Joe Wrote: [Oh, I think I still owe Dean Pemberton a beer for loaning us a power cable during that install that we never gave back.] Heh - yeah I remember that. I'll collect next month. Those stinky cisco boxes with their special power cables. From memory I might have stolen it from a jug or something we had lying around. More on topic though. I can remember a BOF session at Uniforum 1998 in which all the ISP's sat down and discussed peering. I seem to remember that it was some time after that that things started. That would put the timeframe for the idea at 21-23May 1998. The question of who was first is a hard one. WIX (the route servers) didn't start until later. But National Library peering with Clear would have been one of the first, and that was around July 1998 IIRC. The date on the AS number I applied for supports this kind of time changed: hostmaster(a)apnic.net 19980724 I think Actrix was doing something about that time too. And maybe one of the isp's starting with "I". Maybe it will become clearer over beer. See you all next month. Dean