On Thu, Jun 04, 1998 at 05:57:58AM +0000, Andy Linton wrote:
Joe Abley wrote:
I'd have gone for 'half of the net community' if I were saying it. (:-)
Irk... I'm having a bad keyboard day.
I'm curious as to why the body that administers the 'nz' namespace should be perceived as a controversial choice.
[This is my pet subject at times, if you only want to flame, go right ahead, but to me, not the list. OTOH if I'm telling big lies, then its only reasonable for those replies to go to the list] DomaiNZ != ISOCNZ Domainz => A fairly good registry authority, although it seems (but isn't necessarily) a tad over run by marketroids, but they must make gobs of money so they need marketroids to spend it all. Contrast www.domainz.net.nz and Internic. Which one is best suited to marketroids, which on to techoids? ISOCNZ => A self appointed group of bureaucrats who so far haven't done anything remarkable in their two years (?) of existence, aside form domainz, which seems to more Waikato uni. anyhow. Of course, I could be wrong - I often am.
I'm not suggesting that they run anything, merely act as arbitrators in the event of dispute.
And have the powers to do what?
At least each of the members of this list and/or their employers have the option of joining ISOCNZ and voting in a council to formulate policy.
I'd throw down the gauntlet to the members of this list to join and change ISCONZ if they don't like how it's run.
I'm only in partial agreement. I'm not an ISOCNZ member, and I don't like how they are run. I didn't ask for ISOCNZ or agree to them in the first place. They just appeared and said we are here and this is what we will do. Noone else had a say. Anyhow, I'm not going to argue about that - its probably easier for me to join ISOCNZ and make trouble^W^Waddress issues that way....
If ISOCNZ isn't a suitable candidate then can we hear some other suggestions.
YANONZ. (Anyone for www.yanonz.org.nz). Seriously, this is a good point, if we aren't to form a new organisation, then perhaps choosing the lesser of many evils is a better way to approach things.
I'd say the University of Waikato aren't an impartial observer in this and the ISPs have no say in who would make up the members of an arbitration panel from that source.
Very true, but maybe its time that NZ ISP looked at actually trying to get along better with each other. I know its never worked before, but maybe it is worth trying again. Something a bit like ISPANZ was supposed to be, only not just fo ISPs, but for the industry as a whole.
Of course, we could form YANONZ (Yet Another Networking Organisation in NZ) and waste even more time trying to raise funds and have meetings.
Meetings... meetings are really hard because most ISPs are either in Auckland or Wellington, perhaps some other non-physical medium should be looked at at some point. (Oh, please, not IRC though). I don't see why a network organisation can't have meetings over the 'net. -Chris --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog