hear hear! Following Juha's example I threw Julian Angelo into Google - he's sure managed to land on some interesting mailing lists worldwide.. I quote: Vertuacom in no way supports the bad practise of spamming; we stand for responsible direct mail i.e. mails targeted towards a select group. Many businesses and corporations have been put off using e-mail as a marketing tool, as spammers have tarnished its image. Many irresponsible bulk mailers have sent out large amounts of mail to people whom they know nothing about. These companies have not tried to mail to those who would have any interest in their products or services, but have merely sent there mailings out blindly. Also hyped up bogus offers and pornography have given people a bad image of the direct mail industry. Every piece of mail we send out is given the option of being removed from our database, as we have done in this mailing to you, at the bottom of the page see removal instructions. This is called responsible Direct mail. *grins* If Julian has *stopped* abusing our networks, and realises that hes been a bad netizen, and makes his apologies.. then I think the general consensus so far appears to be that the archives are left as they are - archives are archives - and it is recorded in our archives that Julian has realised his wrongdoings. The question is - Has he? :) Mark. At 12:20 17/07/2001 +1200, Hamish MacEwan wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 11:55 +1200, Matthew Poole wrote:
Personally, I think that you should leave the archives alone unless he's prepared to actually offer a sincere apology in a major public forum.
Would it not suffice for Mr Angelo to publish an apology here on NZNOG, thus when prospective employers discover his chequered past, they will also discover his contrition.
Nothing need be removed, obscured, hidden, or denied.
In fact it may enhance his reputation in the nature of the prodigal.
Hamish.
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