On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:02:29PM +1300, Bart Kindt wrote: At the RJ11 connector, modems use the two inner pins (the middle ones). Most modern telephones do too; BUT I have seen phones which use the two outer pins (4 pin). In such a case the cable supplied with that phone will NOT work with a modem! Older TCNZ phones user the outer pins... I assume this was just to be a pain and be incompatabile and try to assert their stranglehold for as long as possible, but perhaps there really was a reason for being at odds with the rest of the world :) With regard to the passthrough on a modem: I am not sure what pins that would use, should be the inner ones on both connectors. Do make sure the modem is in fact passing the signal through! It should be offline, but it may be required to be under power?? Usually the pss-though is done with a relay; so without power they will pass the two middle pins though (and sometimes the outer pins also). --cw - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog