On 8/04/2010, at 9:42 PM, Regan Murphy wrote:
On 8/04/2010, at 4:30 PM, Gordon Paynter wrote: - After consultation with New Zealand telecom vendors we have decided to run the harvest from the United States using the Internet Archive's hardware and network infrastructure, as we did in 2008.
Can you elaborate on this?
I think you will find it elaborated on in the document at the URL linked in the original post: http://www.natlib.govt.nz/catalogues/library-documents/web-harvest-consultat...
"The next best option, hosting with a telecommunications provider in New Zealand, was not viable for the 2010 harvest on grounds of value-for-money and increased technical complexity and risk. Similar issues arise with the possibility of hosting at the Library itself, or routin from the USA via New Zealand."
Yeah someone linked me to that. So essentially the argument is, we don't want to pay a small amount for it, so we'll push that (larger) cost on to NZ businesses instead? Was there even any research done in to finding out what the cost would be to NZ businesses? Should a govt. thing like natlib care about that sort of thing? Last I looked at such things, public rate card for colo is 1000/mbit for international capacity. Let's assume most colo customers don't really know how to negotiate that down and are paying that. Most of my customers who's kit I look after are (or were before I came along :-). Domestic is what, 100/mbit? Plus I'm sure they'd just build in to APE to reduce their costs a bunch more. If they don't want to pay for hardware or have to administer it, why don't they do a deal with a certain provider that gives away outbound international transit (and also builds in to as many .nz exchanges as possible) and build a tunnel or HTTP proxy so they reach hosts in NZ over that? This stuff really isn't hard to make it cheaper for everyone. I haven't seen any appealing to the NZNOG list for ideas[1] on how to do this stuff better, and I'm *sure* we'd all have a load[2]. Sure, some might be rubbish but I'm sure you'd get at least a few clever ideas and likely even some people offering to donate things. -- Nathan Ward [1] Not that there hasn't been any, but I can't see any after a quick search of my local archive either. [2] Mail.app thinks I mis-spelled this word. Onya[2] Mail.app.