If Donald would like some help with list maintenance then I'm sure there are several people here that would be happy to help.
Good idea.... clamping down on people blatently abusing the list (as opposed to those that just wander a bit off topic from ocassionally) harder and faster is the answer, not trying to make it difficult for people to join. An extra person or two to help out with list maintainance may do that....
I agree with the above; I'm helping administer the NZLUG List for this very reason; the list admin was too busy right when we needed some fairly prompt attention to the list, so I offered to assist... The offer would stand for NZNOG too but I dare say there are people who are possibly 'better regarded' on here who should be filling that role. 2 or 3 admins in total - people who look at their email a lot, probably - would be good nominees here. Its only fair not to expect Donald to have to run the entire thing himself. :) I also disagree with the concept of a 'moderated' list. I did toy with suggesting moderated-subscription but I agree this would cause a lot more problems than it would solve .... a team of list admins who between them can monitor for 'idiot behavior' would be my best reccomendation. I was one of those 'young people' who needed to be under someones wing a few years ago and didn't really have the option - a few of you will probably remember that with a cringe - but it really is a steep learning curve for you guys and friendly guidance from NZNOG types really does go a long way. Cheers, Mark.