Re: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable

A lot of this comes down to the bigger issue - as Dean put it - do we want to be a "state of Australia" or a "suburb of LA" on the internet? These days you can pick up a surprisingly large amount of content / dump a fair amount of your international load into Sydney. Additionally, for those of you who haven't seen what Bevan Slattery has been up to, there hasn't been a lot of detail on this, but interesting to see how(if) it progresses; http://www.commsday.com/commsday-australasia/ted-pretty-bevan-slattery-plan-... http://www.commsday.com/commsday-australasia/slatterys-radical-funding-plan-... “[APX-East] will be an express cable from Australia to the US, with spurs into New Zealand and Hawaii, and branching units available at a number of locations in the Pacific Islands.” Cheers, Hoff On 20/02/2013, at 9:40 AM, Peter Lambrechtsen wrote:

So wouldn't a larger population buy more data due to size and thus get a better discount? Isn't that how typical economics works. Or am I missing something?

So wasn't that my main argument about population or lack thereof?

----- Reply message ----- From: "Jay Daley" To: "Peter Lambrechtsen" Cc: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable Date: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:31 am

On 20/02/2013, at 7:16 AM, Peter Lambrechtsen wrote:

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How are prices high when it costs the same to land data on SCCN NZ-US as it does AU-US and there is 3 cables going into AU?

List prices are the same but the unlisted discounts are significant and they favour the stronger buyers. AU buyers are generally much stronger because they buy more bandwidth and they can shop around between cables for prices.

Jay

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NZ is a small population with a low wage economy spread across a very mountainous geography that the vast majority of people only use less than 30gb of data....

Fix those issues and we will all have cheaper internet.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire S on Telecom's XT mobile network.

----- Reply message ----- From: "Chris Hodgetts" To: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable Date: Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:15 pm

Yes - more cables does equal good...

However, given the three Telco's involved... does it still mean high prices?

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:32:43 +0000, Christian Nielsen wrote:

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More Cables = Good.

This is a pretty good site. Still shows Tasman-2. http://submarinecablemap.com/

Christian

-----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Kris Price Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:29 PM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable

Oh, looky, a new cable:

http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3880&page=index

I'm curious about something though, maybe someone on the list can share a bit of history. Is Tasman-2 still active in some capacity?

I had always assumed it was shutdown after southern cross was built, but it's still shown often on cable maps such as the one in that press release:

http://twitpic.com/c4wu2k

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