On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 11:16:01AM +1200, Donald Neal wrote: Just over a year ago, there was discussion on this list of spamming by one Julian Angelo. He has now approached me, asking to have these references removed from the NZNOG archive. It seems that prospective employers who look up his name on the web find these archive entries, a fact which may not be helping his career any. If any network operator has an objection to these entries being removed from the archive, could they please contact me directly. One of the great (?) things about the 'net, is that things seem to go into it, and stay around potentially forever. You can delete this stuff from the archive if you wish, but other references (non nznog) will exist elsewhere (I checked). For a strange eerie example of 'net longevity, check out old Usenet postings that Google acquired from Deja', search for yourselves (or Patrick Dunford). Freaky stuff, I was such a git no so long ago (well, even more of a git than I am now). I don't think this will haunt him anyhow, anyone remember the name of the person who sent porn to the list a while back OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? Yes or no answers suffice. What about the name of the poor woman who's comments about oral sex sent to a lawyer somewhere in the UK were forwarded on to a few people? How about the name of the US business man who was busted for not having enough weed to share with customs during the America's Cup? Let face it, people have short memories, if they didn't, nobody would vote. As an interesting exercise, you can also try to 'change history' by silently change contents of web-sites and such for which there aren't millions of copies floating about, and if you website is the most linked to, things like google will but your content at the top of the list, with all the older-stuff at the bottom. The UK Labour government effectively did this when they got into power by reversing their stance of various issues all so quietly. Really, whether he apologizes or not, removing the content defeats the purpose of archives. If you must delete them, the please remove _ALL_ of the archives, I would rather have no archives than acrhives distort reality. --cw (who has his own archives anyhow...) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog