantees in the Kiwi share with Telecom NZ seems to me very strong evidence that a number of people don't understand the problem. So for "Internet2" research institutions need some help from government in terms of either dollars or political leverage on the telcos to make bandwidth available so that researchers in NZ can start to use/develop the applications that will use the more advanced infastructure. I'd suggest it's pretty hard for those sort of research people at NZ universities etc to take part in discussions with their peers in other parts of the world when they can only do so on a theoretical basis. My impression is that there's less network based research going on in NZ universities than say their Australian counterparts because of lack of government support over a protracted period in the late 80s and 90s. The NZ Internet happened to be built in spite of government lack of interest at that time - that's not a reason to not support new developments now. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog